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Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:37 pm

nutbagmcgee wrote:To y'all complaining that they have never taken the kids skiing before have to realize they have JUST in the past year came into a decent amount of money. They never lived extravagantly, they still don't really.


Skiing with kids was affordable on Joel's old salary and part time Bonnie's YouTubing income.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby lmmomSD » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:43 pm

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tratra58 wrote:I agree get a safer car or truck.

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I don't think you'd like that either. An old truck it would be unsafe, a new truck would be excessive spending. Something a few years old would be a bad buy because it should really have a warranty. Seriously, as others have said, if you think Joel is so bad, then watch Daily Bumps. You'll lose your mind at their laziness and spending.

Not everyone has a newer vehicle. Old doesn't mean unsafe. They need the proper child restraints.

I agree Bonnie and Joel are becoming a lot more like the larger Youtube and that is disappointing, but I really feel like the nitpicking on this board makes certain people look a bit crazy. I now notice these same people trying to "turn the tide" on the Cullen and Katie board. You don't have to like all vloggers, but it doesn't need to be a HATE EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME scenario. Clearing a sidewalk, parking lot, driveway, etc, for someone else is a nice thing to do. I'm not sure why we would hate someone for it.

And you can't argue that Joel doesn't jog because we don't see it everyday, but then throw out that Jared volunteers at his church. We've never seen that. We have at least seen Joel jog before.

I do hate that Joel is no longer working, and that he's now a kept man so to speak. I thought he was better than that and had more drive and ambition. That said, I believe he's a good human being with a good heart, and don't think he's half as lazy or pathetic as people are making him out to be. Are we grading vloggers on potential? So because Joel could have been more we are supposed to expect him to volunteer all of his time, but since Jared only worked at Verizon and isn't handy it's ok for him to stay home and nap everyday? I haven't seen any of this same criticism pointed in his direction, and he can't even help his dad... he calls lazytuber Joel.


I wondered if I wasn't the only one seeing that on the C&K board. I just ignore it. I think Joel cleared the whole parking lot, why lie about it. He was just showing the "fun" parts though. Man, I wish my husband was as "lazy" as Joel. Geez people our rough on him!

Maybe you're not talking about me, but I feel like I am one of few people that doesn't adore everything Cullen and Katie do. If you're not talking about me, whatever, but I just have to say that I in particular am not trying to "turn the tide". I see things that bug me about Bonnie and Joel, and I come here to discuss them. Same with C&K. If you don't agree with things that bug me, fine. It's just my opinion. I'm not trying to make everyone agree with me. Usually my opinions get shot down on that thread, because they get credit for being great parents. But that's ok too. I'm just mentioning my opinion.
I wanted to reiterate that I don't have a problem with Joel driving an older car. If it runs well, and he likes it, great. It's the lack of child seats in the car that I object to. My family is of the school of thought that you buy a next to new car (so you don't have the depreciation of new) and drive it until it dies. So I totally get Joel doing that. But all four kids in that car is pretty unsafe. Olivia is still too young to be up front in California, and he doesn't have boosters for all the boys.

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby workfromhomemom » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:01 pm

Maybe you're not talking about me, but I feel like I am one of few people that doesn't adore everything Cullen and Katie do. If you're not talking about me, whatever, but I just have to say that I in particular am not trying to "turn the tide". I see things that bug me about Bonnie and Joel, and I come here to discuss them. Same with C&K. If you don't agree with things that bug me, fine. It's just my opinion. I'm not trying to make everyone agree with me. Usually my opinions get shot down on that thread, because they get credit for being great parents. But that's ok too. I'm just mentioning my opinion.
I wanted to reiterate that I don't have a problem with Joel driving an older car. If it runs well, and he likes it, great. It's the lack of child seats in the car that I object to. My family is of the school of thought that you buy a next to new car (so you don't have the depreciation of new) and drive it until it dies. So I totally get Joel doing that. But all four kids in that car is pretty unsafe. Olivia is still too young to be up front in California, and he doesn't have boosters for all the boys.

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I didn't mean you at all in the C&K thread. I think you might be talking to the other poster though.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby lmmomSD » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:08 pm

^^ Cool. I have been called out before for being "too nitpicky". So I was just explaining my point of view. No worries! I guess as usual, not everything is about me! [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:28 pm

I guess I'm one of the ones too nitpicky on c&k thread? All I did was complain about Ada's talons and Gaines not wearing socks at the trampoline park. Also in the past brooks not being buckled into his swing and bouncer.

