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I don't understand how everyone is taking up for Javi on this one. He was controlling and jealous through their whole relationship and blamed her for having a miscarriage. Their problems started before he left and they split. They both did some shit. He's disrespectful as hell, shows up with his friends to start trouble when she said she wasn't home in front of the kids. Verbally attacks her every chance he gets. He's abusive but she's getting shit and everyone talking bout how she's a shit mother. I don't know how everyone isn't questioning a guy who clearly has no respect for women, is incredibly butthurt, and acting out like a teenage boy. Double standards from hell.
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marshmellow wrote:Anybody else is pissed at all these teen moms doing sponsored shit ? Who the fuck do they think they are lol. All those nasty looking muscle shakes and.. what ? a carseat canopy ? lol idiots.
Yeah I was about to post about that very subject glad someone else beat me to it. The Car seat canopy company are a bunch of scammers. I purchased one for my sister (I didn't have a code) and a nursing cover as well (again no code). They over charge for shipping the nursing cover comes in a small plastic bag the size of a pillowcase and they charge you $10 shipping. The material is cheap and no amount of fabric softener will soften it and it's very see through. They claim it's the shipping but let's face it They charge $10 and still make a profit on the product and pay for shipping what does that say about the product.
And the car seat canopy too, my sister washed it once and the ink came out of the material. I called the company and they are rude and have the worst customer service ever. They refused to do anything because it had been opened and it had been more than 30 days since I ordered it (but it took FOREVER to arrive). Get this, they said I wouldn't want another customer to receive my defective item! What?!?! How in the world does that even make sense.
So now they have DC comics and NFL prints which they DO NOT have permission to use. They lie on Instagram and say they do but I've been told by the NFL's copyright department they were not given permission to use NFL or NFL teams. And their going after them.
And their harassing me on Instagram.
Now their using copyrighted
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marshmellow wrote:This is so lame. Wasn't the topic of a 3rd baby the ultimatum to their marriage ? Now she is having a third baby with God knows who. She wasn't confident to have a baby with someone who she was married to and known so long but went ahead and got knocked up with a new dude. Very smart Kail, makes a lot of sense. I wonder which guy wants to be around her. She is so cold, unemotional and a total selfish bitch. Well good luck Mr.Mystery man, you are in for a lot of fun. All these girls can ever do is pop out kids which they bring up on welfare. So no surprises here. It is sad that following every break up they need to find a dick and get knocked up only to keep their place in the series. Bloody welfare leeches.
I a have to agree with most of what you said. Kailyn seriously needs some help. While her husband was no prize how she acts isn't any better. And getting pregnant again is not keeping their place on the show. Some of the girls haven't had other children yet. So obviously that doesn't keep their place on the show. I suspect the baby's father is the same guy whom Javi got in a fight with. I can't blame Kail for it all she didn't have the greatest upbringing. Her mom is a constant drunk who can't be depended on and her father moved to Texas pretty much abandoning her. And none of the girls are on welfare. None of them qualify for welfare because MTV pays them. They make about $30k+ per season and there's 2 seasons a year.
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lonelysoul wrote:I don't understand how everyone is taking up for Javi on this one. He was controlling and jealous through their whole relationship and blamed her for having a miscarriage. Their problems started before he left and they split. They both did some shit. He's disrespectful as hell, shows up with his friends to start trouble when she said she wasn't home in front of the kids. Verbally attacks her every chance he gets. He's abusive but she's getting shit and everyone talking bout how she's a shit mother. I don't know how everyone isn't questioning a guy who clearly has no respect for women, is incredibly butthurt, and acting out like a teenage boy. Double standards from hell.
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I agree with you. My sister's husband is just like him. He makes everyone's lives hell. I'll spare you the crap he's done through the years. She now lives with me and her daughter. While Kailyn's behavior doesn't help matters. My ex blamed me for my children's stillbirths. When I mentioned about trying again he was like what you want to bury another one. He knew how to use words to break my heart.
I totally blame Javi for that incident. There was no reason for him to be there anf he has no boundaries. The marriage broke up while he was away and she found herself a new life.
I have to laugh about what someone said earlier claiming the girls had to keep having babies to stay on the show. Ok Farrah and Amber didn't have yet to have more kids and their still on the show. And then there's the welfare comment. Do you seriously think they could live that well, make as much money, drive the cars they do and have the homes they do on welfare? No way. And if they were and were frauding the system tv would be the last place I'd be. And the $60k a year that's per person. Not per family. I don't think they pay the kids I could be wrong.
