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E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

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Postby Boredomatitsfinest » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:12 am

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Eye-rolling so hard at the irony of Ellie mentioning this anxiety all the time as an excuse for all kinds of things, while somehow still preaching the Mormon philosophy of "just be happy."

I'm no stranger to anxiety. I have it. My son has it. Even a lot of my friends have it... all to varying degrees. We all have tools to manage it, but no one I know would smugly tell others to just get out and do things more, or be brave. There is no one solution. Like with IF, how can Ellie have such a lack of empathy (or understanding) for others going through something she's struggled through. Giving this advice to someone with anxiety is like telling someone with depression that the solution is to just try smiling more


Yes. Everything you said. Yes

This drives me up the wall. I can't take how superficial she is. I too suffer from anxiety, and have for as far back as my memories go. If I was able to "change a few things" and become "happier than ever" and had ANY type of platform where people cared what I had to say, you can bet your sweet ass I would share every detail in hopes of helping others.

It's beyond irritating how she keeps putting out these little anecdotes about anxiety but /juuuust/ enough to bring her attention for being such a "strong" and "positive" person, but no more than that. I know I'm looking way too far into this but when I start to analyze it, it's offensive. This woman has zero empathy whatsoever. All she cares about is having the spotlight on her, whatever it takes.

And you can't use the excuse that, "it's a personal subject and she's not obliged to share. She doesn't feel comfortable blah blah blah." Because this woman basically shares what her shit looks and smells like, which is far more personal than sharing what helped you get through a hard time.

I feel like I'm just repeating myself here, but, what I'm really trying to say is: If you want to keep something private, then keep it private. But DON'T share little tidbits about it just to gain compliments and inquiries for the sake of feeding your ego. She reminds me of those attention hungry girls in high school that would say they looked fat or ugly just to hear people tell them how pretty they are!


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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Scar2016 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:02 am

nutbagmcgee wrote:Ellie folding laundry on the bathroom floor grosses me out so much. They are gross people and you know that floor is disgusting.

Well, if she's kneeling on the floor by the toilet as she's folding clothes, she might be multi tasking, if you get my drift..
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Cgl33 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:30 am

Ellie, you can't just wish anxiety away. The only way to treat it is by managing it using professional tools like therapy and/or medications. Otherwise, you are just burying it. It might work this month or this year, but it will come back and be even worse than before.

This is where I feel a little (just a little) bad for Ellie because I think her lack of understanding of mental illness is likely a product of her environment. I'm guessing her parents and her church both subscribe to the pick yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy. Yeah, that's great if you are having a bad day, but harmful if you suffer from something more serious and/or chronic. I think of what Ellie told that girl on twitter who said she was anxious and had suicidal thoughts. Ellie told her that she just keeps busy. Ellie, as the adult in that conversation, you should have told her she needs to to talk to her parents, that it's serious, and given her a suicide hotline number.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Scar2016 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:40 am

The vlog title seems to be missing two words: SHE TOOK IT (Her Weight) TOO FAR! ... http://imgur.com/a/vzXgW
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:48 am

I think for Ellie anxiety is the new acne. It a new word she learned to excuse all.

I think she was sad and bitter because her sisters had nicer things than she did, and she now feels on top so she's a little happier and her "anxiety" is cured.

When that house doesn't feel as new and someone else buys something (or does something) that Ellie envies, I expect the anxiety problems (or acne) will return.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby lilwhiteindian » Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:51 am

Scar2016 wrote:The vlog title seems to be missing two words: SHE TOOK IT (Her Weight) TOO FAR! ... http://imgur.com/a/vzXgW


Holy crap that is seriously concerning! And the number of girls that are potentially gonna look at her and want to be that thin terrifies me! Personal but as someone who had an eating disorder as a teenager, it never leaves you, even when you've recovered - I fight a battle in my head everyday especially after putting on weight due to several chronic illnesses.
I just cannot understand how her family just ignore it or even enable it?? I'd be seriously worried about the effect it will have on Jackson and Calvin's relationship with food as they grow up. I know all of this has already been said, but it really does terrify me :/


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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Scar2016 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:11 am

HelloSweetie wrote:I think for Ellie anxiety is the new acne. It a new word she learned to excuse all.

I think she was sad and bitter because her sisters had nicer things than she did, and she now feels on top so she's a little happier and her "anxiety" is cured.

When that house doesn't feel as new and someone else buys something (or does something) that Ellie envies, I expect the anxiety problems (or acne) will return.

This 100%. It's not anxiety. It's jealousy. The world HAS to revolve around Ellie. Because Ellie is incapable (or refuses to) of revolving around the world. Selfish, self centered, self serving.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Cgl33 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:36 am

HelloSweetie wrote:I think for Ellie anxiety is the new acne. It a new word she learned to excuse all.

I think she was sad and bitter because her sisters had nicer things than she did, and she now feels on top so she's a little happier and her "anxiety" is cured.

When that house doesn't feel as new and someone else buys something (or does something) that Ellie envies, I expect the anxiety problems (or acne) will return.