I will admit I no longer like Bonnie the way I used to. She has changed too much and I hate some of the things she does to her kids. On here though some people defend her on every single thing she does. I think they are on the wrong website. This website is for gossip. If you want to worship someone go comment on their videos on YouTube or tweet them. C&k and Bonnie get away with stuff that the lumps and e+j get raked over the coals for on this group.


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Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby HelloSweetie » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:10 pm

MommaLindsey2 wrote:I guess I'm one of the ones too nitpicky on c&k thread? All I did was complain about Ada's talons and Gaines not wearing socks at the trampoline park. Also in the past brooks not being buckled into his swing and bouncer.

I will admit I no longer like Bonnie the way I used to. She has changed too much and I hate some of the things she does to her kids. On here though some people defend her on every single thing she does. I think they are on the wrong website. This website is for gossip. If you want to worship someone go comment on their videos on YouTube or tweet them. C&k and Bonnie get away with stuff that the lumps and e+j get raked over the coals for on this group.


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No one is on the wrong website. Just because some people (clearly you're talking about me) defend things, that doesn't mean it's Bonnie worship. We all live different lives and some might find different things reasonable. I'm explaining the position a lot of the time, not defending Bonnie. Like the skiing. It's asinine to imply B&J have somehow neglected their children because they haven't been skiing yet. I live where there's tons of snow and a ski hill 15 minutes away. I have a 9 year old that has never skied. Why? It's not a family activity everyone can do together, so for us it isn't worth the $200 it would cost to go. That's not a defense of Bonnie, but the overall implications that you are somehow a neglectful parent for not taking your kids skiing. I think that is a hate driven opinion that defies logic.

I can't stand DB, but I probably play Devil's Advocate on that board too more than anyone else.

Without diverse opinions and subjectivity it really is all just hate all the time. I agree with the previous poster.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby lmmomSD » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:31 pm

Exactly. And yeah, we all know you like Bonnie, but you don't defend her blindly. You were just as weirded out by her double dipping her fondue fork and some of the other questionable stuff she's done recently. You may say where you think she's coming from, but you're far from a minion.
Anyway, we're way off topic. Can't we all just respect each other's opinions?

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby IceCreamCone » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:48 pm

MommaLindsey2 wrote:
People come here to gossip not bow down and worship vloggers. C&k are not perfect and Bonnie is definitely not perfect.

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This is a gossip site, but no one ever said it was a hate site. Gossip mags are usually trashy, but that doesn't mean they don't at least try to get the story right sometimes. I just think when you start to hold people up to impossible standards, everyone here starts to look crazy. Volunteering is a good thing to do. It doesn't' matter if it's 5, 10, or 40 hours. Its at least a nice thought and service and I don't think its fair to dismiss it as just nothing.

In response to your earlier post. Lmmom, I actually wasn't even thinking about you. You've been very vocal about your dislike of Cullen for awhile now. You own when you're nitpicking. So many others do not, and I wonder how well they would do when held up to their own high standards?

**Because I feel like I need a disclaimer: Only a lukewarm Bonnie or K&C viewer. Not a worshiper.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby WhatSheSaid » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:00 am

PostyMcPosterston wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:
lmmomSD wrote:He _needs_ a better car. Or at least one with car seats for all the kids. Every time he takes all the kids out in that old beater, I hold my breath. I don't care if he drives himself around in it. But those kids need to be in appropriate car seats.
Maybe now that Bonnie's the main breadwinner, he feels like it's "her" money.

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I agree they need to put proper seats in it. For the amount he uses that car though, I think it would be a waste to go out and buy a new one. I like that he doesn't care that it's old.


If he doesn't care that it's old, why does he want a new truck? Or is that something separate from that old car?

To whomever mentioned wondering if Bonnie was mean off camera... I think she is. She has said so herself several times. She's talked about being "the mean aunt" and even though I think that the kids all do like Aunt Bonnie (or Aunt Mama), I think she's still stern, which maybe the others are not with the others nieces and nephews. She's also talked about being mean to Joel.

When people tell you they're a certain way, and it's not a "positive" thing, believe them. I say "positive" because I think being a little "mean" is a good thing.

I think Ellie is more malicious, but fairly good at convincing herself it's because of XYZ (acne or anxiety).


