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E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:27 pm

I feel exactly the same way. I think Ellie and Jared should get demonetized as well. Partly because they walk a very narrow line. Jared knows what gets views, and he knows just where those views are coming from. And he uses titillating tags, and BTW, so does Molly Mormon Carlie Butler. She actually used tags like "MILF", "bondage", and things like that. Jared uses "kids in bathtub" as a tag. Only weirdos search for kids in bathtubs.

As far as the money goes, and the kids, unfortunately, there are no laws in place. It's a family owned business, so child labor laws don't apply. And they aren't actually "actors" legally, so those laws don't apply to them either. It's awful. The parents are living high on the hog, and there's no indication that any real money is being put away for the little moneymakers.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:35 pm

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natalka81 wrote:While I agree that the underwear, toilet training, bathtime photos, and all others that showed children in various states of undress were extremely troubling (and that Bonnie isn't innocent in this), why is it that her channel has to get demonetized when the others' don't? Maybe I'm just cranky because she's the one I really like, and the others not so much, but also I think I'm upset because kids like Ollie and Finn are essentially working for their parents. They seem more and more scripted every day. Ollie rarely looks happy or engaged in anything, and always seems to be looking off camera for someone to tell him what expression he should be wearing on his face. I mean, there have got to be labour laws in place for this kind of crap! I don't think E&J are nearly as bad for this (although they are certainly worse in the underwear-showing department) but it seems evident that a huge overhaul of youtube guidelines and regulations is necessary. Whatever happens, I think it would be sad to lose Bonnie and Joel. The others I can do without. Might (a very faint might) give them more time to focus on doing things that kids at that level of development actually benefit from rather than just tearing open boxes filled with plastic toys and/or comforting their mothers. *And I'm aware the demonetization stuff may actually have little to do with the underwear vlogs..


I completely agree. Bonnie isn't guilt free, but she is by no means the worst either.

Is it stuff like this that YT is going after though? I thought the problem was in vlogs that weren't advertiser friendly, or that snuck inappropriate content into vlogs directly marketed to children with the intent to scare/traumatize? Does anyone have the specifics on what exactly YT is trying to do to make videos safer for children? I thought the idea was to protect the viewers, and didn't get the impression they were concerned about the children being vlogged at all.
I had heard that it was both. There was the issue with the bait and switch, where kids would go to a "Superhero" video and it would be sexual, but there is also the issue of inappropriate comments. That's why some vlogs have just had comments disabled. Even Bratayley had that happen on some vlogs. They did some "poolside yoga" vlog that had them stretching by a pool in their bathing suits. And the bathtub videos are a particular target as well.

I agree that Bonnie's channel is just the first of their bunch. Maybe it's alphabetical. I don't think E&J will escape unscathed, although someone is deleting videos, lol. Don't know if it's YouTube or Jared!

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby spooky » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:36 pm

So the day Bonnie's channel is demonetized, E&J put up a video that shows Calvin running around in a pull-up/underwear (and nothing else) for almost two minutes and then him next to the toilet after flushing. Hope YT flags their channel next; Jared is super creepy and deserves to get hit where it hurts for exposing their kids the way he does.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby ferriswheel » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:47 pm

I read today that Google wants to hire 10,000 people to help monitor both videos and comments on YouTube. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and hopefully after Daddy o five having his two biological kids taken away because of abuse disguised as "pranks" and that odd toyfreaks channel being shut down, YouTube starts taking child safety claims more seriously.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby zipadeedodah » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:49 pm

ferriswheel wrote:I read today that Google wants to hire 10,000 people to help monitor both videos and comments on YouTube. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and hopefully after Daddy o five having his two biological kids taken away because of abuse disguised as "pranks" and that odd toyfreaks channel being shut down, YouTube starts taking child safety claims more seriously.

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I bet that would be an interesting job. Very repetitive though and would probably get boring after a while though.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby zipadeedodah » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:51 pm

ferriswheel wrote:I read today that Google wants to hire 10,000 people to help monitor both videos and comments on YouTube. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and hopefully after Daddy o five having his two biological kids taken away because of abuse disguised as "pranks" and that odd toyfreaks channel being shut down, YouTube starts taking child safety claims more seriously.

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I bet that would be an interesting job. Very repetitive though and would probably get boring after a while though.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby GuavaMama » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:56 pm

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Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:59 pm

zipadeedodah wrote:
ferriswheel wrote:I read today that Google wants to hire 10,000 people to help monitor both videos and comments on YouTube. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and hopefully after Daddy o five having his two biological kids taken away because of abuse disguised as "pranks" and that odd toyfreaks channel being shut down, YouTube starts taking child safety claims more seriously.

