E+J - The Phantom Fetus! Part 25
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I doubt the IVF winners are "thrilled" with that announcement. They just have to act like it and be nice because like it was mentioned, they have no other choice. E+J "paid" for their IVF, there's no way they can even mutter anything bad about them because they'd be deemed ungrateful and hated by all of their minions. And you DEFINITELY cannot tell me Joan of all people was genuinely happy to hear the news. Even in her instagram post, she told some truth. "I felt brave enough to watch Ellie's pregnancy announcement. I cried of course. out of happiness. And also sadness." It obviously hurt her more than she's going to let on! Ellie and Jared knew exactly what they were doing. They knew the finalists would never talk bad and of course stick up for them.
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And also to add;
If Ellie is TRULY pregnant, she didn't have to tell her IVF "friends" this weekend, of all weekends. She didn't have to get her way and have a Mother's Day announcement vlog to make herself seem special and such a coincidence. She should have waited a few days. The days leading up to Mother's Day are very sensitive for some people and they're already lying about the dates, so it's not like it would matter. It would make them seem a tad bit less insensitive. But nope- there's always a plan and agenda with these guys.
If Ellie is TRULY pregnant, she didn't have to tell her IVF "friends" this weekend, of all weekends. She didn't have to get her way and have a Mother's Day announcement vlog to make herself seem special and such a coincidence. She should have waited a few days. The days leading up to Mother's Day are very sensitive for some people and they're already lying about the dates, so it's not like it would matter. It would make them seem a tad bit less insensitive. But nope- there's always a plan and agenda with these guys.
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This was in reply to someone a couple of pages back. Not sure why it didn't quote. As for the chart you go by the age at which she conceived which according to her vlog of the ovulation test its either late april early may. She was 26 yrs old at the time so if you look at 26 and april/may it states male. I have no idea how it works but it was introduced to me when i was expecting and it was accurate as well as those i know who have been pregnant since. Of course it could be false but in my case it hasn't been wrong yet!littlebaby wrote:Can you explain this a bit? I've never heard of this. What's the thought process behind it?Mamabear12 wrote:I as well had the suspicion of gender selection ivf. I have a gender prediction chart that is accurate for me and those i know. It says Ellie should have a boy! If she ends up with a girl it makes my suspicion even stronger.
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Good to know! You are the first I've know to say it was wrongjapaluvr wrote:It's the Chinese Gender Predictor. Based off the age of the mother and month conception took place shows what gender you'll be having. It was wrong for me by the way.littlebaby wrote:Can you explain this a bit? I've never heard of this. What's the thought process behind it?Mamabear12 wrote:I as well had the suspicion of gender selection ivf. I have a gender prediction chart that is accurate for me and those i know. It says Ellie should have a boy! If she ends up with a girl it makes my suspicion even stronger.
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Late to the party but after watching today's vlog I'm really wondering what on earth is going on?! Considering all of the negativity that they're clearly deleting, they had the nerve to say "thanks for all the support" GTFO!
Also, to make it seem more "real" why not video her calling the doctors office to book an appointment for blood work to confirm.. oh wait, either they already knew before this weekend and the bloods have been done already OR they've taken a digital that said 'Not pregnant' / a FRER and didn't get even a faint second pink line (and those tests are way more sensitive).
Then the fact that they didn't mention it at all the entire vlog except the last 10 seconds where it was just something that Jackson had said and a thanks for the support... right For two people who were soooooooo excited to have #3 and for weeks tried to convince everyone that the tests were lying, they don't seem excited at all. If this is a "production" and it's all scripted, best they don't give up their day jobs because they're not great at acting.
I told my husband about all of this yesterday when he got home from work. He was silent for a second while he thought about it and then he simply said "f**king dickheads" while rolling his eyes
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Also, to make it seem more "real" why not video her calling the doctors office to book an appointment for blood work to confirm.. oh wait, either they already knew before this weekend and the bloods have been done already OR they've taken a digital that said 'Not pregnant' / a FRER and didn't get even a faint second pink line (and those tests are way more sensitive).
