OKBaby vs. KKandBabyJ
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Another thing to keep in mind, or that I've heard anyways is that boys tend to be slower when it comes to their speech? I have a 17 month old son who doesn't say words but "talks" a lot and follows direction very well! He says ya, mama and dada but if he isn't saying simple words in the next few months I will be looking into some kind of speech therapy. I'd hope Keren would be willing to do the same for the sake of Jackson. I literally cringe seeing that damn binky in his mouth.
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I'm new to Kkandbabyj so sorry if this has been discussed before but, Jackson doesn't seem to make eye contact very much, if at all. From the few vlogs I've seen he doesn't look people in the eyes/face, even when being talked to or played with. He also moves his head and looks around a lot, like when being carried through the house and Keren was talking, Jackson was looking all over the house and floor and was never interested in her speaking. You can really see a difference with Levi, he holds eye contact and observes faces of people. He keeps focus on things and people for longer and holds his head still. Apart from the lack of sound Jackson makes, this was the next obvious difference I spotted straight away.
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Does Jackson even smile? He seems so emotionless compared to Levi? Even his eyes seem blank.
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Keren mentioned in a vlog that he used to never smile or laugh for her...IF he does smile or laugh..it's very short lived.missy-1010 wrote:Does Jackson even smile? He seems so emotionless compared to Levi? Even his eyes seem blank.
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My doctor said when a kid under the age of 3 is out in front of technology for over 2 hours a day don't know how to communicate or show feelings because they're are so flat in front of the tv...ACarATorchAJess wrote:Keren mentioned in a vlog that he used to never smile or laugh for her...IF he does smile or laugh..it's very short lived.missy-1010 wrote:Does Jackson even smile? He seems so emotionless compared to Levi? Even his eyes seem blank.
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Also it wouldn't surprise me if Jackson needs glasses from being in front of technology for so long
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I don't think Jackson not actually saying words is a concern... what's concerning is he doesn't seem to try to communicate. Like mentioned many times I feel like he isn't challenged or stimulated enough. He's just home all day. Spends no time with other kids, no toddler classes, library, literally nothing. I honestly don't watch their vlogs a ton though because they're so boring.
Levi I feel like has more going on in his head. He seems to understand more and just get out more overall. I think that's been really beneficial to his development. Despite the disorganization of their life, OK have made many more efforts to expose and challenge Levi.
Hard to say of course, I don't know either child personally and they're different kids but just seeing no effort on the part of KK to stimulate/challenge J definitely has a big impact on his development.
I also think that Levi just has more personality. He has a sense of humor, he just does more. At least that's what I've observed lately.
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Levi I feel like has more going on in his head. He seems to understand more and just get out more overall. I think that's been really beneficial to his development. Despite the disorganization of their life, OK have made many more efforts to expose and challenge Levi.
Hard to say of course, I don't know either child personally and they're different kids but just seeing no effort on the part of KK to stimulate/challenge J definitely has a big impact on his development.
I also think that Levi just has more personality. He has a sense of humor, he just does more. At least that's what I've observed lately.
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It's crazy how much KK have fallen behind in terms of keeping up with J's development. I don't want to speculate about what diseases he may or may not have cuz I think it's quite rude to just brand an innocent baby as "autistic" just because his parents don't keep up with his development. If he has only fallen behind on his development because his parents don't realize what theyre doing wrong I think I would be sad if J looking back when he's older and finding that people used to speculate about him being autistic. I feel like some people are bashing him on here but you have to remember none of this is his fault and I feel angry towards KK for putting him out there on the internet like that daily, I know its hypocritical to say that and still watch them but the last thing I'd want if I had issues when I was 1 and a half is to see that it was all documented on the internet in front of thousands of people. And I feel bad for them I just wish someone would say something, like that they have to try harder to get him to interact and keep the paci out of his mouth, that he could be happier and thriving like L from OKbaby.. I'm not a parent yet but it's so obvious that they don't talk to him enough, don't play with him in ways that could stimulate his intellect/linguistic development, READ TO HIM and point out the words and the images which is so important but I feel like they are thinking that he doesn't need that yet..and most importantly he needs more contact with the outside world and be taken to playgrounds and activities..It's weird because they used to be better than OKbaby with that stuff, like OKbaby didn't have age-appropriate toys for a long time and when KK and J came over to Utah I remember they brought him some toy and L was loving it. I feel like Kyra used to be so depressed and it was sad how people on here used to call her "Greaseball" but at the same time she had a bad attitude, like when people said Oscar shouldn't bait L off the bed (vlog "baby falls off bed headfirst" or something like that) and then she ranted on twitter how haters were making her feel like she didn't love her son, basically lashing out all the "haters" when some people were just saying constructive, well-meant advice.. But now Keren is worse, with her attitude and stubborness. Anyway sorry for the super long post, I'm sure they'll all be okay in the long run but it's just crazy to me that KK have shown such bad judgement, because I used to see them as more mature. I think Keren is just super stubborn and Khoa is just a bit clueless with this stuff, like he said he raised his younger siblings and I think that he thinks he knows everything because of that, I don't see KK looking up toddler development and milestones. I would love to send them parenting books lol.
