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duhhitskarley wrote:I think people are missing that fact that they ARE Chris's(?) children too. Just because Ashley asked doesn't matter at all of Chris wasn't the one with the problem with it... i probably would have ignored Ashley's wishes as well.
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He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
Doesn't matter how little or a lot he is in their lives it's still their father? A dad can live with a kid full time and be a shit dad. I honestly don't think time can determine that. And if you didn't read all my post I was specifically talking about posting pictures with a significant others child that is not biologically your own. It's going to happen if we like it or not. So it's probably best to get over it if it were happening in our lives. Ie Ashley needs to get the fuck over Jess and Jess needs to get the fuck over drake and Natalie/whatever girl he's sleeping with in the side lol.
duhhitskarley wrote:I think people are missing that fact that they ARE Chris's(?) children too. Just because Ashley asked doesn't matter at all of Chris wasn't the one with the problem with it... i probably would have ignored Ashley's wishes as well.
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He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
Doesn't matter how little or a lot he is in their lives it's still their father? A dad can live with a kid full time and be a shit dad. I honestly don't think time can determine that. And if you didn't read all my post I was specifically talking about posting pictures with a significant others child that is not biologically your own. It's going to happen if we like it or not. So it's probably best to get over it if it were happening in our lives. Ie Ashley needs to get the fuck over Jess and Jess needs to get the fuck over drake and Natalie/whatever girl he's sleeping with in the side lol.
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I do hope that Ashley is able to put aside the disrespect from the beginning of their relationship and get along for the kids, but I guess she never has to really see Jess anyways bc of the ridiculous drive. But I can't blame her for not wanting to talk to Jess lol. I would seriously die if she were my kids stepmother
I think its a terrible idea to have a kid in the room during birth, maybe with an epidural ok but not a natural birth. When I was a nursing student I watched a birth and the time before the epidural was scary for me to watch. Its not so much the nastyness of it coming out of her mothers vag but its her screaming on the top of her lungs, Lilia would think shes dying. In Lilias birthday vids she only shows the ending not her screaming and moaning. I was a little freaked out by jessicas births, Im uncomfortable with humans screaming like that and being in that much pain, Jessica did better with Landens birth but wit the twins she couldnt keep it together as much, she looked annoyed when she moaned and kept saying "shut up, shut up" to everyone in the room, I dont think Lilia would understand that and even if she did, it might freak her out that her mom is acting like that. And even though Landens birth was better theres almost no avoiding the screaming at the very end of labor, her screaming in the tub right before he came out kinda scared me a bit, I thought she was going to sit on his head/neck. And even if Mimi takes her out when it gets bad, when is that? when the screaming starts? wouldnt lilia be like why are they making me leave?
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duhhitskarley wrote:I think people are missing that fact that they ARE Chris's(?) children too. Just because Ashley asked doesn't matter at all of Chris wasn't the one with the problem with it... i probably would have ignored Ashley's wishes as well.
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He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
Doesn't matter how little or a lot he is in their lives it's still their father? A dad can live with a kid full time and be a shit dad. I honestly don't think time can determine that. And if you didn't read all my post I was specifically talking about posting pictures with a significant others child that is not biologically your own. It's going to happen if we like it or not. So it's probably best to get over it if it were happening in our lives. Ie Ashley needs to get the fuck over Jess and Jess needs to get the fuck over drake and Natalie/whatever girl he's sleeping with in the side lol.
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I disagree in this situation. Its not a personal facebook page with 300 friends and family seeing pictures. Its 200,000 strangers watching videos of your kids along with knowing exactly where they are. I would be worried about my kids safety too, and its disrespectful to ignore a parents reasonable request to keep their kids off the internet.
Yogabbagabbat wrote:
He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
Doesn't matter how little or a lot he is in their lives it's still their father? A dad can live with a kid full time and be a shit dad. I honestly don't think time can determine that. And if you didn't read all my post I was specifically talking about posting pictures with a significant others child that is not biologically your own. It's going to happen if we like it or not. So it's probably best to get over it if it were happening in our lives. Ie Ashley needs to get the fuck over Jess and Jess needs to get the fuck over drake and Natalie/whatever girl he's sleeping with in the side lol.
