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fossilfinger wrote:They only mentioned the Women's March on today's video to try to be relevant. It is clear they have no idea what they're talking about. They said they were going to "keep an eye on" the protest. What does that even mean?!? It's women marching and holding signs. Nothing bad is going to happen to them just by being in the same city.
Yeah, that was complete BS. They never leave the house, so why would they go to all the way downtown for anything?? Also, he was worried protesters would come to his neighborhood??? :lol: :lol: :lol: Does he not know he lives about 4 miles from downtown Portland and in a residential neighborhood?? He's kind of dumb....

Anyway, I found it interesting they didn't go to LA for the DB party. When is Kelsey's baby shower? Are they going to Hawaii with DB??
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ewokfan11 wrote:
fossilfinger wrote:They only mentioned the Women's March on today's video to try to be relevant. It is clear they have no idea what they're talking about. They said they were going to "keep an eye on" the protest. What does that even mean?!? It's women marching and holding signs. Nothing bad is going to happen to them just by being in the same city.
Yeah, that was complete BS. They never leave the house, so why would they go to all the way downtown for anything?? Also, he was worried protesters would come to his neighborhood??? :lol: :lol: :lol: Does he not know he lives about 4 miles from downtown Portland and in a residential neighborhood?? He's kind of dumb....

Anyway, I found it interesting they didn't go to LA for the DB party. When is Kelsey's baby shower? Are they going to Hawaii with DB??
And I haven't see anything about the women's march turning violent? I'm in DC so I don't know about the "sister marches" but I haven't heard about any dangerous police encounters or anything like that. My Facebook feed is filled with people just marching and holding signs. He was probably talking about a general protest in Portland about the election. Incredibly obvious they are co-opted something that's newsworthy to bring clicks, and insinuating that they're in some sort of danger when they don't even live in downtown Portland, and those who do probably aren't either.
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Looks like they did go to the PDX Women's March today. At least it'll be more interesting than their sitting-on-the-couch-all-day vlogs.
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LOOOOOL! They Ubered downtown, stood in a parking garage and WATCHED the march. They might have walked a block at most to get footage! I guess they just wanted to get the YT views (and the controversial comments), but they definitely didn't actually participate in the march. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
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CallieT wrote:Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
Which law has changed since Obama left office? None.... Then what are the women protesting about? If there is nothing to protest, what's there to talk about? If Corbin and Kelsey make it big in Youtube (They could have without Youtube, they just choose not to work), Juniper will live in a white, middle class. What is there a white man can do that Juniper can't?

Corbin and Kelsey only use the last two videos to try to attract more libreal women to their channel. They titled the video as such to appear in Youtube searches. They can't even live their minimalist and sustainable belief, let alone political. They gained some viewers after their election videos and trying to do it again. Other Youtube moms are just too smart to alienate their current subscribers.
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melonyogloo wrote:
CallieT wrote:Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
Which law has changed since Obama left office? None.... Then what are the women protesting about? If there is nothing to protest, what's there to talk about? If Corbin and Kelsey make it big in Youtube (They could have without Youtube, they just choose not to work), Juniper will live in a white, middle class. What is there a white man can do that Juniper can't?
Not every woman in the U.S. is privileged. For example, women who are transgender and women of color. Also, just because the law calls for equality doesn't mean it's practiced. Women are treated inferior to men all the time. Women who claimed they are raped are often not believed. Lawmakers are trying to strip women of their right to decide what happens to their own bodies all the time. There are so many issues still. The march is for solidarity. It's not only because of the new administration, but because of the systematic inequality that has been happening in this country since its inception.
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melonyogloo wrote:
CallieT wrote:Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
Which law has changed since Obama left office? None.... Then what are the women protesting about? If there is nothing to protest, what's there to talk about? If Corbin and Kelsey make it big in Youtube (They could have without Youtube, they just choose not to work), Juniper will live in a white, middle class. What is there a white man can do that Juniper can't?

Corbin and Kelsey only use the last two videos to try to attract more libreal women to their channel. They titled the video as such to appear in Youtube searches. They can't even live their minimalist and sustainable belief, let alone political. They gained some viewers after their election videos and trying to do it again. Other Youtube moms are just too smart to alienate their current subscribers.
Obama left office two days ago. Nothing has had any _time_ to happen.