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Sorry- I don't blame Javi with his behaviour in the end. Kail is a serial cheater and likes to crucify herself. She cheated on Jo, bf Jordan and Javi while he was deployed. She married him for benefits and got bored. He's no prize either and I'm a little smug he's getting treated just like how he treated Jo but Kail is an asshole.
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[quote="Yue195"]Sorry- I don't blame Javi with his behaviour in the end. Kail is a serial cheater and likes to crucify herself. She cheated on Jo, bf Jordan and Javi while he was deployed. She married him for benefits and got bored. He's no prize either and I'm a little smug he's getting treated just like how he treated Jo but Kail is an asshole.[/
As far as Javi, they pretty much broke up when he left and started divorce proceedings while he was away. Not to mention all the crap he put her through. Jordan was with another girl most of the time he was with Kail and he gave her an sts. I never saw her cheat on jo either. They broke up while she was living in his moms house which left little for cheating. Plus she took care of Isaac more than jo did at that time. Jo did step up but it wasn't until Isaac was older. Not sure what kind of benefits your talking about but she was making 60k a year plus benefits before Javi.
As far as Javi, they pretty much broke up when he left and started divorce proceedings while he was away. Not to mention all the crap he put her through. Jordan was with another girl most of the time he was with Kail and he gave her an sts. I never saw her cheat on jo either. They broke up while she was living in his moms house which left little for cheating. Plus she took care of Isaac more than jo did at that time. Jo did step up but it wasn't until Isaac was older. Not sure what kind of benefits your talking about but she was making 60k a year plus benefits before Javi.
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She literally admitted in the show that the marriage was for military benefits. Let's not sweep under that she can be physically abusive and has admitted to assaulting Javi. Kail filed for divorce when he was deployed after he called her out on cheating, multiple times, and she tried to deny it the divorce was even happening. She fucked Jo when she was with Jordan and tried to blame it on the fact he's her baby daddy. Then tried to get back with Jo when Jordan dumped her. Jordan or Kail didn't have an std but were tested and was hinted Jo had a STD (hence why they got tested). It's been hinted for years that she cheated on Jo with Jordan. She said she didn't want anymore kids and is pregnant again. The commenters on the site ModernTopics have all their info and it all adds up. Sorry I just can't feel sorry for her, I honestly think her behaviour lately is a cry that she needs to see a doctor or needs an intervention. They're relationship was toxic but she is also a very toxic and manipulative person that needs some help.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:Sorry- I don't blame Javi with his behaviour in the end. Kail is a serial cheater and likes to crucify herself. She cheated on Jo, bf Jordan and Javi while he was deployed. She married him for benefits and got bored. He's no prize either and I'm a little smug he's getting treated just like how he treated Jo but Kail is an asshole.[/
As far as Javi, they pretty much broke up when he left and started divorce proceedings while he was away. Not to mention all the crap he put her through. Jordan was with another girl most of the time he was with Kail and he gave her an sts. I never saw her cheat on jo either. They broke up while she was living in his moms house which left little for cheating. Plus she took care of Isaac more than jo did at that time. Jo did step up but it wasn't until Isaac was older. Not sure what kind of benefits your talking about but she was making 60k a year plus benefits before Javi.
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What do you all think about Jenelle and David, to change the subject a little?
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David gives me a bad feeling, but Jenelle has always had shit taste in men so it's not surprising.
