C&K: Same Story, Different Day. Part #16

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I don’t feel sorry for them either. They’ve made these decisions. I’m not sure either of them has actually been diagnosed with depression, but they certainly have the time and the money to seek professional help. But instead one of them makes a woe is me vlog and the other denies anything is really wrong, all while making passive aggressive comments and jabs at each other.

Can’t afford your house? That sucks, poor choice, sell it while you can.
Can’t make YouTube work? Go get a 9-5. A break from the house and each other would do both of them good.
Can’t cope with your dads death? See a professional.
Marriage needs help? Again, see a professional.

There is lots they could be doing to fix their situation, but much like everything else in their life they have no real desire or motivation to put the work into bettering the problem. They have all the time in the world, and a seemingly endless supply of babysitters, there is NO reason they both can’t get help and get out of the funk they’re in. They’re just too lazy.

[Bethypooh51]

If you ever watched the NiveNulls, Cullen and Katie’s vlogs remind me of when their marriage was falling apart because of his infidelity. I noticed a change long before they moved into the BIG HOUSE. Katie hasn’t been happy for a long time and I bet that Cullen is dealing with pornography or substance abuse. I do think Cullen has an issue with Alcohol, I don’t know that it is more then that but perscription drugs and opioids are pretty cheap to come by as well. But I would say Katie is dealing with PPD and Cullen dealing with the lose of his Dad and the added responsibility of the big house and car has turned to other women or drugs to deal with it. Either way it is sad and I don’t wish bad things on anyone. I hope that they take a nice long break from YouTube and get the help they need.


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[freshbalsam]

I don't know if they're really depressed. But they need to _do_ something about it and not just yanmer about it.

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That’s my biggest issue of it all. I haven’t watched the video yet, but read all thread. What is the point in talking about getting the help you need/want and then never following through? They’ve been having these issues for what seems quite some time, at least a year+. GO TO COUNSELING. I’ve haven’t been in a position to need to seek therapy, but if I was, I figure I would a) ask my family if they knew of a marriage counselor or b) look up therapists in my area and make an appointment. Talking about your marital problems and possible depression + ppd isn’t going to solve your problems. Yeah it might feel good momentarily to vent to a camera about it, but go seek some professional help, that’s what it’s there for.

[askeptichere]

I don't know if they're really depressed. But they need to _do_ something about it and not just yanmer about it.

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That’s my biggest issue of it all. I haven’t watched the video yet, but read all thread. What is the point in talking about getting the help you need/want and then never following through? They’ve been having these issues for what seems quite some time, at least a year+. GO TO COUNSELING. I’ve haven’t been in a position to need to seek therapy, but if I was, I figure I would a) ask my family if they knew of a marriage counselor or b) look up therapists in my area and make an appointment. Talking about your marital problems and possible depression + ppd isn’t going to solve your problems. Yeah it might feel good momentarily to vent to a camera about it, but go seek some professional help, that’s what it’s there for.

And Katie is a psychologist for fuck’s sake!! Maybe it’s for the best that she isn’t practicing any longer.


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[Caisflame]

I used to love c&k, watched them since before MG was born. But over the past 6 months they haven't appealed to me. And since Cullen's sister has been back in the picture, I've stopped watching altogether. What an obnoxious human.
My question for those of you who still watch...do you think we'll see a bandaid baby, or do you think we'll see a divorce at some point? Or nothing at all? I ask because I'm pretty oblivious to how things have been going for them but there is a huge change in the vibe I get from the vlogs now.

[HopeBush]

I’ve seen a few people mention substance abuse/alcohol and I was just wondering why you think that? I haven’t watched as religiously as I used to so I’m a little behind.


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[ewokfan11]

I’ve seen a few people mention substance abuse/alcohol and I was just wondering why you think that? I haven’t watched as religiously as I used to so I’m a little behind.

He's been openly drinking a lot more than he used to - especially when he's around Jay or his sister. He was even openly drinking (cup in hand) and driving the golf cart in Tuscaloosa.

Maybe he doesn't have a big problem, but I don't think having his sister around again is a good influence - she seems to drink daily. Maybe Britney being "back" has also been stressful. Since the whole prison thing is a secret maybe it's hard on him to hide her past. I think he feels responsible for her now that their dad has passed away.

[auntasaurus19]

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It definitely didn’t go over well with Katie that Cullen got so much sympathy from so many viewers for speaking about depression. She is sure quick to call out that their marriage is struggling for a “number of reasons” and they are BOTH dealing with depression.