It's crazy how much KK have fallen behind in terms of keeping up with J's development. I don't want to speculate about what diseases he may or may not have cuz I think it's quite rude to just brand an innocent baby as "autistic" just because his parents don't keep up with his development. If he has only fallen behind on his development because his parents don't realize what theyre doing wrong I think I would be sad if J looking back when he's older and finding that people used to speculate about him being autistic. I feel like some people are bashing him on here but you have to remember none of this is his fault and I feel angry towards KK for putting him out there on the internet like that daily, I know its hypocritical to say that and still watch them but the last thing I'd want if I had issues when I was 1 and a half is to see that it was all documented on the internet in front of thousands of people. And I feel bad for them I just wish someone would say something, like that they have to try harder to get him to interact and keep the paci out of his mouth, that he could be happier and thriving like L from OKbaby.. I'm not a parent yet but it's so obvious that they don't talk to him enough, don't play with him in ways that could stimulate his intellect/linguistic development, READ TO HIM and point out the words and the images which is so important but I feel like they are thinking that he doesn't need that yet..and most importantly he needs more contact with the outside world and be taken to playgrounds and activities..It's weird because they used to be better than OKbaby with that stuff, like OKbaby didn't have age-appropriate toys for a long time and when KK and J came over to Utah I remember they brought him some toy and L was loving it. I feel like Kyra used to be so depressed and it was sad how people on here used to call her "Greaseball" but at the same time she had a bad attitude, like when people said Oscar shouldn't bait L off the bed (vlog "baby falls off bed headfirst" or something like that) and then she ranted on twitter how haters were making her feel like she didn't love her son, basically lashing out all the "haters" when some people were just saying constructive, well-meant advice.. But now Keren is worse, with her attitude and stubborness. Anyway sorry for the super long post, I'm sure they'll all be okay in the long run but it's just crazy to me that KK have shown such bad judgement, because I used to see them as more mature. I think Keren is just super stubborn and Khoa is just a bit clueless with this stuff, like he said he raised his younger siblings and I think that he thinks he knows everything because of that, I don't see KK looking up toddler development and milestones. I would love to send them parenting books lol.
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I'm just gonna say this...there's nothing wrong with being autistic or being on the spectrum. If J is, that would be okay. I myself am on the spectrum and get through life just fine. You make it seem like it's the plague. Also we aren't bashing either kid.
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THANK YOU! Absolutely nothing wrong with being on the spectrum. Its nothing to be ashamed of. If he is on it I hope they get him the extra help he deserves.ACarATorchAJess wrote:I'm just gonna say this...there's nothing wrong with being autistic or being on the spectrum. If J is, that would be okay. I myself am on the spectrum and get through life just fine. You make it seem like it's the plague. Also we aren't bashing either kid.
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Yes you guys are right I didn't mean to imply that it would be bad if he is on the spectrum, I also realize it is a spectrum and I was wrong to use the word "disease". I just don't understand why KK don't educate themselves. However I don't feel right speaking about J seeming "emotionless" I don't think that is a kind thing to say about a toddler, who is actually a sweet kid who smiles and looks for affection. He smiles every time Khoa comes home, and you can tell he loves him. Also talking about his teeth like his life is ruined, like he will be okay, it's a shame that happened because of Kerens stupid decision but there are worse things. But I don't want to start a debate about what's off-limits on a gossip site. All I meant to say is that J is quite bright and still has loads of potential and I hope to see him flourish soon.
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so i stumbled upon this video of a new momma and the contrast between her and OK and KK is INSANE! She looks like she follows safe sleeping guidelines and she cleans and changes her baby and pays attention to him/engages him and he's a newborn-- like she should! there really is no excuse for why keren or kyra dont do this!
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yeah, I agree. quick story, I actually depended on my soother (pacifier) until I was about 4 or 5. I didn't suck it as much as I was older, and my parents were trying to break me and my sister off of it, but still. I know, bad habit, but I was a kid. and guess what? it didn't effect my teeth. I had overcrowding and ended up needing braces, but that's all genetic and stuff my parents and others in my family went through. not saying that he should depend on the pacifier and it might effect him different but let it go lolnugnugget wrote:Yes you guys are right I didn't mean to imply that it would be bad if he is on the spectrum, I also realize it is a spectrum and I was wrong to use the word "disease". I just don't understand why KK don't educate themselves. However I don't feel right speaking about J seeming "emotionless" I don't think that is a kind thing to say about a toddler, who is actually a sweet kid who smiles and looks for affection. He smiles every time Khoa comes home, and you can tell he loves him. Also talking about his teeth like his life is ruined, like he will be okay, it's a shame that happened because of Kerens stupid decision but there are worse things. But I don't want to start a debate about what's off-limits on a gossip site. All I meant to say is that J is quite bright and still has loads of potential and I hope to see him flourish soon.
