E+J - Fake Happy Campers | Part 27
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Funny, a video of theirs from around the time Calvin was 4-5 months came up in my suggested videos the other day so I watched it, and was thinking how much cuter Calvin was as a baby. I always thought he would get cuter as a toddler but.... I've thought it went the opposite. I will have to watch today's vlog.
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When Jared said "This will be the perfect time to build this together" and called Calvin over, Calvin did that annoying whine thing he does, but seeing him work with Jared and use that drill WAS pretty cute. He seemed more engaged than I've ever seen him. I assume Jackson is teaching him, because all Ellie ever does is rock him like a baby.
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E+J - Fake Happy Campers | Part 27
Random thoughts while watching:
Their backyard looks like shit. The level part is like a postage stamp of grass, and the rock wall part looks so fucking dangerous for a home with little kids.
I like how Jared had to say "oh cause you got your eyebrows done like Ellie?" when Bonnie was talking. Didn't Bonnie talk about planning to get them done well before Ellie ever did?
Jared is talking about how much he loves the backyard and all I've heard Ellie say is "I can't wait for trees" and "a chicken coop next year". Is this bitch EVER happy with what she has?
The plane part was cute until Ellie's mug had to get involved, then I fast forwarded on and off. Does it drive anyone else nuts the way she constantly glances at the camera? Calvin seems much more "his age" during that scene. Not sure if he's getting cuter physically and still seemed whiney, but I'm glad Jared was encouraging him to say words and actually doing an age appropriate activity with him. Let's hope it continues!
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Their backyard looks like shit. The level part is like a postage stamp of grass, and the rock wall part looks so fucking dangerous for a home with little kids.
I like how Jared had to say "oh cause you got your eyebrows done like Ellie?" when Bonnie was talking. Didn't Bonnie talk about planning to get them done well before Ellie ever did?
Jared is talking about how much he loves the backyard and all I've heard Ellie say is "I can't wait for trees" and "a chicken coop next year". Is this bitch EVER happy with what she has?
The plane part was cute until Ellie's mug had to get involved, then I fast forwarded on and off. Does it drive anyone else nuts the way she constantly glances at the camera? Calvin seems much more "his age" during that scene. Not sure if he's getting cuter physically and still seemed whiney, but I'm glad Jared was encouraging him to say words and actually doing an age appropriate activity with him. Let's hope it continues!
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Ugh Ellie's bitch face is awful and those brows dont help. Her arms always crossed, looking away from camera, maybe she's insecure about her brows. But she seems unhappy with her yard and trying hard to find positive things about it like the cool "rock".. yeah okay. If Ellie's going to be moody faced on the vlog I'd love to hear how she's feeling or what she's going through...but idk.
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If Ellie hadn't been in such a hurry to get started on her Barbie Dream Home before that had the money, they might have been able to afford a nicer lot. She convinced Jared to buy earlier than planned because that lot was a bargain, and didn't care why it was such a deal. Now they have wasted a ton of money trying to put lipstick on a pig and improve a yard that just isn't ideal. She won't be happy because it's impossible to make that hard better. They are wasting money at this point, and Ellie should learn to be more patient in the future. But she won't.
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Ugh I hate how Ellie is always sitting or standing like gollum, huntched forward, neck sticking out. She really needs to fix her posture! I know I sound like a grandma, and nitpicky. But kinda weird now that I think about it, when I struggled with eating issues and feeling sad in high school I always sat exactly like Ellie. When she's happy, which is rare her head is up, she's engaging in conversation, back straight. I really do think she's going through a depression, and she isn't getting the proper help she needs. Just stupid "appreciate the past, look forward to the future and be happy with the present" pep talks from Jared, keeps her happy for 1.5 minutes.
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It really irritates me that she is almost always carrying him like a fucking baby. Sometimes it even looks likes she's nursing/breast feeding (not against it, just an observation).Pency wrote:When Jared said "This will be the perfect time to build this together" and called Calvin over, Calvin did that annoying whine thing he does, but seeing him work with Jared and use that drill WAS pretty cute. He seemed more engaged than I've ever seen him. I assume Jackson is teaching him, because all Ellie ever does is rock him like a baby.
Why is she so insistent on keeping that child in infancy is beyond me.
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Did she really talk about a chicken coop? Where the hell will they put it? Jackson's room?blahblahblahhh wrote:Random thoughts while watching:
Their backyard looks like shit. The level part is like a postage stamp of grass, and the rock wall part looks so fucking dangerous for a home with little kids.
I like how Jared had to say "oh cause you got your eyebrows done like Ellie?" when Bonnie was talking. Didn't Bonnie talk about planning to get them done well before Ellie ever did?
Jared is talking about how much he loves the backyard and all I've heard Ellie say is "I can't wait for trees" and "a chicken coop next year". Is this bitch EVER happy with what she has?
