Bonnie Hoellein: A Butt-Squeezing Good Time | Part 12

[Denlillehavfrue]

Adding my two cents here, for me its not the lack of preschool, but the lack of in home education. Learning numbers and alphabets can be fun, it doesn't have to be torturous. Even if Utah has a lower standard in terms of what they expect by Kindergarten, with two stay at home parents, it is not difficult to practice some letters and numbers daily for an hour.

Also, I get she wants Boston and Lincoln to have their time together but pre-school doesn't have to be daily.

[Caisflame]

I like preschool because it eases the children into going to "real" school all day. They start kindergarten knowing what to expect and are already familiar with a classroom and teacher setting. Going from staying at home with a parent all day to going to school from 8am-3pm is a big change for a 5-6 year old. However, I assume Boston will go to half day kindergarten like Olivia and Cody did.

[Kaylor1]

I have no issues with him staying home either. My just turned 5 year old is staying home one more year because she is not ready but the difference is I am making sure we are working together to get her prepared. I don't see Bonnie putting any effort into his learning. She even said "he has is whole life to learn his ABC'S." But most school kindergartners should already know them before entering.

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[PostyMcPosterston]

I think part-time preK would be great for Boston. I don't know why, but of all the children, I feel like he might do the best academically. I guess it's far too early to know. In my circles of moms and area of Houston, it'd be unheard of for children not to know ABCs, counting, colors, names, etc before preK.

I think it's disappointing, just from my biased POV, but I think Boston will do just fine once he enters kindergarten. He's been communicating very well for years, and he seems like he has a calm, curious personality.


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[lmmomSD]

I think part-time preK would be great for Boston. I don't know why, but of all the children, I feel like he might do the best academically. I guess it's far too early to know. In my circles of moms and area of Houston, it'd be unheard of for children not to know ABCs, counting, colors, names, etc before preK.

I think it's disappointing, just from my biased POV, but I think Boston will do just fine once he enters kindergarten. He's been communicating very well for years, and he seems like he has a calm, curious personality.


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Houston? Are you ok? I know it's probably a dumb question since you're posting here, but y'all are in my prayers!
I just don't understand the hesitation about learning with so many YouTubers. Just because so many of them were successful without an education, why wouldn't they want every opportunity for their children to do well? Roman Atwood's son, Shay's youngest, Boston and Cody, have all been kept out of school, and Missy with her "children are supposed to play, not sit at a deak and learn" BS, just baffle me. I know that there are YouTubers like Katie who value education, but they seem rare. The mom on Emma and Ellie let her older daughter change classes because they were "too hard", but went crazy with pride because she got a million subscribers on Musically. Skewed priorities...

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[PostyMcPosterston]

I think part-time preK would be great for Boston. I don't know why, but of all the children, I feel like he might do the best academically. I guess it's far too early to know. In my circles of moms and area of Houston, it'd be unheard of for children not to know ABCs, counting, colors, names, etc before preK.

I think it's disappointing, just from my biased POV, but I think Boston will do just fine once he enters kindergarten. He's been communicating very well for years, and he seems like he has a calm, curious personality.


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Houston? Are you ok? I know it's probably a dumb question since you're posting here, but y'all are in my prayers!
I just don't understand the hesitation about learning with so many YouTubers. Just because so many of them were successful without an education, why wouldn't they want every opportunity for their children to do well? Roman Atwood's son, Shay's youngest, Boston and Cody, have all been kept out of school, and Missy with her "children are supposed to play, not sit at a deak and learn" BS, just baffle me.

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All dry at my house. Flooding around me has gone down, thank you.

I think with YTers, they have the opportunity to be lazier and they're stay at home parents by default. So, there's no motivation to invest energy in educating toddlers and preschoolers. But also, it seems like there are many who are repeating the way their parents raised them. I'm curious to know if Jennifer or Suzanne have any education past high school? Although, I think Suzanne cares more about the boys' education in comparison to Jennifer. Ugh, cannot stand her.


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[natalka81]

I'm enjoying these vlogs more and more every day, which is the opposite to what I feel about all the other family vlogs I watch. But there's one thing I just can't get behind- why do so many youtubers, including Bonnie, eat regular meals on paper plates???? I don't get it.

