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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby marshmallowfluf » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:23 pm

Why do you think im not in the lgbt community? You have no idea who i am personally. Just because i dont think its HORRIBLE for someone to have their own beliefs?


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby IceCreamCone » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:11 pm

marshmallowfluf wrote:Why do you think im not in the lgbt community? You have no idea who i am personally. Just because i dont think its HORRIBLE for someone to have their own beliefs?


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby WheresMyCoffee » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:18 pm

marshmallowfluf wrote:Why do you think im not in the lgbt community? You have no idea who i am personally. Just because i dont think its HORRIBLE for someone to have their own beliefs?


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It isnt horrible to have your own beliefs. Of course not. The reason the Chik-Fil-A controversyy happened is because the CEO gives large amounts of money to anti-LGBT orgs, you can believe two men should not be married and still not be "anti-LGBT" If you dont think two men should marry and you're a man dont fucking marry another man., End of story.
If you are anti-LGBT you think that somebody else should not have equal rights and sorry but that makes you disgusting.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby WheresMyCoffee » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:26 pm

marshmallowfluf wrote:Im not religious myself, but i think everyone is allowed to have an opinion without being called a homophobe. The CEO of chickfila has no say in whether or not gays can get married so why do people care so much? I know more people (in my town anyway, im sure utah is much different) were just standing up for freedom of religion and not because they "hate gays"


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It isnt becaus they just make a few rude comments about LGBT, Chik-Fil-A donates over one million dollars a year to a Christian fellowship that makes all its members follow a strict guideline that includes prohibiting "homosexual acts". In the last ten years or so they have given over 5 million dollars to known HATE groups and groups that perform "anti-gay" therapy on teens. Th founder of Chik Fil A also admitted he would fire an employee if he found out said employee was gay... need I say more? Does that sound like "having an opinion without being called a homophobe"? The CEO doesnt have any say in gay rights you are correct about that but they sure make it their mission to try and have a say.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:40 pm

^^^And that "gay conversion therapy" can include electroshock therapy. And believe me, that DOES hurt people.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby WheresMyCoffee » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:42 pm

lmmomSD wrote:^^^And that "gay conversion therapy" can include electroshock therapy. And believe me, that DOES hurt people.

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It hurts people physically and mentally. Can you imagine being 15 and questioning your sexuality and the two people in the world who are supposed to love you th most send you away to gay conversion therapy....
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:09 pm

WheresMyCoffee wrote:
lmmomSD wrote:^^^And that "gay conversion therapy" can include electroshock therapy. And believe me, that DOES hurt people.

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It hurts people physically and mentally. Can you imagine being 15 and questioning your sexuality and the two people in the world who are supposed to love you th most send you away to gay conversion therapy....


Nope, can't imagine. It must be awful. I'm lucky to have a wonderful, loving family. Won't go into all the details, my parents were part of the "Greatest Generation", and still were awesome that way. We had openly gay friends of the family when I was growing up.
My nephews are gay, and at our first family reunion after the first one came out, he was very worried about his reception. Nobody said or did anything that might be even the least bit hurtful. I just wish everyone could have that kind of family.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby ughpleasee » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 pm

Lol since when is freedom of religion supporting a homophobic company? They have the right to be Mormons, and they have the right to say whatever they please. However, that doesn't make them any less homophobic. Is not right to wish harm to others, which Chick-Fill-A does.

After that horrendous video I've decided to unsubscribe from Ellie and Jared, since I'm sure share the same principles as these homophobes.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Kjr123 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:35 pm

WheresMyCoffee wrote:
marshmallowfluf wrote:Why do you think im not in the lgbt community? You have no idea who i am personally. Just because i dont think its HORRIBLE for someone to have their own beliefs?


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It isnt horrible to have your own beliefs. Of course not. The reason the Chik-Fil-A controversyy happened is because the CEO gives large amounts of money to anti-LGBT orgs, you can believe two men should not be married and still not be "anti-LGBT" If you dont think two men should marry and you're a man dont fucking marry another man., End of story.
If you are anti-LGBT you think that somebody else should not have equal rights and sorry but that makes you disgusting.


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby formerctfxcer » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:56 pm

There's a difference between freedom of religion and openly supporting not wanting equal rights for everyone. I'm not going to pretend I don't go to Chick-fil-A, and honestly I don't care that the CEO is anti-gay. He's old and super religious, I would be shocked if he was pro! I'm also not shocked that Ruby and her family is against gay marriage. But to post a video basically bragging about how many people, including her and her family, are there to support being anti-gay shows a lot about her character. And deleting it shows that she's too much of a coward to even own her actions.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby navarjul000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:37 pm

rdt1004 wrote:
crew96 wrote:Can you upload the video to Dropbox or another cloud-type website so we can view?


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I was just about to ask this. I still havent gotten a chance to watch it.


I second this notion!
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Vincere » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:41 pm

navarjul000 wrote:
rdt1004 wrote:
crew96 wrote:Can you upload the video to Dropbox or another cloud-type website so we can view?


