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Kay91_ wrote:Ellie seemed more interested in getting dressed up & showing off that ugly ass dress & her moms precious pearls for their "cocktail attire dinner date" than she was to actually receive the award.
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I didn't think the dress was too ugly for the event, it just wasn't great color for her.
Boredomatitsfinest wrote:I've kind of been feeling the same about Calvin's development but haven't wanted to comment because each child develops at a different pace, so I feel it's too early to judge. But, I fell down the YouTube wormhole yesterday and somehow ended up rewatching Jackson's 2nd birthday vlog, and honestly, Cal's not that far behind Jackson when he was that age. I think the difference between them is that Calvin has learned that he can get what he wants through whining, so he hasn't had much need to develop a vocabulary. (Off topic, but omg. I feel it's necessary to remind everyone how Jackson used to call the "minions" from Despicable Me, 'ninon'. So. Freaking. Cute!)
Also, E+J keep saying how "they /will/ be TTC", "when the time comes", etc. It's been bothering me so badly. Especially after Ellie said she'd like to be pregnant this year... What exactly are they waiting for? Does anyone have any ideas?
I have an idea. They are trying right now but that just means they are having sex. Probably they never used any protection but rarely had sex and she rarely had cycles. They have in mind trying really hard tracking her ovulation or getting help with some medicine. They don't want to say that they are trying because people would freak out and expect it to happen quickly. They are hoping for a surprise quick pregnancy or they will announce that they are trying when they do something more serious in order to get pregnant.
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Their going to Carl's and Jingers new house... I did not know Carl and Jinger where millionaires, how could they afford this huge property and house. That's half furnished already.. It looks more expensive that the daily bumps and their ice palace.
In response to above, I think they're renting that new home. You don't usually buy a house with furniture in it unless it's white goods.
It's weird, because I watched them years ago when they were struggling to even feed their kids. They were humble and were clearly suffering with depression and hardship. So, even though they're quite annoying now, good for them for doing well.
Kay91_ wrote:Ellie seemed more interested in getting dressed up & showing off that ugly ass dress & her moms precious pearls for their "cocktail attire dinner date" than she was to actually receive the award.
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I didn't think the dress was too ugly for the event, it just wasn't great color for her.
I liked the dress very much... See how people think differently. Funny
My gut tells me there is at least some development delays with Calvin. It must be hard for him to have parents that are seemingly ignorant to his difficulties, thus hindering his progress further.
I think the reason he 'weirds' people out is because he's not your average toddler and we instinctively notice. It's not just that he's whiney, he seems genuinely miserable; you got to as yourself as to why. There are lots of syndromes which have irritability, sadness and general clinginess as part of their makeup. Whether or not it's a personality issue, it's not 'normal'.
He's struggling with his speech which may or may not be due to his teeth. Either way, why not take him to the dentist or speech therapy to give him a head start in life. His social skills need work, so why not have in a play group with kids other than his cousins and really focus on his social boundaries.
Lastly, I think Ellie would rather him have diabetes than developmental delays like her Aunt Linda. I'm not saying he does (who knows) but the stigma of that versus a bonafide 'real' illness like diabetes is not something she's capable of accepting.
It's like diabetes is more glamorous and exciting than stating he's having trouble with his social skills, speech and temperament.
I am so terribly sorry. This really made me very sad. Please continue fighting and believe that your children in heaven will send you their sibling.
This is what was always so strange to me. I did not have problems conceiving thanks God but their problems were... not that serious. They were veeeery young, did not go through a serious medical procedure, they waited and then had some help getting pregnant and that's all. Nothing special. To be honest Missy aand Katie had losses and that is way worse than just not getting pregnant at the age of what-19?[/quote]
It was strange to me too. She has PCOS, but she was young and it didn't seem like much time has passed when they started medical intervention. I know some media outlets incorrectly claimed that E & J did IVF but they never did. They got Jackson through medicated IUI.
Thank you for your sweet words, There are some days that are more difficult than others. I started trying when I was 25. I had my son at 28 and his little sister joined him 19 months later. I thought not getting pregnant for 3 1/2 years was horrible. Boy was I wrong. I'll be 36 next month and still no rainbow. My then husband blamed me and when I said I was ready to try again he's like what you want to lose a third? After losing L & A, I went to a new doctor who gave me several blood tests and I was told I have the mthfr (sp?) issue which makes sense since L was stillborn due to placental abruption due to a huge blood clot behind my placenta. I had a blood clotting issue with my daughter as well. I can't believe neither OB office noticed this issue.
I started watching E&J when they were ttc'ing Jackson. I stopped regularly watching when they moved into that condo (I think that's what it was) I just couldn't stomach how she couldn't say some words like "meal" came out "mill".
And the shopping is redicoulous those blankets she bought for Calvin and Jackson? I went to the site and it's a Utah company. They no longer carried the prints she bought Calvin and Jackson and they were all ugly. There's no way I'd pay $75 for a baby blanket that looked like a cheap blanket from dollar general.
MandyJ wrote:Well she did admit to wanting to get pregnant this year so I wouldn't be surprised if they are already TTC right now.
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There's no way she's fertile/ovulating/menstruating at that scary low body fat percentage. She wasn't this skeletal when she conceived the boys, was she?
MandyJ wrote:Well she did admit to wanting to get pregnant this year so I wouldn't be surprised if they are already TTC right now.
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There's no way she's fertile/ovulating/menstruating at that scary low body fat percentage. She wasn't this skeletal when she conceived the boys, was she?
