JesssFam: All Addie, All the Time (Part 83)

[babyfox]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a second. What if Chris does the majority of the cooking because HE enjoys it? Or is it only okay when a woman wants to take care of her man? (Before anyone says "Jess doesn't do anything", YouTube technically is work despite how much we all dislike it, myself included. She does earn money for the family.)

[smom12]

Personally, I think a relationship is 50/50 in all aspects. You want to exhaust yourself by "serving" your man, that's on you. My mom and grandmother did that because it was expected of them. You know where It got my grandparents? When my grandma died my grandfather knew how to do NOTHING. Couldn't wash a dish, do laundry, write a check, clean house... NOTHING. It was heartbreaking to see.

No me, no thanks. I want my other half to function in life after I pass, thank you very much.

But please, don't use the word "serve".


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[Yue195]

I imagine I would ask you why you feel the need to uphold a repressive system which women quite literally died fighting against. Interestingly it does matter, it matters to all women of all ages. There are more men named John in leading roles in FTSE firms than there are women. I am studying to become a lecturer, full time male lecturers at my University get £77000 salary, women get £72000. 1 in 5 women will experience rape or attempted rape in their lifetimes. By the age of 8 girls are reported to associate words such as 'clever' and 'professional' with boys rather than girls. And that's just off the top of my head. If girls grow up hearing/seeing their mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, neighbours etc. saying they 'serve' the men in their life then the cycle continues. This is equally damaging for boys to hear, it establishes the patriarchy which is the cause of all these problems. In my life and my relationships if you make the mess, you help clean it. If you eat the food, you should help cook it. But as you said, has nothing to do with me, just the world I will be repressed in and that my children will be repressed in.

Well that escalated quickly....

No one said " Jess is the wife and should do all the cooking, cleaning and rub Chris's feet and draw him a bath when he gets home because he's the man of the house and it's her duty to serve and Chris doesn't have to do anything"

They said " would it kill Jess to actually contribute to her household for once instead of sitting on her ass all day, watching it get slowly destroyed and wait for Chris to get home so he can make food and clean while she still sits on her ass and does not help him one bit"

She's home, he's not. She's lazy as hell (shown in her Drake era) and he's putting in 10 times more effort. If it was the other way around I would expect the same from him. If he really likes to cook that's awesome, if he has a certain way of cleaning, that's cool. But she's obviously taking advantage of it.

[Happinessnstuff]

And? Live and let live. If women enjoy that lifestyle so be it. You do you.


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So what? What does my lifestyle have anything to do with you? I am proud to serve my boyfriend. Yes- it is very traditional, and does stem from the lifestyle most women lived in the 50's. If it doesn't work for you, that's fine. It works for me, and I'm proud to do it. How would you feel if I said, "sigh, women who make their husbands help with the housework. That's so 2016, smh."


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I imagine I would ask you why you feel the need to uphold a repressive system which women quite literally died fighting against. Interestingly it does matter, it matters to all women of all ages. There are more men named John in leading roles in FTSE firms than there are women. I am studying to become a lecturer, full time male lecturers at my University get £77000 salary, women get £72000. 1 in 5 women will experience rape or attempted rape in their lifetimes. By the age of 8 girls are reported to associate words such as 'clever' and 'professional' with boys rather than girls. And that's just off the top of my head. If girls grow up hearing/seeing their mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, neighbours etc. saying they 'serve' the men in their life then the cycle continues. This is equally damaging for boys to hear, it establishes the patriarchy which is the cause of all these problems. In my life and my relationships if you make the mess, you help clean it. If you eat the food, you should help cook it. But as you said, has nothing to do with me, just the world I will be repressed in and that my children will be repressed in.

Why does everything need to be taken out of proportion? Just because she mentioned that she likes to pamper her boyfriend and take care of him doesn't mean you have to bring in the topic of rape. Cooking food for a loved one and helping with his laundry while he comes home exhausted from work to me is a sign of care and that you love him. That doesn't mean you have to make it seem like she's talking about being his slave. We're all different and choose to live differently. This generation is full of sensitivity.


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[Yogabbagabbat]

I imagine I would ask you why you feel the need to uphold a repressive system which women quite literally died fighting against. Interestingly it does matter, it matters to all women of all ages. There are more men named John in leading roles in FTSE firms than there are women. I am studying to become a lecturer, full time male lecturers at my University get £77000 salary, women get £72000. 1 in 5 women will experience rape or attempted rape in their lifetimes. By the age of 8 girls are reported to associate words such as 'clever' and 'professional' with boys rather than girls. And that's just off the top of my head. If girls grow up hearing/seeing their mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, neighbours etc. saying they 'serve' the men in their life then the cycle continues. This is equally damaging for boys to hear, it establishes the patriarchy which is the cause of all these problems. In my life and my relationships if you make the mess, you help clean it. If you eat the food, you should help cook it. But as you said, has nothing to do with me, just the world I will be repressed in and that my children will be repressed in.

Oh stop. Women fought for our right to chose to do whatever we want. These women obviously aren't unhappy with their lives so you probably shouldn't be so dramatic.

Why are you bringing up rape when people are just saying they like to cook for their husbands? Fucking over the top.