Don't want to get into a political argument here, so that's all I'll say.

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fossilfinger wrote: Not every woman in the U.S. is privileged. For example, women who are transgender and women of color. Also, just because the law calls for equality doesn't mean it's practiced. Women are treated inferior to men all the time. Women who claimed they are raped are often not believed. Lawmakers are trying to strip women of their right to decide what happens to their own bodies all the time. There are so many issues still. The march is for solidarity. It's not only because of the new administration, but because of the systematic inequality that has been happening in this country since its inception.
No law will make everyone in the US happy. The government did its job to legislate laws protect most people but, in the end, it is its citizens/residences that are commiting hate crimes, mistreating minorities, and etc. There are laws against robbey, people do it anyway, same idea. There are women gold digger who claimed they were raped but weren't. There are pro-life and pro-choice women groups protesting for their own interests, which one should the government listen to? If it is not against the new administration, why didn't they march last Thursday?
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fossilfinger wrote:
melonyogloo wrote:
CallieT wrote:Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
Which law has changed since Obama left office? None.... Then what are the women protesting about? If there is nothing to protest, what's there to talk about? If Corbin and Kelsey make it big in Youtube (They could have without Youtube, they just choose not to work), Juniper will live in a white, middle class. What is there a white man can do that Juniper can't?
Not every woman in the U.S. is privileged. For example, women who are transgender and women of color. Also, just because the law calls for equality doesn't mean it's practiced. Women are treated inferior to men all the time. Women who claimed they are raped are often not believed. Lawmakers are trying to strip women of their right to decide what happens to their own bodies all the time. There are so many issues still. The march is for solidarity. It's not only because of the new administration, but because of the systematic inequality that has been happening in this country since its inception.
Thank you for posting this. Although women in America definitely have it better than other places in the world there's still a lot of work to be done. Even more so for women who also fall into other minority groups.

I thought I had so many rights and then had a personal experience where I saw directly how our government both local and federal have created laws that jeopardized my own bodily autonomy. There is so much legislation around the woman's uterus it is ridiculous, and I'm not solely speaking about abortion. I've gone and testified at Congress and I've listened to the bills that get brought up. You'd think we were living during the Salem Witch Trials with some of the ridiculous legislation is proposed.


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Not to change the subject, but does anyone else think Missy is hosting Kelsey's baby shower in Hawaii?? DBs are already there and it seems other mommy YTers are going there soon too. That would be a very extravagant baby shower, but Missy seems to bathe Kelsey and Corbin in $$$, presents and parties.
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fossilfinger wrote:
melonyogloo wrote:
CallieT wrote:Even if they just went for views, I still respect them and Jess from Jesssfam more than all these other YouTuber moms living their privileged lives and not talking about it at all.
Which law has changed since Obama left office? None.... Then what are the women protesting about? If there is nothing to protest, what's there to talk about? If Corbin and Kelsey make it big in Youtube (They could have without Youtube, they just choose not to work), Juniper will live in a white, middle class. What is there a white man can do that Juniper can't?
Not every woman in the U.S. is privileged. For example, women who are transgender and women of color. Also, just because the law calls for equality doesn't mean it's practiced. Women are treated inferior to men all the time. Women who claimed they are raped are often not believed. Lawmakers are trying to strip women of their right to decide what happens to their own bodies all the time. There are so many issues still. The march is for solidarity. It's not only because of the new administration, but because of the systematic inequality that has been happening in this country since its inception.
Yes thank you! I agree completely. And even if Kelsey and future Juniper are pretty priveleged (although I'd argue even in America all women are slightly disadvantaged in some ways even if they aren't minorities, for example wage inequality), going to the Woman's March was also about showing support for those who are more seriously impacted.

Also, to those who say that 'nothing has changed, no new laws, why are you protesting?', you're missing the point. A lot of the point of these marches was to show that IF the new Trump administration tries to harm women's rights, there are thousands of men and women who are going to stand up for them.

Even if you do disagree with what Kelsey and Corbin are saying, I think it's nice that they're expressing some political views....in my opinion it's great that they're not terrified of losing subscribers and willing to say what they believe in. And there actually are many comments saying that people have unsubscribed because they think Trump is the greatest... hopefully K&C are just like hey good riddance!
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Well, it was all just for views. I mean, Corbin didn't even actually vote!! Yes, he pretended he voted, but online it says his voter registration is "inactive." So he lied back in November. Kelsey, on the other hand, did vote.

