E+E - We Did Nothing Wrong! Part 21

[tnchk1187]

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[Pency]

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The app on the top left (second row) is pregnancy +. Doesn't mean she's pregnant, I'm sure she just left it installed from her last pregnancy. Anybody know what that app is with the green baby?

[HelloSweetie]

Even if E&J aren't "trying" they aren't preventing which is essentially trying. Lets not forget that Ellie and Jared NTNP'd the first couple of years of marriage, but considered that time having tried when they didn't end up pregnant right away after actually "trying."

As someone that's struggled with IF, that's one of my pet peeves. If you aren't preventing a pregnancy, you're trying to get pregnant.

[tnchk1187]

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The app on the top left (second row) is pregnancy +. Doesn't mean she's pregnant, I'm sure she just left it installed from her last pregnancy. Anybody know what that app is with the green baby?

I'm pretty sure they recently got new phones and she'd had to re upload it right ? I've used similar to track fertility don't know if that one does.


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[sun88]

Definitely a pregnancy app on her phone


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Nice catch! Well..I thought they wanted two and then a break and then another set of two? But who knows...

[ewokfan11]

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The app on the top left (second row) is pregnancy +. Doesn't mean she's pregnant, I'm sure she just left it installed from her last pregnancy. Anybody know what that app is with the green baby?

I'm pretty sure they recently got new phones and she'd had to re upload it right ? I've used similar to track fertility don't know if that one does.


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No, I just got my new iPhone on Monday and all my old apps transferred over. I'm sure she just never deleted it.

[actuallydear]

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The app on the top left (second row) is pregnancy +. Doesn't mean she's pregnant, I'm sure she just left it installed from her last pregnancy. Anybody know what that app is with the green baby?

green app is Nurse Me, next to that is Baby Feed.

Interesting to see that they're on the second page of homescreens. I dunno abut you but the apps on my first and second page are the ones I use very frequently.

[HelloSweetie]

The app on the top left (second row) is pregnancy +. Doesn't mean she's pregnant, I'm sure she just left it installed from her last pregnancy. Anybody know what that app is with the green baby?

I'm pretty sure they recently got new phones and she'd had to re upload it right ? I've used similar to track fertility don't know if that one does.


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No, I just got my new iPhone on Monday and all my old apps transferred over. I'm sure she just never deleted it.

You don't go from the mindset of struggling with fertility, to just not caring.

If she isn't on birth control, I guarantee she's still tracking her cycles to try and reassure herself things could happen naturally again next time.

[Pency]

You don't go from the mindset of struggling with fertility, to just not caring.

If she isn't on birth control, I guarantee she's still tracking her cycles to try and reassure herself things could happen naturally again next time.

I would be surprised if she isn't tracking her cycles - nearly every woman I know of baby bearing age does, but what strikes me as funny is that none of those apps are actually cycle tracking apps. Pregnancy + is about baby development and the other two are nursing apps. Of course that doesn't mean she isn't. I would just think they would all be in close proximity to one another.

[RecklessDisregard]

I feel like we're being trolled, lol. In today's vlog, Jackson is on the floor with Ellie's iPhone, talking on speakerphone to Grandma Griff about his gymnastics class. Then Calvin toddles into the frame and takes over, clutching at the phone and babbling. You can hear Jackson quietly say "No, Calvin" a few times, then Calvin disconnects the call. Ellie doesn't do anything to correct him, just seems amused by his antics and carries on talking about her stained couch or whatever.

I just don't get it. With little ones that age, every interaction is a teaching moment. And I can't even say she neglects to use those teaching moments - because she is (maybe inadvertently) teaching both boys that Cal is king of the Ice Palace.

Over a year ago, people here were questioning things Ellie said and did which implied that Calvin was "special" or maybe had a serious health issue that they just don't care to discuss on YT. More serious than torticollis or "reflux," I mean. Sometimes I still wonder about this. If I had a terminally ill child, it's true that I wouldn't want to spend the time I had with him correcting his behavior and such. It's really the only excuse I can think of for E+J's behavior. Yet there is no real indication that anything is seriously wrong. His energy levels are normal, he's a good eater, etc. He's a little small, but E+J are small people who make small babies. IDK, just something that crossed my mind.

[HelloSweetie]

I feel like we're being trolled, lol. In today's vlog, Jackson is on the floor with Ellie's iPhone, talking on speakerphone to Grandma Griff about his gymnastics class. Then Calvin toddles into the frame and takes over, clutching at the phone and babbling. You can hear Jackson quietly say "No, Calvin" a few times, then Calvin disconnects the call. Ellie doesn't do anything to correct him, just seems amused by his antics and carries on talking about her stained couch or whatever.

I just don't get it. With little ones that age, every interaction is a teaching moment. And I can't even say she neglects to use those teaching moments - because she is (maybe inadvertently) teaching both boys that Cal is king of the Ice Palace.

Over a year ago, people here were questioning things Ellie said and did which implied that Calvin was "special" or maybe had a serious health issue that they just don't care to discuss on YT. More serious than torticollis or "reflux," I mean. Sometimes I still wonder about this. If I had a terminally ill child, it's true that I wouldn't want to spend the time I had with him correcting his behavior and such. It's really the only excuse I can think of for E+J's behavior. Yet there is no real indication that anything is seriously wrong. His energy levels are normal, he's a good eater, etc. He's a little small, but E+J are small people who make small babies. IDK, just something that crossed my mind.

