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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:39 am

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Jeybee27 wrote:Pet peeve:
When people think everyone in the thread flip flops all day long. Saying things like "you're mad if she takes all the kids, you're mad if she spends time with one of the kids alone" (jess thread)
Like there's a bunch of people on there. Everyone has different opinions. It's not the same people bitching about something then contradicting themselves.
Idk if it had been said before. But it's just annoying.


Its not always the same posters bitching, but quite often it is. I don't follow the Jess board, but on the ones I do frequent a lot of the harshest critics really do flip flop and its noticeable. When there are a small handful of posters that you can count on to get incensed no matter what a vlogger is doing, then it's pretty obvious they don't give a shit how said vlogger is doing things, and just want to rip them apart regardless. If you read these boards everyday, you get to know people and remember their positions on things, and even personal details they have shared.

Like someone revealing they let their kid play alone in the backyard, but then later wanting to rip apart a vlogger they hate for doing the same thing. This isn't a case of different people having different opinions. It is literally someone flip flopping on their position based on the day/board they are on.

Like I said I don't follow the Jess board though, so it's possible that one is different.


What is your obsession with me letting my kid play in the back yard? Yes I used to do that. Not anymore since his 19 month old little brother can't go out there with him and gets jealous. My anger was towards Bonnie letting a toddler go in the front yard by themselves. A 3 year old in a fenced back yard is much different than a toddler or 3 year old alone in the front yard or a toddler alone in the back yard...


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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby IceCreamCone » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:05 am

MommaLindsey2 wrote:
What is your obsession with me letting my kid play in the back yard? Yes I used to do that. Not anymore since his 19 month old little brother can't go out there with him and gets jealous. My anger was towards Bonnie letting a toddler go in the front yard by themselves. A 3 year old in a fenced back yard is much different than a toddler or 3 year old alone in the front yard or a toddler alone in the back yard...

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Oh, it's different now because you no longer do it (but only because it isn't as convenient). Got it. So you sent your child outside just fine before, but don't now because it's no longer as simple right? So why nitpick other moms for sending their kids outside to play. I can go find the original quote. It was originally referring to the laziness of moms that send their kids out to play, and then you mentioned a time that the kids were in the front. The vlogs leading up to the comment you made were 100% showing the kids playing outside together (8,6 and 4).

But this comment wasn't about you exactly, this was an example of something someone recalled that a poster said, that later is in contrast to what they are preaching. Sorry if it triggered you.


Another example? Posters that admit that they do YT, that later make posts ripping YTers apart for exploiting their kids and trying to make money.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby menehune » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:16 am

MommaLindsey2 wrote:What is your obsession with me letting my kid play in the back yard? Yes I used to do that. Not anymore since his 19 month old little brother can't go out there with him and gets jealous. My anger was towards Bonnie letting a toddler go in the front yard by themselves. A 3 year old in a fenced back yard is much different than a toddler or 3 year old alone in the front yard or a toddler alone in the back yard...
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I'm the one that remembered you said that and made the original comment about it not ICC.

I agree, it's pretty hypocritical to throw shade about kids playing alone outside when you've admitted to letting a three year old do it. You just didn't remember saying that.

You also tend to go easier on Ellie and Jared who let their kids play out in the front all the time because their backyard is such disaster of hill and rock. Unlike the older Hoellein kids, those kids are both 2/3.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:59 am

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MommaLindsey2 wrote:What is your obsession with me letting my kid play in the back yard? Yes I used to do that. Not anymore since his 19 month old little brother can't go out there with him and gets jealous. My anger was towards Bonnie letting a toddler go in the front yard by themselves. A 3 year old in a fenced back yard is much different than a toddler or 3 year old alone in the front yard or a toddler alone in the back yard...
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I'm the one that remembered you said that and made the original comment about it not ICC.

I agree, it's pretty hypocritical to throw shade about kids playing alone outside when you've admitted to letting a three year old do it. You just didn't remember saying that.

