2011MoreLiesFromVanessa (part 33)

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Yes thanks this was exactly my point , and who is to say davids mum won't be busy , she needs a life shop socialise possibly work and the like , she could be in the middle of a supermarket or in the gym , who knows her lifestyle,
All I know is my husband and I are like you said independent our business is ours , yes we both love our parents dearly, but they are not in our business nor us on theirs , we are adults not kids .
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tieruhhlynn wrote:
tieruhhlynn wrote:Okay so coming from a military spouse whose husband was gone for 13 weeks of basic we got snail mail info lol basically my husband took care of what he had to before he left, then I would get information from his training station through the mail. Everything I needed to know/do was in a large orange envelope that they mailed to me. I was only allowed to talk to my husband once in those 13 weeks for 10 minutes and he was able to give me the info I needed and still talk to his some for a good 6 minutes. What I'm not understanding is why the mother is apart of it, when Vanessa should be responsible enough to quickly get info and be able to do what she has to do. My question still remains the same... What is she going to do if he moves all the way across the state and she has nobody to help her? Considering David needs a lot of pushing I can see it being a huge strain on them in the future. They need to learn to solely rely on themselves. (I didn't watch the vlog and don't plan on it, I'm just going based on comments lol)
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Aaliyah_uk wrote:Yes thanks this was exactly my point , and who is to say davids mum won't be busy , she needs a life shop socialise possibly work and the like , she could be in the middle of a supermarket or in the gym , who knows her lifestyle,
All I know is my husband and I are like you said independent our business is ours , yes we both love our parents dearly, but they are not in our business nor us on theirs , we are adults not kids .
Well I think it's a matter of how confortable she was, from what I understood she was scared of messing up the collect of information because she is obviously not use to do that with having 2 kids ... maybe she would have been able to do it correctly like you do but she didn"t want to take that risk this first time. I can agree with the fact that eventually she will need to learn to take care of it herself but since it's the first time, i didn't think it was such a big deal... I have not problem criticizing when I feel like there is a reason but when I try to put myself in her place, I may have done the same thing at least the first time my partner had to leave in training. Also about the fact that maybe her mother would have been busy, For me it was discussed with her before (his son left for the military, I wouldn't be surprise she didn't mind to help and even wanted to, it was only a 5 minutes call and even if he is an adult, he will always be her child - at least that's how my mom see things and that's why it didn't bother me). Let's be clear that I totally respect your opinion and I understand what you mean and even partly agree, I just think that since it's the first time David is leaving we can cut V some slack about the fact David's mother helped but let's see what will happen next time ;)
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Can we stop with the milk drunk thing? I'm sure we are all guilty of saying it once or twice. Then there's Vanessa with her constant "MILK DRUNK" snaps.
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I just watched her last video and it made me think it must be really hard to be a single parent with young kids because there is noone to help supervise the kids when she has to focus on making dinner for instance and being alone with all responsibilies must be emotionally and physically exhausting ...
From what she said, this video is from 2 days after he left, I am very curious to see how she is going to adjust and take care of everything in a month when she normally will be more used to the situation.
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Aaliyah_uk wrote:No it wasn't the military she clearly said we decided, and she didn't say after a day or so she said the next call , and clearly didn't know when they'd be able to talk again , I know I have three kids but I'm very competent, and I am more than capable of taking down basic info regardless, in fact I work from home and deal with important info all the time smh, it's called multi tasking from what you say David obviously thought v wasn't up to the job which is crazy , us women deal with kids on a daily basis and it's part of life it certainly doesn't mean you still can't be responsible at least not in my world .
Ok well this isn't you, this is vanessa. You can jot down the info with your kids and your busy life, that's great. Vanessa and David decided to have his mom do that. End of story. Move the fuck on. Why are you dragging this out for pages.
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Iammrsnesbitt wrote:
Aaliyah_uk wrote:No it wasn't the military she clearly said we decided, and she didn't say after a day or so she said the next call , and clearly didn't know when they'd be able to talk again , I know I have three kids but I'm very competent, and I am more than capable of taking down basic info regardless, in fact I work from home and deal with important info all the time smh, it's called multi tasking from what you say David obviously thought v wasn't up to the job which is crazy , us women deal with kids on a daily basis and it's part of life it certainly doesn't mean you still can't be responsible at least not in my world .
Ok well this isn't you, this is vanessa. You can jot down the info with your kids and your busy life, that's great. Vanessa and David decided to have his mom do that. End of story. Move the fuck on. Why are you dragging this out for pages.
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I was simply replying to responses given to me , and this is a gossip site if you don't like speculating and gossip I suggest your in the wrong place and while your there maybe correct your filthy language.
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He's starting to look exactly like lily
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I personally wonder how much control David's Parents still have in his life. They encouraged him attend school, to which he did twice. They didn't want him moving out, so he didn't, for years. After years of the military "not being the right choice" for Vanessa and David, suddenly it is. His brother in the Military. They spend a great deal of time having family dinners, and most of their holiday's with David's family (yes they celebrate with Vanessa's family, but never on the day of, and yes Vanessa has a large extended family as well) I wouldn't be surprised if his mother taking the call, because she wanted to. I wonder if she planted the idea that Vanessa couldn't take the call. Convinced them it was best for her to do so. If so Vanessa needs to take control. She is the head of the household now. That is her husband, and the father of her children.