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It's true. Bonnie does have anger issues. Remember the hole in the kitchen cupboard made by her foot? She has said she has a bad temper, I believe her. I don't think any less of her because of it though. I give her credit for being truthful. Ellie, howere, is malicious and duplicitous which is unforgivable imo.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:11 am

Who cares if post may be nick picking or there are different opinions. It is a voluntary board and one person's opinion is no better than another's opinion and diversity makes it more interesting. I have changed my mind after seeing a different messages and I think the messages have been respectful. Respectful is what I've seen since opinions are debated and not the poster.

That being said, I was too nick picky with Joel clearing the church parking lot and I am now more aware I did this. Guilty as charged.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby bffb3 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:44 am

So she's mentioned several times that she has herpes and then she asks her baby boy to kiss her on the mouth. WTF?!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Scar2016 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:50 am

tratra58 wrote:

Bonnie contributes to this perception with her saying he isn't getting a truck.[/quote]
His whole body language leakage in that little scene was very telling, imo.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby RootBeerFloatie » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:58 am

I'm sure I'm who you're talking about because I'm often critical of Bonnie and I dislike Cullen and Katie. People are welcome to post all kinds of opinions here, but this is not a fan site and I personally don't post here to kiss ass. If I like something in a vlog, I leave a comment about it on said vlog.

My general philosophy is not to post a comment without contributing to the discussionon some way, ie. don't just repeat others without adding in my own thoughts. That's why I post critical comments on those two threads more often than I might for DB or EJ--they have bigger threads and other people say all that needs to be said.

I don't dislike Bonnie the way I do CK, but a lot of people here thought she was the best vlogger and I just never really bought into that. I've been a huge fan in a thread full of huge fans so I guess that stands out.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Scar2016 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:15 am

tratra58 wrote:You know what I would expect from Joel or any father is to tell his wife enough with exploiting our kids with risky thumbnails and filming and I've said this...which leads me to think he likes his less ambitious life at home. I don't know of anyone who has filmed their kids like Bonnie has this past couple of weeks. They all use their kids as income, but Bonnie has taken it further.

One vlogging family that comes close are the Saccone Jolys. The father, Jonathan Saccone Joly, just made a video talking about how Social Services have become involved with his family due to his video content.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby OnEDGE » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:25 am

In today's vlog did anyone understand what Bonnie said about something in the comments? I played it three times and still
couldn't. It was at the end when she was combing hair. Bonnie looks bigger than Joel, he has a small body build. Paci in her mouth.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby RootBeerFloatie » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:28 am

OnEDGE wrote:In today's vlog did anyone understand what Bonnie said about something in the comments? I played it three times and still
couldn't. It was at the end when she was combing hair. Bonnie looks bigger than Joel, he has a small body build. Paci in her mouth.


"Well when the comment section brings it to your attention every day"

Not sure what she's talking about though, I guess her chin?
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:34 am

The thing is lately, it hasn't been difficult to find fault with Bonnie. Even her comments on YouTube comment section, who are her fans, said some negative remarks on her kissing her son with an outbreak of herpes simples. The Griffiths all have HSV-1 for a reason.

The snide remark about "well you know, when the comment sections brings it to your attention everyday" leads me to believe she must delete more comments than I thought since there are very few of them on her YouTube comment section. I had to laugh at her little shaking of her head as she said the snide remark thinking is this mom for real and the comments gets under her skin which is comical since she has ALL the power to show herself as a good wife/mother through editing. The fact she can't seem to filter or edit better makes me think there is something off with her. Add to this Joel is editing and he doesn't see it either. You can't fix stupid.

Oh, it is wonderful Joel was helping out in church, I love how Bonnie can keep a house clean (she has a very nice home) and it was nice to see them vlog outside the house.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby chipmunks » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:17 am

In today's comments someone asks if Joel is now self employed and Bonnie responded with "we are working on it "


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Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:49 am

The title says it all. Bonnie is disgusting. Active cold sore and she is putting Lincoln's binkie in her mouth. She always has to watch herself do stuff like this in the viewfinder. She knows exactly what she is doing. [img]http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170104/6add9ca18aa7399500340008b1539476.jpg[/img]

Edit: and she freaking kisses him? These poor kids are doomed to a lifetime of cold sores just like their mom. I think she wants it that way.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby whatashitshow » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:01 am

OnEDGE wrote:In today's vlog did anyone understand what Bonnie said about something in the comments? I played it three times and still
couldn't. It was at the end when she was combing hair. Bonnie looks bigger than Joel, he has a small body build. Paci in her mouth.