[Boredomatitsfinest]

I'm enjoying these vlogs more and more every day, which is the opposite to what I feel about all the other family vlogs I watch. But there's one thing I just can't get behind- why do so many youtubers, including Bonnie, eat regular meals on paper plates???? I don't get it.

Well I know that Bonnie doesn't have a dishwasher (I've never heard of a house that doesn't have a dishwasher?) and they have to wash the dishes by hand soooo... paper plates = less dishes to wash. But then there's Ellie and Jared who had a dishwasher for years yet insisted on eating on paper plates and washing the dishes that they did use by hand?? I haven't really noticed any other vloggers doing that except for the Lumps occasionally, but I don't know. I don't get it either. Haha

[HelloSweetie]

I'm enjoying these vlogs more and more every day, which is the opposite to what I feel about all the other family vlogs I watch. But there's one thing I just can't get behind- why do so many youtubers, including Bonnie, eat regular meals on paper plates???? I don't get it.

Well I know that Bonnie doesn't have a dishwasher (I've never heard of a house that doesn't have a dishwasher?) and they have to wash the dishes by hand soooo... paper plates = less dishes to wash. But then there's Ellie and Jared who had a dishwasher for years yet insisted on eating on paper plates and washing the dishes that they did use by hand?? I haven't really noticed any other vloggers doing that except for the Lumps occasionally, but I don't know. I don't get it either. Haha

Yep. DB and E&J do this all the time. This has come up before on those boards and some people tend to get defensive because they often do it too. I hate the waste, and could never do that myself, but it's a polarizing issue for some.

And I don't have a dishwasher My kitchen is small and comparable in layout to Bonnie's and I just don't have the room to add one. Unlike Bonnie however, when we eventually renovate, I will 100% be expanding out and adding space for a dishwasher!

[lmmomSD]

Did she really not get a dishwasher because of the old "the way Jennifer did it is the only way to do it"? I remember Ellie boasting that she never used her dishwasher. Kinda ridiculous when she uses paper plates so much. I know Bonnie had limited space, but she has all that storage in the room Joel built her. I just think about incredibly wasteful to use paper plates all the time. The obliviousness of so many vloggers to their carbon footprint makes me really angry.

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[nc_mom]

They have used click bait in the worst possible way this morning. Olivia had an accident with a knife and nearly sliced open her finger and hand. The vlog heading in capital letters says she almost went into SHOCK! Then we see Olivia with blood pouring out of her hand laying on the floor while Bonnie phones Joel to come home. With profuse bleeding like that who would take the time to start filming? Wouldn't most decent mothers immediately take the child to the emergency room? These parents are either too dumb to know better or have fallen victim to the youTube phenomenon which has them doing everything possible to get viewers and subscribers....even at the cost of exploiting their own children. Disgusting behavior not to mention that they suck at parenting since this family are constantly having accidents. Little Lincoln was climbing in and out of an automatic recliner chair. Just imagine what would happen to his little legs had the chair started moving. Olivia and the others using knives. Teaching toddler Lincoln how to turn open the bathroom door knob, allowing the children to climb onto tables and counter tops. B&J might love their children but they don't have basic safety procedures or common sense in place at all.

[crowmtmom78]

What are everyone's thoughts on Bonnie keeping Boston home instead of sending to preschool. I understand Bonnie's reasons.... I agree 4 years of staying at home is nothing compared to a lifetime of learning but at the same time I have this fire to make sure I give my kids the best opportunities and prepare them the best I can for life.

I think preschool or Kindy (for those of us in Australia) is actually great for easing kids into school life - that way it's not so much of a shock to them once they get into school (particularly for kids who don't like change). Leaning to listen to other forms of authority, learning how to interact with peers (which is different to interacting primarily with siblings) and easing them into their education journey are great skills you gain from a structured Kindy program.

I'm curious to hear what others have done. Obviously Bonnie is doing a great job with her kids. So I can see that multiple approaches work. I do hope that Bonnie shows more educational interactions with the kids and not so much of them lounging and watching tv.

*Personal*
I only sent my son to Kindy for 1 day a week(as it was so overwhelming for him) but I supplemented his learning program from home. I was very hands on with his learning with the aim of preparing him effectively for school where he wouldn't be too stressed(struggles with anxiety).
It's all paid off as he's doing so well educationally and socially. *phew* I loved having him home and miss him terribly during the day now that he goes to school, so I totally get what Bonnie was saying about wanting him home. Haha!