She was slightly healthier when she conceived Jackson with treatment, and it is speculated she was able to conceive Calvin so easily after Jackson because of the mere fact that she still had some pregnancy weight on her.
and i agree with you all. calvin's neck needed therapy and he stopped breathing twice but they didn't bat an eyelash. but their viewers mention diabetes and what do you know...they're at the doctor's office the very next day. what great parents!
and i agree with you all. calvin's neck needed therapy and he stopped breathing twice but they didn't bat an eyelash. but their viewers mention diabetes and what do you know...they're at the doctor's office the very next day. what great parents!
They saw a lot of questioning comments the first time he turn blue/stop breathing and waited to call their physician the next day.
I have this very uncomfortable feeling that them taking Cal to the doctors was a form of PR containment. Like someone said on the Comparing The Griffiths thread a while back, everything E&J put in the vlogs is planned out on a spreadsheet in a business model/reality TV type of way. They saw the backlash ref his neck and the breathing episodes and now, especially because they're more YouTube famous, they feel that to remain popular they need to make it look like they 'listen' to their viewers concerns, if that makes sense.
I really hope I'm wrong and they didn't take Cal to the docs based on the above because that would be too many kinds of weird, and yet, I wouldn't put it past them.
Scar2016 wrote:I have this very uncomfortable feeling that them taking Cal to the doctors was a form of PR containment. Like someone said on the Comparing The Griffiths thread a while back, everything E&J put in the vlogs is planned out on a spreadsheet in a business model/reality TV type of way. They saw the backlash ref his neck and the breathing episodes and now, especially because they're more YouTube famous, they feel that to remain popular they need to make it look like they 'listen' to their viewers concerns, if that makes sense.
I really hope I'm wrong and they didn't take Cal to the docs based on the above because that would be too many kinds of weird, and yet, I wouldn't put it past them.
Scar2016 wrote:I have this very uncomfortable feeling that them taking Cal to the doctors was a form of PR containment. Like someone said on the Comparing The Griffiths thread a while back, everything E&J put in the vlogs is planned out on a spreadsheet in a business model/reality TV type of way. They saw the backlash ref his neck and the breathing episodes and now, especially because they're more YouTube famous, they feel that to remain popular they need to make it look like they 'listen' to their viewers concerns, if that makes sense.
I really hope I'm wrong and they didn't take Cal to the docs based on the above because that would be too many kinds of weird, and yet, I wouldn't put it past them.
Wait, they have a spreadsheet?? Or is that just a theory? That's freaking INSANE if they do!!!
PostyMcPosterston wrote:
Wait, they have a spreadsheet?? Or is that just a theory? That's freaking INSANE if they do!!!
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Honestly I don't think it's insane at all. We are not just randomly watching a handful of randomly selected moments from their day. We are watching a carefully produced show. They have to adjust their lighting and position the camera before every clip, they do multiple takes and they edit down their content. It is exactly like a reality tv show, except they are the ones writing the script. They have to keep it entertaining and relevant to the demographics of their channel. It is their business and only form of income, you bet they have a plan. A spreadsheet is only one way to keep track of a business.
PostyMcPosterston wrote:
Wait, they have a spreadsheet?? Or is that just a theory? That's freaking INSANE if they do!!!
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Honestly I don't think it's insane at all. We are not just randomly watching a handful of randomly selected moments from their day. We are watching a carefully produced show. They have to adjust their lighting and position the camera before every clip, they do multiple takes and they edit down their content. It is exactly like a reality tv show, except they are the ones writing the script. They have to keep it entertaining and relevant to the demographics of their channel. It is their business and only form of income, you bet they have a plan. A spreadsheet is only one way to keep track of a business.
I think this is giving them too much credit. Their quality is way down from where it used to be, so I doubt they are putting much planning into lighting. Ellie filmed a scene the other day with her hand over the speaker, so you could hardly hear her, and for some reason Jared left the pointless clip in anyway.
I do completely agree they script their content and are willing to reshoot a scene if need be. I just think the spreadsheet is more about spacing out their interesting content, than it is planning style choices. How much they have changed and how fake they have become does still surprise me though. I used to praise Jared for not being like Bryan! Now I think he's worse
sasperillo wrote:
Honestly I don't think it's insane at all. We are not just randomly watching a handful of randomly selected moments from their day. We are watching a carefully produced show. They have to adjust their lighting and position the camera before every clip, they do multiple takes and they edit down their content. It is exactly like a reality tv show, except they are the ones writing the script. They have to keep it entertaining and relevant to the demographics of their channel. It is their business and only form of income, you bet they have a plan. A spreadsheet is only one way to keep track of a business.
I think this is giving them too much credit. Their quality is way down from where it used to be, so I doubt they are putting much planning into lighting. Ellie filmed a scene the other day with her hand over the speaker, so you could hardly hear her, and for some reason Jared left the pointless clip in anyway.
I do completely agree they script their content and are willing to reshoot a scene if need be. I just think the spreadsheet is more about spacing out their interesting content, than it is planning style choices. How much they have changed and how fake they have become does still surprise me though. I used to praise Jared for not being like Bryan! Now I think he's worse
I agree with you that the quality isn't good- I mentioned cameras and lighting to remind us that there is a level of planning that goes into everything we see. Like the time Jackson got locked in the bathroom and they staged the cameras to maximize the drama instead of getting their kid out immediately. The spreadsheet- which I agree with you is to keep track of topics/content rather than style- is just another example of planning that goes into the production of the show-which is a low quality show nevertheless. Sorry for not being more clear earlier- I agree with everything you've said.
Jared smoothing Joels hair back from his forehead was freaking weird today. He doesn't even touch Ellie that way. He has a major hard on for Joel. What the hell?
nutbagmcgee wrote:Jared smoothing Joels hair back from his forehead was freaking weird today. He doesn't even touch Ellie that way. He has a major hard on for Joel. What the hell?
I rushed here to make the very same comment. It made me sooooo uncomfortable. Had to wonder if it was actually Jared behind the camera. Just come out of the closet already.