Bonnie Hoellein: Plastic Polyester Princess | Part 16
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They can roll down their windows and "smell the fresh air and feel the cool air" WITHOUT undoing their seatbelts! JFC. Even a ticket won't stop them. A tragedy is the only thing that is going to make them wake up. What if a rock flew up from under the tire and hit one of the boys in the face while they were "smelling the fresh air". And it's not like they live in Mexico City where pollution is awful either. When my dad was little, a friend of his got decapitated from sticking her head out the window. Horrible story, and he made sure I sat down and wore my seatbelt, or the car didn't start.
And that "we want our boys to be boys". What does that even mean? Guess if one of them is trans, there's no hope for acceptance.
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There’s lots of Mormon people and articles I’ve read that liken their children leaving the religion is a feeling more worse than just having their kid die. I can imagine if any of their kids were gay, they’d probably feel like that child was “dead” to them too. A trans child no doubt would be disowned. And this obviously isn’t every Mormon either because there are a lot of slightly more liberal leaning progressive Mormons, but Bonnie and Joel don’t give me the impression that they’re like that.lmmomSD wrote:They can roll down their windows and "smell the fresh air and feel the cool air" WITHOUT undoing their seatbelts! JFC. Even a ticket won't stop them. A tragedy is the only thing that is going to make them wake up. What if a rock flew up from under the tire and hit one of the boys in the face while they were "smelling the fresh air". And it's not like they live in Mexico City where pollution is awful either. When my dad was little, a friend of his got decapitated from sticking her head out the window. Horrible story, and he made sure I sat down and wore my seatbelt, or the car didn't start.
And that "we want our boys to be boys". What does that even mean? Guess if one of them is trans, there's no hope for acceptance.
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Darn, she has an ad on today’s vlog now....
Her blatant child endangerment is out of control. Hey kids, let’s play with matches!!!
Her blatant child endangerment is out of control. Hey kids, let’s play with matches!!!
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There is such a thing as teaching a child how to use things early on — like knives, matches, etc. Forest Schools often teach them. My main issue with most of these bloggers aren’t necessarily what they do with their children — it’s how they show it. There are rarely any disclaimers or warnings to the children they know they are watching.
Yes, she definitely has an idyllic picture of times past and how kids are raised. My dad was raised that way, but it wasn’t all sunshine and roses. He also watched a friend of his burn alive when he played with gasoline and matches. At appropriate times and appropriate ages we learned how to use those tools. It was always with a warning and an urgency to respect them as tools, not playthings. Not something to experiment with.
I’m all for a carefree, wild, pure childhood. But you can’t just ignore the risks and blind your kids to them as well.
Seatbelts, everyone!
Yes, she definitely has an idyllic picture of times past and how kids are raised. My dad was raised that way, but it wasn’t all sunshine and roses. He also watched a friend of his burn alive when he played with gasoline and matches. At appropriate times and appropriate ages we learned how to use those tools. It was always with a warning and an urgency to respect them as tools, not playthings. Not something to experiment with.
I’m all for a carefree, wild, pure childhood. But you can’t just ignore the risks and blind your kids to them as well.
Seatbelts, everyone!
Re: Bonnie Hoellein: Plastic Polyester Princess | Part 16
Cody has a side to him, like when he was playing with the matches he had the look of a pyromaniac. I do not trust those boys to not play with matches when unsupervised. The seatbelts made me angry but I think the throwing the large pieces of driftwood into the rapids with no more than two metal ropes for protection if they tumbled over, sent ME over the proverbial edge. There would of been no miracle, no saving them if they had fell into those and it would of been so easy as short as those boys were. And we see Joel walk up later so it would of been Bonnie to "save" them.
There is helicopeter parenting and there is common sense and there is law breaking. There is only one of those that Bonnie and Joel excercised today.
Also Bonnie being there was really really odd. She is not an outdoorsy person by her own admittance. So was she just there to put the boys in dangerous situations and film it to piss us off? More than likely.
There is helicopeter parenting and there is common sense and there is law breaking. There is only one of those that Bonnie and Joel excercised today.
Also Bonnie being there was really really odd. She is not an outdoorsy person by her own admittance. So was she just there to put the boys in dangerous situations and film it to piss us off? More than likely.
