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Bonnie and Joel: Pack-Cacking it | Part 13

Bonnie and Joel: Pack-Cacking it | Part 13

Postby littlebaby » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:19 am

On the tree decorating topic, my parents almost made me decorate the tree because they hated how tedious it was (and also decorated the rest of the house lol). It was fun when I was <10 years old, but after that I dreaded it. All our ornaments are super old and ~sentimental~ though, so that’s cute. There’s a bunch of stuff I made in elementary school, a baby’s first Christmas ornament from the year I was born, etc. I’ll “inherit” them all and will probably keep most of them.

Edit: Forgot to actually tie it to B&J’s family, lol. It doesn’t seem like the kids have a burning desire to decorate the tree and I don’t think they’ll feel like they missed out. They do plenty as a family, especially during the holidays. I would have rather had a family/Christmas like that than the ones I grew up with tbh.


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Postby Namm » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:31 am

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hey girl hey007 wrote:I'm super late and I'm sorry if this has been talked about. I don't watch Bonnie anymore and usually ignore her Instastories but she posted a picture of Cody and said "I would marry Cody if I could #handsome" and it made my skin crawl. I get it, parents think their children are handsome and cute whatever no big deal. The way Bonnies family is freaks me out though! I can't get past the weird things they do any say about the kids looks. It just comes off so creepy and weird to me. Is it a Mormon thing? Do other people do that?

I feel like she's only like this towards Cody, which makes it a tad bit weirder. Like its always him that she says she would "marry" and not Boston or Lincoln. I know she doesn't mean harm by it but I have to admit I do find it strange.


I think that it's because Cody is calm, seems "more" mature than his brothers and has always been even at their age, he listens. Which is why Bonnie can visualize him as someones husband one day. Boston is amazing and a fave but still a baby and little bratty and that might be the reason Bonnies doesn't picture him yet, as someones husband. I don't think it's deeper than that.
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Postby natalka81 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:46 am

Does anyone know if Bonnie or Joel said anywhere if they're doing the Elf on the Shelf vlogs again this year? I would assume that they'd bring in a little extra $$$ for them, but maybe it isn't worth the time?
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Postby HelloSweetie » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:53 am

natalka81 wrote:Does anyone know if Bonnie or Joel said anywhere if they're doing the Elf on the Shelf vlogs again this year? I would assume that they'd bring in a little extra $$$ for them, but maybe it isn't worth the time?


They didn't start doing it for the vlogs, but for the kids, so I imagine they will be doing it again. The vlogs are so far behind (so hate it). I think the Psych Movie was on the 30th, so the elf should appear tomorrow.
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Postby amandaz » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm

I think the vlogs are only a few days behind now. Wasn’t the Thanksgiving vlog posted the Monday after? And if the Psych Movie was on the 30th (last Thursday), then they are 3 days behind right now. Better than the whole week


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Postby HelloSweetie » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:49 pm

amandaz wrote:I think the vlogs are only a few days behind now. Wasn’t the Thanksgiving vlog posted the Monday after? And if the Psych Movie was on the 30th (last Thursday), then they are 3 days behind right now. Better than the whole week


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True. Better, but still annoying. I wouldn't notice it as much if I didn't follow Ellie and Jared on social media though.
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Postby FakingIt_MakingIt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:32 pm

Bonnie just shared on instagram that her channel has been demonetized. No specifics. She's not with a network though right? So it'll be completely up to her to sort it out with YouTube, right?
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Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:35 pm

FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:Bonnie just shared on instagram that her channel has been demonetized. No specifics. She's not with a network though right? So it'll be completely up to her to sort it out with YouTube, right?


I think so. She should be able to sort it out though. A network would have helped, but the amount she would have paid them over the years is likely far more than the amount she'll be out in the meantime.

Bad time of year to have this happen though. And yet, more questionable channels like DB and E&Js channels are just fine
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Postby whatashitshow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:46 pm

It is interesting/ironic to me how just yesterday's video they talked about when they were unemployed. And now she posted their channel has been demonetized. I am sure it is just a glitch as I can't think of why their entire channel would be demonetized. But I hope this goes to show them and all the other Youtubers how quickly this income can just vanish!
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Postby actuallydear » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:46 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:Bonnie just shared on instagram that her channel has been demonetized. No specifics. She's not with a network though right? So it'll be completely up to her to sort it out with YouTube, right?