Vanessa needs to find her confidence and her voice. Being a Military wife, and mom to a child with Special needs means she is going to be the one going to the bat, often by herself to advocate for her child. Not only Lily, but in some cases Charlie. She can't allow herself to become so overwhelmed. She needs to put on her big panties.
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Snow White wrote:I personally wonder how much control David's Parents still have in his life. They encouraged him attend school, to which he did twice. They didn't want him moving out, so he didn't, for years. After years of the military "not being the right choice" for Vanessa and David, suddenly it is. His brother in the Military. They spend a great deal of time having family dinners, and most of their holiday's with David's family (yes they celebrate with Vanessa's family, but never on the day of, and yes Vanessa has a large extended family as well) I wouldn't be surprised if his mother taking the call, because she wanted to. I wonder if she planted the idea that Vanessa couldn't take the call. Convinced them it was best for her to do so. If so Vanessa needs to take control. She is the head of the household now. That is her husband, and the father of her children.

Vanessa needs to find her confidence and her voice. Being a Military wife, and mom to a child with Special needs means she is going to be the one going to the bat, often by herself to advocate for her child. Not only Lily, but in some cases Charlie. She can't allow herself to become so overwhelmed. She needs to put on her big panties.
That's a very interesting hypothesis ... Well let's see what is going to happen in the following weeks/ months! I really hope V will manage to deal with everything,as I said in previous posts, I am cutting her some slack right now because it's the first time David is leaving for training and it's the first week but she better takes control of everything, she has children so she has to.
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Aaliyah_uk wrote:I was simply replying to responses given to me , and this is a gossip site if you don't like speculating and gossip I suggest your in the wrong place and while your there maybe correct your filthy language.
Christ you really are militant about this.
Also, *you're
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I think with the whole phone call business, who the fuck knows. David's parents are definitely very pushy and controlling so they couldve made the decision that his mum would take the call. Vanessa could be feeling overwhelmed with everything and WANT his mum to take the call. David might want to talk to his mum for the call so he's not speaking to his wife as that might make him emotional and unsettle him. Who the heck knows. There's going to be backlash no matter what the reason is


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I've only just watched his one month update and I can't believe how she isn't supporting his head! Going on about his head control and then just letting him bob around from side to side, it's making me nervous watching her with him! A bit like when she carries him in the crook of her arm but he always seems to be so far away from her body? I don't know... Also I don't like the clothes she dresses him in, I know it's harder to find cute boys clothes compared to girls but I just don't like anything she's shown him in..


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SweetAsANutMate wrote:
Aaliyah_uk wrote:I was simply replying to responses given to me , and this is a gossip site if you don't like speculating and gossip I suggest your in the wrong place and while your there maybe correct your filthy language.
Christ you really are militant about this.
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Not at all , it's called having a discussion about different viewpoints, you know like adults do , and incidentally what this site was created for , i.e for people to discuss differing opinions.

