E+J: 4 Bites of Tender Steak. PART 30

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I feel terrible for Ellie. I really do, you could see her emotions on her face when the Dr was telling her what happened. BUT that being said, Karma sucks.
When you watch Ellie's reaction dont forget this is the very same lady who called the IVF winners ON Mother's day to announce that she got pregnant their first TTC cycle.
You get what you give, I wouldnt wish a miscarriage on anyone BUT I firmly believe she has some nasty karma coming towards her. What they did to those couple who have been trying YEARS was beyond horrid.

[Playsinrain]

I know this has zero to do with anything going on right now, but i just have to mention it.. They are constantly talking about how bad the boys feet stink. Maybe if they put socks on with those tennis shoes it would solve a little bit of that problem!

[aurora85]

Ok, I did not watch yesterday and I don't think I want to since it's so sad but can someone clarify for me...Was Ellie's lossdue to a blighted ovum? I believe that's what it's called when your body thinks it's pregnant but the fetus doesn't develop and there's no heartbeat.

Either way, when someone gets excited about having a baby and it's then taken away, it is very sad and disappointing. She obviously really wanted it, so I don't think it's unfair for her to grieve. I honestly would rather an early loss than to have to go through my pregnancy bonding with my belly only to loose my sweet baby before birth. My heart justbreaks for the families who go through that and I think that would just DESTROY Ellie (as it would anyone)

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[boredmamaneedsdrama]

It's surprising how relatable they are right now. No one-take, Ellie is actually a part of the vlog and is sharing her feelings instead of hiding away. Todays vlog was the first enjoyable one for me in a long, long time. In fact, it's the first time I even watched the entire vlog in a long time.

I do think Jared is very strange considering the nature of what's going on. We've seen him cry on camera a hundred times before, yet nothing when it comes to both miscarriages. He had no emotion during the last announcement and spent the day away from Ellie. Then this time it was the same, Ellie cried about it while Jared didn't even get close to tearing up. And again spent the day away. The vlog seemed to be Ellie with the boys and Jared running errands around town. I try not to judge how people grieve but I do wonder why he lacks emotion when it comes to the miscarriages.

[ja14]

I know this has zero to do with anything going on right now, but i just have to mention it.. They are constantly talking about how bad the boys feet stink. Maybe if they put socks on with those tennis shoes it would solve a little bit of that problem!

Everytime I see someone wearing tennis shoes without socks, I side-eye them a bit. Lol I've always thought that was gross.

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[HelloSweetie]

One thing that was weird about yesterday's vlog was Jared's reaction, he seemed to be narrating this situation from like a third person omniscient pov and not really getting that the woman he was filming crying at the doctor's office is his wife and that his own kids were there getting confused about the whole thing. It's like he was so into vlogging that he was detached from everything.



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Yep. You Tube is ruining them and they need to take a step back.

I rewatched that vlog and they repeated over and over again how nice it was to have that secret to themselves for a month. I think this more than anything should be a sign to them that maybe they should take a break from YT for awhile. If they can't afford to, then it's time to start saving so they aren't in that position anymore.

[HelloSweetie]

It's surprising how relatable they are right now. No one-take, Ellie is actually a part of the vlog and is sharing her feelings instead of hiding away. Todays vlog was the first enjoyable one for me in a long, long time. In fact, it's the first time I even watched the entire vlog in a long time.

I do think Jared is very strange considering the nature of what's going on. We've seen him cry on camera a hundred times before, yet nothing when it comes to both miscarriages. He had no emotion during the last announcement and spent the day away from Ellie. Then this time it was the same, Ellie cried about it while Jared didn't even get close to tearing up. And again spent the day away. The vlog seemed to be Ellie with the boys and Jared running errands around town. I try not to judge how people grieve but I do wonder why he lacks emotion when it comes to the miscarriages.

I honestly think he is tired of Ellie not being happy. Sure she has a valid reason this time, but I think mentally he's exhausted. From what we saw when hey first started out he's an emotional and empathetic person and I can relate very much to this. Spending too much time with someone negative is draining and painful to me. I think he's got his hopes up time and time again that things are going to be better and NOW she'll be happy, only to have that ripped away again. Jackson, Calvin, the house, a yard, Penny, trees, etc.... the list of "I'll be happy when's" just never ends. I'm sure that's exhausting for Jared.

Not to mention the amount of energy he probably spends worrying about how every move they make is going to affect their channel that is losing steam. It sure life is overwhelming for him and it just Ellie right now. He deserves sympathy too... not just Ellie. He not only lost a baby too, but he happy and peaceful home he's been trying to create for MONTHS.

[Tiger27]

I know this has zero to do with anything going on right now, but i just have to mention it.. They are constantly talking about how bad the boys feet stink. Maybe if they put socks on with those tennis shoes it would solve a little bit of that problem!

Everytime I see someone wearing tennis shoes without socks, I side-eye them a bit. Lol I've always thought that was gross.

