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DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby OhHiImSam » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:53 pm

Romeoxsavexme wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:Sorry, but I have no sympathy for poor Missy if she feels trapped in her marriage. In that case she's an adult and can make adult decisions.... be with Bryan or become independent. She doesn't get to ride his coat tails (because how much work is she putting into YT) and pout because he isn't more like her dad. She's raising her children to be more like Bryan than her dad, so I honestly think that theory is full of holes anyway.

Plus it's not like he was butch and handy when she met him. He literally was an emo poser (trendy at the time) with a camera in hand and the first words he said to her were bitchy af....

Sounds like Bryan to me!


Unfortunately, it's not that easy when you're in an abusive relationship to just leave.


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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby 907ninja » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:56 pm

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longtimelurker24 wrote:Just watched the vlog.
Missy is much more relaxed when she's with just her dad or mum or brother and sister she seems so different. I think she really looks up to her dad as the "model of a man and father" and probably wishes Brian was more like him. Maybe thats why she got the tools for him for Christmas. But Brian is nothing like her dad, complete opposites. I think she may have a lot of regrets in her life choices and probably wishes she did things differently. I enjoy the clips of when it's with her and her dad I find it sweet how much she wants to please him. What went so wrong with her Brian ? You can tell she would love him to be more like her dad. Brian is immature he says stupid things and does stupid things and you can see she's getting tired of it, i would find it embarrassing having to ask my dad to do every DIY home thing because my child husband can't be bothered to do it or can't be bothered to learn how to do it.


I think so too. I remember one vlog scene - possibly from the 2015 Christmas video - where Missy and Jim are jumping on a trampoline together. The way Bryan filmed and edited that clip actually made me tear up, because the love between Missy and her dad was so clear and present. She so obviously loves and respects her dad.

Bryan is basically his opposite, though, in so many ways. It makes me wonder what she saw in Bryan... But I don't suppose she was being super selective at the time, as they were both so young.

I can kind of relate to this, though. I don't regret my marriage or dislike my husband, but there are times when I wish that modern men were... A little more mature. And I realize that some are, but it's also pretty common for grown men to play video games, own "toys," and generally be less interested in adulting all the time than was usual a generation or two ago. For me, I can say that my husband was... More guarded about those sort of things, both while we were getting to know each other and in our early marriage. I suppose we were both trying harder to be each other's ideal back then. I feel like that could be true for Missy and Bryan too. She was his harbor, a place to run away from a life he describes as intolerable... He probably would have tried to be anything she wanted back then, which is either romantic or really really sad, depending on your perspective.


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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby 907ninja » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:58 pm

RecklessDisregard wrote:
longtimelurker24 wrote:Just watched the vlog.
Missy is much more relaxed when she's with just her dad or mum or brother and sister she seems so different. I think she really looks up to her dad as the "model of a man and father" and probably wishes Brian was more like him. Maybe thats why she got the tools for him for Christmas. But Brian is nothing like her dad, complete opposites. I think she may have a lot of regrets in her life choices and probably wishes she did things differently. I enjoy the clips of when it's with her and her dad I find it sweet how much she wants to please him. What went so wrong with her Brian ? You can tell she would love him to be more like her dad. Brian is immature he says stupid things and does stupid things and you can see she's getting tired of it, i would find it embarrassing having to ask my dad to do every DIY home thing because my child husband can't be bothered to do it or can't be bothered to learn how to do it.


I think so too. I remember one vlog scene - possibly from the 2015 Christmas video - where Missy and Jim are jumping on a trampoline together. The way Bryan filmed and edited that clip actually made me tear up, because the love between Missy and her dad was so clear and present. She so obviously loves and respects her dad.

Bryan is basically his opposite, though, in so many ways. It makes me wonder what she saw in Bryan... But I don't suppose she was being super selective at the time, as they were both so young.

I can kind of relate to this, though. I don't regret my marriage or dislike my husband, but there are times when I wish that modern men were... A little more mature. And I realize that some are, but it's also pretty common for grown men to play video games, own "toys," and generally be less interested in adulting all the time than was usual a generation or two ago. For me, I can say that my husband was... More guarded about those sort of things, both while we were getting to know each other and in our early marriage. I suppose we were both trying harder to be each other's ideal back then. I feel like that could be true for Missy and Bryan too. She was his harbor, a place to run away from a life he describes as intolerable... He probably would have tried to be anything she wanted back then, which is either romantic or really really sad, depending on your perspective.