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Yue195 wrote:She literally admitted in the show that the marriage was for military benefits. Let's not sweep under that she can be physically abusive and has admitted to assaulting Javi. Kail filed for divorce when he was deployed after he called her out on cheating, multiple times, and she tried to deny it the divorce was even happening. She fucked Jo when she was with Jordan and tried to blame it on the fact he's her baby daddy. Then tried to get back with Jo when Jordan dumped her. Jordan or Kail didn't have an std but were tested and was hinted Jo had a STD (hence why they got tested). It's been hinted for years that she cheated on Jo with Jordan. She said she didn't want anymore kids and is pregnant again. The commenters on the site ModernTopics have all their info and it all adds up. Sorry I just can't feel sorry for her, I honestly think her behaviour lately is a cry that she needs to see a doctor or needs an intervention. They're relationship was toxic but she is also a very toxic and manipulative person that needs some help.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:Sorry- I don't blame Javi with his behaviour in the end. Kail is a serial cheater and likes to crucify herself. She cheated on Jo, bf Jordan and Javi while he was deployed. She married him for benefits and got bored. He's no prize either and I'm a little smug he's getting treated just like how he treated Jo but Kail is an asshole.[/
As far as Javi, they pretty much broke up when he left and started divorce proceedings while he was away. Not to mention all the crap he put her through. Jordan was with another girl most of the time he was with Kail and he gave her an sts. I never saw her cheat on jo either. They broke up while she was living in his moms house which left little for cheating. Plus she took care of Isaac more than jo did at that time. Jo did step up but it wasn't until Isaac was older. Not sure what kind of benefits your talking about but she was making 60k a year plus benefits before Javi.
I admit after watching again I'm wrong on some points. However I think she just didn't want another child with Javi with his work schedule the way it is. That's how it was with my ex. I had two stillbirths with him and he blamed me. He became abusive and it was rare when a day passed when he wasn't. I tried fixing things. As time went on there just wasn't anything to fix. They don't show everything. Javi is a jerk and takes little responsibility for Lincoln due to his work schedule. I can't really fault him for that. But I do think he needs some anger management for those issues. And I've known ladies with husbands like that to look elsewhere. Not saying it's right. I know Kail has some issues that need dealt with. I think it has to do with being abandoned by her dad and having an alcoholic for a mom. She seems to be doing well coparenting with Jo.
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Yue195 wrote:David gives me a bad feeling, but Jenelle has always had shit taste in men so it's not surprising.
David is bad news. He does see one of his children Maryssa but his son there's a restraining order against him. He has quite an extensive arrest record and it's strange they got so serious so fast and decided to get pregnant so quickly. Personally I think he's like the other boyfriends who are after Jenelle for money nothing more. He may act like he's a good guy on the show but his behavior when the cameras aren't on it's another story when their not filming. He's been arrested during his relationship with Janelle. Like Janelle he's not raising one of his kids. I think Janelle needs some help as well as Farrah that their not getting and it's sad that MTV sees all this and doesn't offer it.
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*hugs* I'm really sorry that happened to you and I hope you're in a better place now.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:
She literally admitted in the show that the marriage was for military benefits. Let's not sweep under that she can be physically abusive and has admitted to assaulting Javi. Kail filed for divorce when he was deployed after he called her out on cheating, multiple times, and she tried to deny it the divorce was even happening. She fucked Jo when she was with Jordan and tried to blame it on the fact he's her baby daddy. Then tried to get back with Jo when Jordan dumped her. Jordan or Kail didn't have an std but were tested and was hinted Jo had a STD (hence why they got tested). It's been hinted for years that she cheated on Jo with Jordan. She said she didn't want anymore kids and is pregnant again. The commenters on the site ModernTopics have all their info and it all adds up. Sorry I just can't feel sorry for her, I honestly think her behaviour lately is a cry that she needs to see a doctor or needs an intervention. They're relationship was toxic but she is also a very toxic and manipulative person that needs some help.
I admit after watching again I'm wrong on some points. However I think she just didn't want another child with Javi with his work schedule the way it is. That's how it was with my ex. I had two stillbirths with him and he blamed me. He became abusive and it was rare when a day passed when he wasn't. I tried fixing things. As time went on there just wasn't anything to fix. They don't show everything. Javi is a jerk and takes little responsibility for Lincoln due to his work schedule. I can't really fault him for that. But I do think he needs some anger management for those issues. And I've known ladies with husbands like that to look elsewhere. Not saying it's right. I know Kail has some issues that need dealt with. I think it has to do with being abandoned by her dad and having an alcoholic for a mom. She seems to be doing well coparenting with Jo.
I agree that Javi is an asshat as well because I said I'm a little smug that he's getting the same treatment that they gave Jo. And I'm sad for Isaac because he's such a sweet boy and has attatcents to him. Kail is manipulating the situation too and using Jo to donher dirty work I'm with Vee when she said this is her Karma. The pregnancy with some new beau she probably barely knows is really concerning when she said she didn't want anymore kids but the she drops a Maci and says her chances for kids are getting slim and planned this baby with a stranger (which I don't believe). So I'm just finding it hard to empathise with her.
