I watched a birth vlog in which the wife was in labor and drove to the hospital while the husband sat on the passengers seat. Nuts lolellawski wrote:The whole story is sad, but I also found Johns reaction to whole thing sad, I wonder if she is saying it that way on purpose, but it makes him sound kinda selfish, your wife who is overdue is going to an important appointment and you ask if you HAVE to go and instead of driving her there you bike and she drives. I've never been pregnant myself but I have 2 friends who went overdue and none of them were in for any driving lol, I actually drove one of them who is a single mom to her last appointment.
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did she ever mention not being able to feel maeve move before her appointment? i don't remember.
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I had weekly NSTs as well because my baby had the same growth restriction problem Maeve had. My hubby never went to any he had to work.
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That's also what I don't get. She excluded all of that, her worries, Maeve not moving. I haven't seen her write the whole detailed story so we could get the whole picture. Which is odd, since she shared so many other weird detailed things.Boredomatitsfinest wrote:It doesn't make sense to me either.HelloSweetie wrote:
I think that was fine. Husbands don't need to go to routine appointments, and this is what that sounded like to me. If she truly worried that something was wrong, I imagine he would have known that and would have felt the need to be at the appointment.
The story doesn't make sense to me tbh.
Hasn't she talked about how she had concerns, because she thought the baby wasn't moving, and that was the whole ordeal with the midwife?
If that was the case... I would imagine this appointment wouldn't have been a routine one? Or, if it was, certainly not a casual one. And, I would imagine you wouldn't make a joke about leaking fluid when you had already been concerned that you hadn't felt movement....?
Am I missing something here?
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Do you that think if they ever have a baby girl, they would name her Maeve again?
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emilyk16 wrote:Do you think that if they ever have a baby girl, they would name her Maeve again?
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That would be messed up in my opinion if they did
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I highly doubt it because no child (living or otherwise) will ever replace their perfect first "maeve" .... can totally see them using it as a middle name though or something similar to 'honour' her like may for a girl, Lucas for a boy (like Lucile) or something along those linesemilyk16 wrote:Do you that think if they ever have a baby girl, they would name her Maeve again?
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Someone posted the email John wrote about what had happened with the midwife in one of the first 10 pagesboredmamaneedsdrama wrote:That's also what I don't get. She excluded all of that, her worries, Maeve not moving. I haven't seen her write the whole detailed story so we could get the whole picture. Which is odd, since she shared so many other weird detailed things.Boredomatitsfinest wrote:It doesn't make sense to me either.HelloSweetie wrote:
I think that was fine. Husbands don't need to go to routine appointments, and this is what that sounded like to me. If she truly worried that something was wrong, I imagine he would have known that and would have felt the need to be at the appointment.
The story doesn't make sense to me tbh.
Hasn't she talked about how she had concerns, because she thought the baby wasn't moving, and that was the whole ordeal with the midwife?
If that was the case... I would imagine this appointment wouldn't have been a routine one? Or, if it was, certainly not a casual one. And, I would imagine you wouldn't make a joke about leaking fluid when you had already been concerned that you hadn't felt movement....?
Am I missing something here?
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Maybe I am stupid, but it just seems to me that if there had been lots of her being worried and bugging them, and they found the growth restriction and were concerned, that they would have induced her right away, rather than making an appointment for a few days out. That's what is odd about it. The story changes. Like I said, either she doesn't remember right because she was so freaked out, or she's embellishing.
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What is she gonna do if she has another girl? call her Muave..
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If you're stupid, then so am I haha. There are way too many oddities in this entire thing to make sense of. Honestly, I don't think she can tell the difference from what the reality of the situation was, and all of the different scenarios and stories she's gone through in her head to help cope. I think that she was so deeply traumatized from everything that she has blocked most of it out, and when she makes these intricately detailed posts of her recollections, she might be greatly filling in then blanks without even realizing.lmmomSD wrote:Maybe I am stupid, but it just seems to me that if there had been lots of her being worried and bugging them, and they found the growth restriction and were concerned, that they would have induced her right away, rather than making an appointment for a few days out. That's what is odd about it. The story changes. Like I said, either she doesn't remember right because she was so freaked out, or she's embellishing.
