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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby Nothankyou » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:22 am

jaynshann wrote:
luci417 wrote:I'm not one of those people who thinks the only way to raise a kid well is to settle down in the suburbs with a huge planet destroying car and a dog, but june is WAY too young for all of this travelling. She's getting to the age where a routine would make her feel much more settled and content and there's just no way she's going to get one now. I think roadtripping with a baby is fine (it's not FUN but whatever) as long as you're driving in a car to a location where you a) know where you're staying b) are staying in a house/hotel/actual structure that's not exposed to the elements. For first time parents they seem so...careless. Don't get me wrong - overprotective first time parents who think everything has to revolve around their kid and obsess over danger and how everything around them affects their precious angel child are annoying and tiresome. BUT imo that 'holy shit im responsible for this human who is the most precious thing in the world to me' faded very quickly for them and it was replaced by this arrogance I find unnerving. Honestly I'm scared that June is going to get, say, an ear infection and end up with hearing loss because these idiots don't believe in antibiotics.


Seriously!! I use to nanny for a couple who were both Naturopaths. I took care of their kids between 60-70 hours a week spread over 6 days. I worked for them 5yrs. When l started working for them their youngest was 3 months old. By the time he was 2 1/2 he had partial hearing loss that affected his speech because he had repeatedly gotten infections which his parents refused to treat with antibiotics. 2 or 3 of his infections resulted in his ear drum bursting in his sleep. I will never forget how heartbreaking it was to see him in agony and screaming and watching his parents unsuccessfully try to
treat his infections with Oregano oil, colidel silver, Echinacea achia etc. Their eldest got whooping cough in 3rd grade and she hospitalized du to the fact that he had of course not had a single vaccination. I am all for natural but there is a time where Western medicine is the only reasonable solution. Antibiotics etc save lives when used correctly.


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While on this topic, does anyone know if they mentioned June receiving her 2 months vaccines? I know many people do immunizations on a delayed schedule, and it wouldn't surprise me if K&C decide to go that route. But surely if she has received any shots we would have heard them complaining about how terrible it is, poor baby June, or what an incredibly amazing and strong baby she was while getting them.


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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:47 am

Nothankyou wrote:
jaynshann wrote:
luci417 wrote:I'm not one of those people who thinks the only way to raise a kid well is to settle down in the suburbs with a huge planet destroying car and a dog, but june is WAY too young for all of this travelling. She's getting to the age where a routine would make her feel much more settled and content and there's just no way she's going to get one now. I think roadtripping with a baby is fine (it's not FUN but whatever) as long as you're driving in a car to a location where you a) know where you're staying b) are staying in a house/hotel/actual structure that's not exposed to the elements. For first time parents they seem so...careless. Don't get me wrong - overprotective first time parents who think everything has to revolve around their kid and obsess over danger and how everything around them affects their precious angel child are annoying and tiresome. BUT imo that 'holy shit im responsible for this human who is the most precious thing in the world to me' faded very quickly for them and it was replaced by this arrogance I find unnerving. Honestly I'm scared that June is going to get, say, an ear infection and end up with hearing loss because these idiots don't believe in antibiotics.


Seriously!! I use to nanny for a couple who were both Naturopaths. I took care of their kids between 60-70 hours a week spread over 6 days. I worked for them 5yrs. When l started working for them their youngest was 3 months old. By the time he was 2 1/2 he had partial hearing loss that affected his speech because he had repeatedly gotten infections which his parents refused to treat with antibiotics. 2 or 3 of his infections resulted in his ear drum bursting in his sleep. I will never forget how heartbreaking it was to see him in agony and screaming and watching his parents unsuccessfully try to
treat his infections with Oregano oil, colidel silver, Echinacea achia etc. Their eldest got whooping cough in 3rd grade and she hospitalized du to the fact that he had of course not had a single vaccination. I am all for natural but there is a time where Western medicine is the only reasonable solution. Antibiotics etc save lives when used correctly.


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While on this topic, does anyone know if they mentioned June receiving her 2 months vaccines? I know many people do immunizations on a delayed schedule, and it wouldn't surprise me if K&C decide to go that route. But surely if she has received any shots we would have heard them complaining about how terrible it is, poor baby June, or what an incredibly amazing and strong baby she was while getting them.


That's a very good point. I'm sure they would have made it total click bait. The risks of whooping cough or meningitis are far worse than a few seconds of crying! My cousin died pretty suddenly at age 3 from bacterial meningitis and that traumatized me for LIFE!

