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Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby staceybrax » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:17 pm

Tiger27 wrote:The biggest problem for me with Ellie's tweet is that besides maybe 3 or 4 vlogs, she seriously acted like everything was perfect during that time! We could see through it but she instead of being open and honest or even admitting to struggling and asking for privacy, they played up this whole everything is positively perfect shtick! She can't have it both ways. Not let on that she's having issues but expect all the love and support in return from viewers. Most the people who commented about her wait or the obvious ppd were doing it out of concern (AKA LOVE) because it was seriously concerning!! She's the one that went on the defensive and took any comment like that as hate. She was probably too blinded by the depression and her own ego to see where people were coming from. Now she's twisted the story to make herself the victim. People showed concern and wanted to help. She just saw it as hate and went on to shut viewers out more.


Exactly, and people would express their concern over her weight and in response she would parade around in a swimsuit. As you said, she’s twisting the story to suit her own narrative as the victim.


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby actuallydear » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:00 pm

Ellie’s also not the brightest bulb, so it may be that it’s just taken her until now to realise that something wasn’t right. Everyone in her family caters to her, so if no one stepped in and said “hey, is everything ok? You seem to be struggling. Let’s get you some help”... it could make sense that she wouldn’t realise on her own. How do you think that would’ve went down if her family (the only people whose opinion she respects) did say those things?

I’m just thinking back to the time she was in the car after the doctors appointment and she started crying. Anyone know what vlog that was?
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby HelloSweetie » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:17 pm

actuallydear wrote:Ellie’s also not the brightest bulb, so it may be that it’s just taken her until now to realise that something wasn’t right. Everyone in her family caters to her, so if no one stepped in and said “hey, is everything ok? You seem to be struggling. Let’s get you some help”... it could make sense that she wouldn’t realise on her own. How do you think that would’ve went down if her family (the only people whose opinion she respects) did say those things?

I’m just thinking back to the time she was in the car after the doctors appointment and she started crying. Anyone know what vlog that was?


Remember how well it went over when Jared told her it was time to do more about Cal’a neck?

Yeah, it’s not that no one is saying anything to her. It’s that they CAN’T.


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby amyfalafal » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:36 pm

actuallydear wrote:Ellie’s also not the brightest bulb, so it may be that it’s just taken her until now to realise that something wasn’t right. Everyone in her family caters to her, so if no one stepped in and said “hey, is everything ok? You seem to be struggling. Let’s get you some help”... it could make sense that she wouldn’t realise on her own. How do you think that would’ve went down if her family (the only people whose opinion she respects) did say those things?

I’m just thinking back to the time she was in the car after the doctors appointment and she started crying. Anyone know what vlog that was?

I think when she admitted the PPD recently it was her hopping on the mental illness train like most youtubers were doing at the time. Cullen and Katie for example. Ellie did some googling and thought she can use some excuse to hop on that train and get some attention.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby onbreak » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:47 pm

I feel the same.. this time next year lets see what bandwagon shes circling

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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby FakingIt_MakingIt » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:48 pm

There’s no telling Ellie anything. Unless it comes from mommy dearest, who clearly is the source of a lot of Ellie’s isssues, she won’t hear it.
The ppd was definitely Ellie jumping on the bandwagon.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby lil-pupper » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:24 pm

wow at the way Ellie deflected when Jared said "I love you" and she said "thank you.. I love you" so quietly lol and not even a millisecond later whips back around to the camera and screeches "and we love you guys" with her crazed expression..... like you can't take a moment to thoughtfully and genuinely tell your husband you love him? you have to switch gears immediately? ya such relationship goals hahahhah
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby janem » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Bryan posted a picture on IG about he and Ollie at a globetrotters game. The game in San Diego is tonight (Friday) and the other one was last week (18th) in Anaheim at 2pm. Wasn’t that the day that he said he was just resting after the paramedics? Or the 16th in San Diego. If that’s the case then their vlogs are more than a week behind.


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby lmmomSD » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:33 pm

janem wrote:Bryan posted a picture on IG about he and Ollie at a globetrotters game. The game in San Diego is tonight (Friday) and the other one was last week (18th) in Anaheim at 2pm. Wasn’t that the day that he said he was just resting after the paramedics? Or the 16th in San Diego. If that’s the case then their vlogs are more than a week behind.