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I think that someone said on here...something like, that they can't remember details from what they did the day before yesterday, let alone 2 years ago. I completely agree. There's no way she remembers THAT many crazy specific details from a whirlwind event that happened 2 years ago. Typically in overly stimulating scenarios like that, people tend to recall it as "a blur." Not, like, "The nurse turned and looked at me at 2:37 pm and wistfully said, with her MAC 'Fleshpot' painted lips, "Hold on a second." Lol (Sorry to be making jokes about this, but it's just ridiculous to me that she continues to act this way and everyone around her just enables her.)
But, anyway, didn't they say that they found out the cause of Maeve's death was due to the growth restriction after she was born? I could've sworn they did, but I just can't keep the "facts" of their story straight anymore lol.
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Honestly it wouldn't surprise me. I know a woman who's first baby was stillborn, she doesn't post daily novels about her grief but I can tell she struggled immensely and really needed some intense therapy/mental help. And that it wasn't a great idea to get pregnant again right away. However that's exactly what happened I think 2 months later. She ended up having another boy, her first stillborn baby was named Logan, and she named the second baby Jackson Logan. However within a few days started referring to him only as Logan, and when someone politely asked her about it, she said they originally used Logan as a middle name as a tribute to their first son, however it just felt right when they started calling the new baby that as well. He's now 2 and she has said he doesn't even known his first name is actually Jackson. I try not to judge in my head and of course would never ever say anything, but it seemed very odd to me. I don't know how it would come about to just start calling this new baby the name of the one you lost.emilyk16 wrote:Do you that think if they ever have a baby girl, they would name her Maeve again?
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Just re-read the Yelp review and it really does make Joan sound like a neurotic mess. They mention that the midwife was always more concerned with treating Joan's anxiety than with treating Maeve. At one point he uses he line (if it's even John)...."at a typical unscheduled appointment." Apparently calling because she felt the baby wasn't moving enough was common, but Maeve would pass NSTs each time. They also had 3 ultrasounds completed at 35/36 weeks at different places, and concluded that Maeve was fine (though Joan of course believes they show Maeve was losing weight).
They also mention Joan's history of addiction at one point, and say that she was prescribed holistic medications and Adavan for anxiety that they believe she shouldn't have been due to 80% alcohol content. Naturally she didn't take them because she did everything right . The post has such an indignant and aggressive tone.
It says nothing about leaking fluid on the morning they went in, and does actually mention that it had previously been noted that she should drink more water and they had been watching for low fluid levels. Maeve's fluid levels had actually increased by her final appointment, so I don't think Joan was leaking.
Can't link the Yelp review because it contains personal info and mods removed it the last time. It's pretty easy to find though.
They also mention Joan's history of addiction at one point, and say that she was prescribed holistic medications and Adavan for anxiety that they believe she shouldn't have been due to 80% alcohol content. Naturally she didn't take them because she did everything right . The post has such an indignant and aggressive tone.
It says nothing about leaking fluid on the morning they went in, and does actually mention that it had previously been noted that she should drink more water and they had been watching for low fluid levels. Maeve's fluid levels had actually increased by her final appointment, so I don't think Joan was leaking.
Can't link the Yelp review because it contains personal info and mods removed it the last time. It's pretty easy to find though.
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What is the name of the Midwifery practice?HelloSweetie wrote:Just re-read the Yelp review and it really does make Joan sound like a neurotic mess. They mention that the midwife was always more concerned with treating Joan's anxiety than with treating Maeve. At one point he uses he line (if it's even John)...."at a typical unscheduled appointment." Apparently calling because she felt the baby wasn't moving enough was common, but Maeve would pass NSTs each time. They also had 3 ultrasounds completed at 35/36 weeks at different places, and concluded that Maeve was fine (though Joan of course believes they show Maeve was losing weight).
They also mention Joan's history of addiction at one point, and say that she was prescribed holistic medications and Adavan for anxiety that they believe she shouldn't have been due to 80% alcohol content. Naturally she didn't take them because she did everything right . The post has such an indignant and aggressive tone.
It says nothing about leaking fluid on the morning they went in, and does actually mention that it had previously been noted that she should drink more water and they had been watching for low fluid levels. Maeve's fluid levels had actually increased by her final appointment, so I don't think Joan was leaking.
Can't link the Yelp review because it contains personal info and mods removed it the last time. It's pretty easy to find though.
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I've seen it mentioned in other posts so I don't think that's the private info the mods were concerned about (I hope!).jess595 wrote:What is the name of the Midwifery practice?HelloSweetie wrote:Just re-read the Yelp review and it really does make Joan sound like a neurotic mess. They mention that the midwife was always more concerned with treating Joan's anxiety than with treating Maeve. At one point he uses he line (if it's even John)...."at a typical unscheduled appointment." Apparently calling because she felt the baby wasn't moving enough was common, but Maeve would pass NSTs each time. They also had 3 ultrasounds completed at 35/36 weeks at different places, and concluded that Maeve was fine (though Joan of course believes they show Maeve was losing weight).