The plane part was cute until Ellie's mug had to get involved, then I fast forwarded on and off. Does it drive anyone else nuts the way she constantly glances at the camera? Calvin seems much more "his age" during that scene. Not sure if he's getting cuter physically and still seemed whiney, but I'm glad Jared was encouraging him to say words and actually doing an age appropriate activity with him. Let's hope it continues!
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She's mentioned several times that there will be a chicken coop in the very top corner of the yard next year.
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I can't see her raising chickens. So trendy.Pency wrote:She's mentioned several times that there will be a chicken coop in the very top corner of the yard next year.
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My daughter says there's a Baby Calvin snapchat filter.. anyone else think that when they've used it on themselves?
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You don't have to dig as far back as her teen pics, the other day l left YouTube on after watching Vlog and it looped back to a video where Jackson is a baby (before she was pregnant with Calvin) and they were with Katie and Cullen in Florida for what l think was spring break. I wouldn't of recognized Ellie!!! Fuller arms, fuller face, no makeup and zero dark circles around her eyes. Interestingly she seemed fun and light hearted. Made jokes and seemed to have a likable personality. It made me realize something very profound and deep has gone on with her. She's a different person than just two years ago. What happened? Could something have happened involving Calvin/Calvin's birth that they opted not to share? It also made me more convinced she's not naturally 88lbs soaking wet and she definitely has an eating disorder.lily_moon wrote:. 100% true. She was a good 15 to 20 lbs heavier and looked great in some of her teen pics. Ok someone needs to find the pics for a comparison.HelloSweetie wrote:Why imply she's thin on purpose???? Why oh why oh why?Maelin wrote: She's not naturally thin? She's been thin (very thin) in every video they've ever posted that she wasn't pregnant. They posted pictures of her as a teen where she was very thin. Also Julie and Ruby are very thin.
(Personal) I'm 5'8" and I weigh a whopping 98 lbs. (today....it varies but never over 103.) I look a lot like Ellie, except I'm a good bit taller so I actually look worse. It's rude to talk about a heavy person's weight, but it's fair game if they're small. I get comments constantly, and it's completely out of my control.
Additionally, Ellie has been saying FOR YEARS that she is unhappy with how small she is, and would like to gain some weight. So why imply that she is this thin on purpose?
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See what she eats? Notice how she controls the portions of food for those around her? Ever notice she shares meals with Jared when they go to restaurants?
She says she was always that thin, but she's lying. Teenage Ellie was still thin, but quite a bit larger than she is now. In case you haven't realized by now.... she lies.
She does it all for attention. (Uh hello) just like everything in her life. She thinks being dumb and skinny is a great thing.(and I am also skinny so I'm not hating on that )
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I am so sorry that some posters are offended by those of us talking about Eli's weight. Please realize there's such a difference being naturally thin, and between blasting your life all over the internet as "goals" to a bunch of preteen girls while hiding a dark secret because you're to emotionally immature to admit that #1 you need help #2 you care more about being admired than you do about living an honest life where you admit you fall short and are human. Pride comes before the fall.
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On a different note (yes l realized the topic has been covered ad nauseam but it will never stop shocking me) l guess when you post your 3yr old on the internet in his underwear you may as well let him galavant through the neighbor in them. Those poor kids. You tube needs to do something!
The mom on JHouse vlogs wouldn't allow her husband to record their 2 month old in her arms the other day because she was just wearing a diaper. Ballinger 's channel Mom has taken a similar stand in vlogs. I wonder what these woman think of some of the moms on YouTube that they're "friends" with who exploit their kids on a weekly basis?
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The mom on JHouse vlogs wouldn't allow her husband to record their 2 month old in her arms the other day because she was just wearing a diaper. Ballinger 's channel Mom has taken a similar stand in vlogs. I wonder what these woman think of some of the moms on YouTube that they're "friends" with who exploit their kids on a weekly basis?
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I definitely think a lot of Ellie's problems started after Calvin's birth. Undiagnosed and untreated PPD is my guess, because she was a COMPLETELY different person right before she got pregnant with Cal.
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I think we just didn't notice what she was like at the time for various reasons.Pency wrote:I definitely think a lot of Ellie's problems started after Calvin's birth. Undiagnosed and untreated PPD is my guess, because she was a COMPLETELY different person right before she got pregnant with Cal.
She didn't seem as shallow because she didn't spend as much money simply because they didn't have as much.
She seems like a loving mother because she only had Jackson to look after. The house was smaller (and so was Jackson), so there was no place to make him play except the closet. He still had hardly any toys though.
She seemed like a kind and giving person because she talked about how kind and giving she was. We still haven't actually seen this is action though.
If she gets pregnant again and completely turns her back on Cal and starts to shun him, then I think it can be argued that she's exactly the same as before. Our perception has just changed. We watch her body language more, and listen to her words less.
