The Bride of Chuckie: Holding deaths hand - Part 48
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The difference is that as you said Chuckie did got abused why does he keep his mouth shut? I am by no means favoring Tayler but the fact that Chuckie nor his family have report any of it. They are equally badnor even worse as they preach they love their grandchildren. If that was the case they would and absolutely must stop her and not waiting to reach a red point so it's highly possible that Chuckie says some bs stuff. Otherwise he would act instead of chicken fight with Tayler.
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Well we know for a fact that Tayler has been abusive in the past towards him. As for whether she was abusive towards him that night she "held deaths hand", that's mostly speculation at this point but judging by her past behaviour and her story it's not unlikely.SilverLady01 wrote:The difference is that as you said Chuckie did got abused why does he keep his mouth shut? I am by no means favoring Tayler but the fact that Chuckie nor his family have report any of it.
I think the reason Chuckie and his family haven't really said much about that night is because airing all their dirty laundry online won't help them in court.
Men are also less likely to talk about abuse and if I'm not mistaken it has been mostly Chuckie's family that have spoken out about the way Tayler treats him. They're both just as bad as each other.
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gypsophila wrote:This conversation keeps veering toward victim blaming, and it's uncomfortable to me. Chuckie did commit domestic violence. She did call the police and did get issued a restraining order based on law officials investigating her story. She may change the details and ramp it up some, but yes, she's still the victim. Chuckie had no business entering the house that day, and he did abuse her. It doesn't matter "how much" or "how little". He deserves what he got. Now it's time for Tayler to actually end things and sign the divorce papers. That's when she'll show that she's over and done with him.
When the "victim" is known as a habitual liar that can't keep a story straight it's really hard to tell if half the stuff even happened. Heck, for all we know half those bruises came from her jumping the baby gate. Most "angry" people I know are even worse when drunk so why would she allow someone that she claims always abused her in when he was drunk? Why can't she just sign the divorce papers and get it over with? Also, I am going to add that just because someone has a restraining order against them it doesn't make them a bad person. I say that because a restraining order can even be granted if the other person doesn't appear in court for whatever reason. It kind of all just depends on what the judge believes and/or how good of a liar a person can be.
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What I meant by saying is not to us for sure! I meant to the police or right services. And mainly I meant Chuck's family. If she was abusive to him they should have said something. Not for Chuckie as he is as bad as her but for the kids for god shake. If the abuse was that bad as they as well make it seem they are equally guilty by leaving these children in that environment. And don't start me with they couldn't have done something that is purely BS.
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Because she got there first and got a protection order against him, so he can't see the kids even though his no threat to them. Ohio is a mother state so they will believe Tayler over chuckie
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They definitely both had parts to play in all of this, because they've both laid hands on each other in the past. Chuckie is no saint, but neither is Tayler. However I don't think he's automatically a better parent or anything, I think they're both shitty and abusive, and they just rile each other up. I don't care if they beat each other to death, it's just sad for those kids
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Exactly like my point. Who cares who laid hands first!!!!
That is I why I stress the fact of their families to intervene for the kids sake!! It looks like no one is really care for these!!!! Poor kids it's such same.
That is I why I stress the fact of their families to intervene for the kids sake!! It looks like no one is really care for these!!!! Poor kids it's such same.
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we have gone to the police department for Chuckie to file charges against tayler but they told us to come back on Monday or Tuesday I can't remember what day Taylor had found out that we went down for Chuckie to file a police report because she had beaten the shit out of him broke his glasses punched him in his face several times he did not hit her back so we went back down on Monday or Tuesday tayler went down over the weekend did her report they took it she was a crying female. so we went down there on Monday or Tuesday they had a warrant out for Chucky arrest because they took taylor's report and that's when Chucky had that last restraining order and went to jail for an hour to Chucky said he would never go back to the police department because they always believe the females over the guys so we have tried to do things is always backfired in ourface because some people just get away with everything. Taylor even later admitted that she punched Chuckie in his face broke his glasses and the only marks she had on her was from him restraining her from trying to hit him. and you guys are right they both put their hands on each other and it is very sad for the kids but to say that as grandparents have not tried you couldn't be more wrong
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There shouldn't be sides here, though. You shouldn't be on Chuckie's side vs Tayler's side. You should be on the side of the children. They don't deserve to see their mother hit their father, or their father hit her back. They both did wrong and instead of fighting the charges and bickering over the truth, someone needs to step up and fight for the kids.