They also mention Joan's history of addiction at one point, and say that she was prescribed holistic medications and Adavan for anxiety that they believe she shouldn't have been due to 80% alcohol content. Naturally she didn't take them because she did everything right . The post has such an indignant and aggressive tone.
It says nothing about leaking fluid on the morning they went in, and does actually mention that it had previously been noted that she should drink more water and they had been watching for low fluid levels. Maeve's fluid levels had actually increased by her final appointment, so I don't think Joan was leaking.
Can't link the Yelp review because it contains personal info and mods removed it the last time. It's pretty easy to find though.
It's Back Cove.
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Thanks, I re read the review and it does seem like there are some issues - I do have to wonder about whether Maeve would have survived if she had been induced or if something would have happened. It just seems like Joan needs some serious counselling before she has another babyHelloSweetie wrote:I've seen it mentioned in other posts so I don't think that's the private info the mods were concerned about (I hope!).jess595 wrote:What is the name of the Midwifery practice?HelloSweetie wrote:Just re-read the Yelp review and it really does make Joan sound like a neurotic mess. They mention that the midwife was always more concerned with treating Joan's anxiety than with treating Maeve. At one point he uses he line (if it's even John)...."at a typical unscheduled appointment." Apparently calling because she felt the baby wasn't moving enough was common, but Maeve would pass NSTs each time. They also had 3 ultrasounds completed at 35/36 weeks at different places, and concluded that Maeve was fine (though Joan of course believes they show Maeve was losing weight).
They also mention Joan's history of addiction at one point, and say that she was prescribed holistic medications and Adavan for anxiety that they believe she shouldn't have been due to 80% alcohol content. Naturally she didn't take them because she did everything right . The post has such an indignant and aggressive tone.
It says nothing about leaking fluid on the morning they went in, and does actually mention that it had previously been noted that she should drink more water and they had been watching for low fluid levels. Maeve's fluid levels had actually increased by her final appointment, so I don't think Joan was leaking.
Can't link the Yelp review because it contains personal info and mods removed it the last time. It's pretty easy to find though.
It's Back Cove.
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It's been discussed before that if monitored correctly healthy babies with the same issue are born just finejess595 wrote:Thanks, I re read the review and it does seem like there are some issues - I do have to wonder about whether Maeve would have survived if she had been induced or if something would have happened. It just seems like Joan needs some serious counselling before she has another babyHelloSweetie wrote:I've seen it mentioned in other posts so I don't think that's the private info the mods were concerned about (I hope!).jess595 wrote: What is the name of the Midwifery practice?
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Why hasn't someone in their life gotten her help? Seriously. Some of her posts come across as suicidal.
All of her posts come across as needing serious mental help.
Either she's so far gone and rude to her friends and family they don't care, or she doesn't act like her posts would lead you to believe and the posts are all for show ($$).
There is NO way I would sit by and watch my sister, daughter, friend, coworker post the things she does and not intervene.
All of her posts come across as needing serious mental help.
Either she's so far gone and rude to her friends and family they don't care, or she doesn't act like her posts would lead you to believe and the posts are all for show ($$).
There is NO way I would sit by and watch my sister, daughter, friend, coworker post the things she does and not intervene.
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It seems like they _were_ monitoring her. If they had been really concerned about the growth restriction, they would have had her head straight in, rather than scheduling her for an induction a few days out. Nothing makes sense. On thecruelwinter wrote:It's been discussed before that if monitored correctly healthy babies with the same issue are born just finejess595 wrote:Thanks, I re read the review and it does seem like there are some issues - I do have to wonder about whether Maeve would have survived if she had been induced or if something would have happened. It just seems like Joan needs some serious counselling before she has another babyHelloSweetie wrote: I've seen it mentioned in other posts so I don't think that's the private info the mods were concerned about (I hope!).
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one hand, she makes it sound like they were blowing off her concerns, but the post about the NST and John riding his bike, and her joking, makes it sound like nobody was really worried, including her, and it was a total shock. The fact that they were told they didn't have a case for malpractice also makes me think that they were caring for her appropriately, and it was just a horrible "act of God" for lack of a better term.
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