But Boston has been whining for longer than that. I hope it's a phase, but it's been longer than Cody's whining phase.nutbagmcgee wrote:Cody was a huge whiner from like 3-4. I remember everyone here complaining about what a whiner Cody was but thinking to myself that he was just a normal kid. The whining Boston does is normal. Lincoln will do it too.
Ditto.winniewise wrote:Maybe it's because I have a child entering in to the whining stage, but Boston's whining makes my skin crawl! I had to mute the other day when he came in from playing outside and started whining about being sprayed.
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I agree! Seeing Lincoln in that white onesie was cringeworthy. At least it was buttoned lol.HelloSweetie wrote:I agree with the hot mess comment.menehune wrote:I split my time between California and Hawaii, and it isn't weird to see kids out in rash guards at all. Lots of kids wear board short and rash guards on hot days...just like Cody and Boston usually have on. Kids need to have fun and play. If their clothes are clean, and their hair is tidy I think that's good enough.
I would probably side eye a mother that looks like a hot mess but has her children looking spotless just as much as one put together but with untidy children. There should be a happy medium somewhere there.
I still don't see a problem with the boys rash guard and board shorts either. I sort of see what people are saying about Linc's, but he's a baby and I still may not care if it's cute on him. I think that's better than just a onesie
My kids are always put together nicely as well, but on summer days I consider board shorts just fine. I hadn't noticed Olivia before, but I agree she should have worn something more... which is technically a double standard since the same look doesn't bother me on the boys.
I'm a Certified WSI (Water Safety Instructor) and taught lessons to a wide age range while I was in college. The children that start in the baby classes with their parents, tend to be less fearful than the older children. It actually isn't uncommon for children to fear swimming lessons, so while I certainly agree with the assessment that Katie's approach is better, I don't believe we can fault Bonnie for her kids being apprehensive.nc_mom wrote:I think Bonnie is always instilling unnecessary fear in her children. They would have been looking forward to swim lessons if she had said how much fun they were going to have. Instead she kept asking them if they were going to be "brave"? What nonsense is that? I've seen other videos of hers where she repeatedly asks the kids if they are "scared" of this or that. By using negative terms such as "being brave" or are you "scared" she is already telling them to predict something scary was going to happen. She certainly is no child psychologist lol! I think on the other hand C&K do the opposite in telling Gaines how much fun it's going to be and to keep the attitude upbeat and positive...but Katie is a child psychologist and it definitely shows in how she interacts with Gaines while Bonnie's kids are often fearful, negative and whiny.
Children being fearful isn't the issue she was pointing out. It's the fear-based approach and authoritative parenting, which I just personally hate.IceCreamCone wrote:I'm a Certified WSI (Water Safety Instructor) and taught lessons to a wide age range while I was in college. The children that start in the baby classes with their parents, tend to be less fearful than the older children. It actually isn't uncommon for children to fear swimming lessons, so while I certainly agree with the assessment that Katie's approach is better, I don't believe we can fault Bonnie for her kids being apprehensive.nc_mom wrote:I think Bonnie is always instilling unnecessary fear in her children. They would have been looking forward to swim lessons if she had said how much fun they were going to have. Instead she kept asking them if they were going to be "brave"? What nonsense is that? I've seen other videos of hers where she repeatedly asks the kids if they are "scared" of this or that. By using negative terms such as "being brave" or are you "scared" she is already telling them to predict something scary was going to happen. She certainly is no child psychologist lol! I think on the other hand C&K do the opposite in telling Gaines how much fun it's going to be and to keep the attitude upbeat and positive...but Katie is a child psychologist and it definitely shows in how she interacts with Gaines while Bonnie's kids are often fearful, negative and whiny.
I noticed Boston was fearful and insecure around the water in HI, and I'm sure he wasn't too happy when he heard Bonnie was signing him up for lessons. I think in his case the apprehension and resistance was already there, and Bonnie was just reacting to it. She could have used more positive terms, but its possible she started with that and Boston just wasn't having it.
But for a child Boston's age, it isn't unusual for them to have anxiety about lessons. This is why so many children fail to progress past the first few levels. Most overprotective parents will pull their kids and I was glad to see that Bonnie was firm and made him ride it out.