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I bet that would be an interesting job. Very repetitive though and would probably get boring after a while though.
And depressing.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:02 pm

GuavaMama wrote:[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/3c7c5a1efe4cfde68872782b49e03152.jpg[/img]

Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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The D- is new! It's showing that they are -94 million views! That's the reason for the low grade
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:02 pm

GuavaMama wrote:[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/3c7c5a1efe4cfde68872782b49e03152.jpg[/img]

Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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Sounds like they are hitting her. Some channels are only having some vlogs demonetized. Give it a day or two. E&J will start tweeting about how unfair it all is. And of course, take no responsibility for their own actions.
Funny. Their "success" is all due to their hard work, and God being happy with the way they live their lives. But things like this aren't their fault. It's all "so unfair", and people are just jealous haters.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:10 pm

lmmomSD wrote:
GuavaMama wrote:[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/3c7c5a1efe4cfde68872782b49e03152.jpg[/img]

Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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Sounds like they are hitting her. Some channels are only having some vlogs demonetized. Give it a day or two. E&J will start tweeting about how unfair it all is. And of course, take no responsibility for their own actions.
Funny. Their "success" is all due to their hard work, and God being happy with the way they live their lives. But things like this aren't their fault. It's all "so unfair", and people are just jealous haters.

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How can they complain though when the e aced like it's all for the memories? Based on recent comments I've seen, many minions seriously think they have income from other areas, and YT is a sacrifice they make to share their lives
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby GuavaMama » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:13 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
GuavaMama wrote:[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/3c7c5a1efe4cfde68872782b49e03152.jpg[/img]

Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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The D- is new! It's showing that they are -94 million views! That's the reason for the low grade


Oh ok I see why they are at D -. Ruby must be freaking out. Remember how upset she was over some other channel imitating their videos. She was like a little kid throwing a tantrum.


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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby GuavaMama » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:25 pm

lmmomSD wrote:
GuavaMama wrote:[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171207/3c7c5a1efe4cfde68872782b49e03152.jpg[/img]

Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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Sounds like they are hitting her. Some channels are only having some vlogs demonetized. Give it a day or two. E&J will start tweeting about how unfair it all is. And of course, take no responsibility for their own actions.
Funny. Their "success" is all due to their hard work, and God being happy with the way they live their lives. But things like this aren't their fault. It's all "so unfair", and people are just jealous haters.

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I wonder if we can see if the channel is demonetized or just certain vlogs.

I would love to be a fly on the wall right. They must be freaking out.


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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:29 pm

Does anyone else think there's a part of Ellie that might be enjoying this? I mean, despite the threat that it could happen to her channel, but my guess is she thinks they are invincible and that Ruby and Bonnie are just somehow getting punished by God.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby 8elz » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:32 pm

Ok, so hypothetically let’s say E+J get demonetised and YT won’t restore their account.. What do you think will happen with E+J?

Not only do they have a mortgage to pay, they now have a third child on the way so they’ll be a family of 5 plus a dog. Maybe they have some savings, maybe they don’t but even if they do, it’s not going to last forever.

So, do we think J would go back to Verizon (was that where he worked?) or would he try and find a job/start a business doing say videography?

Do you think that they would sell things like the camper and the new (used) car? Would E sell some of the expensive things she owns (like the $800 jacket someone mentioned earlier)?

If they get demonetised, I can’t see them continuing to upload even though they say it’s for us/the memories so we probably won’t have any idea what they’re actually doing with their lives lol. Oh to be a fly on the wall in family vloggers houses right now


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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby GuavaMama » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:52 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:Does anyone else think there's a part of Ellie that might be enjoying this? I mean, despite the threat that it could happen to her channel, but my guess is she thinks they are invincible and that Ruby and Bonnie are just somehow getting punished by God.


I think she is enjoying it. Even if it’s just a little. It must have definitely hit a nerve when their channel wasn’t doing well and Ruby was bringing in all those views and subs.

I remember a video when Ruby was riding the hover board for the first time and Ellie made a comment about Ruby being the oldest and always being good at everything she did.




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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby CurbUrEnthusiasm » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:19 am

It was still there a month or so ago when someone here asked for the title.

I bet Jared has been working hard today removing videos![/quote]

They prob deleted it the second YT decided to crack down on child exploitation videos. They did it to save their own asses.

pun intended.[/quote]

I didn't mean to laugh as hard as I did - but I did and I'm not very sorry.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby CurbUrEnthusiasm » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:26 am

GuavaMama wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:
GuavaMama wrote:
Some of Ruby’s video are showing up red. It’s also showing negative earnings. I wonder why their channel has a D -rating.


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The D- is new! It's showing that they are -94 million views! That's the reason for the low grade


Oh ok I see why they are at D -. Ruby must be freaking out. Remember how upset she was over some other channel imitating their videos. She was like a little kid throwing a tantrum.