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you really think it's that easy we have tried we have done many things and it just isn't as easy as it sounds trust me the babies is always first and they are always what we think about
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I'm not on a particular side but I'm tired of her whining that she is the only victim when the only true victims are the children. They are adults and can walk away whereas the kids are just stuck there witnessing everything. I don't think either of them are better than the other but Tayler seems to bitch and milk her situation a lot more than he does when we all know she surely isn't little miss perfect over there. As much as she lies, there really is no telling if half the stuff is true or not. I don't know enough about Chuckie to know what kind of person he is but I'm sure he's not any better than her. I can only hope they both grow up for the kids sake and that Tayler doesn't get "impregnated" by Chuckie again while there is a restraining order against him like last time lol.
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The only victims in this situation are their three kids....
They are the only ones suffering through this bullshit.
They are stuck unfortunately with two backwoods hillbilly families who can't keep their tempers down or drugs and alcohol out of the arguments.
They will forever be paying the price for the upbringing they have had.
The only pity I feel is for Alesana, Jacoby, and Anberlin...
They are the only ones suffering through this bullshit.
They are stuck unfortunately with two backwoods hillbilly families who can't keep their tempers down or drugs and alcohol out of the arguments.
They will forever be paying the price for the upbringing they have had.
The only pity I feel is for Alesana, Jacoby, and Anberlin...
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All I'll say is that constantly trashing Tayler online while sticking up for Chuckie and making excuses for his violent temper and anger issues are probably not what's best for the kids. But I shouldn't be surprised, this family is trash all the way around
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Here's my opinion on this: both these families suck.
I don't care if it was my son or not, the second Chuckie or Tayler laid hands on each other those years back, something should of been done. If Chuckie hit first, both families should of help Tayler and the kids to get him help and vice versa. Taylers mom even admitted on FB that she knew about the abuse all these years...where the hell was her "crazy ass mom" side that she claims she has when this was all going down?
The only ones hurting are the kids. They don't deserve any of this at all. Stuff should of been back when Alesana was a baby.
I don't care if it was my son or not, the second Chuckie or Tayler laid hands on each other those years back, something should of been done. If Chuckie hit first, both families should of help Tayler and the kids to get him help and vice versa. Taylers mom even admitted on FB that she knew about the abuse all these years...where the hell was her "crazy ass mom" side that she claims she has when this was all going down?
The only ones hurting are the kids. They don't deserve any of this at all. Stuff should of been back when Alesana was a baby.
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I agree, this relationship has been toxic since the beginning. I can't believe it's been this many years and 3 children are suffering because of these two idiots. They are not, and haven't been good for each other by any means and I HOPE that they are done with each other romantically/physically and only communicate as decent competent human beings for the sake of those babies.hannahbanana wrote:Here's my opinion on this: both these families suck.
I don't care if it was my son or not, the second Chuckie or Tayler laid hands on each other those years back, something should of been done. If Chuckie hit first, both families should of help Tayler and the kids to get him help and vice versa. Taylers mom even admitted on FB that she knew about the abuse all these years...where the hell was her "crazy ass mom" side that she claims she has when this was all going down?
The only ones hurting are the kids. They don't deserve any of this at all. Stuff should of been back when Alesana was a baby.