From what I've seen you're the only one who was rude or using profanity, so please don't pin your issues onto me that's just juvenile.
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I just kind of assumed David's mom would take the call because she has done this before. (Isn't his brother in the military?) She knows it's not a personal call and it's just factual. Maybe they decided it might be too emotional for David and Vanessa to have that conversation and want to talk about something else.
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Is lily old enough to take the bus? I don't know about their area but where I am, kids in kinder can get bused. That would be so much easier for Vanessa, especially with David being gone.
She's very clearly having a tough time (I don't blame her, it's hard), but If lily could take the bus, imagine how much time that would save for her.
Maybe she wants to be that mom that does it all, and makes it hard for herself just to prove herself. She seems like the type


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Well Davids job will likely move them to a different state at some point where she will indefinitely be on her own, she might as well start doing it herself now.

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Midia wrote:
tieruhhlynn wrote:
tieruhhlynn wrote:Okay so coming from a military spouse whose husband was gone for 13 weeks of basic we got snail mail info lol basically my husband took care of what he had to before he left, then I would get information from his training station through the mail. Everything I needed to know/do was in a large orange envelope that they mailed to me. I was only allowed to talk to my husband once in those 13 weeks for 10 minutes and he was able to give me the info I needed and still talk to his some for a good 6 minutes. What I'm not understanding is why the mother is apart of it, when Vanessa should be responsible enough to quickly get info and be able to do what she has to do. My question still remains the same... What is she going to do if he moves all the way across the state and she has nobody to help her? Considering David needs a lot of pushing I can see it being a huge strain on them in the future. They need to learn to solely rely on themselves. (I didn't watch the vlog and don't plan on it, I'm just going based on comments lol)
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Aaliyah_uk wrote:Yes thanks this was exactly my point , and who is to say davids mum won't be busy , she needs a life shop socialise possibly work and the like , she could be in the middle of a supermarket or in the gym , who knows her lifestyle,
All I know is my husband and I are like you said independent our business is ours , yes we both love our parents dearly, but they are not in our business nor us on theirs , we are adults not kids .
Well I think it's a matter of how confortable she was, from what I understood she was scared of messing up the collect of information because she is obviously not use to do that with having 2 kids ... maybe she would have been able to do it correctly like you do but she didn"t want to take that risk this first time. I can agree with the fact that eventually she will need to learn to take care of it herself but since it's the first time, i didn't think it was such a big deal... I have not problem criticizing when I feel like there is a reason but when I try to put myself in her place, I may have done the same thing at least the first time my partner had to leave in training. Also about the fact that maybe her mother would have been busy, For me it was discussed with her before (his son left for the military, I wouldn't be surprise she didn't mind to help and even wanted to, it was only a 5 minutes call and even if he is an adult, he will always be her child - at least that's how my mom see things and that's why it didn't bother me). Let's be clear that I totally respect your opinion and I understand what you mean and even partly agree, I just think that since it's the first time David is leaving we can cut V some slack about the fact David's mother helped but let's see what will happen next time ;)
I guess since I was only 19, with a child I see it differently... I literally did everything myself as soon as my hubs left. Then moving overseas I was more prepared to actually take care of everything on my own. That's the only reason why I think she should've started taking care of things on her own, because if I had my family helping me I'd have no idea what to do now with my husband leaving again, especially since I have no family here and they're 5,000 miles away lol
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Snow White wrote:I personally wonder how much control David's Parents still have in his life. They encouraged him attend school, to which he did twice. They didn't want him moving out, so he didn't, for years. After years of the military "not being the right choice" for Vanessa and David, suddenly it is. His brother in the Military. They spend a great deal of time having family dinners, and most of their holiday's with David's family (yes they celebrate with Vanessa's family, but never on the day of, and yes Vanessa has a large extended family as well) I wouldn't be surprised if his mother taking the call, because she wanted to. I wonder if she planted the idea that Vanessa couldn't take the call. Convinced them it was best for her to do so. If so Vanessa needs to take control. She is the head of the household now. That is her husband, and the father of her children.

Vanessa needs to find her confidence and her voice. Being a Military wife, and mom to a child with Special needs means she is going to be the one going to the bat, often by herself to advocate for her child. Not only Lily, but in some cases Charlie. She can't allow herself to become so overwhelmed. She needs to put on her big panties.
This brings me back to the comment I made on how he had other options before military but didn't want them and probably wanted something new in his life. But someone bashed me for saying he got bored. Many of us have watched V for a long time. I've watched her since lily was 6 months and she's shared a lot of personal details on how their life has unfolded. David has never really been independent so who knows maybe this is way of getting out of the family rut and seeing what he's made of.


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