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Even in Boy Scouts you have to be over 10 or 11 to earn a Firem’n Chit award. Those kids are toooo young to be lighting matches. Really, really irresponsible.
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My friends and I had an accident with matches when we were eleven or twelve. We found some in the kitchen at church and started to play around with them because we thought we were cool and grown. My friend held onto one too long and it burnt the tip of her finger, and she panicked and dropped it into a trash can. We dumped water into the can immediately after and everything was fine, but all it took was an eleven year old not paying enough attention to start a small trash can fire.
Now, with that being said, think of what a five year old might do unsupervised with matches. If Boston or Cody dropped a match on something flammable I don't think they'd have the mental or physical capability to put it out.
Now, with that being said, think of what a five year old might do unsupervised with matches. If Boston or Cody dropped a match on something flammable I don't think they'd have the mental or physical capability to put it out.
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Plus, if it ended up being a grease fore of some kind, water wouldn't work. They don't know that. Joel probably does, but not the kids.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellein: Plastic Polyester Princess | Part 16
My grandparents neighbour when I was growing up was driving with his arm out of the window down a country road and a truck side swiped his car and it ripped his arm off at the shoulder. I don’t allow my kids to have their arms out the window when I’m driving and I sure as hell wouldn’t let them have their heads out the window.lmmomSD wrote:They can roll down their windows and "smell the fresh air and feel the cool air" WITHOUT undoing their seatbelts! JFC. Even a ticket won't stop them. A tragedy is the only thing that is going to make them wake up. What if a rock flew up from under the tire and hit one of the boys in the face while they were "smelling the fresh air". And it's not like they live in Mexico City where pollution is awful either. When my dad was little, a friend of his got decapitated from sticking her head out the window. Horrible story, and he made sure I sat down and wore my seatbelt, or the car didn't start.
And that "we want our boys to be boys". What does that even mean? Guess if one of them is trans, there's no hope for acceptance.
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There is a big difference between "letting the boys grow up in bubble wrap" and making sure that your kids are safe.It's fine to want your boys to be boys and let them get your hands dirty, but when their safety is in danger (the seatbelts, the matches, throwing logs), that's the time when a parent can step in. And it doesn't mean that she would be a bad parent in the slightest. Cody is old enough to be a cub scout now, let him do that and "get his hands dirty". I am still disgusted at their poor parenting decisions made in today's vlog.
Re: Bonnie Hoellein: Plastic Polyester Princess | Part 16
Cody can’t do scouts unless Joel takes him, just like with baseball, because god knows Bonnie can’t handle taking her kids to activities. She’s only their mother and it’s her turn to do and get whatever she wants, the ~*Griffiths*~ waytheyellow_daisy wrote:There is a big difference between "letting the boys grow up in bubble wrap" and making sure that your kids are safe.It's fine to want your boys to be boys and let them get your hands dirty, but when their safety is in danger (the seatbelts, the matches, throwing logs), that's the time when a parent can step in. And it doesn't mean that she would be a bad parent in the slightest. Cody is old enough to be a cub scout now, let him do that and "get his hands dirty". I am still disgusted at their poor parenting decisions made in today's vlog.
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bonnie: “i am probably more confident in my ability to raise them than i should be”
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Bonnie, I know you read here so please take this to heart, I genuinely care about your kids and if you read comments then most of your viewers love and really care about them too, please follow car safety laws! You can still let kids be kids while following the law, let them camp in the backyard, dance in the rain, play in the mud, have ice cream one night for dinner etc.
I admire youtubers that can admit that they were in the wrong, I remember a vlog where Julie Deru had put (either Porter or Cooper, I get them mixed up) in a booster seat and viewers let her know that he was too little so in the next vlog, she owned up to it and put him back in a carseat. I also remember when people had concerned with Noah's speech and Sam and Jenn thanked viewers and explained that they would bring it up with the doctor.
I admire youtubers that can admit that they were in the wrong, I remember a vlog where Julie Deru had put (either Porter or Cooper, I get them mixed up) in a booster seat and viewers let her know that he was too little so in the next vlog, she owned up to it and put him back in a carseat. I also remember when people had concerned with Noah's speech and Sam and Jenn thanked viewers and explained that they would bring it up with the doctor.