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I agree. I have PCOS, and I started ttc at 24 it took 3 1/2 years to become pregnant. I know there are doctors out there who are not the smartest when it comes to PCOS, and they give weird reasons like "oh it will be hard for you to become pregnant" umm if you've had 1-2 kids and your health is good this is not the case. I know one lady who is larger than me and has given birth to 5 boys without medical intervention. So much is misunderstood about PCOS.Yue195 wrote:*hugs* I'm really sorry that happened to you and I hope you're in a better place now.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:
She literally admitted in the show that the marriage was for military benefits. Let's not sweep under that she can be physically abusive and has admitted to assaulting Javi. Kail filed for divorce when he was deployed after he called her out on cheating, multiple times, and she tried to deny it the divorce was even happening. She fucked Jo when she was with Jordan and tried to blame it on the fact he's her baby daddy. Then tried to get back with Jo when Jordan dumped her. Jordan or Kail didn't have an std but were tested and was hinted Jo had a STD (hence why they got tested). It's been hinted for years that she cheated on Jo with Jordan. She said she didn't want anymore kids and is pregnant again. The commenters on the site ModernTopics have all their info and it all adds up. Sorry I just can't feel sorry for her, I honestly think her behaviour lately is a cry that she needs to see a doctor or needs an intervention. They're relationship was toxic but she is also a very toxic and manipulative person that needs some help.
I admit after watching again I'm wrong on some points. However I think she just didn't want another child with Javi with his work schedule the way it is. That's how it was with my ex. I had two stillbirths with him and he blamed me. He became abusive and it was rare when a day passed when he wasn't. I tried fixing things. As time went on there just wasn't anything to fix. They don't show everything. Javi is a jerk and takes little responsibility for Lincoln due to his work schedule. I can't really fault him for that. But I do think he needs some anger management for those issues. And I've known ladies with husbands like that to look elsewhere. Not saying it's right. I know Kail has some issues that need dealt with. I think it has to do with being abandoned by her dad and having an alcoholic for a mom. She seems to be doing well coparenting with Jo.
I agree that Javi is an asshat as well because I said I'm a little smug that he's getting the same treatment that they gave Jo. And I'm sad for Isaac because he's such a sweet boy and has attatcents to him. Kail is manipulating the situation too and using Jo to donher dirty work I'm with Vee when she said this is her Karma. The pregnancy with some new beau she probably barely knows is really concerning when she said she didn't want anymore kids but the she drops a Maci and says her chances for kids are getting slim and planned this baby with a stranger (which I don't believe). So I'm just finding it hard to empathise with her.
And I think she says she'll have issues in the ttc department just because she's had a miscarriage which again isn't the case.
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Going back to the Janelle thing, I've always had a "I can't stand this girl" thing. We both had sons around the same time. Mine didn't make it. Granted I was 9 years older but still. I'm glad she's made some changes and while this David guy doesn't seem like the greatest he's better than the losers she's dated previously. Not much but at least this guy is employed.
As far as getting Jace back, I think Barbara has played mind games with Jace as far as questions she's asked of him which to me were innapropriate. She should've left that subject off the table and allowed Jace to go in with his court appointed guardian and let them sort it out.
Currently I'm watching season 7's episode 22.
I think there are a bunch of issues with Jace's case. One he's been with her for so long. Granted I wouldn't have her babysit my dog much less raise a child. Just look at 2 of her three kids. My husband's aunt raised one of her grandsons. His dad is on wife number 3 and has fathered 6 sons. His second wife abused him and the kids. So for whatever reason she abused the middle child and I happened to witness it. They got divorced and my husband's aunt started raising the middle boy and he's now 9 years old. Only when my husband's aunt requested child support did she even think about wanting him back and she hasn't had him for almost a decade. Her ex is homeless. Some people just shouldn't breed. A guardian of the court was appointed and even though R told her that he wanted to remain where he is she gave the court the wrong information. It's crazy because the interview was taped. He calls his grandmother "mom-mom" all the grandkids do. She took that to mean he wanted to go and live with his "mother". Courts are so crazy.
As far as getting Jace back, I think Barbara has played mind games with Jace as far as questions she's asked of him which to me were innapropriate. She should've left that subject off the table and allowed Jace to go in with his court appointed guardian and let them sort it out.
Currently I'm watching season 7's episode 22.
