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Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Vincere » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:58 pm

menehune wrote:We may feel like Youtubers are exploiting their children, but we are buying what they are selling. Just as one can criticize people for eating at Chik-Fil-A, we are at fault for watching and supporting vloggers. There is still one saving grace with Bonnie though. She isn't vlogging full time yet. Her kids have more privacy than those of the full time vloggers and they do at least get a break. That's at least something in my eyes since I do still watch family vloggers despite questioning the ethics. There are definitely worse offenders that I will no longer watch and support daily though (E&J, Daily Bumps, Shaytards, Saccone-Jolys, etc). I don't feel that the Hoellein's have reached Truman Show proportions yet like other vloggers.

It's interesting. I have some TTC couples YTers that I enjoy watching who I really hope get pregnant. The second they have their baby though, I know I will question the ethics of having their child on Youtube, but at the same time I wouldn't want them to disappear. It's an interesting dynamic we have with Youtubers. Don't show us your life, but don't stop either.


If you use an AdBlocker you don't help the vloggers with anything, they get their money from ads but I don't see any!
So I strongly suggest installing one!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby lmmomSD » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:43 pm

AdBlock is great. No ads, and no income for the vloggers from the views.

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby chachismemories1 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:52 pm

I really wish she would do more sit down type videos! This would cut down on all the negative comments she can't handle. And I am just so bored with her daily vlogs of bath time and footage of E and J!!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby staceybrax » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:07 pm

chachismemories1 wrote:I really wish she would do more sit down type videos! This would cut down on all the negative comments she can't handle. And I am just so bored with her daily vlogs of bath time and footage of E and J!!


I agree. Her makeup videos are so good, it's like sitting down with a friend while she chit chats away. She should do more tutorials. Little girls hairstyles, makeup, adult hairstyles etc. she has a real talent for these things but she rarely does those videos anymore.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Snootfullofhoneybees » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:15 am

I thought Bonnie and Joel got Jackson some of that fancy fake food? I thought I read that on Ellie's thread.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby RecklessDisregard » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:17 am

Snootfullofhoneybees wrote:I thought Bonnie and Joel got Jackson some of that fancy fake food? I thought I read that on Ellie's thread.


The pizza set, I think. It was the flat box in Christmas paper that someone else mentioned.

My thoughts on the used gifts - It's a bit bizarre to me, particularly gifting anything that isn't at least in "like new" condition. I will admit to a strong personal bias, though. Growing up, most of the stuff we got was from garage sales or thrift stores, and I resented the hell out of it, which was pretty snobby of me, but it is what it is. I learned very early - like before kindergarten - that other children got clothes and toys that were new, with price tags and packaging, whereas everything we got was used. In time I came to appreciate thrifting, especially for high-value electronics, jewelry, kitchenware and appliances, but I still wouldn't give a small child used crap for his birthday.

The toy pizza set was the real gift and I wouldn't necessarily expect separate gifts from each of Bonnie's children, so I'll just chalk the used gifts up to being another weird Griffiths thing. The wrapping paper didn't really bug me either. It was candy cane striped but didn't say "Merry Christmas" or whatever on it. I would personally have just bought different paper, especially with the income these people make and considering that the gifts were going to be shown on YouTube, but Griffiths gonna Griffiths. My mom did stuff like use Christmas paper for birthdays. (As a child, I once got a gift from a friend that was wrapped in newspaper - the comics page specifically. I thought that was neat and in a pinch would do that rather than the Christmas paper.)
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby chipmunks » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:45 am

IceCreamCone wrote:
tratra58 wrote:
IceCreamCone wrote:Boston is such a funny little character. He's probably a lot of work some days, so I'm glad he's not my child, but I do adore watching him!

Do the Griffiths only do birthday parties on the child's actual birthday? I've noticed this before and it always seems to be on a Monday. There were so many kids missing from the party. I didn't see Kate and I'm fairly certain she lives close by. Or why not invite Noah from Samika? Are Jackson's only friends his cousins? I'm used to Saturday parties, so the weekday party makes no sense to me unless everyone can attend. By making it on a weekday you are pretty much ensuring minimal attendance. Strange family.


I see your point with having it on the weekend so more family can attend. But maybe having the birthday vlog on the weekday, they get more views?


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Could be, but then that really sucks for the child and I would hope that's not the case. I can't imagine that being it though. Most of Ellie and Jared's fanbase is children, and I imagine they will go back and watch past vlogs, even if they can't watch over the weekend.


This is a griffiths-wide trait so I don't think it's for the vlogs. It makes sense to me that in these larger families birthdays would be a small celebration and just on the day of. These days everyone tries to out-Pinterest each other on everything that it's nice to just see small affairs to celebrate that kid's day.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:16 am

In the vlog yesterday Ellie mentioned going on a road trip. We know they will 100% go to California for Bryan's album release. Only, why would they drive? E&J always fly, and aren't shy about wasting money lately. Then, last night, Bonnie Insta'd a pic teasing a possible vacation....
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As much as I'd love for the Hoellein kids to go to Disney, I do not want to see them go with E&J, or the Lumps. Or going to his album release and fangirling over it
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby chachismemories1 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:18 am

Another fake image she tries to portray is how close her family is. she can't hold Jackson's party on a weekend for the other cousins to be able to attend but they sure as heck can fly out for Ollie's extravagant birthday party!! I don't mind the simple style of Jacksons party, I prefer it and do the same with my kids but you would think if her family is so tight nit they would have at least to have thought about them being able to come too.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby chachismemories1 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:19 am

chachismemories1 wrote:Another fake image she tries to portray is how close her family is. she can't hold Jackson's party on a weekend for the other cousins to be able to attend but they sure as heck can fly out for Ollie's extravagant birthday party!! I don't mind the simple style of Jacksons party, I prefer it and do the same with my kids but you would think if her family is so tight nit they would have at least to have thought about them being able to come too.