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I’m an ER Nurse at an adult hospital. Last night we had a 5 year old come in (they sent him to our hospital instead of the children’s down the road so he could stay with Mom) after a serious crash. He was injured but awake and talking. He was in a proper car seat. Later, I had a Grandma come in from the children’s hospital after a serious crash with her 4 year old grandson. She originally refused medical care so she could stay with him. The boy went to OR and she eventually felt bad enough and asked to be seen, so she was transferred to us. We got the update that he died in the OR. Police told us he was not properly restrained. Two little boys in one single night with two very different fates. I was gutted when I heard he died and had to listen to this poor Grandma sob for hours. Why someone would ever risk that is beyond me. It’s beyond infuriating. Police were very much involved, this woman could face charges.
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I think it's great that she wants to let her kids be kids and "boys be boys" or whatever, but I think it's funny she tries to excuse her ridiculous behavior by saying she's letting her children have fun and let loose. I also think it's funny she says she is raising strong, useful boys that will grow into men that work hard just like Joel. Hmm okay... but I think her boys are some of the whiniest, insecure boys I've ever watched. But maybe that's just me.
There is also a difference between letting kids have fun and being SAFE. However fun they think it might be, it won't be so fun if they get demonetized again or one of their kids get seriously hurt. They think they are invincible. And all of the comments calling her out only seem to fuel her fire and want to show off just how dangerous and "fun" she can be.
This is not something I can just excuse or take lightly. It's down right stupidity and, while I would never wish harm on her or her children, she needs a SERIOUS wake up call and I'm not sure what will knock it into her stuck up little mind that what she is doing is not funny, cool, or safe.
There is also a difference between letting kids have fun and being SAFE. However fun they think it might be, it won't be so fun if they get demonetized again or one of their kids get seriously hurt. They think they are invincible. And all of the comments calling her out only seem to fuel her fire and want to show off just how dangerous and "fun" she can be.
This is not something I can just excuse or take lightly. It's down right stupidity and, while I would never wish harm on her or her children, she needs a SERIOUS wake up call and I'm not sure what will knock it into her stuck up little mind that what she is doing is not funny, cool, or safe.
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You said it. And the ONLY thing that will make her change is a tragedy or near tragedy. If she and Joel aren't wearing seatbelts, the air bag is going to kill them.10PumpsOfVanilla wrote:I think it's great that she wants to let her kids be kids and "boys be boys" or whatever, but I think it's funny she tries to excuse her ridiculous behavior by saying she's letting her children have fun and let loose. I also think it's funny she says she is raising strong, useful boys that will grow into men that work hard just like Joel. Hmm okay... but I think her boys are some of the whiniest, insecure boys I've ever watched. But maybe that's just me.
There is also a difference between letting kids have fun and being SAFE. However fun they think it might be, it won't be so fun if they get demonetized again or one of their kids get seriously hurt. They think they are invincible. And all of the comments calling her out only seem to fuel her fire and want to show off just how dangerous and "fun" she can be.
This is not something I can just excuse or take lightly. It's down right stupidity and, while I would never wish harm on her or her children, she needs a SERIOUS wake up call and I'm not sure what will knock it into her stuck up little mind that what she is doing is not funny, cool, or safe.
The beginning of the movie "Dead Calm" shows what happens when a child isn't restrained. It has a slow motion scene of a toddler flying through the car. Obviously, it doesn't show the impact, but it's gut wrenching to watch.
I obviously don't _wish_ for anything to happen. I know she's not going to listen to us "haters" so I hope she has a little fender bender where someone just falls a little bit and gets scratched up. Because the alternative is just too awful.
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All this backlash so soon after last time. She’s going to have to make another sit down talk/cry for pity video again.
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Also, I forgot to mention in my last post, talk about the toxic masculinity they are fostering in their kids. I can't think of a single man in my life that bases his masculinity on whether or not he wears a seatbelt. There are no cons to being buckled in, only pros.
I do agree, however, that Bonnie sees any sort of criticism (even the genuine comments expressing concern) as a dare. At this rate, she's a lost cause. If you are so full of yourself that longtime viewers expressing concern over seatbelt safety causes you to become immediately defensive, maybe it's time to put the camera down. Not everything is an attack on your parenting and if you INTERPRET it as an attack, you're a small, incredibly insecure mother and maybe should pause for some self reflection.