You also tend to go easier on Ellie and Jared who let their kids play out in the front all the time because their backyard is such disaster of hill and rock. Unlike the older Hoellein kids, those kids are both 2/3.


What the fuck no I don't go easy on Ellie and Jared. I hate them and the only one I go easy on is Calvin because I could never hate on a child. Yes I did let a 3 year old play outside by himself, I checked him every couple minutes and we have a wooden privacy fence, there aren't even any trees to climb and get hurt on.

My only concern was bonnies children out FRONT or unsupervised for longer than a few minutes. I would never do that. Maybe when my kids are much older. And Boston was 3 at the time or maybe even two when he was out front by himself. Just because Olivia is older doesn't mean she can supervise 3 younger siblings. Everyone knows Bonnie doesn't give a shit about safety. Her kids weren't even in proper car seats or boosters for an entire month in Hawaii. They also wear no helmets on bikes or even four wheelers. It's going to take one of these kids getting seriously hurt before you people realize Bonnie isn't the amazing parent everyone thinks she is. You people don't know me or see me in vlogs so please stop attacking my parenting. I can watch bonnies vlogs and what she puts out there and judge her. She is a crappy parent when it comes to safety issues.


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YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:11 pm

But the kids weren't playing outside in the front in any of the vlogs preceding that comment. That was an incident two years ago, and didn't she think his dad was watching him? Regardless, some people prefer to discuss what they see in the vlogs daily, instead of always calling back last year.
The kids had been playing in the backyard daily since the end of school. Your comment implied that was somehow not ok.

There are pro DB posters that I find annoying, but I just eyeroll and ignore their posts. I don't need to try and prove each one wrong, or accuse posters of just loving a vlogger because I feel they are being held to a ridiculously high standard. No one on that board defends the poor safety choices of B&J (E&J)! There are just a few people that also think, safety aside, they do a lot of things right.

This is starting to happen with the C&K board as well. Are they perfect? No. Maybe they do feed their kids a crap diet, but that doesn't mean they aren't fantastic parents in a lot of respects. You win some, you lose some as a parent.... and you learn.

None of us here are perfect parents, and if people can't see that and truly think they are doing everything right, they are probably doing a lot more wrong due to a lack of self-awareness.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby MommaLindsey2 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:20 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:But the kids weren't playing outside in the front in any of the vlogs preceding that comment. That was an incident two years ago, and didn't she think his dad was watching him? Regardless, some people prefer to discuss what they see in the vlogs daily, instead of always calling back last year.
The kids had been playing in the backyard daily since the end of school. Your comment implied that was somehow not ok.

There are pro DB posters that I find annoying, but I just eyeroll and ignore their posts. I don't need to try and prove each one wrong, or accuse posters of just loving a vlogger because I feel they are being held to a ridiculously high standard. No one on that board defends the poor safety choices of B&J (E&J)! There are just a few people that also think, safety aside, they do a lot of things right.

This is starting to happen with the C&K board as well. Are they perfect? No. Maybe they do feed their kids a crap diet, but that doesn't mean they aren't fantastic parents in a lot of respects. You win some, you lose some as a parent.... and you learn.

None of us here are perfect parents, and if people can't see that and truly think they are doing everything right, they are probably doing a lot more wrong due to a lack of self-awareness.


The whole thing started with me saying Lincoln probably got hurt being in the back yard alone. Do I think a child his age should be alone even with an older sibling watching them? No. People jumped down my throat saying I let a 3 year old play alone, it's different than a 1 year old... do I let my 1 year old play alone? No. I never called myself a perfect parent. I do the best I can. I honestly don't think Bonnie does the best she can she is lazy in a lot of ways. Especially when it comes to safety. And yes I used the front yard as an example. How do we know she no longer does that, she might not film it anymore.


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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:22 pm

Another pet peeve.... rampant speculation without fact that becomes canon.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby menehune » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:34 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:Another pet peeve.... rampant speculation without fact that becomes canon.