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THIS!! I had the exact same thoughts about the stinky feet. Drives me nuts every time I see Ellie put on their shoes without socks. I don't know about other people but socks with tennis shoes was always just kind of common sense and a given where I come from.

[Bananasplit]

I hope her doctor discussed a d&c with her. Her ultrasound only had a sac, not even a fetal pole to be seen. Her bAby stopped growing at around 5w and she's suppose to be almost 8w. Her body isn't realizing the baby has passed. Many doctors would recommend a d&c for this purpose. Maybe she has chosen to miscarry naturally but that makes the grieving process even harder, I know this from personal experience. I just hope her doctor is explaining everything to her and giving her all her options.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I hope her doctor discussed a d&c with her. Her ultrasound only had a sac, not even a fetal pole to be seen. Her bAby stopped growing at around 5w and she's suppose to be almost 8w. Her body isn't realizing the baby has passed. Many doctors would recommend a d&c for this purpose. Maybe she has chosen to miscarry naturally but that makes the grieving process even harder, I know this from personal experience. I just hope her doctor is explaining everything to her and giving her all her options.

I was wondering this too. I would hope they gav her the option and thats where her comment sometime in the next week and a half came from. Like they told her she could wait and see if it happens on its own but after x amount of days they'll do a D&C.
Naturally was WAY better for me with each of my miscarriages. I was offered to have a D&C done but each time opted out to miscarry on my own. It felt right. So I can understand why Ellie might not opt for the D&C right away.

[menehune]

I honestly think he is tired of Ellie not being happy. Sure she has a valid reason this time, but I think mentally he's exhausted. From what we saw when hey first started out he's an emotional and empathetic person and I can relate very much to this. Spending too much time with someone negative is draining and painful to me. I think he's got his hopes up time and time again that things are going to be better and NOW she'll be happy, only to have that ripped away again. Jackson, Calvin, the house, a yard, Penny, trees, etc.... the list of "I'll be happy when's" just never ends. I'm sure that's exhausting for Jared.

Not to mention the amount of energy he probably spends worrying about how every move they make is going to affect their channel that is losing steam. It sure life is overwhelming for him and it just Ellie right now. He deserves sympathy too... not just Ellie. He not only lost a baby too, but he happy and peaceful home he's been trying to create for MONTHS.

I agree. I can see he's upset and just faking happy. We've seen how obsessive Ellie can be about things and how unable she is to focus on more than one thing. They camped out at that house the whole time it was being build and couldn't possibly just continue on enjoying life as it was in the moment. She couldn't enjoy her newborn because she was so obsessed with breastfeeding. We just know that Ellie talked non-stop about the baby for that entire month, and that Jared was probably just happy to see her finally herself again. I don't think he'll ever divorce Ellie, but I guarantee he feels trapped, and just wants her to be who he thought she was again. For a month he had that, and probably had hope that they would be ok. Not only that, but he had hope that the channel would be ok.

I think Jared stays out of Ellie's way when she's on a tear. I believe thats his coping mechanism because I can see a lot of myself in him with that. I once dated a negative person, and by the end of it I was frustrated and just done waiting for him to finally be happy. It was easier to just stay out of his way.

Based on today's vlog, I have no doubts the first miscarriage was a fake. I hope they are ashamed of themselves. I also think there is a part of Ellie that is enjoying the attention she's getting. I really think she needs therapy. Plus I hate that she was talking about bleeding and cramping with Jackson right there. He is repeating what she is saying and I'm not sure he didn't know she wasn't talking to him. He is witness to too much information for a 3 year old and they need to do better about protecting him. He can't shoulder her pain and shouldn't have to.

And that painting and frame are hideous. It would have been trendy back in the 80s. Grandma's painting ends up in the bathroom, but that gets the family room?

[HelloSweetie]

The Progesterone Ellie is taking is what is keeping her from miscarrying naturally. She doesn't need a D&C. Like she said in the vlog, she will probably start the process within the next week and a half now that she isn't taking it anymore.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I agree with the above comments about Ellie talking about the miscarriage and what would hapeen in front of Jackson. She really is dense. Jackson is smart, definitley smart enough to worry if his mother is bleeding. He doesnt need to know! He shouldnt have known about any of what has gone on the last month but he definitely doesnt need to know about this.

[Bethypooh51]

Well I will give Ellie and Jared props for today's vlog. They are handling this miscarriage a lot better as far as being transparent and real. But it is still so sad to me how much they have changed since they first started vlogging. The arrogance is what really bothers me.


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[IceCreamCone]

She shouldn't be talking about the miscarriage in front of Jackson. She can't control herself. You just know she talked non-stop about the baby in front of Jackson and that's how he knew. Plus they were also vlogging in front of the kids and talking about it. We may not have seen that footage yet, but the kids were there. Like a true Narcissist, she fails to see her children as individuals. They are there for the support and affection they can provide her.

I agree the painting is hideous.