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I was just about to ask this. I still havent gotten a chance to watch it.


I second this notion!


Somebody posted it to YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JccXG4cGfLY
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby navarjul000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:46 pm

skyblueandblack wrote:I think a poster here reposted it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JccXG4cGfLY


Ignore the post j just made about someone posting the video. I read further into the thread and found this!
But OMG, that is the mall in my hometown. I have gone shopping there COUNTLESS times, in fact, I got my cartilage pierced at that very mall 10 days ago when I was visiting my parents for the break. I'm not surprised, I mean half of the families in my very neighborhood participated in something like that a while back, but my goodness how little respect I have left for that family. Good lord.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby navarjul000 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:57 pm

I second this notion![/quote]

Somebody posted it to YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JccXG4cGfLY[/quote]

I noticed shorty after posting that haha! My bad!
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby just_me » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:10 pm

I'm a supporter of the LGBTQ community and Chick-FIl-A disgusts me. Why someone cares who someone else marries or loves is beyond me. They built one in my town a while ago and I get overly nauseous every time I pass by it. And it's not just the CEO that supports anti-gay organizations, it's EVERYONE who eats there. The company spends part of their profits (aka the money customers paid for their food) and donate to anti-gay organizations. When someone eats there, there are indirectly donating to anti-gay organizations.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby actuallydear » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:15 am

i had a look at the comments on that vid and wow. i've never been to america so never eaten at chick-fil-a... but let's just say the fact that they are anti-gay reached the headlines here in australia, so there's no way to spin that video as not knowing what they were doing. you hear ruby at the beginning state "we're here to support marriage between man and woman" which cannot mean they were there to support gay marriage IN ANY WAY. lolz @ people thinking it's fake. yep, because that's not ruby's voice, or kevin and the kids in the video. so dumb.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Vincere » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:29 pm

On their Instagram https://www.instagram.com/8passengers/ in the last 2 pictures there are people discussing the video.
A lot of the kids say that they just went to eat their not support their campaign... Yea right.

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Hello, 8Passengers, I have just seen a video you have made years passed, you probably don't even remember it. You and you're family were standing in a line in support of chick fil a contributing to an anti gay company. Coming from a long time fan of not only you but your siblings channels, I am shocked. I am shocked by your complete ignorance to have hate towards love, the one thing in this world that can possibly heal the world. I am completely aware that you are Mormon, and that is completely fine(even though most people from where I live see it as a cult). But contributing to publicly be in support of homophobia is discouraging and disgusting. As from now, I am unsubscribing from your channel, but who cares I'm only one person, but hopefully more of your followers will become aware of your homophobia and ignorance..
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:35 pm

Vincere wrote:On their Instagram https://www.instagram.com/8passengers/ in the last 2 pictures there are people discussing the video.
A lot of the kids say that they just went to eat their not support their campaign... Yea right.


So not true. If they just went there to eat, why would she have been filming the line, and talking giddily about how happy everyone was, and that people were donating money and saying "we support you"?
Completely oblivious and brainwashed.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Vincere » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:39 pm

lmmomSD wrote:
Vincere wrote:On their Instagram https://www.instagram.com/8passengers/ in the last 2 pictures there are people discussing the video.
A lot of the kids say that they just went to eat their not support their campaign... Yea right.


So not true. If they just went there to eat, why would she have been filming the line, and talking giddily about how happy everyone was, and that people were donating money and saying "we support you"?
Completely oblivious and brainwashed.

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I know. She specifically said why they are there in the first 10 seconds, but they are kids.
Some comment on the YT that the video is fake.

The funniest was someone was saying "respect their opinions" but Ruby and Kevin don't know how to respect others.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:03 pm

Plus, I would respect their opinions more (even if it's a disgusting opinion) if they had the courage of their convictions. But no, they took the video down as soon as it became obvious that it was being discussed. Chicken.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby madi_b_123 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:50 pm

The whole freedom of religion debate irks me to no end. I am a Christian (also a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights) but I live in America where there is freedom of religion. This means that I can't impose my beliefs on others. There is supposed to be a distinct separation between the church and the state. People who say they don't want same sex marriage to be legal because of freedom of religion don't understand what freedom of religion actually means. They are pushing their religious beliefs on same sex couples trying to get married (not allowing these couples their own choice of religion).


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby tratra58 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:18 pm

lmmomSD wrote:Plus, I would respect their opinions more (even if it's a disgusting opinion) if they had the courage of their convictions. But no, they took the video down as soon as it became obvious that it was being discussed. Chicken.

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They don't want to jeopardize their YouTube income. It is sad to see this prejudice. Thankfully, we now have laws to protect same sex couples.