I didnt see a fear-based authoritative approach in that.. My mother was like that to us growing up, and STILL and I have 3 kids! lol. I keep my kids away from that woman. I see Bonnie as strict and tough but not authoritative. Since summer vacation has begun I see her reinstating some rules, some basic manners, some guidelines, which people critisied too, but there's nothing wrong with reminding kids "who is boss." Otherwise kids who rule the house like Ollie, for example, will make your life miserable.PostyMcPosterston wrote:Children being fearful isn't the issue she was pointing out. It's the fear-based approach and authoritative parenting, which I just personally hate.IceCreamCone wrote:I'm a Certified WSI (Water Safety Instructor) and taught lessons to a wide age range while I was in college. The children that start in the baby classes with their parents, tend to be less fearful than the older children. It actually isn't uncommon for children to fear swimming lessons, so while I certainly agree with the assessment that Katie's approach is better, I don't believe we can fault Bonnie for her kids being apprehensive.nc_mom wrote:I think Bonnie is always instilling unnecessary fear in her children. They would have been looking forward to swim lessons if she had said how much fun they were going to have. Instead she kept asking them if they were going to be "brave"? What nonsense is that? I've seen other videos of hers where she repeatedly asks the kids if they are "scared" of this or that. By using negative terms such as "being brave" or are you "scared" she is already telling them to predict something scary was going to happen. She certainly is no child psychologist lol! I think on the other hand C&K do the opposite in telling Gaines how much fun it's going to be and to keep the attitude upbeat and positive...but Katie is a child psychologist and it definitely shows in how she interacts with Gaines while Bonnie's kids are often fearful, negative and whiny.
I noticed Boston was fearful and insecure around the water in HI, and I'm sure he wasn't too happy when he heard Bonnie was signing him up for lessons. I think in his case the apprehension and resistance was already there, and Bonnie was just reacting to it. She could have used more positive terms, but its possible she started with that and Boston just wasn't having it.
But for a child Boston's age, it isn't unusual for them to have anxiety about lessons. This is why so many children fail to progress past the first few levels. Most overprotective parents will pull their kids and I was glad to see that Bonnie was firm and made him ride it out.
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That is authoritative. "Strict and tough" but she's also warm and loving. I'm not saying she has authoritarian parenting. I don't think many think authoritative is fine. I just don't like it.amyfalafal wrote:I didnt see a fear-based authoritative approach in that.. My mother was like that to us growing up, and STILL and I have 3 kids! lol. I keep my kids away from that woman. I see Bonnie as strict and tough but not authoritative. Since summer vacation has begun I see her reinstating some rules, some basic manners, some guidelines, which people critisied too, but there's nothing wrong with reminding kids "who is boss." Otherwise kids who rule the house like Ollie, for example, will make your life miserable.PostyMcPosterston wrote:Children being fearful isn't the issue she was pointing out. It's the fear-based approach and authoritative parenting, which I just personally hate.IceCreamCone wrote: I'm a Certified WSI (Water Safety Instructor) and taught lessons to a wide age range while I was in college. The children that start in the baby classes with their parents, tend to be less fearful than the older children. It actually isn't uncommon for children to fear swimming lessons, so while I certainly agree with the assessment that Katie's approach is better, I don't believe we can fault Bonnie for her kids being apprehensive.
I noticed Boston was fearful and insecure around the water in HI, and I'm sure he wasn't too happy when he heard Bonnie was signing him up for lessons. I think in his case the apprehension and resistance was already there, and Bonnie was just reacting to it. She could have used more positive terms, but its possible she started with that and Boston just wasn't having it.
But for a child Boston's age, it isn't unusual for them to have anxiety about lessons. This is why so many children fail to progress past the first few levels. Most overprotective parents will pull their kids and I was glad to see that Bonnie was firm and made him ride it out.
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Erg I meant to saying I don't think many think authoritative is NOT fine. As in, I think a lot of parents are strict and tough, but warm and loving, like Bonnie.PostyMcPosterston wrote:That is authoritative. "Strict and tough" but she's also warm and loving. I'm not saying she has authoritarian parenting. I don't think many think authoritative is fine. I just don't like it.amyfalafal wrote:I didnt see a fear-based authoritative approach in that.. My mother was like that to us growing up, and STILL and I have 3 kids! lol. I keep my kids away from that woman. I see Bonnie as strict and tough but not authoritative. Since summer vacation has begun I see her reinstating some rules, some basic manners, some guidelines, which people critisied too, but there's nothing wrong with reminding kids "who is boss." Otherwise kids who rule the house like Ollie, for example, will make your life miserable.PostyMcPosterston wrote: Children being fearful isn't the issue she was pointing out. It's the fear-based approach and authoritative parenting, which I just personally hate.
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Utah. Everyone is wonderful, and there are no predators.winniewise wrote:Did I miss something in today's vlog? To me it looked like the swim instructors released the kids to run to the car alone? Ive never heard of any kind of program for kids that doesn't release the kids directly to the parents.
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I suspect they kicked the Holliens out from the swim classes because of complaints from other parents about the vlogging, as alluded to by Joel in yesterday's video. Bonnie was probably to embarrassed to go watch her children this morning and boo hoo'ed to Joel, who then felt bad for his wife and brought her donuts while Lincoln was at home in his kennel.nutbagmcgee wrote:I can't believe she was sitting in the car while the kids were inside! That is crazy to me.