She said that 9 months ago she started to change. 9 months ago they started making decisions on the house.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby tratra58 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:37 am

Cgl33 wrote:Ellie, you can't just wish anxiety away. The only way to treat it is by managing it using professional tools like therapy and/or medications. Otherwise, you are just burying it. It might work this month or this year, but it will come back and be even worse than before.

This is where I feel a little (just a little) bad for Ellie because I think her lack of understanding of mental illness is likely a product of her environment. I'm guessing her parents and her church both subscribe to the pick yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy. Yeah, that's great if you are having a bad day, but harmful if you suffer from something more serious and/or chronic. I think of what Ellie told that girl on twitter who said she was anxious and had suicidal thoughts. Ellie told her that she just keeps busy. Ellie, as the adult in that conversation, you should have told her she needs to to talk to her parents, that it's serious, and given her a suicide hotline number.


That is plain scary how Ellie responded. It also says how Social Media has issues when you see nonprofessionals giving out advice and/or not referring to them to appropriate/professional help like you stated.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby lmmomSD » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:59 am

RecklessDisregard wrote:I've never had a big laundry room, usually just a closet where the machines are tucked away. As soon as the clothes come out of the dryer, they go to the sofa or bed to be folded, hung, etc. I just cannot imagine separating and folding laundry on the floor - especially in the vicinity of a toilet! I've seen toilets in laundry rooms a few times, always in older houses, and though it seems redundant, I don't find it nearly as disturbing as putting clean clothes on the floor!

I admit it's totally a nitpick, and not serious. But if I got to design my forever home, I agree with those who said a folding station would be ideal, with a long wide counter. And shelves. And a hanging rack. I mean, there are a lot of things I would have chosen differently than E+J, but laundry is a practical concern. I certainly can't picture myself on the hard floor processing clean clothes in my dream home.

When we built our house in Washington, we had a combination mud room/laundry room. It had a deep sink for soaking or rinsing stuff out, a folding counter, and lots of cabinets. No toilet, but we had plenty of bathrooms. I totally agree that it's ridiculous to design it and have it so she has to sit on the floor (eww, with all the guys in the house!) and fold laundry.
God, I loved that house. Too bad my husband and I split and we had to sell it.

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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby actuallydear » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:15 am

at the beginning of the vlog i thought ellie's face looked fuller and glowy.... just like it did when she was pregnant.

and then the constant references with kids the same ages and her friend being pregnant.

AND THEN the bit in the car where they say they've been meaning to talk on the vlog about it, but don't know when. the way it was worded, made me go "hmmmmm".
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:19 am

actuallydear wrote:at the beginning of the vlog i thought ellie's face looked fuller and glowy.... just like it did when she was pregnant.

and then the constant references with kids the same ages and her friend being pregnant.

AND THEN the bit in the car where they say they've been meaning to talk on the vlog about it, but don't know when. the way it was worded, made me go "hmmmmm".


Right? There have been a lot of signs and hints leaving me wondering if they aren't trying to get people guessing and curious to build up hype.

Know what usually builds hype? A belly usually builds hype, and since Ellie doesn't have one it could take a while for people to start wondering.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby actuallydear » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:24 am

HelloSweetie wrote:
actuallydear wrote:at the beginning of the vlog i thought ellie's face looked fuller and glowy.... just like it did when she was pregnant.

and then the constant references with kids the same ages and her friend being pregnant.

AND THEN the bit in the car where they say they've been meaning to talk on the vlog about it, but don't know when. the way it was worded, made me go "hmmmmm".


Right? There have been a lot of signs and hints leaving me wondering if they aren't trying to get people guessing and curious to build up hype.

Know what usually builds hype? A belly usually builds hype, and since Ellie doesn't have one it could take a while for people to start wondering.

i keep going back and forth between whether or not they're actively trying right now. i don't think she would get pregnant without the use of fertility treatments again.. and i think they know that will bring the views back in, especially since they're doing the big ivf bonanza thing. i'm also in two minds on whether or not they'll be open with the journey, or just plain come out and be all "surprise" like b&m did (as predicted).

documenting the journey would garner more adult views, but a large majority of their viewership are children so they could actually lose views if they focus too much on the process of getting pregnant VS a baby announcement.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby nutbagmcgee » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:34 am

Ellie hung out with "friends" today, I bet she was like a fish out of water. I also bet she was beyond twitchy because that was a messy house!!
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby JoCo 89 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:19 am

For real!! If you have anxiety, GET PROFESSIONAL HELP!!! They can afford it! And her view if emotions and of mental health is SO TOXIC, and probably qualifies as neglect or abuse when directed at her children. It makes me so mad and sad and scared..
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby JoCo 89 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:21 am

Does anyone else think that the typical Mormon approach to parenting tends towards spiritual and emotional abuse?
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby JoCo 89 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:26 am

JoCo 89 wrote:Does anyone else think that the typical Mormon approach to parenting tends towards spiritual and emotional abuse?