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby PopTheButterfly » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:21 pm

madi_b_123 wrote:The whole freedom of religion debate irks me to no end. I am a Christian (also a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights) but I live in America where there is freedom of religion. This means that I can't impose my beliefs on others. There is supposed to be a distinct separation between the church and the state. People who say they don't want same sex marriage to be legal because of freedom of religion don't understand what freedom of religion actually means. They are pushing their religious beliefs on same sex couples trying to get married (not allowing these couples their own choice of religion).


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But yet they will be the first people to stand up and say their rights have been encroached upon and call fowl. I have separated from churches because of the narrow mindedness of this fact and now don't call myself Christian because I think a lot of churches and Christians have completely lost touch with reality in a sense. The Holy Book says to treat others with love and kindness and to do unto others as you would want them to do unto you. I worked at McDonald's and had a ton of people come through the drive thru and completely treat me like I am lower than them and that I have personally wronged them for things as petty as an item going up in price or because I was working on a Sunday. A lot of Christians want to preach hate to other groups who don't believe the samr exact things they do. There were wars between other Christian churches in my hometown because they wanted to argue about things that shouldn't matter in the end. A lot of churches I went to didn't really participate in community events or have outreach programs either. Instead they focused on fund raising for their own benefits and needs rather than those of others. That video of Ruby and her family made me so mad for so many reasons, but the biggest of them all was because gay marriage and gay rights will not matter in the long run. It will not personally effect them one bit and it shouldn't be something fought over. The fighting over this is akin to being upset and angry that someone is putting tuna on their Subway sandwich because you don't like tuna. It's dumb and it just shows how unloving and uncaring their religion is.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:14 pm

madi_b_123 wrote:The whole freedom of religion debate irks me to no end. I am a Christian (also a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights) but I live in America where there is freedom of religion. This means that I can't impose my beliefs on others. There is supposed to be a distinct separation between the church and the state. People who say they don't want same sex marriage to be legal because of freedom of religion don't understand what freedom of religion actually means. They are pushing their religious beliefs on same sex couples trying to get married (not allowing these couples their own choice of religion).


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I had just this discussion with my daughter today! I had read an article in the Washington Post about the town that Mayberry RFD and the Andy Griffith show were based on. And people there were saying they wanted to go back to "old fashioned values". I was saying, how about _really_ old fashioned? Like the founding fathers? Separation of church and state? All are created equal, and freedom to practice whatever religion or none at all? You wanna be Christian? You go. Do you. But don't tell anyone else what they should be. And that whole "save marriage" thing irks me too. I got divorced because my husband was a jerk. Not because my gay nephew wants the right to be married. And what kind of Christian is so hateful anyway? Jesus hung out with the "sinners". He said we were supposed to love each other. And maybe the Old Testament says homosexuality is wrong, but it also says you can't eat shellfish, drive on the Sabbath, wear clothes woven from two kinds of cloth, or eat a cheeseburger (milk and meat together) The Old Testament is full of contradictions, and laws that nobody but the extremely Orthodox follow.
Sorry. I just get really worked up about this.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby PopTheButterfly » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:29 pm

lmmomSD wrote:
madi_b_123 wrote:The whole freedom of religion debate irks me to no end. I am a Christian (also a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights) but I live in America where there is freedom of religion. This means that I can't impose my beliefs on others. There is supposed to be a distinct separation between the church and the state. People who say they don't want same sex marriage to be legal because of freedom of religion don't understand what freedom of religion actually means. They are pushing their religious beliefs on same sex couples trying to get married (not allowing these couples their own choice of religion).


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I had just this discussion with my daughter today! I had read an article in the Washington Post about the town that Mayberry RFD and the Andy Griffith show were based on. And people there were saying they wanted to go back to "old fashioned values". I was saying, how about _really_ old fashioned? Like the founding fathers? Separation of church and state? All are created equal, and freedom to practice whatever religion or none at all? You wanna be Christian? You go. Do you. But don't tell anyone else what they should be. And that whole "save marriage" thing irks me too. I got divorced because my husband was a jerk. Not because my gay nephew wants the right to be married. And what kind of Christian is so hateful anyway? Jesus hung out with the "sinners". He said we were supposed to love each other. And maybe the Old Testament says homosexuality is wrong, but it also says you can't eat shellfish, drive on the Sabbath, wear clothes woven from two kinds of cloth, or eat a cheeseburger (milk and meat together) The Old Testament is full of contradictions, and laws that nobody but the extremely Orthodox follow.
Sorry. I just get really worked up about this.

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The Bible says in the passage regarding Sodom and Gomorrah that people are prohibited from "lying with mankind as with womankind". Whether that means gay sex or means something different no one knows. Also, there are a ton of phrases in the Bible that people conveniently forget about like no violence even in the act of self defense, no public piety (bragging about how Christian you are and what Christian things you do for people), not becoming wealthy, being apolitical if you want to be Christ-like, being minimalistic, being humble, and lastly not being judgemental. I really get annoyed when people decide they want to be all Holier Than Thou towards me or my family and friends, but yet refuse to follow all the laws in the Bible. It's like they cherry pick which ones they want to adhere to and which ones they don't.

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