I’m beginning to think Cullen may have really screwed up...


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[freshbalsam]

I used to love c&k, watched them since before MG was born. But over the past 6 months they haven't appealed to me. And since Cullen's sister has been back in the picture, I've stopped watching altogether. What an obnoxious human.
My question for those of you who still watch...do you think we'll see a bandaid baby, or do you think we'll see a divorce at some point? Or nothing at all? I ask because I'm pretty oblivious to how things have been going for them but there is a huge change in the vibe I get from the vlogs now.

I think they’re dumb in many aspects, but I don’t think Katie would be that ignorant/foolish to have a bandaid baby. I would hope that they can work out their problems before it leads to separation or divorce. However, I do think that nothing is going to change in the next 6 months to a year and they’re just going to pretend things are fine for the most part and every once and a while out out a vlog that things are hard.


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[freshbalsam]

I used to love c&k, watched them since before MG was born. But over the past 6 months they haven't appealed to me. And since Cullen's sister has been back in the picture, I've stopped watching altogether. What an obnoxious human.
My question for those of you who still watch...do you think we'll see a bandaid baby, or do you think we'll see a divorce at some point? Or nothing at all? I ask because I'm pretty oblivious to how things have been going for them but there is a huge change in the vibe I get from the vlogs now.

I think they’re dumb in many aspects, but I don’t think Katie would be that ignorant/foolish to have a bandaid baby. I would hope that they can work out their problems before it leads to separation or divorce. However, I do think that nothing is going to change in the next 6 months to a year and they’re just going to pretend things are fine for the most part and every once and a while out out a vlog that things are hard.


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[Seriously]

I don’t feel sorry for them either. They’ve made these decisions. I’m not sure either of them has actually been diagnosed with depression, but they certainly have the time and the money to seek professional help. But instead one of them makes a woe is me vlog and the other denies anything is really wrong, all while making passive aggressive comments and jabs at each other.

Can’t afford your house? That sucks, poor choice, sell it while you can.
Can’t make YouTube work? Go get a 9-5. A break from the house and each other would do both of them good.
Can’t cope with your dads death? See a professional.
Marriage needs help? Again, see a professional.

There is lots they could be doing to fix their situation, but much like everything else in their life they have no real desire or motivation to put the work into bettering the problem. They have all the time in the world, and a seemingly endless supply of babysitters, there is NO reason they both can’t get help and get out of the funk they’re in. They’re just too lazy.

Couldn't of said it better myself. 100% agree

[nutbagmcgee]

There was one thing that Cullen said that made the think infidelity, I need to go back and watch again and see what it was.

[nutbagmcgee]

There was one thing that Cullen said that made the think infidelity, I need to go back and watch again and see what it was.

[Lovethesnark]

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It definitely didn’t go over well with Katie that Cullen got so much sympathy from so many viewers for speaking about depression. She is sure quick to call out that their marriage is struggling for a “number of reasons” and they are BOTH dealing with depression.

I’m beginning to think Cullen may have really screwed up...


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I agree. It certainly seems like she doesn’t want him getting all the sympathy. I really think one of them is having an affair. My guess is that it’s Cullen, but I wouldn’t rule Katie out. During the video where Cullen was drinking at the game and Katie was taking Brooks to urgent care, he meets with a couple of viewers. He was giving off creeper vibes. It was clear that he loved the attention. In the video when they go to the fake church marriage counseling, Cullen is emotional and Katie is trying to pretend everything is fine. It made me wonder if she’s done something to ruin their perfect image. I really don’t believe the stress of the move and a new car are the problem. They could make money if they needed more money.

[Playsinrain]

I have a couple of things rolling around in my head... either Katie is embarrassed that Cullen was so open and raw on camera (don't be katie, if you read here.. is that is the case you are just perpetuating stereotypes that with your training, you should know is nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed of) or Cullen is really in some hot water with her and him saying oh im just depressed is pissing her off bc she knows thats not the ONLY thing digging at him. Maybe she's just embarrassed that her marriage issues are being played out for the world to see. I mean first world vlogger problems, but i would rather them be at least a little transparent about what is going on. Even without them saying a word, long time viewers KNEW something was up. I feel like Katie would rather keep these things to themselves, while Cullen is trying to be more open about things. I get both sides of that, but i can also understand how that could cause even more bickering in the house.