What are you talking about? Vloggers film everything! If they didn't feed their children dinner it probably didn't happen ;)

If a vlogger is going to show you the worst of their parenting mistakes and not even seem to realize it's a bad idea, they probably aren't hiding much. It's the ones trying to create a certain image that make me question what might be left on the editing floor.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Nuna » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:44 pm

Whats wrong with not criticizing everything a vlogger does? Is it an all or nothing thing? That isn't how real life works for most people I would hope! Life isn't so black and white.

I hate a lot of the things E&J, Bonnie, DB, C&K etc do, but I don't post about it daily because most people really have it covered (there is no shortage of criticism!) Not unless it really heats me up anyway. When I do speak up though, it's usually because I feel expectations on that You Tuber have reached an unrealistic level. I guess this makes it seem like I love everything that vlogger does? Just offering the perspective that it doesn't, and that I shouldn't feel dismissed every time I post because my opinion is a threat to the firestorm.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby mydietsucks_1 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:39 pm

Nuna wrote:Whats wrong with not criticizing everything a vlogger does? Is it an all or nothing thing? That isn't how real life works for most people I would hope! Life isn't so black and white.

I hate a lot of the things E&J, Bonnie, DB, C&K etc do, but I don't post about it daily because most people really have it covered (there is no shortage of criticism!) Not unless it really heats me up anyway. When I do speak up though, it's usually because I feel expectations on that You Tuber have reached an unrealistic level. I guess this makes it seem like I love everything that vlogger does? Just offering the perspective that it doesn't, and that I shouldn't feel dismissed every time I post because my opinion is a threat to the firestorm.


We can only see what you write. So if you agree with a lot of posts but dont vocalise it by writing a post, all we see is the ones defending them. Does that make sense? To avoid it you should occasionally join a topic about something you agree with, even if you are only adding a little bit to the conversation.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Lurker2 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:22 pm

- "girly byyee"
- IP checks (for those of you who aren't savvy on this, it's easy to make it seem like you have a different IP so this check is sometimes useless.)
- "I'm not going to get into x discussion but here's my opinion anyway"
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby smom12 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:55 am

When people accuse you of being two users even after an IP check who don't bother to do an IP check themselves.


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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Kryptonite » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:39 am

IP checks are not useless. Mods can tell who is using a proxy...
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Lurker2 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:59 am

Kryptonite wrote:IP checks are not useless. Mods can tell who is using a proxy...

But what about vpn?
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Kryptonite » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:03 pm

Lurker2 wrote:
Kryptonite wrote:IP checks are not useless. Mods can tell who is using a proxy...

But what about vpn?

Multiple VPNs are spotted fairly easily as well.

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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Lurker2 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:20 pm

Kryptonite wrote:
Lurker2 wrote:
Kryptonite wrote:IP checks are not useless. Mods can tell who is using a proxy...

But what about vpn?

Multiple VPNs are spotted fairly easily as well.

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Well then let me revise my statement:
IP checks, feels like it's sometimes used for people's entertainment because they have nothing to contribute to the topic. (And I'm not talking about the mods performing the checks, I'm talking about people requesting them)
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Kryptonite » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:22 pm

Lurker2 wrote:
Kryptonite wrote:
Lurker2 wrote:[quote="Kryptonite"]IP checks are not useless. Mods can tell who is using a proxy...

But what about vpn?

Multiple VPNs are spotted fairly easily as well.

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Well then let me revise my statement:
IP checks, feels like it's sometimes used for people's entertainment because they have nothing to contribute to the topic. (And I'm not talking about the mods performing the checks, I'm talking about people requesting them)[/quote]

Agreed. Just wanted to let people know that an IP check can be useful! :)

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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby blackroses » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:08 pm

Definitely, people requesting IP checks for dumb shit is annoying
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby NoDramaMama » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:29 pm

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Website has been reported to Internet Crime Division and you will be receiving emails and or calls. People have went above and beyond to destroy okbabys life by reporting them to cps again and posting their address over multiple threats. The creator of this website will be charged as an accessory if anything was to happen to this poor family. Patiently waiting for the day this bulls hit is permanently removed.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby ferriswheel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:24 pm

When someone finds a youtubers (possible?) new address and the threads become a mess of people asking for links. It's against the rules for a reason.