Then the fact that they didn't mention it at all the entire vlog except the last 10 seconds where it was just something that Jackson had said and a thanks for the support... right For two people who were soooooooo excited to have #3 and for weeks tried to convince everyone that the tests were lying, they don't seem excited at all. If this is a "production" and it's all scripted, best they don't give up their day jobs because they're not great at acting.
I told my husband about all of this yesterday when he got home from work. He was silent for a second while he thought about it and then he simply said "f**king dickheads" while rolling his eyes
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Thanks for the info! I havent known it to be wrong until now lol!lmmomSD wrote:That calendar isn't foolproof. I was 32 when I conceived my son in February, and he was definitely a boy! It was right about my daughter. I was 29, and she was conceived in December.Mamabear12 wrote:I as well had the suspicion of gender selection ivf. I have a gender prediction chart that is accurate for me and those i know. It says Ellie should have a boy! If she ends up with a girl it makes my suspicion even stronger.
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Sorry for double comment but I also wanted to add, that Chinese calendar thing that was posted a few pages back was inaccurate for me. By that I should have had a girl but my baby is most definitely a boy
Every single wives tale we tried while I was pregnant said girl. We just wanted a happy, healthy baby so we didn't care about if we were having a boy or a girl but did them all for fun anyway.
Apparently he likes to break the rules
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Every single wives tale we tried while I was pregnant said girl. We just wanted a happy, healthy baby so we didn't care about if we were having a boy or a girl but did them all for fun anyway.
Apparently he likes to break the rules
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Am a day behind but damn, they are truly worse then the bumps and thats saying something. I don't know if this has been mentioned but before they dhow the test Ellie says "You may not see it on camera" then they show it and like somone said, there is no line! I 100% beleive that they are lying and saying they are pregnant and in a couple weeks will go to the doctor and the title will be "We lost our mothers day baby" in lowercase to show its serious. They didn't show any emotions in the video and it all seemed fake and scripted. How they go over and explain everything that happened in the past two weeks so any new people would be caught up right before they announce. And for them to tell Joan makes it all worse.
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My theory about the lack of excitement/familial responses is that Ellie was so desperate to prove that she was right that as soon as she saw the faintest line she wanted the video to go live. Most other vloggers would wait a few days, take a digital test, get footage of all their friends and family finding out... but Ellie couldn't stand people saying she was symptom spotting. Ellie is ALWAYS right folks and she will not hesitate to prove that.
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It was wrong for my son. Right for my daughter.Mamabear12 wrote:Good to know! You are the first I've know to say it was wrongjapaluvr wrote:It's the Chinese Gender Predictor. Based off the age of the mother and month conception took place shows what gender you'll be having. It was wrong for me by the way.littlebaby wrote:
Can you explain this a bit? I've never heard of this. What's the thought process behind it?
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They replied to a comment on today's vlog saying that she will get a blood test done "soon." There are still people in the comments section who clearly don't think the test they showed was a positive, there are people asking if she's continuing to test, if the line is getting darker, asking if she's getting blood work done, etc. I'd say that's a fairly unusual thing to bring up, except for the fact that their announcement video was SO confusing because they never showed a second line.
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I cannot stand these two so I don't watch them and I don't read gossip about them (I should) so can someone fill me in on Ellie's infertility?
Did it take a long time for her to get pregnant with Jackson or did she have miscarriages before him? Did she have to use IVF or did things happen naturally? Was she ACTUALLY infertile and her body realized what to do after Jackson, hence why Calvin and this (possible) new baby happened fairly easily? Or was she lying about being infertile?
It hasn't even been a couple months since they announced they were trying, right??? And she might already be pregnant, which doesn't scream infertile to me (unless she loses the baby, of course). Please fill me in. I need to read here more often lmao
Did it take a long time for her to get pregnant with Jackson or did she have miscarriages before him? Did she have to use IVF or did things happen naturally? Was she ACTUALLY infertile and her body realized what to do after Jackson, hence why Calvin and this (possible) new baby happened fairly easily? Or was she lying about being infertile?
It hasn't even been a couple months since they announced they were trying, right??? And she might already be pregnant, which doesn't scream infertile to me (unless she loses the baby, of course). Please fill me in. I need to read here more often lmao
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Those tests are the WORST on the market.
