Geez, I just got that awful image of Ellie flopping around in the snow after jumping out of the hot tub. lol.menehune wrote:People might have gone nuts if it was Ellie, but not the first time. If you go back and see the first few times Ellie posted revealing photos, people stuck up for her and it was no big deal. Now she gets a ton of shit because she's continued to preach modesty and act conservative, while flaunting her body in dance competitions, vlogs, and beach houses. This is the first time Bonnie has posted a revealing photo, but she it's taken as her being just as bad as her sister because people assume they are one and the same.
I don't know if Ellie would have got side-eye for the blur, because I think most comments would have been about how surprised everyone was that it was actually blurred in the first place!
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I thought she wasn't wearing pants in the pic and blurred out her bare bum. lol
It does send mixed signals. She wouldn't normally post pictures like that, and if she wears shorts, they always cover her garments. So why is it that when they're wearing swimsuits, all LDS modesty goes out the window and you can show your body off? It's just odd to me, because there are women of all religions who practice modesty in dressing and don't make exceptions for the beach. I think the Griffith's need to make up their mind.
It does send mixed signals. She wouldn't normally post pictures like that, and if she wears shorts, they always cover her garments. So why is it that when they're wearing swimsuits, all LDS modesty goes out the window and you can show your body off? It's just odd to me, because there are women of all religions who practice modesty in dressing and don't make exceptions for the beach. I think the Griffith's need to make up their mind.
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It is time for Bonnie and Joel to have a vlog Q & A so they can put all these questions and Mormon practices to rest.Sarai wrote:I thought she wasn't wearing pants in the pic and blurred out her bare bum. lol
It does send mixed signals. She wouldn't normally post pictures like that, and if she wears shorts, they always cover her garments. So why is it that when they're wearing swimsuits, all LDS modesty goes out the window and you can show your body off? It's just odd to me, because there are women of all religions who practice modesty in dressing and don't make exceptions for the beach. I think the Griffith's need to make up their mind.
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I don't think she planned to have her photo be too cheeky? She probably got the pic taken, thought it was bordering on too much bum for her comfort level and blurred it. How is blurring a bit of butt cheek immodest?! That makes it more modest doesn't it? Actually confused.
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Sarong's are great.RootBeerFloatie wrote:Eh, if my ass was hanging out of something I wouldn't wear it, and I wouldn't pause to have someone else take a picture.
Am I really the only person who finds it very strange that a grown woman would post a picture of essentially her bare ass, blur it out, and post it to her public instagram? That's weird as hell.
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^This. It's not like she's a vlogger, takes regular photo's/stills, camera angle set up's/adjustments on the daily. Why not just take another photo straight after with the cozzie pulled out of your ass. That would be less time consuming and hassle (especially on vacation) than blurring a photo and taking time to write a 'witty' comment. Or, perhaps she's standing in defiant support of Jared's butt bearing of her son. #UtahButtsStandTogetherhey girl hey007 wrote:I think the thing is it's how she did it and what was said. She knew her bottoms were riding up, she posed and asked someone to take the picture, then she went on to edit the picture, and also point out that it was too inappropriate so she edited it. If she didn't want to get shit for it she shouldn't have shared it. It's really all that simple. Sometimes you can never win on here, people are bashing her or bashing others for bashing her. It's a gossip site we don't all have to agree but sometimes Bonnie does things that make me side eye her like this picture. The whole thing contradicts itself.
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The thing is, for me, is that she's pointing out that she's on the beach with her suit showing most of her butt, and like someone else said, they're taking lots of pictures, why use that one? I don't know if she planned that picture that way or not, but nevertheless, it's the one she chose to put online. I don't think she's "as bad as Ellie", and I am definitely not intending to body shame her. I think she has a great body, especially after four kids!Snootfullofhoneybees wrote:I don't think she planned to have her photo be too cheeky? She probably got the pic taken, thought it was bordering on too much bum for her comfort level and blurred it. How is blurring a bit of butt cheek immodest?! That makes it more modest doesn't it? Actually confused.