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby PenelopeG » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:36 pm

Nope that was last week on Saturday in Ontario, I was there and it’s the same venue. The vlogs must be reaaally behind


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby RRTgirl » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:32 pm

Ellie STILL looks ill and too thin though (prior to pregnancy). Before she got pregnant she looked worse than ever. She can’t take criticism well and I agree with everyone else. She is saying something now because it’s convenient and gives her attention, but she still has a problem! It’s not like it’s gone away!


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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby Mk1 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:18 am

amyfalafal wrote:
actuallydear wrote:Ellie’s also not the brightest bulb, so it may be that it’s just taken her until now to realise that something wasn’t right. Everyone in her family caters to her, so if no one stepped in and said “hey, is everything ok? You seem to be struggling. Let’s get you some help”... it could make sense that she wouldn’t realise on her own. How do you think that would’ve went down if her family (the only people whose opinion she respects) did say those things?

I’m just thinking back to the time she was in the car after the doctors appointment and she started crying. Anyone know what vlog that was?

I think when she admitted the PPD recently it was her hopping on the mental illness train like most youtubers were doing at the time. Cullen and Katie for example. Ellie did some googling and thought she can use some excuse to hop on that train and get some attention.


I agree with you. While she has become quite a different person since it was just Ellie, Jared, and Jackson (before she was ever pregnant with Calvin), I think she’s just always been this way (a narcissist, a bitch, and a bad mother) and it’s gotten worse with the “fame” and money and she has come to not give a shit about the viewers. Always has to jump on whatever bandwagon or diagnosis is popular at the time to get the attention back on her when is drifts to something/someone else. She has issues, that’s for sure...it’s just that PPD isn’t one of them. She’s just trying to cover up her real issues (possible eating disorder) by disguising it as PPD because that’s something everyone is talking about (as well as other mental health issues).
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby lil-pupper » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:51 am

ugh some of the comments on their last video, this gem for example: "I say post when you want who cares about schedules! Takes the fun out of it if u HAVE to do something rather then you just wanting to do it" um???? ok but this is their livelihood? my office job is not necessarily FUN and I rarely want to leave my house at the crack of dawn to go there but I still show up every day.... thank goodness for the rational people of ytmd because if I were to judge youtube and its viewers solely by the comments I see on vlogs like E+J's I would be incredibly concerned
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby sheltiefan » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:19 am

I just checked and their views for yesterday's vlog is at 77,000. Looks like maybe folks are not finding all her pregnancy thoughts and ideas as interesting now. Plus, the day before was like 80,000-2 back to back sub 100,000 views don't look to good.

Wonder if the not uploading vlogs on the weekend starts this weekend,
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby Mk1 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:12 am

sheltiefan wrote:I just checked and their views for yesterday's vlog is at 77,000. Looks like maybe folks are not finding all her pregnancy thoughts and ideas as interesting now. Plus, the day before was like 80,000-2 back to back sub 100,000 views don't look to good.

Wonder if the not uploading vlogs on the weekend starts this weekend,


Yes, I took it as in that starts this weekend. And watch - both of the last 2 vlogs will hit almost exactly 100k today from Jared buying views.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby Pency » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:32 am

It’s ELLIE’S decision to stop uploading daily, but I guarantee you it’s JARED’S responsibility to make sure they keep up their lifestyle. That’s a lot of pressure for him.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby YellowSweater1950 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:59 am

Pency wrote:It’s ELLIE’S decision to stop uploading daily, but I guarantee you it’s JARED’S responsibility to make sure they keep up their lifestyle. That’s a lot of pressure for him.


Yep. Notice she was the one who made the announcement, talked about what she wanted, how it effected her, and that she made the decision. Then Jared starts talking and says, “as your husband, I want to support that...”

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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby sheltiefan » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:57 am

YellowSweater1950 wrote:
Pency wrote:It’s ELLIE’S decision to stop uploading daily, but I guarantee you it’s JARED’S responsibility to make sure they keep up their lifestyle. That’s a lot of pressure for him.


Yep. Notice she was the one who made the announcement, talked about what she wanted, how it effected her, and that she made the decision. Then Jared starts talking and says, “as your husband, I want to support that...”