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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:58 pm

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Romeoxsavexme wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:Sorry, but I have no sympathy for poor Missy if she feels trapped in her marriage. In that case she's an adult and can make adult decisions.... be with Bryan or become independent. She doesn't get to ride his coat tails (because how much work is she putting into YT) and pout because he isn't more like her dad. She's raising her children to be more like Bryan than her dad, so I honestly think that theory is full of holes anyway.

Plus it's not like he was butch and handy when she met him. He literally was an emo poser (trendy at the time) with a camera in hand and the first words he said to her were bitchy af....

Sounds like Bryan to me!


Unfortunately, it's not that easy when you're in an abusive relationship to just leave.


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Lol. Know what? As someone that's actually been in an abusive relationship, I find that suggestion not only offensive, but dangerous. We have seen nothing to suggest that Bryan is any kind of abusive towards Missy, either emotionally, verbally or physically.

Do we see Missy isolated? Do we see her being controlled? Has she had her power stripped away? Do we see her trying desperately to please her partner only to be dismissed time and time again. Is she questioned when she wants to spend time alone and miss out on events important to her partner?

Ok.... ask those same questions about Bryan.

Their relationship may be abusive, but I definitely don't see any signs of it being Bryan towards Missy. I actually think the Hollisters play on Bryan being weak and insecure. They dismiss him and keep it that way, so he'll keep catering to them and jumping through hoops.


Thank you so much. Missy is so not being abused by Bryan. She may seem happy when he's gone, but that's because she's miserable with him. But she doesn't want to pull up stakes and leave her cushy life. If anything, she abuses him. He buys her presents and says "Did I do good, babe?" And she says "meh". I don't think she is really abusive, but the warning signs fit more towards Bryan: she keeps him surrounded by her family, away from his, he jumps through hoops, and she all but pushes him away when he tries to be affectionate.

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DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:06 pm

lmmomSD wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:
Romeoxsavexme wrote:[quote="HelloSweetie"]Sorry, but I have no sympathy for poor Missy if she feels trapped in her marriage. In that case she's an adult and can make adult decisions.... be with Bryan or become independent. She doesn't get to ride his coat tails (because how much work is she putting into YT) and pout because he isn't more like her dad. She's raising her children to be more like Bryan than her dad, so I honestly think that theory is full of holes anyway.

Plus it's not like he was butch and handy when she met him. He literally was an emo poser (trendy at the time) with a camera in hand and the first words he said to her were bitchy af....

Sounds like Bryan to me!


Unfortunately, it's not that easy when you're in an abusive relationship to just leave.


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Lol. Know what? As someone that's actually been in an abusive relationship, I find that suggestion not only offensive, but dangerous. We have seen nothing to suggest that Bryan is any kind of abusive towards Missy, either emotionally, verbally or physically.

Do we see Missy isolated? Do we see her being controlled? Has she had her power stripped away? Do we see her trying desperately to please her partner only to be dismissed time and time again. Is she questioned when she wants to spend time alone and miss out on events important to her partner?

Ok.... ask those same questions about Bryan.

Their relationship may be abusive, but I definitely don't see any signs of it being Bryan towards Missy. I actually think the Hollisters play on Bryan being weak and insecure. They dismiss him and keep it that way, so he'll keep catering to them and jumping through hoops.


Thank you so much. Missy is so not being abused by Bryan. She may seem happy when he's gone, but that's because she's miserable with him. But she doesn't want to pull up stakes and leave her cushy life. If anything, she abuses him. He buys her presents and says "Did I do good, babe?" And she says "meh". I don't think she is really abusive, but the warning signs fit more towards Bryan: she keeps him surrounded by her family, away from his, he jumps through hoops, and she all but pushes him away when he tries to be affectionate.

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I get it, everyone hates on Bryan because he's the King of Douche Mountain, but that doesn't mean he deserves to be treated the way Missy does. She can move on and find happiness elsewhere and let him find someone that will love and appreciate him. He's still a person!