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Haha I think Kyra actually watches her so let's hope she realizes there's some things she's urgently got to work on.soul_in_a_earthsuit wrote:so i stumbled upon this video of a new momma and the contrast between her and OK and KK is INSANE! She looks like she follows safe sleeping guidelines and she cleans and changes her baby and pays attention to him/engages him and he's a newborn-- like she should! there really is no excuse for why keren or kyra dont do this!
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to do nothing and sit on her butt eating chick fil a everyday and then go to target and shop. lol but really..i think she just went to college and did the bare minimum (degree she wont ever use ---an associates which is just 2 years) just bc all her friends seem to have been in college and she didnt want to be considered a failure or odd one out. i think she wants to stay at home and pop out kidsACarATorchAJess wrote:A lot of people say that Kyra should get a degree...buuuutttt Keren apparently has one and seems just as uneducated. Keren seems to be okay with not doing anything with her life, but there's glimmers of hope in Kyra..maybe..she talks about wanting to be a teacher or work with kids. Does anyone know if Keren has a "dream"? I don't follow her to know anything..
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I agree his eyes do seem glazed over and he looks at things without a seeming purpose or comprehensionmissy-1010 wrote:Does Jackson even smile? He seems so emotionless compared to Levi? Even his eyes seem blank.
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totally agree! I think reading and pointing things out is so important! the very rare occasions where khoa reads to jackson jackson never was paying attention or looking at the book as khoa was reading. He'd be shrieking and chirping and running around his room. They need to sit him down and interact and talk with him/to him not AT him. Reading books doesnt do anything if the baby isnt engaged too! That would just be like jackson hearing his parents talking about something but he is not engaged.nugnugget wrote:Hi long-time lurker, new poster here..
It's crazy how much KK have fallen behind in terms of keeping up with J's development. I don't want to speculate about what diseases he may or may not have cuz I think it's quite rude to just brand an innocent baby as "autistic" just because his parents don't keep up with his development. If he has only fallen behind on his development because his parents don't realize what theyre doing wrong I think I would be sad if J looking back when he's older and finding that people used to speculate about him being autistic. I feel like some people are bashing him on here but you have to remember none of this is his fault and I feel angry towards KK for putting him out there on the internet like that daily, I know its hypocritical to say that and still watch them but the last thing I'd want if I had issues when I was 1 and a half is to see that it was all documented on the internet in front of thousands of people. And I feel bad for them I just wish someone would say something, like that they have to try harder to get him to interact and keep the paci out of his mouth, that he could be happier and thriving like L from OKbaby.. I'm not a parent yet but it's so obvious that they don't talk to him enough, don't play with him in ways that could stimulate his intellect/linguistic development, READ TO HIM and point out the words and the images which is so important but I feel like they are thinking that he doesn't need that yet..and most importantly he needs more contact with the outside world and be taken to playgrounds and activities..It's weird because they used to be better than OKbaby with that stuff, like OKbaby didn't have age-appropriate toys for a long time and when KK and J came over to Utah I remember they brought him some toy and L was loving it. I feel like Kyra used to be so depressed and it was sad how people on here used to call her "Greaseball" but at the same time she had a bad attitude, like when people said Oscar shouldn't bait L off the bed (vlog "baby falls off bed headfirst" or something like that) and then she ranted on twitter how haters were making her feel like she didn't love her son, basically lashing out all the "haters" when some people were just saying constructive, well-meant advice.. But now Keren is worse, with her attitude and stubborness. Anyway sorry for the super long post, I'm sure they'll all be okay in the long run but it's just crazy to me that KK have shown such bad judgement, because I used to see them as more mature. I think Keren is just super stubborn and Khoa is just a bit clueless with this stuff, like he said he raised his younger siblings and I think that he thinks he knows everything because of that, I don't see KK looking up toddler development and milestones. I would love to send them parenting books lol.
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Omggg. Kyras most recent snap shows Levi with a soother pacifier in his mouth...
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My mom read to my sister and I when we were NEWBORNS. We were in daycare at an early age (I was about 2 when I started)
We were never dependent on soothers, we were dependent on our baby blankets (which isn't as bad)
Anyway, my sister and I both ended up having high school reading levels in early elementary. I read my first chapter book in kindergarten (it was a Mona the Vampire one, but still)
Both these families need to take away the pacifiers and bottles and freakin read to the kids in a meaningful way, and get them out to socialize like holy.
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We were never dependent on soothers, we were dependent on our baby blankets (which isn't as bad)
Anyway, my sister and I both ended up having high school reading levels in early elementary. I read my first chapter book in kindergarten (it was a Mona the Vampire one, but still)
Both these families need to take away the pacifiers and bottles and freakin read to the kids in a meaningful way, and get them out to socialize like holy.
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I agree he isn't very expressive with his face... not sure if it's just him? Or what? Levi is so expressive and seems so connected socially. Jackson doesn't.soul_in_a_earthsuit wrote:I agree his eyes do seem glazed over and he looks at things without a seeming purpose or comprehensionmissy-1010 wrote:Does Jackson even smile? He seems so emotionless compared to Levi? Even his eyes seem blank.
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