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Her mom is an absolute joke. It seems like she only ever brings out her crazy mom side to defend Tayler's poor choices when people on the internet call her out for them. I'd like to know where her crazy mom side was when her daughter dropped out of school and kept getting pregnant on purpose with babies she couldn't support to an older guy that she abused and he abused her too. Where was her crazy mom side whenever Tayler tried to kill herself and also threatened to kill her grandkids? Half the reason Tayler is such a wreck of a person is because she's no different from her piece of shit mother who has done nothing but stand by and watch her daughter ruin her life.hannahbanana wrote:Taylers mom even admitted on FB that she knew about the abuse all these years...where the hell was her "crazy ass mom" side that she claims she has when this was all going down
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Pretty sure Tayler's mothering is based off of her mother being her role model. That would make sense.
And Chuckie's mom, don't stick up for your abusive son. Make him get help. Quit blaming everything on Tayler. They are both equally to blame for their toxic abusive relationship. It should have ended before they ever had children, let alone being encouraged to have 3 together after all the mutual domestic violence!
And Chuckie's mom, don't stick up for your abusive son. Make him get help. Quit blaming everything on Tayler. They are both equally to blame for their toxic abusive relationship. It should have ended before they ever had children, let alone being encouraged to have 3 together after all the mutual domestic violence!
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PERSONAL Please skip tried to put recipient but rejected and I really need advicemjh62715 wrote:you really think it's that easy we have tried we have done many things and it just isn't as easy as it sounds trust me the babies is always first and they are always what we think about
But in no way want to throw a pity party. If it is wrong please delete as I mentioned I cant work private messaging.
I don't think the situation is easy at all. I'm stuck in a financially, emotionally and very occasionally eg 3 times in 10 years( Pretty horrific 3 times ) relationship but the kids have never been at home and we don't fight cause I don't have a voice anymore. My daughter handed me her banana peel yesterday and rudely said put it in the bin, I responded are your arms broken, if you want me to do that you had better find some manners(dad wasn't home fisherman ) she looked at me like I was confused and said no I don't say please to you your not like a person you just have to do everything. She is 5 and incredibly polite to friends teachers, father brothers everyone but me.
I have no family, I am not allowed my own phone I access this sight from daughters Samsung galaxy tablet, no bank account, car identification he is 15 years older and over the years he has isolated me from all but a cpl of his older friends .
After my younger brother committed suicide last year I discussed separation the answer was Don't even try to threaten me I will beat you every time,
You see I have bipolar disorder managed successfully haven't been I hospital for 9 years except for ECT treatments which sound really scary but I am medication resistant and I can have it as day surgery 3 sessions a week for 3 weeks, anyway he says no court will give me custody when I'm unsupported and mentally unwell, have no income nothing I could take I live in Tasmania the Island state of Australia which has a total of 500000 people its a small town masquerading as a capital city and we have exactly one women's shelter in the south which has a looking waiting list. I have been away from my daughter one night in her life that includes babysitting eto the one night I had dental surgery and had low blood oxygen for a while in recovery so I was unexpectedly kept overnight. I hadon't not left her once until she started school.
Do you as someone who understands how these sort of people are have any advice, we both know restraining orders arnt worth the paper they are written on if the person has no respect for the law or fear of punishment
And these sort of people will say and do anything to get their own way.
He loves the kids more than anything but has literally never bathed, dressed ,fed, cleaned catered to washed clothes or picked up after the kids I do everything because I just can't be bothered trying anymore as soon as I get one thing done there is something else I've stuffed up.
I've slept on the couch in the living room for 4 years now waiting to be allowed back in the bed.
Im 35 and desperate but any advice I get assumes the person I'm dealing with is sane, rational, and wants what is best for the kids. I stress he loves them but has no clue how to mind one of them overnight. My son Joseph died 2010 aged 12 in an accident whilst being babysat by my mum so that relationship is not an option NO family.
I'm so sorry to pour all this out I'm just getting desperate but still as helpless as ever not even an idea at this point, maybe cause I will never meet or know you and I'm hoping you won't think I'm a scumbag, you wouldn't guess any of this if you saw me. And you really seem to love your son and would help him through anything regardless which I can't find fault with and from 21st I read Taylors behavior isn't about what's best for kids, it's all about her and I get a bit insulted about her abuse survival story it makes me feel even weaker for not handling it all.