Let's say for a second that he did grow up with a mom that pushed him aside for men.... it doesn't take a psychology major to figure out that history is repeating itself in his marriage. Bryan is sad and pathetic in his need to be recognized for sure, but the reasons why he continues to be this way are actually quite sad if you think about it. Plus if his wife isn't recognizing his value, then his children will probably grow up to dismiss him too.

And sure he isn't handy, but he does earn enough money to still get things done around the house. He could pay someone. The fact that Missy has her dad coming over and doing things actually speaks if. Oh dart issues. Would everyone really see it the same way if it was Bryan's mom coming over to cook, bake and clean Missy's house?
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:21 pm

^ that was supposed to say "speaks of boundary issues."
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby Cgl33 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:44 pm

Neither of them show signs of abusing each other. It's a huge accusation. Bryan praises Missy for breathing so I'm pretty sure that is the opposite of abuse. And I think Missy doesn't treat Bryan very well, but that is not the same as abuse.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby Vincere » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:58 pm

So, Bryan is releasing the album on 20 Jan, and that's when Trump's inauguration is!
CONFIRMED: Bryan will sing his new album at the presidential inauguration!

I don't think money change you, but they magnify your personality: either in a good way, humility, charity etc or in a bad way, Bryan.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby Cgl33 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:20 pm

I'm thinking that Bryan either booked the party too late to book YouTube LA or he thinks he will have much bigger of a crowd. It's too expensive for a lot of parents to buy. A family of four has to spend $120 on a basic ticket, which is too much to ask after the holidays. If he planned better, he would have sold tickets before Christmas when it would have been a Christmas gift.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby Vincere » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:32 pm

I was expecting him to at least giveaway some free tickets to the viewers... But, no.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby zacmum » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:41 am

Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it.. but Cassie put a tweet up saying : "So many tragedies lately and people saying how terrible 2016 was. What's something good that happened for you in 2016? I started college"

Bryan's reply??

"we hit 2 million subscribers!!!"

Really Bryan?? That is what you first think of?? *smash my head* :x :x YouTube really does consume you doesn't it... surely there were better things than hitting a number count of YouTube.. tool.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby zacmum » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:47 am

HelloSweetie wrote:
zacmum wrote:I'm only just watching the Christmas vlog so a bit behind, but I cannot believe they went through some gifts without Finn!!!
1. he's not a bloody baby anymore. and 2. even if he was, he IS apart of the family.. why was he not there?
Too hard to deal with him? Seriously. My son was 8wks old on his first xmas and he couldn't do anything but we made sure he was sitting there in his rocker apart of it all.
What ass holes. Sorry but this would have been another perfect way to teach Ollie some manners. We should wait for Finn or go wake him up. It's Christmas ffs. I'm sure waking Finn a little early on one day wont kill you guys. :x :x


I really hate to defend them here but waiting for a baby to wake up to do Christmas, is a little different than holding off an older child and waiting for the baby to wake up.

Sure they could have waited to do some of the gifts, but why would B&M treat Finn any different on Christmas than they do every other day?


Yeah this is why I also said, maybe they should have woken Finn up. I dunno what the time was when they woke up, or how long it was until Finn woke up but surely they could have woken Finn up earlier that day. Everyone parents differently I guess, but there's no way I would start Christmas without all my kids there. Waking my 1yr old up 30mins-an hour earlier for 1 day I don't see the big deal.
It just put a bad taste in my mouth. You are right, why would they treat Finn any different? After all, wasn't that trampoline for Finn & Ollie? Bryan said Ollies trampoline. And that kitchen Ollie got, Bryan goes, oh you can play with it, with (pey or liv). How about your brother?! Shouldn't be surprised at all.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby RecklessDisregard » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:55 am

Amelia322 wrote:Which clip?! I need to see lol!


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I can never successfully post links here, but I just went back and checked - it was indeed from the "Emotional Christmas" 2015 vlog, so just search that on YT. The timestamp is around 45:40.