They are becoming pros at doing ANYTHING for views!
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And the thing is, that pro life women were welcome at the March. They tried to be as inclusive as possible.
People are trying to make it about one issue, and it's not.
Anyway, Corbin and Kelsey at least mentioned it and went to (I assume) express support, when all their best friends did was show a couple of shots of protesters in their "walking around LA" montage, like "look at the freaky people on the streets in LA". They showed it, but didn't mention it. And if they're against it, that's fine. But showing it as a freak show and not mentioning it is really disrespectful. Especially when their life is SO easy, and they have so much. I'll bet if YouTube goes away, they will be just fine with using WIC, and food stamps, and getting healthcare at PP.

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Could Corbin be working for Bryan and Missy?? I know BDs employ those other family friends, so maybe Corbin is also on their payroll?? Maybe he helps edit vlogs??

After I saw that E+J are raking in $51000 a MONTH, I started to think DBs must be helping out their family and friends too - because they probably make 3X that! :-o :-o :-o (I can't even imagine!)
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ewokfan11 wrote:Could Corbin be working for Bryan and Missy?? I know BDs employ those other family friends, so maybe Corbin is also on their payroll?? Maybe he helps edit vlogs??

After I saw that E+J are raking in $51000 a MONTH, I started to think DBs must be helping out their family and friends too - because they probably make 3X that! :-o :-o :-o (I can't even imagine!)
Or he deletes comments for them? lol

If you take half of the high estimate for Missy and Bryan's main channel, that's around $250k a month. If they have any sense at all they're putting a good chunk of that into savings for when the kids are older and interest in their channel drys up. But that's still more money than most people know what to do with. It makes sense that Bryan is spending a fortune buying himself a pretend music career. Throwing Kelsey and Corbin a $1,000 during their trip is a drop in the bucket. I agree with the person who said that the Lannings are probably still sending them money every month to support them. Maybe they created a fake job for Corbin to make them feel better about it. But for two able bodied adults with college degrees and a baby on the way, neither seems particularly motivated to earn a living.

It's more acceptable to me for Ellie and Jared to give money to their parents every month. These are the people who raised you and took care of you for 18+ years. It makes sense to give back to them if you strike it rich, however precariously. But to financially support another family so they can sit around doing nothing all day will never sit right with me. If they really wanted to gift them with something, a college trust for their child makes more sense to me than giving them a paycheck every month for doing nothing.
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^ Hm, interesting that you mention B&M could have created a job for Corbin. It is possible he's doing editing or social media managing for them, which is "real" work, although probably not that difficult. He could then be on their payroll without it looking like they're just giving him money.
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ewokfan11 wrote:Not to change the subject, but does anyone else think Missy is hosting Kelsey's baby shower in Hawaii?? DBs are already there and it seems other mommy YTers are going there soon too. That would be a very extravagant baby shower, but Missy seems to bathe Kelsey and Corbin in $$$, presents and parties.
No, i don't think that at all, it make zero sense. How would K&C get all the gifts home? How would their guests get there? How would missy get all her projects, decorations. gifts ect there? People keep saying this and i think it's the silliest thing i have ever heard. B&M will probably be back in CA by the weekend, they will come home and the house will be all decorated and they will have the shower then, just like with the Xmas party that was "magically" ready for them when they got home from London..
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I just saw the video from Sunday with the Women's March, and it definitely felt like they cared more about getting footage of the march from the garage than actually marching.

Why am I not surprised that Kelsey didn't see the value in the newborn care class and doesn't want to take a breastfeeding class? A lot of the time you get out of a class what you put in, and if you're not asking questions, well, that's a missed opportunity. What else does she have to do all day that these experiences aren't worth her time?
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Especially because breastfeeding isn't always easy. You can have problems, and they make a new mom feel awful. Your hormones are already all over the place, and you're sure you're doing everything wrong (at least I was!) And then if breastfeeding doesn't go like clockwork, it makes you feel even worse! Missy, the breastfeeding Queen of Idaho, probably told her she didn't need to take it.

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