If Ellie were the mother of a seriously ill child (through no fault of her own) then trust me, she would want the world to know!

I think she's just the mother of one special snowflake and one scapegoat.

[natalka81]

E&J seem to have replied to every second comment or so on their vlog today. That seems very unusual to me...

[menehune]

I feel like we're being trolled, lol. In today's vlog, Jackson is on the floor with Ellie's iPhone, talking on speakerphone to Grandma Griff about his gymnastics class. Then Calvin toddles into the frame and takes over, clutching at the phone and babbling. You can hear Jackson quietly say "No, Calvin" a few times, then Calvin disconnects the call. Ellie doesn't do anything to correct him, just seems amused by his antics and carries on talking about her stained couch or whatever.

I just don't get it. With little ones that age, every interaction is a teaching moment. And I can't even say she neglects to use those teaching moments - because she is (maybe inadvertently) teaching both boys that Cal is king of the Ice Palace.

Over a year ago, people here were questioning things Ellie said and did which implied that Calvin was "special" or maybe had a serious health issue that they just don't care to discuss on YT. More serious than torticollis or "reflux," I mean. Sometimes I still wonder about this. If I had a terminally ill child, it's true that I wouldn't want to spend the time I had with him correcting his behavior and such. It's really the only excuse I can think of for E+J's behavior. Yet there is no real indication that anything is seriously wrong. His energy levels are normal, he's a good eater, etc. He's a little small, but E+J are small people who make small babies. IDK, just something that crossed my mind.

If Ellie were the mother of a seriously ill child (through no fault of her own) then trust me, she would want the world to know!

I think she's just the mother of one special snowflake and one scapegoat.

I agree. Textbook narcissism....

FAVORITISM & SCAPEGOATING

How Favoritism looks in the home

A parent systematically singles out one child for special gifts or attention which never get offered to their siblings.
A parent regularly withholds discipline or undesirable responsibilities such as chores from one child in the family.
A parent routinely speaks more positively to one child or about one child above the rest of their children.

What Scapegoating in the Home Looks Like

A parent who systematically singles out one child for blame when things go wrong in the family.
A parent who punishes one child more severely than their siblings.
A parent who assigns undesirable responsibilities and chores etc. to just one child in the family.
A parent who routinely speaks more negatively to or about one child in the family.
A parent who refuses to intervene or take notice when other siblings bully, hurt or abuse one child in the family.

From this website: http://outofthefog.website/top-100-trai ... favoritism

[whys0seri0us]

I. Can. Not. Stand. Ellie.

I know people hate the bumps but I would rather be forced to watch them over and over again then have to watch Ellie.

If it was one of the kids, or should I say Jackson, that ruined her couch she would be freaking out.

Also the whole vacuum scene was terrible. Absolutely terrible. Jackson will start acting out very soon if he hasn't already.

Sibling rivalry is normal, but they are feeding it but favoring Calvin so damn much.


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[YouTubeIdiots101]

Of course she always has to defend herself and precious CAL. Why is it that Jackson's things are Jackson's & Calvins (mainly Cals) and Calvin's things are strictly his and Jackson can't play with them? If she's telling the truth, that doesn't excuse why she couldn't have told Calvin to share and let Jackson finish playing with it. Always getting his way. Also I like how it took her 21 hours to reply to this, and I'm sure she had many other replies in between but she had to prove her point.

[Boredomatitsfinest]

Sorry - meant to post this yesterday! Directly after Jackson (under enemy control) gave Calvin the vacuum:

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His sweet little face breaks my heart. It reads, clear as day, how badly he wants his Mama's approval :/ bless his heart.

[MommaLindsey2]

On a happier note john and Joan one of the "winning" Ivf couples started injections.



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[winniewise]

Sorry - meant to post this yesterday! Directly after Jackson (under enemy control) gave Calvin the vacuum:

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His sweet little face breaks my heart. It reads, clear as day, how badly he wants his Mama's approval :/ bless his heart.

Calvin was an absolute jerk after being given the vacuum too! He followed Jackson and started hitting his feet with the vacuum.

[tratra58]

Of course she always has to defend herself and precious CAL. Why is it that Jackson's things are Jackson's & Calvins (mainly Cals) and Calvin's things are strictly his and Jackson can't play with them? If she's telling the truth, that doesn't excuse why she couldn't have told Calvin to share and let Jackson finish playing with it. Always getting his way. Also I like how it took her 21 hours to reply to this, and I'm sure she had many other replies in between but she had to prove her point.

Yikes...I would never think to ask her directly.

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[Pency]

Of course she always has to defend herself and precious CAL. Why is it that Jackson's things are Jackson's & Calvins (mainly Cals) and Calvin's things are strictly his and Jackson can't play with them? If she's telling the truth, that doesn't excuse why she couldn't have told Calvin to share and let Jackson finish playing with it. Always getting his way. Also I like how it took her 21 hours to reply to this, and I'm sure she had many other replies in between but she had to prove her point.

Yikes...I would never think to ask her directly.

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Yeahhh...I don't really understand the point of that, honestly. I mean, I'm not assuming that person came from here, but it seems mighty suspicious considering it's been the topic of conversation for days. It just gives Ellie more "hater" fuel. She'll never admit fault.