I think they are pro-vaccine, but they shouldn't delay them...especially with all this traveling. Even if they don't take June to VidCon, they are certainly going and could transfer something to her - especially if they are meeting lots of kids and adults they don't know. TOO RISKY!!!
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:54 am

Their apartment seems so packed with crap, especially now with the king-sized bed. Well, at least it was free and also a sponsor - and they can use it when they inevitably move to a new house in a few months. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby fossilfinger » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:37 pm

Their clickbait title was so stupid. I thought the "secret" would at least be somewhere oh-so-exciting they were traveling, but no. It's that they got a new "bed" (aka mattress on the floor). No one cares.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby crew96 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:44 pm

They'd have so much more storage if they got a bed frame and could shove stuff under it. Where will they store clothes she outgrows? They do not know how to live "tiny" properly.


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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:54 am

Maybe they were just tired, but Corbin and Kelsey sort of seemed hungover in today's road trip vlog.

And, LOL, they don't have any other friends other than DBs, where else would they be going!!?? Are they ditching June with Missy's parents? They can't be taking her to VidCon, especially without vaccines! Even the hotels are nasty!!
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby fossilfinger » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:12 am

ewokfan11 wrote:Maybe they were just tired, but Corbin and Kelsey sort of seemed hungover in today's road trip vlog.

And, LOL, they don't have any other friends other than DBs, where else would they be going!!?? Are they ditching June with Missy's parents? They can't be taking her to VidCon, especially without vaccines! Even the hotels are nasty!!


I REALLY hope they don't take her to VidCon, not only because of the vaccine issue but because it's so exploitative. There is absolutely nothing positive that June can get out of going to VidCon, but of course having her there will bring more attention to Kelsey and Corbin. I guess if they have a child minder watch her in the green room, it won't be as bad, but June will still have a bunch of strangers around her, a lot of them probably trying to interact with her, and it will probably be very overwhelming.

If June hates being in the car that much, I hope they cancel any future vacation plans they have for this summer, and have just Corbin drive to Idaho to pick up Paris.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby onbreak » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:53 am

Ugh, I just can't with these two right now
Thank goodness for their "friends"in the comments to keep them going.. it just bring exposure to their own channel

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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:07 am

This entire trip is for Kelsey and Corbin to make money. Sigh...YT is just so darn awful these days. I really don't think June is going to VidCon, that's just crazy!
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby helianthus » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:51 am

Can I just point out that it is basically child abuse to force a 3 month old baby into a car seat for 8 hours straight!?!? Babies are more than a digestive system, they need to be held and they need to be loved. Yes Kelsey tried "everything" to soothe her except stop, realize they are being selfish and not taking Juniper's needs into consideration and STOP the damn car and be parents. My son is also 3 months old and I can't imagine ignoring his cries for so long. Babies don't cry for no reason (although some reasons may be hard to understand as adults). Most of the stuff that everyone here complains about I don't agree with, or deem irrelevant but this is a serious issue. These two are traumatizing their child. I hope they learn from this first day and tune into their daughter's needs better. May not be the trip they dreamt of but things change when you have a kid. When I found out I was pregnant I was 19, living in a tent in an orchard pickin pesticide cherries, smoking cigarettes and eating out of cans. Things have changed dramatically and sure I miss that nomad life sometimes but I HAVE A CHILD. Kelsey and Corbin need a reality check. I really hope they figure it out for the sake of this little girl.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:28 am

Spray tans? Seriously??! I guess they will have to compete with Missy and Bryan who spent all day swimming and lounging by the pool (and probably get spray tans too). I doubt they would have done that a year ago, but I guess it's all part of their YT "glow up"! LOL
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby webbygurl626 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:33 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:Spray tans? Seriously??! I guess they will have to compete with Missy and Bryan who spent all day swimming and lounging by the pool (and probably get spray tans too). I doubt they would have done that a year ago, but I guess it's all part of their YT "glow up"! LOL


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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby bunny88 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:50 pm

Yeah they are so outdoorsy and they "love nature"

But they cant lay in the sun to get a real tan?

I know they live in Portland, but it's June... surely there are some sunny days, now?

And about that. If you love the outdoors so much, why would you live in a place that is so cloudy and rainy. I dont get it. (I live in Texas. It has been mostly warm and sunny since the beginning of February)
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:47 am

bunny88 wrote:Yeah they are so outdoorsy and they "love nature"

But they cant lay in the sun to get a real tan?