It didn't seem quite as special this time, after just skimming the video to find that clip... So maybe it was better in context, or I was having an emotional day the first time I watched it, hahah. Even so, it's more genuine than anything I have ever seen in their vlogs, IMO.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby longtimelurker24 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:32 am

I agree with you all on that she's older enough to change things in her life , but sometimes is not as easy as that you can tell she's been sheltered all her life and have never really in some ways grown up. Her and Brian are so different and when teens proabably where good together now as adults we hardly see any affection between them just the casual "are babe you look so good". Brian is a Wanabee and fame hungry, he is constantly trying to fit in with whatever's popular at the moment. Missy is antisocial and you can tell she would rather spend her days in the garden with just her parents all day. They just always seem awkward together and I definatly don't believe she is in a abbusive relationship. I'm not saying Brian is the worst husband and father because his not but he really needs to look and rearrange his priorities again, he Nevers seems relaxed and himself it's awkward to watch. And missy needs to grow up aswell in a lot of ways she relays way too much on her parents if she desperately (and it's prettty clear) wants Brian to be more like her dad she needs to cut the cords a bit with her parents in the beginning and give Brian the room to be there like her dad is for her, In a way they are in the way of him stepping up. Ollie too is so different around his auntie, i loved the Vlog with him and Cassie on her channel he actually seemed to have a bit of character. Maybe it's because she treats him like a person and not a prop for a Vlog.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby longtimelurker24 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:52 am

I know this is a bit of a random comment but as I was saying about them being in what looks like a pretty unhappy marrige, do you think they argue? Brian doesn't seem like he would have a full blown argument maybe i'm seeing things wrong lol. And missy looks like the kind of person who would make small passive aggressive comments or say something under her breathe. Having an argument is a good thing in a couple sometimes it's needed in a way it creates passion. When you argue it's like you fight for something in a way showing that you care, its passion for the other person. I get the feeling they don't even communicate much let alone argue. Maybe i'm wrong lol.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby KatherineLouvain » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:09 am

zacmum wrote:Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it.. but Cassie put a tweet up saying : "So many tragedies lately and people saying how terrible 2016 was. What's something good that happened for you in 2016? I started college"

Bryan's reply??

"we hit 2 million subscribers!!!"

Really Bryan?? That is what you first think of?? *smash my head* :x :x YouTube really does consume you doesn't it... surely there were better things than hitting a number count of YouTube.. tool.


It confuses me greatly how Cassie and Jimmy turned out so sweet and respectful and Missy... well, she's capable of being sweet and respectful but she's also capable of being the biggest bitch from bitch mountain


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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby VJ13 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:34 am

I can't believe they're doing a party for "my debut album" GET LOST!!!
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby twinklepink88 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:36 am

Vincere wrote:I was expecting him to at least giveaway some free tickets to the viewers... But, no.


Right?!?

It just blows my mind how they continue to get away with being so thankless and greedy! They show themselves every day, lavishing pretty much every possible luxury they can think of upon themselves and Missy's entire extended family... what in the heck do they need to take MORE money from 10 year olds for?!?

I don't watch any other family vloggers who are signed to agencies (is that what it is called?), but whenever I watch them I really wonder just how much say their agency place has on what they show, what topics they talk about, and their branding of themselves in general... is it possible they only come off looking like they do because excessive consumerism gets great views on Youtube and they have been instructed by their managers to take their channel in that direction in order to make more money for the agency?? And maybe they aren't "allowed" or have been advised not to talk about real topics such as their miscarriage/still birth or have real discussions like other vloggers do because they are particularly trying to market themselves to children?

Although I'm sure not even a money hungry corporation would have any problem with them thanking their viewers once in a while, or having a giveaway, so that can't be the reason why they never do that without asking for views / votes / donations immediately after.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby shewolf_07 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:16 am

twinklepink88 wrote:
Vincere wrote:I was expecting him to at least giveaway some free tickets to the viewers... But, no.


Right?!?

It just blows my mind how they continue to get away with being so thankless and greedy! They show themselves every day, lavishing pretty much every possible luxury they can think of upon themselves and Missy's entire extended family... *what in the heck do they need to take MORE money from 10 year olds for*?!?


This! Viewers don't even realize how much they're being exploited. When was they last time they've even done a giveaway? Have they ever? Did they do a giveaway when they hit 2mil? So many questions!!! Also best believe that when sale projections plummet, he'll have ticket giveaways to make up numbers. Wouldn't be surprised if he had to give away half of em. Who does he really think he is? If Jared ever decided to pursue music, as obnoxious as he is, I'd rather spend 30 bucks to see him than this poser.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby Playsinrain » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:59 am

shewolf_07 wrote:
twinklepink88 wrote:
Vincere wrote:I was expecting him to at least giveaway some free tickets to the viewers... But, no.


