mrogaan wrote:the notion that the lack of big discussion around the hoelleins' safety issues is because of repetition or redundancy doesn't hold up to me considering how discussions about certain irritating/bad things with other vloggers can go on for months without dying out. i think the reason for it is that a number of people here genuinely like bonnie and joel and prefer not to engage in conversations that rip them apart, and many other people note things they dislike about b+j while still liking them as people.
there isn't as much outrage here because most posters don't hate them as much as other vloggers with much more repetitive threads are hated. so when someone brings up an issue (like the lack of car safety) here that would turn into a pages-long appalled discussion on the thread of a thoroughly disliked vlogger, there aren't enough outraged people to keep the conversation going. lots of people would prefer not to get deep into criticizing b+j because they like them, whatever. we all cut people we like some slack sometimes.
not trying to offend anybody with this post, i just think it's silly and wrong to say that people usually don't discuss b+j's wrongdoings at length because it's repetitive, when that is demonstrably not the case on any thread of a vlogger who is less generally liked than b+j. i think it'd be better for us to be real and admit that the smaller amount of criticism here is because of b+j being liked by many participants of this board. you can even see the same pattern if you go back to the early days of e+j's board when many people still liked them: someone brings up a problem with the vlogger, a few people agree with how wrong it is, and the discussion fizzles out because most people aren't invested enough in criticizing them to keep it going. it's not even necessarily a bad thing, it's just how it is.
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While I do agree with you and think this is a very good observation, I think there is another factor that contributes to the lack of discussion. The things that seem to go on for pages on other vloggers threads that Bonnie might go unnoticed for, tend to be topics that can be expanded upon more so than car seat safety.
I think the ear piercing incident is a good example. That went on for pages and pages because it facilitated thought provoking discussion. We could agree or disagree with Bonnie, say why, speak of examples, subtopics. Car seat safety (or lack of) isn't really a thought provoking topic. And, I think for the most part, we all agree on it whether we like Bonnie or not. And, when we all have the same opinion and relatively same views, there's only so much that can be said.
I really hope I don't come off as doing exactly what you're talking about; defending Bonnie/turning a blind eye while I harp on other vloggers for more trivial things, haha, because again, while I completely agree with what you said, I think this topic in particular leaves us with less to talk about without repeating the same things over and over.