Opps! Meant to put this on Ellie's board.....
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby lexlex11 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:22 am

I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but do we have any idea what this could be about?

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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby AutumnLane » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:31 am

Not even one minute into today's vlog and Bonnie is making our comments again about her ex boyfriends in front of Joel and the kids.

This girl can be so socially awkward. I find those comments to be completely inappropriate even more so since she's posting it online. How would she like it if Joe are making those comments?
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby yoyo16 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:11 am

lexlex11 wrote:I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but do we have any idea what this could be about?

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Her Aunt Sonya? I hope everything is ok with her.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Denlillehavfrue » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:19 am

I typically let bonnie pass with a lot less criticism than other youtubers but I must say, those couple of hours she has with Boston, she ALWAYS pops in a movie. We all know Cody did not know his letters before school. This is the perfect time to work with Boston and teach him.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:32 am

Denlillehavfrue wrote:I typically let bonnie pass with a lot less criticism than other youtubers but I must say, those couple of hours she has with Boston, she ALWAYS pops in a movie. We all know Cody did not know his letters before school. This is the perfect time to work with Boston and teach him.


I agree, or at the very least (and this applies to most YTers I watch) give them a tablet with some educational apps to play and let them teach themselves. I think some parents like to pride themselves on their children being technology free (or just watch tv), but if you carefully select what they are watching/playing, it can actually be beneficial. Some stubborn kids even learn better when they are able to teach themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case with a strong-willed personality like Boston.

Not saying this should replace interacting with your child and trying to teach them, but it can be a nice accompaniment, or at least something better than watching programs where they won't even learn anything. I am an advocate for kids having "quiet time" to recharge when they are no longer napping, and a tablet/educational program is far better than a mindless movie.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:38 am

Denlillehavfrue wrote:I typically let bonnie pass with a lot less criticism than other youtubers but I must say, those couple of hours she has with Boston, she ALWAYS pops in a movie. We all know Cody did not know his letters before school. This is the perfect time to work with Boston and teach him.


It seems like by Kindergarten, children are require to know letters, how to write your name, colors etc. Do you think Utah school system evaluates (mandates) preschoolers to be tested to see where they are at with academic as well as motor skills etc. before they start Kindergarten like some states in the US. I don't see kids the Griffith/Hoellein kids go to preschool so I don't know if it is them or the area? It might help them on several levels going to a local preschool program a couple of days a week for a few hours especially during the winter when you are home as much as you are. Otherwise, it would be good to work on their academic skills since I think by Kindergarten, you will see children reading at this age.

It has to be a long winter and I can see cabin fever being an issue. Even going to the hardware store is getting out which I think the kids actually enjoy and I bet they enjoy being with their dad.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:41 am

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Her Aunt Sonya? I hope everything is ok with her.


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I hope their aunt is doing ok too. I don't think she looked well from the short clip they showed last week, but in good spirits. My impression is Aunt Sonya is not that old either.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby workfromhomemom » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:58 am

AutumnLane wrote:Not even one minute into today's vlog and Bonnie is making our comments again about her ex boyfriends in front of Joel and the kids.

This girl can be so socially awkward. I find those comments to be completely inappropriate even more so since she's posting it online. How would she like it if Joe are making those comments?


This is at least the second time she's told that story too.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby jenboghel01 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:05 pm

Ruby is way worse than Bonnie when it comes to filming at innappropriate times for views. She "loses" her kids on purpose in the store so she can "find" them for the vlog. It's interesting to compare the two haha
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby tratra58 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:50 pm

jenboghel01 wrote:Ruby is way worse than Bonnie when it comes to filming at innappropriate times for views. She "loses" her kids on purpose in the store so she can "find" them for the vlog. It's interesting to compare the two haha


And to think they are making a six figure income filming these vlogs....crazy.
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby HelloSweetie » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:51 pm

jenboghel01 wrote:Ruby is way worse than Bonnie when it comes to filming at innappropriate times for views. She "loses" her kids on purpose in the store so she can "find" them for the vlog. It's interesting to compare the two haha


Well, to be fair, she doesn't have to try very hard to lose Eve. That girl is a nightmare!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby Namm » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:04 pm

Evie is way to understimulated for her age so she has to create her own exciting world ...
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby jenboghel01 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:49 pm

Namm wrote:Evie is way to understimulated for her age so she has to create her own exciting world ...


This made me laugh out loud!
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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:31 am

It is so annoying how Bonnie refuses to buy a dishwasher but then uses paper plates all the time or just places the food on the bare table. Why does she insist on hand washing all her dishes? I couldn't imagine living like that and if I had to I would probably cheat and use paper plates as well.


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Re: Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:38 am

MommaLindsey2 wrote:It is so annoying how Bonnie refuses to buy a dishwasher but then uses paper plates all the time or just places the food on the bare table. Why does she insist on hand washing all her dishes? I couldn't imagine living like that and if I had to I would probably cheat and use paper plates as well.


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Ellie and DB have dishwashers and use paper all the time. I don't think a dishwasher has much to do with preventing that.

I have no problem with someone not having a dishwasher, but I hate the regular use of paper plates. I have learned from previous discussions on other boards that it is normal, but I try to be a lot more environmental than that.
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