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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby HelloSweetie » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:37 pm

NoDramaMama wrote:Post for MOD

Website has been reported to Internet Crime Division and you will be receiving emails and or calls. People have went above and beyond to destroy okbabys life by reporting them to cps again and posting their address over multiple threats. The creator of this website will be charged as an accessory if anything was to happen to this poor family. Patiently waiting for the day this bulls hit is permanently removed.


I don't even follow them but if they have had CPS called on them, and their address has been made public times before, then maybe it's time to start maintaining a more private life? Sure people shouldn't be calling CPS or posting where they live, but if I felt something I was doing was jeopardizing my family, I would also make more cautious choices.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby ferriswheel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:07 pm

NoDramaMama wrote:Post for MOD

Website has been reported to Internet Crime Division and you will be receiving emails and or calls. People have went above and beyond to destroy okbabys life by reporting them to cps again and posting their address over multiple threats. The creator of this website will be charged as an accessory if anything was to happen to this poor family. Patiently waiting for the day this bulls hit is permanently removed.

Coming on here and bragging about calling CPS is against the rules.
viewtopic.php?t=9915

Posting people's addresses is also against the rules.

Yes youtubers should exercise more caution with the information they put in videos, but a website full of mostly adults shouldn't be handing out links/posting them on a public website anyone can see.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby NoDramaMama » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:54 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
NoDramaMama wrote:Post for MOD

Website has been reported to Internet Crime Division and you will be receiving emails and or calls. People have went above and beyond to destroy okbabys life by reporting them to cps again and posting their address over multiple threats. The creator of this website will be charged as an accessory if anything was to happen to this poor family. Patiently waiting for the day this bulls hit is permanently removed.


I don't even follow them but if they have had CPS called on them, and their address has been made public times before, then maybe it's time to start maintaining a more private life? Sure people shouldn't be calling CPS or posting where they live, but if I felt something I was doing was jeopardizing my family, I would also make more cautious choices.



You have to be kidding me right? Just because they make yt videos they deserve to be harassed and threatened? You're ignorant.
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YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby HelloSweetie » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:08 am

NoDramaMama wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:
NoDramaMama wrote:Post for MOD

Website has been reported to Internet Crime Division and you will be receiving emails and or calls. People have went above and beyond to destroy okbabys life by reporting them to cps again and posting their address over multiple threats. The creator of this website will be charged as an accessory if anything was to happen to this poor family. Patiently waiting for the day this bulls hit is permanently removed.


I don't even follow them but if they have had CPS called on them, and their address has been made public times before, then maybe it's time to start maintaining a more private life? Sure people shouldn't be calling CPS or posting where they live, but if I felt something I was doing was jeopardizing my family, I would also make more cautious choices.



You have to be kidding me right? Just because they make yt videos they deserve to be harassed and threatened? You're ignorant.


Not ignorant at all actually, just responsible enough to know that sometimes safety comes before convenience. Yes people shouldn't be harassed or threatened, but the world won't always protect you.... sometimes you need to guard yourself. Privacy is definitely one way to do it.

I have been the victim of stalking and harassment that wasn't my fault as well. I didn't ask for it, but at the same time, I took measures to protect myself and my children. YTers could be more careful as well. There are a lot more dangers out there than people posting on a gossip site.

And NOWHERE in my post did I say they deserve it. Just saying that if its happened before, they certainly knew the potential for more crazy was there.
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Re: YTMD Pet Peeves

Postby Jeybee27 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:43 am

I've seen it happen Before. Like when jess got her new house someone found it based on the blue carpet. To me that's creepy and obsessed. Why do you need to know how much she paid for the house or where it's at. I believe there was people asking for the link to the realtor listing and someone actually PMed it to people. I get it's a gossiping site but that's too much.
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