I think there are a bunch of issues with Jace's case. One he's been with her for so long. Granted I wouldn't have her babysit my dog much less raise a child. Just look at 2 of her three kids. My husband's aunt raised one of her grandsons. His dad is on wife number 3 and has fathered 6 sons. His second wife abused him and the kids. So for whatever reason she abused the middle child and I happened to witness it. They got divorced and my husband's aunt started raising the middle boy and he's now 9 years old. Only when my husband's aunt requested child support did she even think about wanting him back and she hasn't had him for almost a decade. Her ex is homeless. Some people just shouldn't breed. A guardian of the court was appointed and even though R told her that he wanted to remain where he is she gave the court the wrong information. It's crazy because the interview was taped. He calls his grandmother "mom-mom" all the grandkids do. She took that to mean he wanted to go and live with his "mother". Courts are so crazy.
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I don't know, Babs seems to really care for Jace's wellbeing and she has raised him for so long now that he calls her mom and Jenelle kept correcting him to say May May ( I don't know how you would spell it) when it's like well Babs practically is his mom, you were off getting high and fucking other men. In recent seasons it seems like they have a really close bond, he barely knows Jenelle really. Jenelle drops her kids for men and drugs and doesn't make an improvement to get him back besides having more kids. Then manipulates Jace into feeling bad. He would of been better off being put up for adoption like Babs kept suggesting throughout Jenelle's pregnancy.
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Yue195 wrote:I don't know, Babs seems to really care for Jace's wellbeing and she has raised him for so long now that he calls her mom and Jenelle kept correcting him to say May May ( I don't know how you would spell it) when it's like well Babs practically is his mom, you were off getting high and fucking other men. In recent seasons it seems like they have a really close bond, he barely knows Jenelle really. Jenelle drops her kids for men and drugs and doesn't make an improvement to get him back besides having more kids. Then manipulates Jace into feeling bad. He would of been better off being put up for adoption like Babs kept suggesting throughout Jenelle's pregnancy.
Yeah I agree Jace should've been placed for adoption. I've known several teens who have had children young (younger than Janelle) who have ended up being cared for and even adopted by their grandparents and they ended up going down the same path their parents did.
Back when Jace was first born they were both screaming while holding Jace. Barbara maybe a better fit for Jace but that's only going by if there were only two choices.
I don't believe Barbara would be a good fit in raising Jace because she plays mind games with him and she's even done it when the cameras were filming. Just think of what she says to him when they are not. I don't believe she has his best interests at heart.
Jace has always called Barbara Meme, they claim it's French for grandmother but I know it's not. It was quite a few years ago that Jace called Barbara "mom". Jace was like 3-4 years old when he called Barbara mom. My niece has done the same and my mom only babysits her when my sister opens her clinic.
I'm not a fan of Janelle by any means but Barbara hasn't exactly helped matters when it comes to Janelle getting clean and to stop running to men who are bad for her.
Barbara has raised three children and only one of those is a good citizen.
Barbara does have a good point in Janelle's spending. The house she bought isn't fancy by any means but the land could be quite costly. She needs to get a good job because Teen mom isn't going to run forever. Honestly I don't understand how she qualified for a home loan for the land and house. Janelle doesn't really have an education. She went to school but I never saw anything about graduating. Nathan still doesn't have a job and seems like he has mental issues as well. She's one of the TMs who don't have a job outside of teen mom. At least with the others they're working or working on their education in something that would benefit them job wise down the road. And David now has three children with 3 women and Jenelle has 3 children with 3 men not including the abortions she's had.
I do wish Jace had been given up for adoption. That would've been his only hope at a good life.
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I guess just what I've seen over the years Jenelle only wants Jace so she can get everyone of her back about it. Not because she truly wants him. I agree the Barbara shouldn't be raising but I'm thinking more of her age, she's in her 60's and shouldn't be raising anymore small children, she should be retiring and relaxing. She's got a bad temper as well but the two know how to push the others buttons.
When you mention the screaming match when Jace was born it reminds me how Babs kept calling him ' the baby' and for years that dumbfounded me because all I could think was ' he has a name?' It wasn't til later I figured she still had hopes Jenelle would of put him up for adoption and Babs was trying to avoid getting attatched.