Disclaimer: I am by no means suggesting that if you cook for your husbands you are being/are going to be/more susceptible/enabling anyone to being a victim of sexual assault. I am also not under the impression that all victims are women or that all perpetrators are men. But, that statistic is harrowing, and it is the result of a power imbalanced, male-centric society. The promotion of the concept of servitude and being indebted to one sex is a contributor to this. Power and gender should not be interlinked, yet sadly they are.

I agree that it's definitely a tougher life for women out there, but these women WANT to do these things for their husbands. if that's what they choose, then I don't think it's fair of you to be shaming them for it.

[Happinessnstuff]

As an assault survivor, I respectfully disagree with you.
This is how I choose to live my life, you live yours. I was raised by a single mother, who never did anything for the man in her life, never kept a clean house, and it wasn't the best way to grow up. I promised myself when I got older I would always keep my house immaculate, and always "take care of my man"
I give major props to all feminists, and I'm thankful for the women that fought for me to have rights. Like the right to choose how I live my life. This is what I choose. Take it or leave it. I'm happy, my boyfriend is happy.


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Perfectly, politely said. I get so pissed off when people look down on others for their own decisions. I wish I would be more calm like you about it haha but it just irks me


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[blackroses]

I personally think it should be 50/50. I hate washing dishes and cleaning the house but I'll gladly do the laundry and cook And my boyfriend doesn't seem to mind it at all. We won't be moving in together for a looong time but I know for sure that's how things are gonna turn out and it's great because we all contribute something. but if you "serve" your significant other while they don't do much besides sit on their ass then I suggest rethinking your relationship

[Yue195]

Breaking up the debate- we're at 41 pages, time to vote for a new thread title!

[amberamber]

Janellandjesss, maybe Jessica is tired of baby daddies and plans on having a baby momma and letting her be a surrogate. I'm sure that would get her a bunch of views. Janell is probably the only person she hangs out with that she doesn't have a kid with yet.


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[smom12]

Jesssfam: Tinder Swipes and Ted Cruz nights
Jesssfam: Pays with Visa, MasterCard and Sex
Jesssfam: Why be a Grouch with an Amniotic Couch?



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[Random19]

Where is the tinder stuff coming from?

[smom12]

Just an assumption lol since she is home all day, not cleaning, not cooking, and obviously just tolerating Chris.


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[missy-1010]

Does Jess dye Adblocks hair like Lilias?


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[charmed596]

yeah jess snap about being sick and then snuggle your infant. blue eyes do not save her.

[gemmie]

Call me sensitive, but I'm getting sick of posts about Janelle's appearance. It's not really fair to her to be blasted in this site just because she's jess' friend. And whoever's calling her daughter, Alyna, ugly. C'mon, guys...


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[gemmie]

Also, my mom was born in the mid 50s and had 5 siblings and that was a very normal thing back then. I wish people vlogged back then lol, I would love to see how those mothers kept their shit and household together.


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[Yue195]

Call me sensitive, but I'm getting sick of posts about Janelle's appearance. It's not really fair to her to be blasted in this site just because she's jess' friend. And whoever's calling her daughter, Alyna, ugly. C'mon, guys...


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I would tend to agree except she has tried to piggyback of Jess's YT success with her own (failed) channel and opens herself to the public.

I only agree that Alyna should be left out.

[mydietsucks_1]

I personally think it should be 50/50. I hate washing dishes and cleaning the house but I'll gladly do the laundry and cook And my boyfriend doesn't seem to mind it at all. We won't be moving in together for a looong time but I know for sure that's how things are gonna turn out and it's great because we all contribute something. but if you "serve" your significant other while they don't do much besides sit on their ass then I suggest rethinking your relationship

I know people are sick of this debate but just have to put my two cents in. I am a woman who enjoys cooking and cleaning and generally running my household. There is the aspect of liking that my husband doesnt need to come home from work and worry about anything and that I have it handled. But it also makes me feel productive and gives me a sense of accomplishment and pride. I think whatever works for a person individually and within their relationship is perfectly okay, and saying a blanket statement like we need to rethink our relationships is judgmental and frankly, offensive. One person doing all of the housework becomes an issue when the two people in that relationship are unhappy with it, and something that works for one relationship wont work for another. If I asked my husband to put on a load of towels and he bitched and moaned about it, there would be a problem. But I currently do 95% of household duties, and when I ask him for a hand he gladly steps in and helps. It works in my relationship and its an arrangement that I enjoy, just like others enjoy 50/50 and it works perfectly.

As for the feminism debate, women are fighting for women to have the right to choose their lifestyles (whether that be a professional women who doesnt want children or a women who wants to do 95% of the housework), and when women start judging other women for their lifestyle choice of taking care of their home and husband, its taking a big step back.

p.s blackroses, that wasnt 100% aimed at you but i didnt want to make two posts.

[MamaJoAnna]

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[JennaLuvBug]

I believe in serving my husband. But a boyfriend hell to the nope. Not until we are man and wife will i bend over backwards and make sure you have a cushy just go to work and come home and sleep life.
I'm married though, and we both pull 50/50. I work out of the house and so does he though.


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