I think so. She should be able to sort it out though. A network would have helped, but the amount she would have paid them over the years is likely far more than the amount she'll be out in the meantime.

Bad time of year to have this happen though. And yet, more questionable channels like DB and E&Js channels are just fine

There have been so many PG channels demonetised entirely. I follow a gaming channel and the creator of that has been having troubles for like a month now. All of her videos are making no money. YouTube has not responded at all.

I’d imagine this is a very scary time for creators, whether they are FT YTers or not.

The website needs to sort their shit out before everyone walks away and then who are they going to make money off?
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Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:49 pm

After seeing immature Twitter rants from E&J lately, I really appreciate the professional tone she took in her post even though we know it has to be a serious concern for her. It will be interesting to see if Ruby's channel is affected.[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171206/df491d48beebb85236fc1f96b39375ad.jpg[/img]
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Postby FakingIt_MakingIt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:29 pm

whatashitshow wrote:It is interesting/ironic to me how just yesterday's video they talked about when they were unemployed. And now she posted their channel has been demonetized. I am sure it is just a glitch as I can't think of why their entire channel would be demonetized. But I hope this goes to show them and all the other Youtubers how quickly this income can just vanish!



That's what I was thinking. Even though her channel shouldn't be demonetized its hopefully a wake up call to her, and her siblings, how quickly this can all go away.
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Postby calliepaige84 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:30 pm

Yikes, these channels are being taken down and/or demonetized daily! Scary!


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Postby amyfalafal » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:08 pm

The difference here is we see Bonnie and Joel vlog about "we know this isnt forever" and we dont see them buy lavish things every week. They've done well to save and renovate the house, save and buy Joel his dream car, and controversially (I'm the minority thinking its cool they did this together with the kids) go on vacation as a family to Hawaii and a few places before being demonetized. It sucks and there are more channels like Ellie and Ruby's who should be monitored for the inappropriate content like Jared's butt rubbing or showing his kids on the toilet. Bonnie's tone was professional, of course anyone posting about losing their income would be devastated and she was mature about it.

AND how about "this is all for us for our memories, we dont care if its monetized"-attitude: do we think they'll continue uploading if they're demonetised? I should post this in the E&J thread because it's directed towards them as they are in denial that youtube will ever demonetize their channel.
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Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:15 pm

calliepaige84 wrote:Yikes, these channels are being taken down and/or demonetized daily! Scary!


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Yeah, but if Funnel Vision got their monetization back, Bonnie has nothing to worry about. I am glad YouTube is taking action. Parents have been warned about the dangers and kept posting titillating videos. Jared is one of the worst. Bonnie should be fine.

What does their timing have to do with the Psych movie? It's not premiering on TV until tomorrow. Did they go see it somewhere else? I missed that.

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Postby RootBeerFloatie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:20 pm

Thankfully these two will be alright because they aren't taking youtube for granted, and her post was very professional and respectful. While I do think that her channel is more appropriate than not most of the time, I wonder if youtube is going to make the decision to demonitized content targeted at or starring children entirely. I wouldn't blame them for taking that action given the recent things that have come to light and the questionable ethics of family vlogging overall.

Let this be a lesson to all youtube creators: You are not obligated to or entitled to a paycheck from YouTube. The money can and possibly will dry up at any moment at the flip of a switch. YouTube can tell Bonnie that she's out of luck, and that's that. It's no one's fault but your own for relying on an income with no guarantees.
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Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:08 pm

RootBeerFloatie wrote:Thankfully these two will be alright because they aren't taking youtube for granted, and her post was very professional and respectful. While I do think that her channel is more appropriate than not most of the time, I wonder if youtube is going to make the decision to demonitized content targeted at or starring children entirely. I wouldn't blame them for taking that action given the recent things that have come to light and the questionable ethics of family vlogging overall.

Let this be a lesson to all youtube creators: You are not obligated to or entitled to a paycheck from YouTube. The money can and possibly will dry up at any moment at the flip of a switch. YouTube can tell Bonnie that she's out of luck, and that's that. It's no one's fault but your own for relying on an income with no guarantees.