Right?!?

It just blows my mind how they continue to get away with being so thankless and greedy! They show themselves every day, lavishing pretty much every possible luxury they can think of upon themselves and Missy's entire extended family... *what in the heck do they need to take MORE money from 10 year olds for*?!?


This! Viewers don't even realize how much they're being exploited. When was they last time they've even done a giveaway? Have they ever? Did they do a giveaway when they hit 2mil? So many questions!!! Also best believe that when sale projections plummet, he'll have ticket giveaways to make up numbers. Wouldn't be surprised if he had to give away half of em. Who does he really think he is? If Jared ever decided to pursue music, as obnoxious as he is, I'd rather spend 30 bucks to see him than this poser.


At least Jared seems to have some natural talent and actually practices and tries to better his talents. His dad is a pretty good guitarist and doesnt have a bad voice, and we see Jared playing with his dad often. It least he seems open to lessons (even if from his dad) unlike Bryan
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:10 am

KatherineLouvain wrote:
zacmum wrote:Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it.. but Cassie put a tweet up saying : "So many tragedies lately and people saying how terrible 2016 was. What's something good that happened for you in 2016? I started college"

Bryan's reply??

"we hit 2 million subscribers!!!"

Really Bryan?? That is what you first think of?? *smash my head* :x :x YouTube really does consume you doesn't it... surely there were better things than hitting a number count of YouTube.. tool.


It confuses me greatly how Cassie and Jimmy turned out so sweet and respectful and Missy... well, she's capable of being sweet and respectful but she's also capable of being the biggest bitch from bitch mountain


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She was spoiled and treated like the favourite while the other two were largely ignored. She was the Oliver.

And she was raised to be like Mimi. She's a miserable, unhappy bitch because her mother is. It's not Bryan's fault that Missy is the way she is... it's Mimi and Papa's. That's why I don't actually think they are doing much to help Oliver grow and to protect him from his idiot parents. Missy is just following the Mimi playbook for raising children while maintaining a general slothery.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby tintin15 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:37 am

Bryan and Missy and the Hollisters strike me as the type of people who you would meet and they would be SUPER nice, but as soon as you leave they bitch about you.

Except, I don't think Jim, Jimmy, or Cassie would do that. I don't even think Bryan would do that. I think Missy would be like, "Wow, he/she was SO annoying," and Mimi would reply with, "I know, right?" and they would just bitch. I think Bryan would try to say some positive things. Because, as much as Bryan is a trendy, desperate douche, I think he's generally an okay guy. Just misguided, uneducated, and with an inflated ego.

Missy is honestly the type of person, to me, who acts nice, but is not a great person. I sense a lot of malice and jealousy with her.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby cocogogo » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:39 am

I just went back to the part 1 thread about daily bumps. It's sad to see how much they've changed. This is just one of many nice things people said about them.

'OMG I just found her videos and I love them so much too! She has such a great personality and her and husband seem like a great team! I think she's clearly shown that she has original ideas. PLUS have you seen her bloopers in some of her videos!? They're hilarious and show how real she is'
You wouldn't even say they were talking about Missy would you! It's real sad..I also watched back some of the Christmas special when ollie had his first Christmas. So so so different.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby tintin15 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:40 am

I don't think Missy STRIVES to be a bad person, she's perfectly capable of doing good things and being good. It's just that her upbringing and her family fucked her up pretty badly.
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Re: DailyFinnderella (part 78)

Postby pllfan5 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:20 am

zacmum wrote:Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it.. but Cassie put a tweet up saying : "So many tragedies lately and people saying how terrible 2016 was. What's something good that happened for you in 2016? I started college"

Bryan's reply??

"we hit 2 million subscribers!!!"

Really Bryan?? That is what you first think of?? *smash my head* :x :x YouTube really does consume you doesn't it... surely there were better things than hitting a number count of YouTube.. tool.

Wow, that is so sad that his subscriber count is the very first thing that came to his mind. Then again, maybe it wasn't and he was just bragging again. I'm surprised he didn't mention Like a Liar being at the top of the iTunes charts.
But seriously, what about seeing Finn walk for the first time? What about having the chance to travel to Aulani and London with the family? What about seeing Ollie with Luna for the first time on Christmas morning?

Your family is more important than your subscriber count Bryan


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