I know they live in Portland, but it's June... surely there are some sunny days, now?

And about that. If you love the outdoors so much, why would you live in a place that is so cloudy and rainy. I dont get it. (I live in Texas. It has been mostly warm and sunny since the beginning of February)


Unfortunately, Portland weather sucks about 80% of the year. I really don't remember "laying out" in the sun that often - and I spent most of my life there. June is a transition month and it definitely rains and doesn't get really warm. Most people in PDX don't even have A/C because it rarely gets actually hot! Portland's crappy weather is the main reason I moved away!

Growing up there, you really just have to learn to deal with rain, mud, gloom, wet clothes/shoes, playing sports on sopping wet fields, muddy pets, no sun for weeks, etc. The trade off is that there are about 2 months in the summer when it's really nice. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I moved to SWFL and don't miss Portland weather AT ALL! I don't get the feeling they are completely sold on PDX weather either - especially Kelsey. She didn't even live in Portland a full year before they went on their road trip. You could really tell she hated being out in the elements without a car over the winter. Southern Oregon, where she went to college, has MUCH better weather than Portland.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby HashtagBlessed » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:02 am

I think what I find funny is the fact that they're trying to say this spray tan was a "prank" or a "prank fail" that they did on themselves? That doesn't even make sense. They clearly wanted the tan and are now panicking because it looks fake and orange. I would never try something like that for the first time right before a wedding and a work conference. This seems to be a place that Corbin's family member frequents, but as a pale girl I wouldn't take spray tanning advice from someone who is already naturally darker than me. Fake tans on pale people are tricky and have to be very lightly applied. I don't think this tan is going to look natural on them any time soon.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby bunny88 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:49 am

ewokfan11 wrote:
bunny88 wrote:Yeah they are so outdoorsy and they "love nature"

But they cant lay in the sun to get a real tan?

I know they live in Portland, but it's June... surely there are some sunny days, now?

And about that. If you love the outdoors so much, why would you live in a place that is so cloudy and rainy. I dont get it. (I live in Texas. It has been mostly warm and sunny since the beginning of February)


Unfortunately, Portland weather sucks about 80% of the year. I really don't remember "laying out" in the sun that often - and I spent most of my life there. June is a transition month and it definitely rains and doesn't get really warm. Most people in PDX don't even have A/C because it rarely gets actually hot! Portland's crappy weather is the main reason I moved away!

Growing up there, you really just have to learn to deal with rain, mud, gloom, wet clothes/shoes, playing sports on sopping wet fields, muddy pets, no sun for weeks, etc. The trade off is that there are about 2 months in the summer when it's really nice. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I moved to SWFL and don't miss Portland weather AT ALL! I don't get the feeling they are completely sold on PDX weather either - especially Kelsey. She didn't even live in Portland a full year before they went on their road trip. You could really tell she hated being out in the elements without a car over the winter. Southern Oregon, where she went to college, has MUCH better weather than Portland.


Thank you for the information! That wad really interesting. I had no idea that it was rainy and cloudy that much! Portland sounds more like a nice place to visit during the lovely summer months than to live all year around (unless you love the rain)

I love having the occassional rainy day, but I love going swimming and laying out in the summer. Maybe they would be less annoying and mopey if they got more Vitamin D. I've heard that seasonal depression thing can be really bad up north.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:21 am

One of my best friends, who was raised im Northern California (in one of the inland valleys of the Bay Area where it gets nice and warm), and had a pool growing up, is living in Portland now. She has a sunlamp, and it's made a huge difference in her life. Maybe they would benefit from that if they're determined to be hipster Portland residents. My friend at least has a community of friends, so it's not like these two, who just seemed to decide to move there because it was cool.

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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby fossilfinger » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:09 pm

So the parading around of June has already started with their fifth grade classroom visit. I can just tell they're about to become the type of people who think they're A-list celebrities.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby luci417 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:57 pm

helianthus wrote:Can I just point out that it is basically child abuse to force a 3 month old baby into a car seat for 8 hours straight!?!? Babies are more than a digestive system, they need to be held and they need to be loved. Yes Kelsey tried "everything" to soothe her except stop, realize they are being selfish and not taking Juniper's needs into consideration and STOP the damn car and be parents. My son is also 3 months old and I can't imagine ignoring his cries for so long. Babies don't cry for no reason (although some reasons may be hard to understand as adults). Most of the stuff that everyone here complains about I don't agree with, or deem irrelevant but this is a serious issue. These two are traumatizing their child. I hope they learn from this first day and tune into their daughter's needs better. May not be the trip they dreamt of but things change when you have a kid. When I found out I was pregnant I was 19, living in a tent in an orchard pickin pesticide cherries, smoking cigarettes and eating out of cans. Things have changed dramatically and sure I miss that nomad life sometimes but I HAVE A CHILD. Kelsey and Corbin need a reality check. I really hope they figure it out for the sake of this little girl.