Honestly, i feel like Cullen has screwed up somehow, be it drinking too much, some sort of other substance abuse, infidelity (one thing that keeps coming back to me is the hair cut fiasco when Katie thought he butchered his hair. She threw up that he had been gone for over 3 hours. I'm not saying that means he cheated on her, but it raises eyebrows. A simple man's cut does not take 3 hours. Maybe he ran other errands or stopped for drinks on the way home.. (not something i would think would be ok either..) or something while he was out, but either way Katie was not expecting him to be gone that long and Cullen looked like a deer in headlights when she brought it up.) or just being checked out for way too long.. Cullen seems remorseful, Katie seems stoic. BUT... then again, Cullen is an emotional man. He wears his emotions on his sleeve and maybe Katie is just better at hiding her feelings than Cullen is.

Whatever is going on i hope they get help, i hope they both get seen about their depression and i hope they get some real counseling and can work though this.

[Playsinrain]

It definitely didn’t go over well with Katie that Cullen got so much sympathy from so many viewers for speaking about depression. She is sure quick to call out that their marriage is struggling for a “number of reasons” and they are BOTH dealing with depression.

I’m beginning to think Cullen may have really screwed up...


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I agree. It certainly seems like she doesn’t want him getting all the sympathy. I really think one of them is having an affair. My guess is that it’s Cullen, but I wouldn’t rule Katie out. During the video where Cullen was drinking at the game and Katie was taking Brooks to urgent care, he meets with a couple of viewers. He was giving off creeper vibes. It was clear that he loved the attention. In the video when they go to the fake church marriage counseling, Cullen is emotional and Katie is trying to pretend everything is fine. It made me wonder if she’s done something to ruin their perfect image. I really don’t believe the stress of the move and a new car are the problem. They could make money if they needed more money.

the only thing that keeps me from thinking that Katie might be the one stepping out in the relationship is time.. I mean cheaters gonna cheat, but she rarely has a moment free to herself to shower, how is she gonna find time to go knocking boots with someone else? Yes stranger things have happened and there is always a way to be sneaky, but that is one reason i can't see her being the guilty party to that.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I could see Katie having an online affair...Cullen too for that matter.

[HelloSweetie]

Katie doesn’t seem stoic to me, she seems sanctimonious. Like the problem is all something Cullen needs to fix and not her. Maybe HE’s been telling her he isn’t happy for awhile now, and she’s just so settled into her perfect new and showy life she didn’t want to hear it?

Her post about also having depression really hit a nerve for me. There is nothing that can make you feel more dismissed or unheard by your partner than to tell them how you feel and have them basically compete with you. If Jared made a video revealing he was depressed, and Ellie said “I’m depressed too!” the eye rolls would be substantial.


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[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I think Katie puts a lot of pressure on Cullen. She wants a certain lifestyle, a lifestyle that Cullen cant afford without getting lucky on youtube. Katie has been very vocal about not returning to work, I think Katie was the driving force behind the house purchase as well.
I don't in any way think Cullen is perfect, I think he has some serious issues going on and likely some substance abuse/addiction but I also think he might feel like he can never do enough, provide enough, be good enough for Katie and if theyre fighting about money issues Im sure she drives that point home quite regularly.

[Playsinrain]

I’ve seen a few people mention substance abuse/alcohol and I was just wondering why you think that? I haven’t watched as religiously as I used to so I’m a little behind.

He's been openly drinking a lot more than he used to - especially when he's around Jay or his sister. He was even openly drinking (cup in hand) and driving the golf cart in Tuscaloosa.

Maybe he doesn't have a big problem, but I don't think having his sister around again is a good influence - she seems to drink daily. Maybe Britney being "back" has also been stressful. Since the whole prison thing is a secret maybe it's hard on him to hide her past. I think he feels responsible for her now that their dad has passed away.

I thought about the whole feeling responsible for Britney thing too. Even though they are grown adults, i feel like there could be some stress in being "the man of the family" now. He has sisters and grandberry that he is "responsible" for now. I can see how Britney being back home could put a lot of stress on him. Unneeded, at least partially (i mean she's a grown woman with a fiance, let her handle herself) but i can see how he might blame himslef if something happens and Britney backslides.

Unrelated, but where do Annie and her kids live? I'm not being a creeper and want addresses or anything lol, i just wonder if she lives out of town/state since we really only see her on holidays and large family events. If she's local, i wonder why she keeps her distance? She comes off as a little standoffish, and i don't know if it's just bc of cameras or if there is some sort of resentment there between her and the rest of the family. I don't ever see her being very warm towards Berry even...