I really do think that it's going to take a tragedy/near tragedy for these two to wisen up. In my hometown, there was a terrible accident when I was a child where a local boy had his head out the window of the car and was beheaded. That story haunted me for years. I was terrified of even sticking my hands out the window at redlights because of it. (By the way, I also have a brother who grew up to be a pretty tough dude, so unlike Bonnie's fears, he did not grow up "soft" by buckling up and that story was used as a cautionary tale for all of us.)
I have genuine concern for these children if Bonnie truly is egging them on to do dangerous stuff on camera just to piss off a handful of viewers who express concern. That isn't a Youtuber I want to support or remain subscribed to. Good luck on your way to a million, Bonnie. I feel like with anything, it's going to come at a price.
I do agree, however, that Bonnie sees any sort of criticism (even the genuine comments expressing concern) as a dare. At this rate, she's a lost cause. If you are so full of yourself that longtime viewers expressing concern over seatbelt safety causes you to become immediately defensive, maybe it's time to put the camera down. Not everything is an attack on your parenting and if you INTERPRET it as an attack, you're a small, incredibly insecure mother and maybe should pause for some self reflection.
I really do think that it's going to take a tragedy/near tragedy for these two to wisen up. In my hometown, there was a terrible accident when I was a child where a local boy had his head out the window of the car and was beheaded. That story haunted me for years. I was terrified of even sticking my hands out the window at redlights because of it. (By the way, I also have a brother who grew up to be a pretty tough dude, so unlike Bonnie's fears, he did not grow up "soft" by buckling up and that story was used as a cautionary tale for all of us.)
I have genuine concern for these children if Bonnie truly is egging them on to do dangerous stuff on camera just to piss off a handful of viewers who express concern. That isn't a Youtuber I want to support or remain subscribed to. Good luck on your way to a million, Bonnie. I feel like with anything, it's going to come at a price.
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Bonnie looooooves nothing more then to fuel the “haters”. It allows her to cry the poor victim of all these mean internet bullies and rally her troops in her defence. Because no matter what stupid decision she makes there will be people who support her. You can find support for anything on the internet, doesn’t make it ok.
Bonnie knew exactly what she was doing posting that clip, she’s been on YouTube long enough to know the backlash she would get. Not only didn’t she continue to post it she also posted an absolutely asinine comment defending her stupidity. At this point I could fully believe Bonnie only went on this trip so she could get that footage.
I really don’t think it will be long before one of her children are seriously hurt because of her poor parenting. And without a doubt she will film it. Hopefully she is permanently demonitized. She has shown time and time again that she can’t be a YouTuber and a parent. When allowing your kid to be put in a dangerous situation so you can say a big F U to your haters (fans/former fans who have legit concerns for their safety) you have a major problem. As much as I dislike Ellie and side eye her parenting at least she isn’t putting Calvin and Jackson in danger just for footage to piss off her haters.
Bonnie knew exactly what she was doing posting that clip, she’s been on YouTube long enough to know the backlash she would get. Not only didn’t she continue to post it she also posted an absolutely asinine comment defending her stupidity. At this point I could fully believe Bonnie only went on this trip so she could get that footage.
I really don’t think it will be long before one of her children are seriously hurt because of her poor parenting. And without a doubt she will film it. Hopefully she is permanently demonitized. She has shown time and time again that she can’t be a YouTuber and a parent. When allowing your kid to be put in a dangerous situation so you can say a big F U to your haters (fans/former fans who have legit concerns for their safety) you have a major problem. As much as I dislike Ellie and side eye her parenting at least she isn’t putting Calvin and Jackson in danger just for footage to piss off her haters.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellein: Plastic Polyester Princess | Part 16
Ellie may not be putting her kids in danger to poss odd the haters, but she absolutely puts herself and her own wnats/desides/needs before her children's well-being just as Bonnie is. That's no different on my book. Anytime you refuse to get your child proper medical attention because you're too lazy, you're absolutely making a reckless and selfish decision.
One sister is no better than the other at this point, they are both selfish and arrogantl mothers, no doubt like their own mother was.
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