I believe they are all on the "small" side. My Mom actually had an interview a few months ago that Landon (Julie's husband) was giving. My Mom is 5'8" and she told me Landon is a very small/petite man and a few inches shorter than her. She said she never would have guessed it was him based on the video I had shown her. So I went back and compared because it always seemed like Landon was tall and he is maybe an inch or so taller than everyone else. So I think Joel and Jared are fairly short for men, same with Landon. I do think Bonnie may be a bit taller than Joel but not much. It's so weird how the camera makes you picture them but in real life it's totally different.

PS: My Mom did not take the job but I was totally hoping she would so I could try to get some inside scoop HAHA! When she showed me the email from "Landon Deru" I about died. Small world!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby PostyMcPosterston » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:17 am

What do you think Bonnie's thoughts were when she was choosing thumbnail and title today?

"Let's make everyone think we are chopping off Olivia's hair! And title it obscure to seem like we are making a big change, because we did errands and tried to make Lincoln kiss us. I can't title it, "RUNNING errands and spreading HERPES"


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:18 am

HashtagBlessed wrote:Initially, I really enjoyed Bonnie's videos. I didn't agree with her on everything, but I found her relatable and level-headed. She seemed like she had a good sense of humor, didn't take herself too seriously, she could handle criticism, etc. I was surprised because it was like night and day compared her to her sister, the big YouTube star. Bonnie really seemed to talk to the camera the way you would talk to a friend, and it made her videos fun to watch. She seemed to have a good relationship with her family too, and they were very relatable because Joel still worked for a living.

Then, she started including compromising footage of her children, even after she had reached a wide audience. Naked in the tub, touching themselves, etc. Then she started using distasteful titles that I found embarrassing and exploitative of her children. By the time YouTube was their sole source of income, I found her just as exploitative as all the other YouTube stage parents who put their kids out there every day for a paycheck. A part of me still likes her on a personal level, but she has so obviously crossed the line of good taste.



I do hope she read comments even here since your first paragraph is what I saw too. I still hold out hope she will get back to her sweet stay at home mom whose house I respected being so clean and I still think Joel could focus more on his cooking talents (smoking meatloaf) and she could do a lot with how she stays so organized. These are talents.

My other wish is they would stop adoring E+J which is not a positive.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:19 am

HashtagBlessed wrote:Initially, I really enjoyed Bonnie's videos. I didn't agree with her on everything, but I found her relatable and level-headed. She seemed like she had a good sense of humor, didn't take herself too seriously, she could handle criticism, etc. I was surprised because it was like night and day compared her to her sister, the big YouTube star. Bonnie really seemed to talk to the camera the way you would talk to a friend, and it made her videos fun to watch. She seemed to have a good relationship with her family too, and they were very relatable because Joel still worked for a living.

Then, she started including compromising footage of her children, even after she had reached a wide audience. Naked in the tub, touching themselves, etc. Then she started using distasteful titles that I found embarrassing and exploitative of her children. By the time YouTube was their sole source of income, I found her just as exploitative as all the other YouTube stage parents who put their kids out there every day for a paycheck. A part of me still likes her on a personal level, but she has so obviously crossed the line of good taste.



I do hope she read comments even here since your first paragraph is what I saw too. I still hold out hope she will get back to her sweet stay at home mom whose house I respected being so clean and I still think Joel could focus more on his cooking talents (smoking meatloaf) and she could do a lot with how she stays so organized. These are talents.

My other wish is they would stop adoring E+J which is not a positive.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:21 am

whatashitshow wrote:
OnEDGE wrote:In today's vlog did anyone understand what Bonnie said about something in the comments? I played it three times and still
couldn't. It was at the end when she was combing hair. Bonnie looks bigger than Joel, he has a small body build. Paci in her mouth.


I believe they are all on the "small" side. My Mom actually had an interview a few months ago that Landon (Julie's husband) was giving. My Mom is 5'8" and she told me Landon is a very small/petite man and a few inches shorter than her. She said she never would have guessed it was him based on the video I had shown her. So I went back and compared because it always seemed like Landon was tall and he is maybe an inch or so taller than everyone else. So I think Joel and Jared are fairly short for men, same with Landon. I do think Bonnie may be a bit taller than Joel but not much. It's so weird how the camera makes you picture them but in real life it's totally different.

PS: My Mom did not take the job but I was totally hoping she would so I could try to get some inside scoop HAHA! When she showed me the email from "Landon Deru" I about died. Small world!


Bonnie said Joel is 5ft 6in, but I sure thought Landon was taller than all of the other guys except Bonnie's dad. LOL darn, an inside scoop would be nice :)
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