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I think Boston will just fine without preschool. My son went into kindergarten after teaching himself how to read at 4. He didn't know how to color or cut, he had NO interest in learning those things before then. He knew his letters but couldn't write them. Yes, he would have benefited from preschool, but he quickly learned those skills and excelled. He is now in 8th grade on the A honor roll.

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[kathpt]

I don't see anything wrong with not making Boston go to pre-school before he's 4. Where I live that's standard when you're SAHM (before it's just a glorified nanny that is expensive af). We have 1 yr kindergarten before going to actual school, from 4-5. We're all fine.
We still learn colors and letters and how to color just fine.
What I think Boston this though is to play with kids his age that aren't his siblings or cousins. He seems bored all the time.

Yes and he just turned 4 so he is on the younger end but could be starting Pre K right now.
Kindergarten here (not sure where you live) is the first real year of Elementary school and it is 5-6 yrs old and is not optional. You are expected to have your child enrolled in school, online or home schooled at 5 (the dates vary on birthday some are September, some October etc) If they are a young 5 such as a Summer baby then sometimes they let them stay another year in Pre K if they aren't ready. 4 yrs old is optional here for Pre-K. There is private and public. Preschool is 2-3 yr olds, that is generally always private or a service at a daycare so you pay. Any younger just daycare really.

It is interesting to see how school's differ from state to state or even country to country.

I live in Portugal.
Actually in conversation with my mother the other night, I realised I got into school in special terms when I was 5 because I was a December kid. December 3 1990. Any kid born in 1991 would have to start school the first September they were 6. It's been 27 years and it still works the same.
They have all the time in the world to do learn their ABC's. So, in fact in Portugal kids start school when they're 6, and are usually in kindergarten/preschool for 1 year before that. One year is more than enough for kids to learn their ABC's, colors, how to write their name, count, etc. I'm not criticizing but I don't understand all this fuss about 4 year old kids not being in school. They're kids for heavens sake, they have time. These are their best years to play and have fun.

[HelloSweetie]

Did she really not get a dishwasher because of the old "the way Jennifer did it is the only way to do it"? I remember Ellie boasting that she never used her dishwasher. Kinda ridiculous when she uses paper plates so much. I know Bonnie had limited space, but she has all that storage in the room Joel built her. I just think about incredibly wasteful to use paper plates all the time. The obliviousness of so many vloggers to their carbon footprint makes me really angry.

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No, that was Ellie's reason why she didn't use hers in the old place (except she did use it and/or used paper plates all the time). Bonnie mentioned that without knocking out that wall they didn't have the space. Think about the bottom cabinets. Adding a dishwasher would make them lose at least two cabinets and they don't have that many in that tiny kitchen. She has storage in the basement, but who wants to keep their appliances and pots in the basement all the time?

[HelloSweetie]

They have used click bait in the worst possible way this morning. Olivia had an accident with a knife and nearly sliced open her finger and hand. The vlog heading in capital letters says she almost went into SHOCK! Then we see Olivia with blood pouring out of her hand laying on the floor while Bonnie phones Joel to come home. With profuse bleeding like that who would take the time to start filming? Wouldn't most decent mothers immediately take the child to the emergency room? These parents are either too dumb to know better or have fallen victim to the youTube phenomenon which has them doing everything possible to get viewers and subscribers....even at the cost of exploiting their own children. Disgusting behavior not to mention that they suck at parenting since this family are constantly having accidents. Little Lincoln was climbing in and out of an automatic recliner chair. Just imagine what would happen to his little legs had the chair started moving. Olivia and the others using knives. Teaching toddler Lincoln how to turn open the bathroom door knob, allowing the children to climb onto tables and counter tops. B&J might love their children but they don't have basic safety procedures or common sense in place at all.

I think Bonnie did the right thing in waiting for Joel. Olivia was clearly starting to panic, and had that same tone to her voice she had with the ear piercing. Bonnie probably only had the car, and wouldnt have been able to safely seat Olivia, Cody, Linc and give Olivia proper attention to calm her down. I've had to wait for my husband to arrive when my youngest had a bleeding hemangioma. Driving while your child is crying and bleeding just doesn't seem like the best idea if you can wait. I agree the title was in poor taste, but think Bonnie handled it really well. She and Joel were calm and focused on preparing and settling Olivia down before they left.

