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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby madi_b_123 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:48 pm

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madi_b_123 wrote:The whole freedom of religion debate irks me to no end. I am a Christian (also a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights) but I live in America where there is freedom of religion. This means that I can't impose my beliefs on others. There is supposed to be a distinct separation between the church and the state. People who say they don't want same sex marriage to be legal because of freedom of religion don't understand what freedom of religion actually means. They are pushing their religious beliefs on same sex couples trying to get married (not allowing these couples their own choice of religion).


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I had just this discussion with my daughter today! I had read an article in the Washington Post about the town that Mayberry RFD and the Andy Griffith show were based on. And people there were saying they wanted to go back to "old fashioned values". I was saying, how about _really_ old fashioned? Like the founding fathers? Separation of church and state? All are created equal, and freedom to practice whatever religion or none at all? You wanna be Christian? You go. Do you. But don't tell anyone else what they should be. And that whole "save marriage" thing irks me too. I got divorced because my husband was a jerk. Not because my gay nephew wants the right to be married. And what kind of Christian is so hateful anyway? Jesus hung out with the "sinners". He said we were supposed to love each other. And maybe the Old Testament says homosexuality is wrong, but it also says you can't eat shellfish, drive on the Sabbath, wear clothes woven from two kinds of cloth, or eat a cheeseburger (milk and meat together) The Old Testament is full of contradictions, and laws that nobody but the extremely Orthodox follow.
Sorry. I just get really worked up about this.

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The Bible says in the passage regarding Sodom and Gomorrah that people are prohibited from "lying with mankind as with womankind". Whether that means gay sex or means something different no one knows. Also, there are a ton of phrases in the Bible that people conveniently forget about like no violence even in the act of self defense, no public piety (bragging about how Christian you are and what Christian things you do for people), not becoming wealthy, being apolitical if you want to be Christ-like, being minimalistic, being humble, and lastly not being judgemental. I really get annoyed when people decide they want to be all Holier Than Thou towards me or my family and friends, but yet refuse to follow all the laws in the Bible. It's like they cherry pick which ones they want to adhere to and which ones they don't.

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Exactly! Besides Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus and he never once mentioned homosexuality and emphasized the importance of loving and not judging others. As a pretty progressive Christian myself, I am often disappointed when I see how many others (who claim to be Christian) react to certain situations


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Vincere » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:07 am

I can't find all the comments about the video on her instagram anymore.
I think she deleted them but at least it means she read them.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby actuallydear » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:08 am

it has a few views, i wonder where they're all coming from. i would lol if it came up in sidebar suggestions for their videos on their channel.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Cgl33 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:56 am

The video disgusts me. They are ignorant and homophobic. It's disgusting that they were celebrating hate. And they involve their children, which is so messed up. Yes kids, let's get a chicken sandwich and celebrate our belief that gay people deserve to be treated differently than straight people. Waffle fries and homophobia for everyone!

I guess they don't realize that they are not preventing people from being gay. They are only making it socially unacceptable. I can't imagine how many gay people live as straight in Mormon communities. It's so sad.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby lmmomSD » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:07 pm

Cgl33 wrote:The video disgusts me. They are ignorant and homophobic. It's disgusting that they were celebrating hate. And they involve their children, which is so messed up. Yes kids, let's get a chicken sandwich and celebrate our belief that gay people deserve to be treated differently than straight people. Waffle fries and homophobia for everyone!

I guess they don't realize that they are not preventing people from being gay. They are only making it socially unacceptable. I can't imagine how many gay people live as straight in Mormon communities. It's so sad.


And with the size of their extended family, it's statistically probable that someone in their family is gay. How sad is that?

For irony, as I write this, my daughter is in the living room singing along with a Christian rock CD that her homophobic (BIG Prop 8 supporter) dad gave her. But she loves her gay cousins and gets really angry about homophobia. One of her big frustrations in life is that she can't make her "Christian" dad see the incongruous nature of his behavior.

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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:07 am

This video makes me dislike every Griffiths sibling. They most likely all share the same views. Maybe Julie is a little different since she is educated and moved away.


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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby Scar2016 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:54 am

Didn't know where else to put this.
People have been talking on Bonnie's thread about her blanking training her kids. Voila! Today's vlog she decides to go on a little rant about it. She compared it to crate training a dog, and then tried to back track.
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Re: Proof They Read Here

Postby HelloSweetie » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:19 am

Scar2016 wrote:Didn't know where else to put this.
People have been talking on Bonnie's thread about her blanking training her kids. Voila! Today's vlog she decides to go on a little rant about it. She compared it to crate training a dog, and then tried to back track.


Blanket training didn't come up until late last night so I'm pretty sure that's just a coincidence. A cry it out discussion was going on long before that (and included her name), so if she was going to defend or throw shade at anything I would think it would be that.
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