Yep. And a children's book or cookbook isn't going to sell as well if you no longer have a YT channel to shill it on. That isn't a backup plan Jared!
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Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:11 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
RootBeerFloatie wrote:Thankfully these two will be alright because they aren't taking youtube for granted, and her post was very professional and respectful. While I do think that her channel is more appropriate than not most of the time, I wonder if youtube is going to make the decision to demonitized content targeted at or starring children entirely. I wouldn't blame them for taking that action given the recent things that have come to light and the questionable ethics of family vlogging overall.

Let this be a lesson to all youtube creators: You are not obligated to or entitled to a paycheck from YouTube. The money can and possibly will dry up at any moment at the flip of a switch. YouTube can tell Bonnie that she's out of luck, and that's that. It's no one's fault but your own for relying on an income with no guarantees.


Yep. And a children's book or cookbook isn't going to sell as well if you no longer have a YT channel to shill it on. That isn't a backup plan Jared!
Oh, and they are advertising their Christmas merch now! Who's going to buy your merch if you don't have a channel, Jared? Hmmmmm? I would loooove to see Ellie and her "we would have this lifestyle with or without YouTube" attitude taken down a peg or two. And her "We did nothing wrong" comment about Jared rubbing Lincoln's bare bottom on his face-- she will go to her grave thinking she's perfect and that any action YouTube takes against them is just "unfair".

I am pleased that Bonnie (at least publicly) responded the way she did. Not sure what her dragon lady manicure has to do with the topic (weird picture to post with that caption). I don't know. It just seems weird. "My channel is demonetized. Let me go get loooong nails done". It would seem like she would want to focus on the _really_ important things, like her family... Maybe I am nitpicking. That wasn't a cheap manicure. It's incongruous. I do wonder what she said when she first found out! But what she did actually post was very classy, especially when compared to the whining from Funnel Vision and Bratayley.

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Postby Sarai » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:15 pm

Her channel doesn’t deserve to be demonetized, but it’s clear Youtube is changing when it comes to paying people. I think it was a bad idea for Joel to quit his work and not do anything. He could have used this time to go to school or learn a trade. Instead he stayed home with Bonnie, and what happens if she can’t get her channel monetized again or only makes a quarter of what she used to?
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Postby nutbagmcgee » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:23 pm

I’m thinking that she had her nails done, came home and found this out. Posted about her nails because they are pretty and slid in the You Tube explanation at the end.
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Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:53 pm

Sarai wrote:Her channel doesn’t deserve to be demonetized, but it’s clear Youtube is changing when it comes to paying people. I think it was a bad idea for Joel to quit his work and not do anything. He could have used this time to go to school or learn a trade. Instead he stayed home with Bonnie, and what happens if she can’t get her channel monetized again or only makes a quarter of what she used to?


He already has a trade. He completed school around the time he got the P&G job.
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Postby Lillyy8657 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:00 pm

Ugh i just don't understand how Bonnie's channel could be demonetized and not Ellie and Jared/Rubys channels. We all know Bonnie doesn't exploit her children on the vlogs the way Ellie and Jared or Ruby do:( and there's so many other channels i've seen that are way way worse like those prank channels where the parents pretend to be dead or pretend they killed their kid etc. and they havent been demonetized..
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Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:02 pm

Lillyy8657 wrote:Ugh i just don't understand how Bonnie's channel could be demonetized and not Ellie and Jared/Rubys channels. We all know Bonnie doesn't exploit her children on the vlogs the way Ellie and Jared or Ruby do and there's so many other channels i've seen that are way way worse like those prank channels where the parents pretend to be dead or pretend they killed their kid etc. and they havent been demonetized..


Maybe Google is more interested in LOOKING like they are trying to solve the problem, than they actually are in solving it?

Bonnie's channel isn't even one of the ones going after the kid's app audience. I wonder if the fact that she typically has smaller sponsors instead of large Adsense ones has anything to do with her being targeted over E&J?
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Postby Lillyy8657 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Also I would have been happy if Ellie and Jareds channel could have been demonetized even just temporarily just so i could watch all the recent vlogs without any ads playig lol
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Postby lmmomSD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:41 pm

I'm just hoping they'll be getting around to E&J and Ruby. I just don't see how Bonnie can be under investigation and E&J, who posted the "Too Many Kids In The Tub" vlog, posted the kids actually on the toilet, and that awful butt rubbing vlog. I think YouTube will be getting to them... And I will enjoy that shit show. Getting popcorn ready!

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