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Wow, the Griffiths women are not humble. Hasn't she heard that imitation is the biggest form of flattery?
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby Kay91_ » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:56 am

Not sure if this has been mentioned but has anyone heard of Patreon? I don't know that much about it other than a bunch of youtubers have started posting videos there because of this and to watch you have to sign up for a paid membership. I wonder if E&J, B&J and/or Ruby will get one soon.


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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby onbreak » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:21 am

Patreon is basically the viewers paying YouTuber's. I don't see little kids paying 5-10 youtube channels that are family vlog channels.
Be sides what would we ask e&j for.. Jackson footage?
I dont see her selling anything willingly. Even her makeup she gave away to church girls was used. #herpesforall
He better up his marketing game to get advertiser's to sponsor the vlogs.

My kids have a channel. Is just them being kids and it was demonetized for invalid click activity. Not sure how since my kids made no money and have like 40 subs- that are all family.
I wonder if those paid views and subs are what is causing this and they arent saying anything to save face.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby RootBeerFloatie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:24 am

Here's a rundown on the YT situation.

In March, advertisers started pulling out of YouTube after finding their videos running net to Isis recruitment videos and other inappropriate content. YouTube developed a bot to flag videos but cast a very wide net that hit a lot of people unfairly just based on tags, titles, or thumbnails. Individual videos were being demonetized.

Fastforward to now. It's come to light that a lot of videos on YouTube and YouTube Kids that are targeted at children (popular characters, bright colors, etc) actually depict violence and sexual content. Parents thought kids were watching innocent videos through the app, but upon further investigation found a shocking amount of inappropriate videos. These include things like characters pooping, spanking each other, shooting heads off, etc.

They also found a lot of inappropriate comments on videos featuring children, admiring them sexually. Because of these things YouTube is cracking down on inappropriate content aimed at children. This can be anything they feel is presented to children but contains material not suitable for them.

They're once again casting a wide net, but I can't help but agree in the case of family vloggers. Little kids shouldn't be watching the videos that E&J, Ruby, or even Bonnie put up on a regular basis. Not to mention that these videos are basically free content for pedophiles, and YouTube may be hesitant to monetize them at all in the future because of this. Only time will tell how this will play out but we may be seeing an end to the unregulated YouTube gravy train.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby RootBeerFloatie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:29 am

I wanted to add that YouTube may have taken down that baby butt video, not Jared, though that's also possible.

I watch a gaming comedy channel, Funhaus, that did an episode playing shitty Frozen flash games they found online. Their thumbnail was a cartoon image of Anna pregnant (from one of the games they played) and YouTube recently removed it. They said that it's not just flagged or demonetized, it's just straight up removed from their channel altogether because YouTube deemed it inappropriate. That may be what happened in this case.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby Kaylor1 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:45 am

RootBeerFloatie wrote:I wanted to add that YouTube may have taken down that baby butt video, not Jared, though that's also possible.

I watch a gaming comedy channel, Funhaus, that did an episode playing shitty Frozen flash games they found online. Their thumbnail was a cartoon image of Anna pregnant (from one of the games they played) and YouTube recently removed it. They said that it's not just flagged or demonetized, it's just straight up removed from their channel altogether because YouTube deemed it inappropriate. That may be what happened in this case.
I hope so. But with their delay we won't hear anything from E&J for a few more days. If they address it at all. And I'm assuming Ellie will be playing the victim card.

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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:51 am

Kaylor1 wrote:
RootBeerFloatie wrote:I wanted to add that YouTube may have taken down that baby butt video, not Jared, though that's also possible.

I watch a gaming comedy channel, Funhaus, that did an episode playing shitty Frozen flash games they found online. Their thumbnail was a cartoon image of Anna pregnant (from one of the games they played) and YouTube recently removed it. They said that it's not just flagged or demonetized, it's just straight up removed from their channel altogether because YouTube deemed it inappropriate. That may be what happened in this case.
I hope so. But with their delay we won't hear anything from E&J for a few more days. If they address it at all. And I'm assuming Ellie will be playing the victim card.

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Ellie will do what she does best when faced with something difficult....

She'll buy herself a new treat.

I 100% think she'll get herself that stupid Polaris or whatever it is she wants. Jared won't stop her. They knew about the potential for their channel to be hit when she said that if this has been going on awhile like RBF says. She just doesn't want to live in reality.
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Re: E+J: No Longer Infertile, Just Insensitive | Part 34

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:12 am

Mapped the distance between Bonnie and Ellie's and it's absurd that Ellie thinks she needs a covered 4 wheeler to drive there. It's a 6 minute drive by car, and a 35 minute walk. I realize Joel has driven his 4 wheeler there before, but he already owns one. Ellie just needs to drive there in the covered vehicle she already has.

It's all residential too. It's not like there is a rural shortcut she can take if she has an ATV
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