"Emotional abuse— consistent shaming, criticism, or neglect of wants, needs, desires, feelings, and emotions by a dominant partner, parent, spouse, or figure(s) of authority."

"According to David Henke who founded the Watchman Fellowship, spiritual abuse has five distinct characteristics: authoritarianism, image consciousness, suppression of criticism, perfectionistic standards, and imbalance in belief or practice. In the context of family, these features are particularly noxious"
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E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:28 am

JoCo 89 wrote:Does anyone else think that the typical Mormon approach to parenting tends towards spiritual and emotional abuse?


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Only the parents are allowed to have opinions, thoughts and feelings. Don't ever tell Ellie to be happy! She'll make a passive aggressive tweet about it. But the kids are forced to be happy/appreciative/grateful 24/7.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby workfromhomemom » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:36 am

Ellie, if you are reading here, which I believe you do. There is no shame in getting help for anxiety. Medication has helped me tremendously. I have dealt with it my entire life and I can't imagine how different my life would have been if it had been treated sooner. Don't let your culture shame you into thinking it is wrong to treat it. Also, try and talk to a professional about your weight and your BMI and help gaining weight.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby navarjul000 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:13 am

I too, like many here, have dealt with anxiety and I agree 100% with getting professional help. The only time I didn't get professional help (1st semester of college) was because I couldn't afford it, but I just so happened to have a roommate who was being trained in the field.
I have a mom who tells me everything is in the mind, which I believe to an extent, but she took as far as telling me, when I had depression and anxiety in high school, that I just needed to be happy and I needed to tell myself that I was fine. I personally know how damaging that can be, so for Ellie to preach the "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" philosophy is actually very offensive. To make an illness out to be much simpler than it is is not only misleading but a downright lie, to yourself and to others. Because, Ellie, if you are really suffering from anxiety and haven't just been suppressing it then you would know it's not that simple to deal with. Anyway, my point is, Ellie needs to get a handle on herself and on the way she preaches life to the world. She has a young audience and she needs to be more responsible, and act like the freaking adult she is. Not the center-of-attention child she wishes to be.

Also, in reference to someone's comment with the screenshots of Ellie's instagram post, am I the only one who noticed quite a few grammar and punctuation errors? Am I the only one extremely bothered by it?
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby crew96 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:18 am

HelloSweetie wrote:
actuallydear wrote:at the beginning of the vlog i thought ellie's face looked fuller and glowy.... just like it did when she was pregnant.

and then the constant references with kids the same ages and her friend being pregnant.

AND THEN the bit in the car where they say they've been meaning to talk on the vlog about it, but don't know when. the way it was worded, made me go "hmmmmm".


Right? There have been a lot of signs and hints leaving me wondering if they aren't trying to get people guessing and curious to build up hype.

Know what usually builds hype? A belly usually builds hype, and since Ellie doesn't have one it could take a while for people to start wondering.


She was in the hot tub tho?


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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby actuallydear » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:26 am

True. It wouldn't surprise me if she still went in the hot tub while heavily pregnant. I can't see them only just getting it and everyone else having all the fun. So once she is pregnant, it will be probably closed off for everybody if she doesn't use it.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:27 am

crew96 wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:
actuallydear wrote:at the beginning of the vlog i thought ellie's face looked fuller and glowy.... just like it did when she was pregnant.

and then the constant references with kids the same ages and her friend being pregnant.

AND THEN the bit in the car where they say they've been meaning to talk on the vlog about it, but don't know when. the way it was worded, made me go "hmmmmm".


Right? There have been a lot of signs and hints leaving me wondering if they aren't trying to get people guessing and curious to build up hype.

Know what usually builds hype? A belly usually builds hype, and since Ellie doesn't have one it could take a while for people to start wondering.


She was in the hot tub tho?


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And rolling around in the snow. Those definitely made me think she couldn't be pregnant as I had previously wondered. Then again, Missy and Ellie have always gone in the hot tub when pregnant, and supposedly just turn the temp down.

I'm sure she isn't pregnant, but I just wouldn't be shocked if she was. There is definitely something different and they have a big secret for sure.

If another Griffith gets pregnant, we will see Ellie's anxiety return in full force, and IF will be right up there with BREASTFEEDING or FUN for most used words.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby HashtagBlessed » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:59 am

I just read a comment on the "SHE TOOK IT TOO FAR!" vlog that said, "Ellie has a body most women would die for." Who are these people?? That is so far from the body most women want. She looks ill. Why is that something to be envious of? I'm not saying this to be mean, but she looks pre-pubescent. I can only assume the people making positive comments about Ellie's size also suffer from some sort of body dysmorphia. Ruby and Julie both look naturally thin and age appropriate. Ellie looks like she's aged 15 years and is skin and bones now.
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Re: E+E - It's all about ME! Part 20

Postby Vincere » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Ellie: Uncle Mike with strong muscles!
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Even Jared was: Heei...
Does that confirm what one poster said that Ellie is envious on other women with handsome husbands?
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