Ok I think you have a point but 'most things I deem irrelevant BUT LEAVING YOUR KID IN A CAR SEAT IS TRAUMATIZING CHILD ABUSE!!!!' is hilarious lmao. They're not traumatizing her at this age because it's not really possible for newborns to sustain emotional trauma. And it's not always possible (or necessary) to immediately rush to an infant's side every time they cry. That said, I agree if she's screaming and doing it for a long time then pull over and step outside to walk her around for a 10 minutes in the fresh air. It's kind of a safety issue to be driving with a loudly crying baby anyway, because it's super distracting and stressful. 8 hours is WAY too long for any child to be in a car seat (that's the part I'd consider abusive - for newborns the limit of sleeping uninterrupted in car seats is supposed to be around 2 hours) and she's getting very little stimulation like that. Why drive an insane distance with a miserable baby to unsuitable places she won't even remember? Can't they just admit that this trip, like everything they do, is really about themselves and just be done with it?
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:36 pm

Oh, but June's a little adventurer! She's a gypsy soul! She looooves these trips! Just like she loved meeting the Easter Bunny and camping.

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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby webbygurl626 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:06 pm

So a fifth grade class watches their vlogs during class seriously that teacher should be reported, what on earth are they going to learn from dumb and dumber! If my kids told me they were watching two adults daily lives in class I would be pissed I hope that teacher explained Corbin's disgusting sexual innuendos! I love the OG hipsters comment he really thinks he is hot stuff doesn't he, now I understand why they get along with DB they have matching egos!


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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby luci417 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:28 pm

lmmomSD wrote:Oh, but June's a little adventurer! She's a gypsy soul! She looooves these trips! Just like she loved meeting the Easter Bunny and camping.

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Damn you're right how could I forget about when she ran to sit on the Easter bunny's lap and then led the egg hunt? Or when she pitched the tent herself and then looked for sticks to start the campfire with? Not to mention when she begged to go on the ferris wheel! All amazing memories of her reacting to things and definitely not Just Being A Baby thankfully caught on camera. Precious memories :D :D :D .
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby ewokfan11 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:10 am

I really hope they are leaving June with Mini and Papa or Corbin's relatives when they are at VidCon with DBs. The GERMS at those conferences make adults sick! I was sort of surprised they took June to the wedding when it seemed like, again, Corbin's relatives could have watched her. It is getting a bit ridiculous how they drag her wherever THEY want to go - and it's really to make content.

And, holy crap, what teacher shows ANY vlogs in a classroom setting???!! But I did notice the kids didn't seem to have a CLUE who C&K were. Again, do it for the vlogs!

P.S. ImmonSD, yes, A LOT of people I know rely on sunlamps to get through the gloom of fall/winter/spring in Portland! Seasonal Affective Disorder in the PNW is pretty common.
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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby lmmomSD » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:32 am

ewokfan11 wrote:I really hope they are leaving June with Mini and Papa or Corbin's relatives when they are at VidCon with DBs. The GERMS at those conferences make adults sick! I was sort of surprised they took June to the wedding when it seemed like, again, Corbin's relatives could have watched her. It is getting a bit ridiculous how they drag her wherever THEY want to go - and it's really to make content.

And, holy crap, what teacher shows ANY vlogs in a classroom setting???!! But I did notice the kids didn't seem to have a CLUE who C&K were. Again, do it for the vlogs!

P.S. ImmonSD, yes, A LOT of people I know rely on sunlamps to get through the gloom of fall/winter/spring in Portland! Seasonal Affective Disorder in the PNW is pretty common.

I lived on Whidbey Island, which is in the rain shadow of the Cascades, so it only gets half the rain of Seattle (still a lot) I was fine, but I had friends who had to have sun lamps. They ought to check it out.

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Re: Steps to Whining: The Art of Entitlement

Postby Snow White » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:41 am

Every time Kelsey & Corbin go on about June being a daddy's girl, all I can think of is that video of him crying and whining that June was spending too much time
with Kelsey and how he couldn't calm her.

It feels so forced.
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