Didn't mean to start such a big sh*t storm. I don't think she's awful for having posted it. It's just something I wouldn't have done, especially with all those cameras there. I'm sure she has lots of pictures she could have posted,band I think she chose that one because it would get attention. That's all.
Also looking forward to seeing the vlog of Huanauma Bay. (Hope I spelled it right) It's a preserve, so the fish aren't afraid of people, and they're beautiful. Too bad the Toiletilet Bowl is closed. Ellie would have screamed a LOT there!
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She had on a snorkel mask and was wet. I don't know anyone who wears a sarong snorkeling.Scar2016 wrote:Sarong's are great.RootBeerFloatie wrote:Eh, if my ass was hanging out of something I wouldn't wear it, and I wouldn't pause to have someone else take a picture.
Am I really the only person who finds it very strange that a grown woman would post a picture of essentially her bare ass, blur it out, and post it to her public instagram? That's weird as hell.
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Am I really the only person who finds it very strange that a grown woman would post a picture of essentially her bare ass, blur it out, and post it to her public instagram? That's weird as hell.
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I wasnt shocked either when I saw the bathing suit picture. I think it's just her personality to post a pic like that. I personally wouldn't but that's just me, but it doesn't shock me Bonnie did and I really don't see what the big deal is about. Like others have said she proabably saw the picture after it was taken, and thought that's too much to post so I will make it funny and blurr it out, I think that just Bonnie be Bonnie, I can imagine her laughing as she posted it.
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I think she was just being funny. She is prob is insecure and she sees Ellie flaunting her bathing suit body about and wants to post a beach pic but is also kinda uncomfortable with her body so humour is a good way to cover up insecurities. The picture isn't a big deal.
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I don't think she is insecure about her bathing suit body. It simply isn't a flattering picture and it is too bad there isn't another picture since this bathing suit looks nice with what is shown in today's vlog. She has never been a petite woman or looks like Ellie and I don't think that bothers her. Ellie is being rip to shreds on the other board for being too thin or words used like "skeleton" so of the two sisters, I would be more insecure if I was Ellie. And Ellie has made subtle comments about Bonnie's body shape which I never understood why.gymchick43 wrote:I think she was just being funny. She is prob is insecure and she sees Ellie flaunting her bathing suit body about and wants to post a beach pic but is also kinda uncomfortable with her body so humour is a good way to cover up insecurities. The picture isn't a big deal.
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I definitely think Bonnie is insecure about her body. She's discussed being insecure about it before. Heck, she cried when she had to lift up her shirt for the doctor during a prenatal appointment! And during that she even mentioned her stomach wasn't cute like Ellie's. It's not a slight against Bonnie, being insecure about your weight and appearance is, unfortunately, very common among women. And while she was never Ellie's size (nor should she want to be, in my opinion) she was considerably skinnier even just a couple years ago. I still think she looks great now, though!
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I disagree. I think she has matured or at peace with her mom of four body. She acknowledges she feels better going to the gym and works at eating healthier (don't we all), but is fine or secure with her looks. Bonnie wears beautiful clothes/accessories and her hair and make-up looks like it is professional done. I think that is why sponsors are reaching out to her since she looks like and is a relatable thirty year old mom.formerctfxcer wrote:I definitely think Bonnie is insecure about her body. She's discussed being insecure about it before. Heck, she cried when she had to lift up her shirt for the doctor during a prenatal appointment! And during that she even mentioned her stomach wasn't cute like Ellie's. It's not a slight against Bonnie, being insecure about your weight and appearance is, unfortunately, very common among women. And while she was never Ellie's size (nor should she want to be, in my opinion) she was considerably skinnier even just a couple years ago. I still think she looks great now, though!
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I think she's maybe made peace with her body, but is still not 100% secure about it.
She said she's insecure many times. I believe her. It would be amazing if she grew up the largest daughter in the Griffith's home and didn't have any lasting body issues because of it.