While we were trying I used every test known to man and every cycle I would get a very faint positive on those ones. Everyone else could see it too but would say "oh it needs to be darker for a real positive". As anyone who has ever tried to conceive knows... A LINE IS A LINE. So I would get all hopeful even though every other test was negative_(until I finally actually was pregnant and then a first response picked it up far earlier than any other test). Eventually I got my Mum to take one because there was literally no way she could be pregnant and it came out darker than mine, almost as dark as the test line!!!!
I hope they have a sponsorship with Clearblue and just cant show their darker positive from a First Response but if@they truly are going off a faint line on that type of Clearblue I feel so sorry for them because there is a high chance it is a false positive
While we were trying I used every test known to man and every cycle I would get a very faint positive on those ones. Everyone else could see it too but would say "oh it needs to be darker for a real positive". As anyone who has ever tried to conceive knows... A LINE IS A LINE. So I would get all hopeful even though every other test was negative_(until I finally actually was pregnant and then a first response picked it up far earlier than any other test). Eventually I got my Mum to take one because there was literally no way she could be pregnant and it came out darker than mine, almost as dark as the test line!!!!
I hope they have a sponsorship with Clearblue and just cant show their darker positive from a First Response but if@they truly are going off a faint line on that type of Clearblue I feel so sorry for them because there is a high chance it is a false positive
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SI_Photography wrote:On the clip where Ellie is talking to her mom on the phone Saturday night, I held my phone up to my ear to hear if it was indeed her mom and was def her voice but can anyone translate what is being said? Ellie says it's a line then her mom says "I hope it's...." and I can't hear the rest, but Ellie chuckles awkwardly and says "eh heh heh me too." Any ideas?
Haha I also wondered what her mom said. And because I'm totally crazy a listened to it with my better headphones. Of course I thought that she must have said "I hope it's a girl" but it doesn't sound like that. But I think she said "I hope it's an XX one" or something like that. But does she know that XX=girl? But that's just because her mom is probably hoping it's a girl and Ellie's response "hahahahah me too" sounded just like she was hoping it was girl.
Sorry again for my English, I don't have the best language skills to explain all of my thought, but I trust your capability to understand what I mean.
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Ok I try. They _say_ it took about three years to conceive Jackson. First year of "trying" was actually Not Trying Not Preventing. After that it was 1,5 years or so "actively" trying based on what Jared learned in school/college. Ellie took OPKs for a while but they were either always negative or false positives. They went to an OB doctor/gynecologist etc. and Ellie got a prescription for Clomid and Jared's sperm was tested and it was fine. This must have happened in 2012. They did seven rounds of Clomid without success. I have always wondered if her cycles were monitored with ultrasound; measuring follicles and so on. At least here in Finland you can't do Clomid without having at least one ultrasound to see, if you have a dominant follicle. Also the lining of the uterus should be checked because for some women the Clomid makes the lining too thin.tintin15 wrote:I cannot stand these two so I don't watch them and I don't read gossip about them (I should) so can someone fill me in on Ellie's infertility?
Did it take a long time for her to get pregnant with Jackson or did she have miscarriages before him? Did she have to use IVF or did things happen naturally? Was she ACTUALLY infertile and her body realized what to do after Jackson, hence why Calvin and this (possible) new baby happened fairly easily? Or was she lying about being infertile?
It hasn't even been a couple months since they announced they were trying, right??? And she might already be pregnant, which doesn't scream infertile to me (unless she loses the baby, of course). Please fill me in. I need to read here more often lmao
March 2013 they went to Utah fertility center and the doctor there said that Ellie MIGHT have PCOS but a diagnose was never made or they didn't show it. But Ellie has said since then that she has PCOS. She got a prescription for Letrozol (Femara) and HCG trigger shot. They were preparing for IUI (insemination), but just before the procedure, Ellie ovulated and they couldn't do the IUI. However they had intercourse at the right time and ended up pregnant with Jackson. They were never even planning an IVF.
Ellie hasn't had a miscarriage. Calvin was an oopsie baby, when she tested positive she didn't even know how many weeks she could be. And no one knows just yet when this pregnancy started if it's even real... but Ellie had her IUD out at the end of March. She supposedly ovulated on April 18th and tested "positive" almost a month after that... like 26 DPO ( I had to count, it just can't be true!!!)