Lol


Well we know there won't be a statement saying "As your wife, I will cut back on my spending since we won't have as many vlogs to bring in views because you were so supportive of me"! I think they have made a big mistake with this, especially if they stay with the 2 day delay. Someone did comment about that under the vlog. Under that format, they are going to be 4 days behind Monday.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby kathpt » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:02 am

RRTgirl wrote:Ellie STILL looks ill and too thin though (prior to pregnancy). Before she got pregnant she looked worse than ever. She can’t take criticism well and I agree with everyone else. She is saying something now because it’s convenient and gives her attention, but she still has a problem! It’s not like it’s gone away!


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And don't forget she's always said it was in her genes to be that little!
Even here we expressed concern last year at how sickly she looked, it wasn't just in the months after Calvin. It was all the way up to when she got pregnant and it took. Now we express concern over how she'll probably go back to her old ways once the baby comes. That idiot can't even say 'haters' don't express concern and are just hating. WE LITERALLY VOICED CONCERNS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Over her, over her attitude with Jackson, with Jared, over Calvin's neck, Calvin's speech. She's stupid enough to point that out but there is literal proof of the contrary. This forum is full of proof.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby Mk1 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:17 pm

ALWAYS has to turn everything back on herself and make it clear that she believes the Griffiths family walks on water and that what everyone else does, believes, represents, etc. is wrong and nobody can even compare to her family. It’s amazing to me how different Ellie and Bonnie’s personalities and especially DELIVERY are...Bonnie is more well spoken than Ellie is and doesn’t come off as a complete bitch (even when addressing negative comments or people who leave comments disagreeing with something she does) and completely full of herself all the time the way Ellie is. And it’s funny to me how terribly received Ellie’s comment about “my boys love me and I love that they do” on the gender reveal video was because of the way she said it, where Bonnie shows us all the time the way each of her kids love her. But it’s just SHOWN in the vlogs the way the Hoellein kids interact that they love and respect Bonnie because they have a mother that actually loves and takes care of them, enjoys being a mom, and takes the responsibility of raising kids seriously along with Joel. I know there have been some things I don’t necessarily agree with like her allowing the kids to play outside unsupervised, not wear helmets, etc. But I think it’s obvious that Bonnie is a MUCH better mom than Ellie is...it’s like night and day (at least to me). And I know a lot of people on here really dislike Bonnie too and may disagree, and that’s fine, but these are just my observations. I think Bonnie and Julie are great moms and wives and genuine people, and Ruby and Ellie are not so much. Though Ellie is definitely the worst. And I think Beau’s wife Emily seems really sweet and genuine also.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby ZapRowsdower » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:15 pm

Since we pretty much know E&J read here, I thought we might come up with some good, clickbait titles for them to help boost their views in the wake of their new upload schedule. XD lol

I'll go first:

Title: "Never Expected This to Happen"
Thumbnail: E&J sitting on foot of bed; E looking forlorn, handing J her wedding and engagement rings; J looking down at ring, "tears" in eyes.
The Clickbait: Divorce!
The Reality: E's ring gets "stained" from a Lush bath.
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Title: "CAUGHT YOU DOING WHAT?!"
Thumbnail: E Photoshopped into foreground reaming someone out (bc we need to see her face you know); E&J "arguing" with J in E's bathrobe
The Clickbait: Crossdressing?
The Reality: J puts on E's robe to "see why you wear it all the time! Omg it's so soft, which is good because you're PREGNANT and need nothing but softness on that STRETCHED belly of yours!"
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Title: "This Day Came Too Soon."
Thumbnail: J in the rock quarry - sorry - backyard - snuggling Penny, looking sad/serious; Ellie and boys Photoshopped into foreground; E looks like she's explaining something to the boys.
The Clickbait: Something has happened to Penny!
The Reality: They ran out of Penny's dog treats and need to go to PetSmart to get some more.
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Lol What else?!
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby stella89 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:37 pm