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Bonnie has been so emotional in these vlogs & you can tell how appreciative she is for this opportunity & "job". She probably thought she'd never be able to do things like this
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I haven't heard Bonnie express the insecurities and she instead points out her flaws which is something a person secure in herself might do. She is fine and feels fortunate to be on this nice trip which she expressed how thankful she was at the end of today's vlog. I think we get way out there by speculating with Bonnie and Ellie's body issues since we are not family or friends or knows how Bonnie grew up. I will leave it at that.HelloSweetie wrote:I think she's maybe made peace with her body, but is still not 100% secure about it.
She said she's insecure many times. I believe her. It would be amazing if she grew up the largest daughter in the Griffith's home and didn't have any lasting body issues because of it.
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Agree with this. Many women Bonnie's age who grew up with insecurities about their bodies have made peace with it and embraced their shapes. But they are not from the Griffiths family. That family, specifically Grandma Griff, is responsible for a number of deep-rooted, even ingrained issues, in the adult daughters' minds. And where most young women put at least a little space between themselves and their families as they become adults, these sisters remained each other's best friends and also rivals for the attention and approval of their mother. Many viewers see how close this family is and envy it (I certainly did at first), but there is a weird toxic competition going on as well.HelloSweetie wrote:I think she's maybe made peace with her body, but is still not 100% secure about it.
She said she's insecure many times. I believe her. It would be amazing if she grew up the largest daughter in the Griffith's home and didn't have any lasting body issues because of it.
To get their mom's approval, the daughters need to be perfect - which involves being pretty and presenting well, remaining faithful to their church and attending services regularly, having tons of babies, keeping a very clean home, being financially stable and prepared to endure hardships without assistance, worshipping their mom, and of course, being thin. Right now, Ellie is the obvious winner, but I think all the daughters yearn for approval. Being content with a larger body is not part of that paradigm, even though Bonnie puts on a smile and tries to exude confidence.
I remember Bonnie getting emotional in the doctor's office, and having trouble shopping for a dress for Lincoln's baby blessing (Ellie was with her). She has shown pictures of herself when she was younger and thinner, and was wistful in her comments, which is relatable for many women. She is trying to work with what she has, buying a variety of nice clothes and putting effort into her hair/makeup. It works - I think she is a beautiful mom, and so do most of her viewers. But I think she would switch bodies with one of her sisters, Ruby or Julie, in a heartbeat if that was possible.
Basically this post was a long-winded way of saying that working with what she has to be as attractive, and appear as confident, as possible does not mean she isn't insecure.
I do agree with tratra though, in that Bonnie's appearance and relatability as a mom are very appealing to sponsors. I also wonder if going it on her own, without a management company, works in her favor with sponsors who may not want to deal with the management companies like Fullscreen or Maker.
Finally, I hope Bonnie remembers that she got where she is, financially with YouTube, because she was so relatable. Others here have said her vlogs used to feel like sitting down for a chat with a friend. She really needs to retain that quality. A vacation is fine, because she's never had one, at least since her channel started. But having two parents at home and spending a lot of money is not what made Bonnie popular. I hope she sticks to what she knows, going forward... But am of course afraid she will follow in E+J's footsteps.
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I am pretty positive Bonnie has some insecurities about her body. I don't know how anyone who watches can think she doesn't. Even in these vlogs she literally said she was worried about being in Hawaii and wearing a bathing suit but that the comments complimenting her has made her feel good. Also as far was pointing out flaws being proof she's not insecure that's just not true. Sometimes people point out their flaws before others can and make it a joke before anyone else can. I myself do this. It might not make sense but it sometimes feels like it gives the person control over their insecurity.tratra58 wrote:I haven't heard Bonnie express the insecurities and she instead points out her flaws which is something a person secure in herself might do. She is fine and feels fortunate to be on this nice trip which she expressed how thankful she was at the end of today's vlog. I think we get way out there by speculating with Bonnie and Ellie's body issues since we are not family or friends or knows how Bonnie grew up. I will leave it at that.HelloSweetie wrote:I think she's maybe made peace with her body, but is still not 100% secure about it.
She said she's insecure many times. I believe her. It would be amazing if she grew up the largest daughter in the Griffith's home and didn't have any lasting body issues because of it.
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Also did anyone else just fall in love with Bonnie again after her tearful appreciation?? This is the Bonnie I loved to watch!