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I disagree in this situation. Its not a personal facebook page with 300 friends and family seeing pictures. Its 200,000 strangers watching videos of your kids along with knowing exactly where they are. I would be worried about my kids safety too, and its disrespectful to ignore a parents reasonable request to keep their kids off the internet.
My only point was that it may be disrespectful to Ashley, it's not to Chris and he has a say what happens to the children when they are with him just like Ashley does when they are with her. I would WANT that for my kid? No but I wouldn't really have a choice...and it's extremely petty of her to speak the way she did about it. Just like it's extremely petty for Jess to be the way she is about things. Neither of them are exactly right. I just don't think Ashley's a saint lol.
duhhitskarley wrote:I think people are missing that fact that they ARE Chris's(?) children too. Just because Ashley asked doesn't matter at all of Chris wasn't the one with the problem with it... i probably would have ignored Ashley's wishes as well.
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He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
This a million times! Everyone likes to act like Chris is such a great dad just because he sees his kids once a month. We only know Chris and Jessica's side of the story, and as we all know Jessica isn't the most honest person. Heck for all we know Jessica could be the one encouraging the relationship with his kids (*cough*Natalie*cough*) so she can have her "perfect blended family".
It won't let me quote, but if she poops in the birth pool they use a fish net to get it out. Like a little one for a fish tank. I wish I didn't know that but my friend is a doula. Lol
Yogabbagabbat wrote:
He's a once a month dad that makes his kids sit in the car for 12 hours within 3 days and had his kids call his gf mom after being with her a month. I wouldn't value his opinion much.
And my main point is that if Jess wanted a great relationship with their mom like she claimed, she would have respected her wishes instead of talking shit all over Ashley to her teenage followers.
Doesn't matter how little or a lot he is in their lives it's still their father? A dad can live with a kid full time and be a shit dad. I honestly don't think time can determine that. And if you didn't read all my post I was specifically talking about posting pictures with a significant others child that is not biologically your own. It's going to happen if we like it or not. So it's probably best to get over it if it were happening in our lives. Ie Ashley needs to get the fuck over Jess and Jess needs to get the fuck over drake and Natalie/whatever girl he's sleeping with in the side lol.
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I disagree in this situation. Its not a personal facebook page with 300 friends and family seeing pictures. Its 200,000 strangers watching videos of your kids along with knowing exactly where they are. I would be worried about my kids safety too, and its disrespectful to ignore a parents reasonable request to keep their kids off the internet.
My thoughts exactly. There is a very big difference between putting photos on your personal page where only people you actually know in real life will see it compared to putting videos on YouTube where hundreds of thousands of people will see it.
My daughter is nearly four and has asked to be at the birth of her baby brother. She will be. I have two friends who are planning on coming to watch the birth or take her elsewhere if it becomes too much for her (because you never really know how a birth will go). We have watched many birth videos together, she knows how babies are made and where they come from.
Lying to your kids and sheltering them does nothing except make kids that are disturbed when they find out how birth actually works. It's not gross, it's a part of life and it's a beautiful part of life at that.
I'm actually with Jess here. But I do hope she prepares herself and tries to have a calmer birth. Landen's birth was a mess.
I wouldn't want the kids there if I was Jess. Maybe she doesn't care but in Landen's birth she yelled out obscenities over and over and over. And we all know when she is having a contraction she does not want to be touched or talked to....will she shout at the kids if they don't understand this? Perhaps if they were older but I don't think kids that young should be there at all.
I wouldn't want my son there either. When I was pregnant my son was 6 and I went in for early labor. My fiance brought me and of course my son came too. The doc had to examine me and anyone who has had their cervix checked knows it hurts or at the very least uncomfortable. I was screaming and crying and my son was in the hallway in hysterics because I sounded like I was dying. Kids shouldn't see their moms in pain like that. My son still brings it up 3 years later.