Jenelle constantly makes questionable descisions and Barbara probably knows better since she's raised her. And just from the quips of the two talking about the past it sounds like Jenelles dad was abusive and it effectively screwed up all Evans kids ( I think the brother has diagnosed bi-polar or has schizophrenia that he takes medication for, not 100%. And the sister is way worse then Jenelle and Babs has custody of her son as well) and Babs had to wait til the right moment to take them all and run. With Jenelle is easier to say she shouldn't get have custody because between the show and social media and police reports she still hasn't cleaned up that much. With David on the scene with a protection order against him not see his son or mother after abusing her, I would be worried if letting Jace go to that, that kid doesn't need anymore damage. And little moment here and there, Jenelle cries and Jace went from singing a song to cheer her up and got effectively ignored now " ummm I don't know what to do here" on his face. And with Babs he's gone up to hug her and she reciprocated back which may be a small insignificant gesture but it shows how he views and values Babs compared to Jenelle.
If Jenelle wasn't chosen for the show Jace would of been effectively taken by CPS like they were going to and put in a foster home or hopefully would of been put up for adoption. If the show hadn't stepped in and Babs hadn't been given custody it would of all gone differently.
When you mention the screaming match when Jace was born it reminds me how Babs kept calling him ' the baby' and for years that dumbfounded me because all I could think was ' he has a name?' It wasn't til later I figured she still had hopes Jenelle would of put him up for adoption and Babs was trying to avoid getting attatched.
Jenelle constantly makes questionable descisions and Barbara probably knows better since she's raised her. And just from the quips of the two talking about the past it sounds like Jenelles dad was abusive and it effectively screwed up all Evans kids ( I think the brother has diagnosed bi-polar or has schizophrenia that he takes medication for, not 100%. And the sister is way worse then Jenelle and Babs has custody of her son as well) and Babs had to wait til the right moment to take them all and run. With Jenelle is easier to say she shouldn't get have custody because between the show and social media and police reports she still hasn't cleaned up that much. With David on the scene with a protection order against him not see his son or mother after abusing her, I would be worried if letting Jace go to that, that kid doesn't need anymore damage. And little moment here and there, Jenelle cries and Jace went from singing a song to cheer her up and got effectively ignored now " ummm I don't know what to do here" on his face. And with Babs he's gone up to hug her and she reciprocated back which may be a small insignificant gesture but it shows how he views and values Babs compared to Jenelle.
If Jenelle wasn't chosen for the show Jace would of been effectively taken by CPS like they were going to and put in a foster home or hopefully would of been put up for adoption. If the show hadn't stepped in and Babs hadn't been given custody it would of all gone differently.
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Meme is a nickname for Grandmother is a nickname, kind of like Grammy or Nanna. It's probably just something they've used in the family for ages and don't think about it.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:I don't know, Babs seems to really care for Jace's wellbeing and she has raised him for so long now that he calls her mom and Jenelle kept correcting him to say May May ( I don't know how you would spell it) when it's like well Babs practically is his mom, you were off getting high and fucking other men. In recent seasons it seems like they have a really close bond, he barely knows Jenelle really. Jenelle drops her kids for men and drugs and doesn't make an improvement to get him back besides having more kids. Then manipulates Jace into feeling bad. He would of been better off being put up for adoption like Babs kept suggesting throughout Jenelle's pregnancy.
Yeah I agree Jace should've been placed for adoption. I've known several teens who have had children young (younger than Janelle) who have ended up being cared for and even adopted by their grandparents and they ended up going down the same path their parents did.
Back when Jace was first born they were both screaming while holding Jace. Barbara maybe a better fit for Jace but that's only going by if there were only two choices.
I don't believe Barbara would be a good fit in raising Jace because she plays mind games with him and she's even done it when the cameras were filming. Just think of what she says to him when they are not. I don't believe she has his best interests at heart.
Jace has always called Barbara Meme, they claim it's French for grandmother but I know it's not. It was quite a few years ago that Jace called Barbara "mom". Jace was like 3-4 years old when he called Barbara mom. My niece has done the same and my mom only babysits her when my sister opens her clinic.
I'm not a fan of Janelle by any means but Barbara hasn't exactly helped matters when it comes to Janelle getting clean and to stop running to men who are bad for her.
Barbara has raised three children and only one of those is a good citizen.