I just wish they were SOMEWHAT real during the vlogs. The high pitched voice that Ellie uses when she's "Excited" about something lame, saying "totes" to everything, the over the top compliments and I love yous, the fake positivity that seeps out of their pores. UGH i just can't even anymore. THEN they randomly "Can't handle" their current schedule so they need to change it one day before the weekend. WOW, talk about fake. It's hard to respect their decision when they're constantly putting on a happy "fake" face for their 12 year old viewers. It's freaking weird. It's almost like watching a bad Disney channel show. I love Bonnie's realness and I wish Ellie and Jared took some notes. I hope they surpass them in views someday. Ok that's my rant for the day :)
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby lmmomSD » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:30 pm

I don't want to make fun of an innocent kid. But Jared shouldn't have posted this picture. It's _not_ cute. Between Jared and Calvin, there's so much teeth![img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180225/8a0418b6b5df0287f01bf3065fabf045.jpg[/img]

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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby cleo2016 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:26 pm

This is a horrible thing to say. But their lives were so much better off without Calvin. I'm watching pre Calvin vlogs & E&J are so different now. It's sad.
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Re: Just E: Because everybody else is irrelevant (Part 36)

Postby Scar2016 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:28 pm

stella89 wrote:I just wish they were SOMEWHAT real during the vlogs. The high pitched voice that Ellie uses when she's "Excited" about something lame, saying "totes" to everything, the over the top compliments and I love yous, the fake positivity that seeps out of their pores. UGH i just can't even anymore. THEN they randomly "Can't handle" their current schedule so they need to change it one day before the weekend. WOW, talk about fake. It's hard to respect their decision when they're constantly putting on a happy "fake" face for their 12 year old viewers. It's freaking weird. It's almost like watching a bad Disney channel show. I love Bonnie's realness and I wish Ellie and Jared took some notes. I hope they surpass them in views someday. Ok that's my rant for the day :)

I wrote this in the fiction thread 'J Squared' for some light relief:

Jared rolled (the rolling bit courtesy of the consumption of the entire Dr Pepper throne made up of boxes of cans of Dr Pepper gifted to him by - Dr Pepper) out of bed as he wistfully thought about calling his third son Joel. He rolled his tongue over the name as he continued to roll his belly off the bed. ''JER BERRRRR! Where are you??? I need you to drag my underwear outta my butt!''
''Gosh darn it and fiddle sticks'' he murmured under his breath, ''I sure do like to paint your nails Ellie and only because I'm pretending they're mine, but freeing your butt crack is a whole nother cotton picken terrible dog gawn thingamajig.'' ''JARED!! Where ARE you?!?!''

He sighed as he dragged himself into the living room. ''Now Jer, I've been thinking and I've decided I'm gonna call my baby boy Mason.'' ''Err, I thought we'd agreed to talk about . . '' ''No Jer, you agreed to talk about it. You know I already decided on the name.'' ''But, but I like the name Joe . . . ?!'' ''Jared! Stop being such a whiny bitch and go get me some candy.'' ''Ok ok, point taken Kevin Bacon'' he said burying his frustration, before reminding her, ''But don't forget we need to film a scene of us pretending to discuss names.''
''Ugh. I hate those stupid viewers so much. All their nasty comments and moan moan moan. Why do they hate me so much, I just don't get it?'' Ellie retorted. He forced himself to say, with as much faux affection as he could muster ''Aww, but I love you Ellie.'' ''Yeah, whatever!'' she quipped back.

He quietly got up off the sofa and walked heavily, shoulders hunched forward, towards the kitchen pantry to get Ellie's personal stash of all thing's sugar. He proceeded to walked through the pantry door downtrodden and came out of it a mere few seconds later, vlogging camera in hand, with a forced and plastered smile on his face: ''Well good morning good morning and welcome to the vlog! I hope everyone's having a great day just like we are. And guess what guys? Today's the day Ellie and I get to discuss names for our third little baby boy. Isn't that fun? Hope you guys enjoy!'' followed by big smile to camera. ''Isn't that right Ellie?'' He calls over to her, lounging on the sofa behind the camera. She flips him the bird out of camera shot and rolls her eyes in a sarcastic and bitchy fashion. Jared looks back at the camera and does a nervous, over exaggerated laugh saying ''Aww she's so cute, she just blew me a kiss'' while thinking to himself ''Please be nice Ellie, just for these few minutes on camera. I have a hard enough time already trying to piece together a full vlog.'' And he rejoined her on the sofa to chat 'lovingly' about baby names whilst imaging what his and Joely's love child would look like.
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