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It's definitely wrong for Jackson. He should have been a girl. And according to that chart I should be a boy.Mamabear12 wrote:Thanks for the info! I havent known it to be wrong until now lol!lmmomSD wrote:That calendar isn't foolproof. I was 32 when I conceived my son in February, and he was definitely a boy! It was right about my daughter. I was 29, and she was conceived in December.Mamabear12 wrote:I as well had the suspicion of gender selection ivf. I have a gender prediction chart that is accurate for me and those i know. It says Ellie should have a boy! If she ends up with a girl it makes my suspicion even stronger.
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Okay, maybe I'm ignorant but I don't understand why Jared needed to use whatever he learned in college when they were TTC'ing. Even if they didn't want to use any resources or track Ellie's cycle, couldn't they just have sex every other day or so starting a couple days after her period? It seems like even someone who knew nothing about biology would be able to conceive after a few/several months of just having sex a lot...right?Rullakebab wrote: Ok I try. They _say_ it took about three years to conceive Jackson. First year of "trying" was actually Not Trying Not Preventing. After that it was 1,5 years or so "actively" trying based on what Jared learned in school/college.
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I think their problem was Ellie is SO thin or maybe has a thyroid issue, so she didn't get a regular period - and they had no clue how to track her cycles.fossilfinger wrote:Okay, maybe I'm ignorant but I don't understand why Jared needed to use whatever he learned in college when they were TTC'ing. Even if they didn't want to use any resources or track Ellie's cycle, couldn't they just have sex every other day or so starting a couple days after her period? It seems like even someone who knew nothing about biology would be able to conceive after a few/several months of just having sex a lot...right?Rullakebab wrote: Ok I try. They _say_ it took about three years to conceive Jackson. First year of "trying" was actually Not Trying Not Preventing. After that it was 1,5 years or so "actively" trying based on what Jared learned in school/college.
She said the doctors who gave her clomid never did a single ultrasound. Once the fertility doctors started doing ultrasounds she got knocked up the natural way within a month. It sounds like they weren't tracking properly and NOT infertility.
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And this is what I absolutely hate about her. She ALWAYS has to be right. Always. Even if she isn't right. There's nothing wrong with announcing early at all. I think I'd prefer it in a way. BUT, you don't announce with the slightest faint line (if there really was one!!) after you've been testing for days and getting negatives. How do they feel okay with that for themselves even?? I'd feel super uneasy. And paranoid. Wait til you get more of a verification then pop the news.... but then again, nothing is as it seems in the Mecham household so who knows what's even truePency wrote:My theory about the lack of excitement/familial responses is that Ellie was so desperate to prove that she was right that as soon as she saw the faintest line she wanted the video to go live. Most other vloggers would wait a few days, take a digital test, get footage of all their friends and family finding out... but Ellie couldn't stand people saying she was symptom spotting. Ellie is ALWAYS right folks and she will not hesitate to prove that.
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I believe she's pregnant but what I find the most bizarre is how they set up the video as if they were about to find out.
Ellie says she was looking at herself again blablabla so she thought she would take one more test, so they're gonna take one more test.
They look at it, Jared says he sees a line and asks her if she does, and she says she doesn't!! Then she says it's good to finally confirm what she already knew in her own mind. ????
Then suddenly footage from the night before, even though they never mentioned taking a test, or even having a faint line. Then phony excitement.
They couldve said they took a test that was faint, so theyre taking another to confirm. Or if they wanted to lie, just do it properly! Dont mention the previous night. Just take a goddamn test and act surprised and happy when its positive. It would least seem more believable than this.
Ellie says she was looking at herself again blablabla so she thought she would take one more test, so they're gonna take one more test.
They look at it, Jared says he sees a line and asks her if she does, and she says she doesn't!! Then she says it's good to finally confirm what she already knew in her own mind. ????
Then suddenly footage from the night before, even though they never mentioned taking a test, or even having a faint line. Then phony excitement.
They couldve said they took a test that was faint, so theyre taking another to confirm. Or if they wanted to lie, just do it properly! Dont mention the previous night. Just take a goddamn test and act surprised and happy when its positive. It would least seem more believable than this.