Barbara does have a good point in Janelle's spending. The house she bought isn't fancy by any means but the land could be quite costly. She needs to get a good job because Teen mom isn't going to run forever. Honestly I don't understand how she qualified for a home loan for the land and house. Janelle doesn't really have an education. She went to school but I never saw anything about graduating. Nathan still doesn't have a job and seems like he has mental issues as well. She's one of the TMs who don't have a job outside of teen mom. At least with the others they're working or working on their education in something that would benefit them job wise down the road. And David now has three children with 3 women and Jenelle has 3 children with 3 men not including the abortions she's had.
I do wish Jace had been given up for adoption. That would've been his only hope at a good life.
Other than that, I pretty well agree. I was raised by my father's mother (both my parents are massive fuck ups), I dreamed of being adopted most of my life. I went off the rails a little as a teenager, but that was in rebellion for having overcompensating my entire life. I thought if I wasn't like my parents, I'd be loved, but soon figured out that as an extension of them, I was screwed no matter what. Jace is probably in the same situation, Babs likely holds some resentment towards him, even though she obviously does love him deeply, because Jenelle gave her such hell. As much as I hate to say it, kid doesn't have much of a chance
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I think Barbara wants good for Janelle and Jace, considering she's raised 3 kids and 2 of the three turned out bad I just think it's horrible she's raising Jace.storeynyx wrote:Meme is a nickname for Grandmother is a nickname, kind of like Grammy or Nanna. It's probably just something they've used in the family for ages and don't think about it.eab424 wrote:Yue195 wrote:I don't know, Babs seems to really care for Jace's wellbeing and she has raised him for so long now that he calls her mom and Jenelle kept correcting him to say May May ( I don't know how you would spell it) when it's like well Babs practically is his mom, you were off getting high and fucking other men. In recent seasons it seems like they have a really close bond, he barely knows Jenelle really. Jenelle drops her kids for men and drugs and doesn't make an improvement to get him back besides having more kids. Then manipulates Jace into feeling bad. He would of been better off being put up for adoption like Babs kept suggesting throughout Jenelle's pregnancy.
Yeah I agree Jace should've been placed for adoption. I've known several teens who have had children young (younger than Janelle) who have ended up being cared for and even adopted by their grandparents and they ended up going down the same path their parents did.
Back when Jace was first born they were both screaming while holding Jace. Barbara maybe a better fit for Jace but that's only going by if there were only two choices.
I don't believe Barbara would be a good fit in raising Jace because she plays mind games with him and she's even done it when the cameras were filming. Just think of what she says to him when they are not. I don't believe she has his best interests at heart.
Jace has always called Barbara Meme, they claim it's French for grandmother but I know it's not. It was quite a few years ago that Jace called Barbara "mom". Jace was like 3-4 years old when he called Barbara mom. My niece has done the same and my mom only babysits her when my sister opens her clinic.
I'm not a fan of Janelle by any means but Barbara hasn't exactly helped matters when it comes to Janelle getting clean and to stop running to men who are bad for her.
Barbara has raised three children and only one of those is a good citizen.
Barbara does have a good point in Janelle's spending. The house she bought isn't fancy by any means but the land could be quite costly. She needs to get a good job because Teen mom isn't going to run forever. Honestly I don't understand how she qualified for a home loan for the land and house. Janelle doesn't really have an education. She went to school but I never saw anything about graduating. Nathan still doesn't have a job and seems like he has mental issues as well. She's one of the TMs who don't have a job outside of teen mom. At least with the others they're working or working on their education in something that would benefit them job wise down the road. And David now has three children with 3 women and Jenelle has 3 children with 3 men not including the abortions she's had.
I do wish Jace had been given up for adoption. That would've been his only hope at a good life.
Other than that, I pretty well agree. I was raised by my father's mother (both my parents are massive fuck ups), I dreamed of being adopted most of my life. I went off the rails a little as a teenager, but that was in rebellion for having overcompensating my entire life. I thought if I wasn't like my parents, I'd be loved, but soon figured out that as an extension of them, I was screwed no matter what. Jace is probably in the same situation, Babs likely holds some resentment towards him, even though she obviously does love him deeply, because Jenelle gave her such hell. As much as I hate to say it, kid doesn't have much of a chance
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Going to Kailyn I think she could use some counseling. The way she acts with adults is not normal. Her friends are a different story. Her kids she's great with but I just can't stand watching scenes where she's got this blank angry look on her face.
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