About the D&C, Ellie doesn't need one. That is surgery, and should be avoided if at all possible. There are risks of scarring, and a reaction to the anaesthetics used. Natural is always better. Plus she'd likely have to wait longer before trying again and I'm fairly certain Ellie wouldn't follow that advice.

[Romeoxsavexme]

I feel bad for Ellie. I am 9 weeks pregnant and am so worried something is going to happen. I was judging her pretty hard when she told Jackson and Calvin this early but when I took a second to think about it I told both of my girls as well. It's just something that happened naturally out of excitement. I told my 4 year old that we will have to pray every day to make sure the baby is healthy. I do feel bad for the boys that they went in expecting to see the baby but it resulted in Ellie crying. That must have been very confusing.


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[Romeoxsavexme]

All the drama!! I'm sure they are upset to have another miscarriage but they are creating a Hollywood type drama with over the top theatrics! She was only pregnant for a month. Who announces that to the world and especially your other small children? They go on and on to Jackson about the baby in mommy's tummy and explaining everything. It's fine to do all that once you enter your second trimester and everything is going well. To carry on like that after being pregnant for just a few weeks is ridiculous. To top it off they are playing sad music along with the narration. I know how devastating miscarriage can be but what about millions of women who can never have children at all? They already have two beautiful boys and they seem ungrateful and greedy to me. I'm wondering if Elle feels she needs to compete with Bonnie? I hope this teaches them a lesson to keep their mouth shut until the pregnancy is well established in the future. To make announcements to everyone early on (for vlog ratings and views!) is just asking for more drama and disappointment..not to mention it makes them look ridiculous!

I'm so tired of this "only pregnant for a month" BS. Its been said this MS is Karma for faking the last one, so just remember that if y'all have a MS after *only* a month it's KARMA and you apparently aren't allowed to be sad about it.

Also, Ellie has said multiple times that they are so thankful for the two kids they have and they know other people struggle to have any at all.

I really don't like E & J, and I do snark on them and other family Vloggers every now and then, but I swear some people on these forums are so petty and have to bitch about EVERY LITTLE THING and blow things way out of proportion.

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Seriously. I'm just over nine weeks (I've known for about 5 weeks) and if I miscarried today, I'd be devastated. We talk to the fetus, we're thinking about a nursery, we've told family, etc, etc. One month of knowing about a pregnancy is a long time!

So much this!!! I found out at 3 weeks I'm pregnant and now I'm 9w4d. It feel like I've been pregnant for awhile. We have already thought of names and our hearts are so connected. If I miscarried now I would be devastated. I miscarried around 10 weeks and that killed me.


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[IceCreamCone]

I feel bad for Ellie. I am 9 weeks pregnant and am so worried something is going to happen. I was judging her pretty hard when she told Jackson and Calvin this early but when I took a second to think about it I told both of my girls as well. It's just something that happened naturally out of excitement. I told my 4 year old that we will have to pray every day to make sure the baby is healthy. I do feel bad for the boys that they went in expecting to see the baby but it resulted in Ellie crying. That must have been very confusing.


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Not just confusing... frightening! Kids don't like to see their parents out of control. Ellie has admitted to being an anxious person, and she appears to have started using Jackson as a sounding board for sympathy to ease these anxieties. He will already have a natural tendency towards them, and she's giving him information that is only going to make this worse.

I think they are going to have a lot of issues with anxiety if this pattern continues. "Be happy" isn't going to do much to avoid or fix this.

[Romeoxsavexme]

I feel bad for Ellie. I am 9 weeks pregnant and am so worried something is going to happen. I was judging her pretty hard when she told Jackson and Calvin this early but when I took a second to think about it I told both of my girls as well. It's just something that happened naturally out of excitement. I told my 4 year old that we will have to pray every day to make sure the baby is healthy. I do feel bad for the boys that they went in expecting to see the baby but it resulted in Ellie crying. That must have been very confusing.


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Not just confusing... frightening! Kids don't like to see their parents out of control. Ellie has admitted to being an anxious person, and she appears to have started using Jackson as a sounding board for sympathy to ease these anxieties. He will already have a natural tendency towards them, and she's giving him information that is only going to make this worse.

I think they are going to have a lot of issues with anxiety if this pattern continues. "Be happy" isn't going to do much to avoid or fix this.

I agree. I very much wanted to bring my 4 year old to my most recent ultrasound but I couldn't imagine doing that to her if something happened.


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[LittleRus]

Maybe it is just me but they have been so much more relate-able the past 2 vlogs. Maybe bc they are humbled a bit.

To the person who says they should wait until the 2nd tri- I disagree wholeheartedly. If they want to share to get support good and bad, I see nothing wrong with that. I do agree that they should have waited to tell Jackson and should not have been talking about it in front of him . He is 3.5 and picks up on this stuff.

Someone also mentioned how she was vlogging in front of the kids- I thought the same thing. Even when my husband and I are having a serious discussion, my 4 year old picks up on it and will say "mommy what did you say to daddy." They are very perceptive of tone and although it was fine to do when the kids were little and oblivious,E&J really need to stop doing it in front of them