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I think you have a point, HS, but a while back we were discussing Ellie's video she made for her channel right after she found out she was pregnant with Cal. She was talking about her symptoms, etc. The differences between that Ellie and the Ellie we saw when she was pregnant this last time were striking. I just don't know how she could have hid her true nature that well, unless something changed her. PPD is just a guess but I'm no mental health professional -- it could just be the YouTube money/negativity the internet brings has brought out more of the ruthless bitch in her.
ETA: I know a lot of you don't think Ellie was actually pregnant, but I just...am not really comfortable making that assumption for personal reasons.
ETA: I know a lot of you don't think Ellie was actually pregnant, but I just...am not really comfortable making that assumption for personal reasons.
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I think one of the things that helps change her was that praise started to fade. A few years ago she was the top Griffiths sister. She had the money, fame and success. Now she shares the fame and success, and gets far more criticism and less praise. Ellie isn't winning anymore, and I think she would usually go full bitch in reaction to this (take her toys and go home), except she can't, because there is no other way for her and Jared to ever make that much money again. She's trapped.
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Again though..... you have an amazing platform being a successful Youtuber to talk openly about that. Maybe she doesn't see it. Unless many conversations that are contrary to the dynamic we see between them have occurred, I majorly side eye Jared for that. Love is not always telling the other person how amazing they are for the way they breath and bake and parent and every other thing they do.... IMO real love is saying "something is not right with you and l am worried. When l look at our videos from just 2years ago l realize you don't seem as happy now as you did then. I love you more than l do our success or our YouTube channel (you know Jared would never say that) who cares what people think, go get help.Pency wrote:I definitely think a lot of Ellie's problems started after Calvin's birth. Undiagnosed and untreated PPD is my guess, because she was a COMPLETELY different person right before she got pregnant with Cal.
What a great example to their young viewers and l would bet if they opened up about more than their fake fertility issues they'd win back a lot of their adult viewers.
Not to bring them up again (although l find them to be such a much needed YouTube breath of fresh air) but The Dad and Mom from JHouse vlogs just recently posted multiple times about how they were both seeking counseling for their own issues and to grow in their marriage. She also openly talked about her generalized anxiety disorder, depression, and postpartum depression with all 5 babies.They continue to gain subscribers at a rapid pace and the comments section is actual adults not just 11 yr olds looking for a shout out for their birthday.
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Oh yeah girl you hit the nail on the head here.HelloSweetie wrote:I think one of the things that helps change her was that praise started to fade. A few years ago she was the top Griffiths sister. She had the money, fame and success. Now she shares the fame and success, and gets far more criticism and less praise. Ellie isn't winning anymore, and I think she would usually go full bitch in reaction to this (take her toys and go home), except she can't, because there is no other way for her and Jared to ever make that much money again. She's trapped.
I love this discussion because you're SO RIGHT. Especially this part here. One thing I love so much about my husband is how he calls me out when I need it. Jared walks on eggshells with Ellie, being sure to always tell her how grateful he is that she cooks and how pretty she is, but a partner supports your physical and mental well-being. He seems to do neither of those things well.jaynshann wrote: Love is not always telling the other person how amazing they are for the way they breath and bake and parent and every other thing they do.... IMO real love is saying "something is not right with you and l am worried. When l look at our videos from just 2years ago l realize you don't seem as happy now as you did then. I love you more than l do our success or our YouTube channel (you know Jared would never say that) who cares what people think, go get help.
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I know there are some Mormons on this board -- can somebody tell me what the Mormon stance is on therapy? I have a couple of super religious friends who think "therapy" is going to talk to their preacher who doesn't have anything beyond a Bachelor's degree in religious studies.
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I get that... but what's undeniable and shocking is the physical difference. She looks like a different person compared to just 2years ago. I don't pay much attention to their personality because every YouTube Mom l have watched more than 1-2 years has changed personality wise( with Katie being the exception) but Missy looks like Missy give or take 5-10lbs in videos 4 years ago.HelloSweetie wrote:I think we just didn't notice what she was like at the time for various reasons.Pency wrote:I definitely think a lot of Ellie's problems started after Calvin's birth. Undiagnosed and untreated PPD is my guess, because she was a COMPLETELY different person right before she got pregnant with Cal.
She didn't seem as shallow because she didn't spend as much money simply because they didn't have as much.
She seems like a loving mother because she only had Jackson to look after. The house was smaller (and so was Jackson), so there was no place to make him play except the closet. He still had hardly any toys though.
She seemed like a kind and giving person because she talked about how kind and giving she was. We still haven't actually seen this is action though.
If she gets pregnant again and completely turns her back on Cal and starts to shun him, then I think it can be argued that she's exactly the same as before. Our perception has just changed. We watch her body language more, and listen to her words less.
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