Any advice welcomed email is [email protected]
thanks again and once again sorry
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gypsophila wrote:Pretty sure Tayler's mothering is based off of her mother being her role model. That would make sense.
And Chuckie's mom, don't stick up for your abusive son. Make him get help. Quit blaming everything on Tayler. They are both equally to blame for their toxic abusive relationship. It should have ended before they ever had children, let alone being encouraged to have 3 together after all the mutual domestic violence!
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You should probably change your name and delete your email address, you just shared where you live, you and your husband are incredibly easy to find. That is a whole lotta personal information to put out there.annaclinchwalsh wrote:PERSONAL Please skip tried to put recipient but rejected and I really need advicemjh62715 wrote:you really think it's that easy we have tried we have done many things and it just isn't as easy as it sounds trust me the babies is always first and they are always what we think about
But in no way want to throw a pity party. If it is wrong please delete as I mentioned I cant work private messaging.
I don't think the situation is easy at all. I'm stuck in a financially, emotionally and very occasionally eg 3 times in 10 years( Pretty horrific 3 times ) relationship but the kids have never been at home and we don't fight cause I don't have a voice anymore. My daughter handed me her banana peel yesterday and rudely said put it in the bin, I responded are your arms broken, if you want me to do that you had better find some manners(dad wasn't home fisherman ) she looked at me like I was confused and said no I don't say please to you your not like a person you just have to do everything. She is 5 and incredibly polite to friends teachers, father brothers everyone but me.
I have no family, I am not allowed my own phone I access this sight from daughters Samsung galaxy tablet, no bank account, car identification he is 15 years older and over the years he has isolated me from all but a cpl of his older friends .
After my younger brother committed suicide last year I discussed separation the answer was Don't even try to threaten me I will beat you every time,
You see I have bipolar disorder managed successfully haven't been I hospital for 9 years except for ECT treatments which sound really scary but I am medication resistant and I can have it as day surgery 3 sessions a week for 3 weeks, anyway he says no court will give me custody when I'm unsupported and mentally unwell, have no income nothing I could take I live in Tasmania the Island state of Australia which has a total of 500000 people its a small town masquerading as a capital city and we have exactly one women's shelter in the south which has a looking waiting list. I have been away from my daughter one night in her life that includes babysitting eto the one night I had dental surgery and had low blood oxygen for a while in recovery so I was unexpectedly kept overnight. I hadon't not left her once until she started school.
Do you as someone who understands how these sort of people are have any advice, we both know restraining orders arnt worth the paper they are written on if the person has no respect for the law or fear of punishment
And these sort of people will say and do anything to get their own way.
He loves the kids more than anything but has literally never bathed, dressed ,fed, cleaned catered to washed clothes or picked up after the kids I do everything because I just can't be bothered trying anymore as soon as I get one thing done there is something else I've stuffed up.
I've slept on the couch in the living room for 4 years now waiting to be allowed back in the bed.
Im 35 and desperate but any advice I get assumes the person I'm dealing with is sane, rational, and wants what is best for the kids. I stress he loves them but has no clue how to mind one of them overnight. My son Joseph died 2010 aged 12 in an accident whilst being babysat by my mum so that relationship is not an option NO family.
I'm so sorry to pour all this out I'm just getting desperate but still as helpless as ever not even an idea at this point, maybe cause I will never meet or know you and I'm hoping you won't think I'm a scumbag, you wouldn't guess any of this if you saw me. And you really seem to love your son and would help him through anything regardless which I can't find fault with and from 21st I read Taylors behavior isn't about what's best for kids, it's all about her and I get a bit insulted about her abuse survival story it makes me feel even weaker for not handling it all.
Any advice welcomed email is [email protected]
thanks again and once again sorry
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