I think sometimes it can be nice to have the children there, if you are calm and don't scream! Jess screams and screams, it would probably terrify Lilia. My mum has had 3 children, 2 were big babies and she didn't scream like that!
lizpuff2006 wrote:I wouldn't want the kids there if I was Jess. Maybe she doesn't care but in Landen's birth she yelled out obscenities over and over and over. And we all know when she is having a contraction she does not want to be touched or talked to....will she shout at the kids if they don't understand this? Perhaps if they were older but I don't think kids that young should be there at all.
Yeah I don't blame her for screaming but even watching the video of the twins and landens birth was uncomfortable for me just because it's kind of scary to see another person in so much agony. And this is a person I don't really like. I can't imagine seeing my mom go through that.
& you're right..What if Lilia wants to go over and check on Jess and hug her and Jess snaps at her to back up since she doesn't like to be touched while laboring... This would probably be one of lilias earliest memories when she gets older and it would suck if it was negative. I have a trucker mouth when my kids aren't around but hearing Jess scream "f*cking sh*t" a million times would be scary for lilia lol
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I personally don't think it's bad to have your child there, but you need to explain everything, especially when they are as old as Lilia. She needs to understand what's going on, that it's not playtime when mommy has a contraction, but that it's painful and of course she needs to know where babies come out. Not a good idea if you're planning to use the storch-theory until they are old enough to be taught about it, but even then nobody ever shows the real deal to them.
My problem is jess says "oh she's seen clips of the births" well let her sit with you an watch the whole thing... show her some of the unedited footage... if she still feels ok with it then sure! But a few happy video clips of mom being handed a baby are not the reality of child birth and labour!
mocalyn wrote:My problem is jess says "oh she's seen clips of the births" well let her sit with you an watch the whole thing... show her some of the unedited footage... if she still feels ok with it then sure! But a few happy video clips of mom being handed a baby are not the reality of child birth and labour!
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I still think this would only work when Jess first explains what's going to happen in the video and only then show it to her, watching her reaction closely
mocalyn wrote:My problem is jess says "oh she's seen clips of the births" well let her sit with you an watch the whole thing... show her some of the unedited footage... if she still feels ok with it then sure! But a few happy video clips of mom being handed a baby are not the reality of child birth and labour!
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So true. The AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH OH MY GOD I'M PUSHING OOOOWWWWW OWOWOWOWOWOWOEOEOWOWOWOW OMG AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH is the reality.
Posting my two cents about Lilia being present for the birth.
I haven't had a baby, so I haven't experienced the harsh realities of childbirth that many of your have. But when I was a kid, from the age of about 7 onwards, I was OBSESSED with babies and pregnancy and childbirth. I used to watch "A Baby Story" on TLC all the time, and I had a book on the human body that I would read the pregnancy section of, and I watched documentaries on pregnancy whenever I could. I know it's a weird thing to be obsessed with, but I told my mom I wanted to deliver babies when I grew up so I guess she just fed my obsession lol...
Long story short, I would have loved to see a real live birth. Maybe not all of it, but at least the part where the baby comes out. Maybe they won't have Lilia present the whole time? I think it's okay if she's at home and just sort of on stand-by, like "Hey Lilia, come in because the baby's coming out soon" as long as they prepare her and warn her that there may be a lot of screaming/blood/goo/yucky stuff etc. If she stays at Jess's head and Mimi watches her, I think it could be okay.
I think Jess knows Lilia well enough to know what she can handle and what she can't, but she's made poor decisions before... so who knows. lol
I agree with what some others said, I don't see a problem if Lilia is VERY well prepared and wants to be there. Especially if Mimi or whoever is there to really monitor her and remove her from the situation if necessary.
On a different note, it drives me crazy all these YouTube and Instagram moms that keep popping out kids but get rid of all their maternity and baby stuff after each kid. I'm guessing they do it because they like to keep having baby shower & haul videos. But it's so annoying. And we all know Jessica didn't really think Landen was her last baby..