About the safety. We notice safety issues all the time with Bonnie, but for a family with 4 kids I don't actually think they have any more accidents than most families. Olivia cut herself with a butter knife, and unless you don't believe in letting kids help in the kitchen, that really could have happened to anyone. And while I wouldn't let my kids play with a recliner, the one B&J has is he old fashioned kind with tha crank handle. It's not the automatic kind, and those are hard enough to push down if you actually are sitting in them, it would be very unlikely sir Linc to push it down and crush himself, especially with Bonnie watching. Pinch... maybe.

I read here before watching, and I just didn't think it was as bad at all as suggested. Title aside of course.

[boredmamaneedsdrama]

Joel was mowing the lawn at Ellie and Jareds. It's a 5 minute drive. Bonnie most likely didn't have to wait for him very long.

[Sarai]

I think it's appalling to use clickbait saying Olivia went into shock when she didn't. And it should have been obvious she needed stitches immediately, you don't bleed like that from minor cuts. But anything for $$$, I guess.

[ohmygoshyouguys]

I don't see how the title is clickbait. Unless the title has been changed? She did need stitches and she was starting to slip in to shock. Where's the clickbait? Clickbait in my opinion would have been that title with a paper cut injury!

Has anyone watched other youtubers record in emergencies like this? I thought what Bonnie recorded was minuscule in comparison. She left the camera on the kitchen counter, we couldn't even see what was going on. Ruby would've had that camera in the kids face, and her own, showing her reaction constantly. I didn't think this was bad at all. I'm glad Olivia is okay!

[nc_mom]

They have used click bait in the worst possible way this morning. Olivia had an accident with a knife and nearly sliced open her finger and hand. The vlog heading in capital letters says she almost went into SHOCK! Then we see Olivia with blood pouring out of her hand laying on the floor while Bonnie phones Joel to come home. With profuse bleeding like that who would take the time to start filming? Wouldn't most decent mothers immediately take the child to the emergency room? These parents are either too dumb to know better or have fallen victim to the youTube phenomenon which has them doing everything possible to get viewers and subscribers....even at the cost of exploiting their own children. Disgusting behavior not to mention that they suck at parenting since this family are constantly having accidents. Little Lincoln was climbing in and out of an automatic recliner chair. Just imagine what would happen to his little legs had the chair started moving. Olivia and the others using knives. Teaching toddler Lincoln how to turn open the bathroom door knob, allowing the children to climb onto tables and counter tops. B&J might love their children but they don't have basic safety procedures or common sense in place at all.

I think Bonnie did the right thing in waiting for Joel. Olivia was clearly starting to panic, and had that same tone to her voice she had with the ear piercing. Bonnie probably only had the car, and wouldnt have been able to safely seat Olivia, Cody, Linc and give Olivia proper attention to calm her down. I've had to wait for my husband to arrive when my youngest had a bleeding hemangioma. Driving while your child is crying and bleeding just doesn't seem like the best idea if you can wait. I agree the title was in poor taste, but think Bonnie handled it really well. She and Joel were calm and focused on preparing and settling Olivia down before they left.

About the safety. We notice safety issues all the time with Bonnie, but for a family with 4 kids I don't actually think they have any more accidents than most families. Olivia cut herself with a butter knife, and unless you don't believe in letting kids help in the kitchen, that really could have happened to anyone. And while I wouldn't let my kids play with a recliner, the one B&J has is he old fashioned kind with tha crank handle. It's not the automatic kind, and those are hard enough to push down if you actually are sitting in them, it would be very unlikely sir Linc to push it down and crush himself, especially with Bonnie watching. Pinch... maybe.

I read here before watching, and I just didn't think it was as bad at all as suggested. Title aside of course.

Do you really think if a child is profusely bleeding you need to wait for your husband to get home? The smart thing to do in an emergency like that is to head immediately to the emergency room and tell your husband to meet you there. They just don't seem to have any common sense and seem more interested in filming everything for their vlog. I couldn't disagree more!!

[lmmomSD]

I think the difference is that it wasn't hemorrhagic shock. She was in shock because she was freaking out, not because she was bleeding out. They're two totally different things and one is much more serious. Getting panicky isn't the same as shock, in medical terms. Unless it was an arterial spurter, or a deep enough cut that she needed a tourniquet, she wasn't really in shock. Not the medical definition anyway. And if Bonnie was "an EMT", she would have known that...

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