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GGF1987 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:32 pm
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I used to really like Joan and I still feel terrible for her loss and for what she went through.

But Joan has shown on many occasions she isn't mentally right and that she has zero empathy for anyone else and she's not above using her her sob story over and over and over to take money from people under the pretense of using it for one thing and then not doing. She's always making comments about how her pain is worse than others. She has awarded herself the title of judge of the pain Olympics and she always awards herself the gold, silver, and bronze, while judging other people's pain and telling them they don't have the right to feel the way they feel about whatever is in their life because she's had it worse. She's taken money for a book, she never wrote. She's now raising more money for IVF after saying just a few months ago that the money she raised was enough to cover it and now suddenly it isn't. She claims to donate money but never says how much or does anything to prove that money she took from other people is actually being donated anywhere but to her bank account. She multiple times used her Instagram to gripe about her husband and to gripe about how he is as a father. She threw him under the bus and posted all about a huge fight they had all over social media a few weeks ago. She is neither healthy nor is she a good person. She uses and abuses everyone in her life.

My biggest issue though is that I am worried for Vera. She doesn't see Vera for Vera. She doesn't treat Vera as her own person, she treats Vera as nothing but Maeve's little sister. She can't celebrate any milestone in Vera's life without bringing up Maeve. She can't even take her to the flipping beach without bringing a bag along that say's "Maeve's Mom" and putting it in the pictures with her. She couldn't even give Vera a first birthday party with a cute little theme that was about her, it had to be rainbow theme because once again her loss and her pain is more important than Vera and her milestones. Vera has no idea what is going on now but she will eventually and never being able to be her own person and always having to do this that or the other for a sister she's never met and who never lived at all, is going to do nothing but screw her up. Is she going to have to take back to school pictures every year with Maeve's board? Where does it end and how is it fair to put that on a child?

It's clear that Joan thought Vera would fill this hole and fix her problems and that's not what happened and so now she's going to try to bring another child into this situation. Joan went through something horrible and she's entitled to her grief. But there is healthy way to handle that grief and she's never gotten the mental help she needs to get to that point. She is still back there 4 years ago when Maeve first died and that's not healthy for her or John or most importantly for Vera. It makes me just as mad at John that he's turned a blind eye to it and is letting his daughter be treated the way Joan treats her and lets his daughter see the way Joan treats him and that he is allowing her to try to bring another child into this mess. Vera doesn't need a sibling. She needs her mother to get healthy and she needs a father who will stand up for her and push for that to happen.
THIS!!!
You brought up a really good point about her relationship with John. If he's such a terrible father who doesn't do anything right, WHY is she trying so hard to have another child with him?
You expressed what most of us feel so perfectly.

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She's still searching for a quick fix for issues. I can't help but wonder with how bad she represents their relationship online, how much worse is it behind closed doors? I have a feeling it's worse than any of us could imagine.
John and Joan both seem
To have mental illness.... John has to be bipolar, Christ they broke up when she was pregnant with Maeve and he wouldn’t even go to all the appointments!!!! Lest we forget those minor details... or the fact that John is obsessed with cartoons and is stuck in his own mess as an adult child.
Then Joan and we all know her issues are awful. I just Can’t believe they are going to try for another baby.
They haven’t even focused on Vera!!!!! It’s always Maeve Maeve Maeve..
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If this IVF is successful I wonder how she will be as a mom, I fear Vera will be pushed aside once again as this one truly will be the miracle last chance baby therefore will have most of the attention just like Maeve is.
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I actually cannot!!!!!! Vera is the rainbow baby. This next bs t IS NOT. You can’t just up and decide it’s a rainbow baby what the actual hell!!!! I’m actually cannot!
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If you, Joan, hadn't swaddled her and never put her down then maybe she would have had muscle tone and not needed any physical therapy.
Ohhh but Joan calls her doc for every little thing and that doctor is law in Joan’s mind... but now the doctor didn’t do their job and if it wasn’t for Joan, Vera would be disabled? I cant.
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I’m having a hard time believing that doctors diagnosed Vera with muscle tone issues at birth, but then Joan had to fight for therapy. If babies have hypotonia at birth, you can start physical therapy.

And for someone who shares EVERYTHING on social media, it’s a weird move to say “we’re not sharing her diagnosis for her privacy”. I think Joan is just looking for drama.


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I’m having a hard time believing that doctors diagnosed Vera with muscle tone issues at birth, but then Joan had to fight for therapy. If babies have hypotonia at birth, you can start physical therapy.

And for someone who shares EVERYTHING on social media, it’s a weird move to say “we’re not sharing her diagnosis for her privacy”. I think Joan is just looking for drama.


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I really don't think there has been a diagnosis, I think realisation kicked in that Vera was very behind in her movement because of Joan.
She's saying about Vera's privacy, it's an excuse so that if she says what it could be as fact she'd get a lot of questions she can't answer.
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1000Words wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:02 am
I actually cannot!!!!!! Vera is the rainbow baby. This next bs t IS NOT. You can’t just up and decide it’s a rainbow baby what the actual hell!!!! I’m actually cannot!
Yes, And lets not forget that SHE HERSELF was word policing not long ago!!! (I'm referring to her passive aggressive post on Instagram about the definition of rainbow baby, and hinting that people who have ''only'' been infertile without loss, can't call their babies that)
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Joan making sure Vera isn't getting all the attention as usual.
She put the heart in, not me.
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FlowersTar 68 wrote:Joan making sure Vera isn't getting all the attention as usual.
She put the heart in, not me.
And Vera has on her fox bib. Image


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Maeve again
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SassySassenach wrote:
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FlowersTar 68 wrote:Joan making sure Vera isn't getting all the attention as usual.
She put the heart in, not me.
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There was a fox backpack too.
What if Vera doesn't like foxes?
Maybe her favourite animal turns out to be a rabbit or horses?
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I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
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aly wrote:I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
Pictures of Maeve and foxes everywhere but I don’t see one of Vera!


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marshmallowfluf wrote:
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aly wrote:I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
Pictures of Maeve and foxes everywhere but I don’t see one of Vera!


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And John is missing????? What did she mean by that in her story
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marshmallowfluf wrote:
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aly wrote:I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
Pictures of Maeve and foxes everywhere but I don’t see one of Vera!


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And John is missing????? What did she mean by that in her story
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I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
It's like a shrine!
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1000Words wrote:
marshmallowfluf wrote:
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aly wrote:I hope this attaches - Maeve (again)

Heart by Joan
Pictures of Maeve and foxes everywhere but I don’t see one of Vera!


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And John is missing????? What did she mean by that in her story
She never posted anything else about it, so who knows ImageImage


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She’s so extra having both grandmas coming over to guard the house for the package delivery. Surely one person there would have been just fine.. but Joan always has to be dramatic . All her family members are enablers I swear.


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She’s so extra having both grandmas coming over to guard the house for the package delivery. Surely one person there would have been just fine.. but Joan always has to be dramatic Image. All her family members are enablers I swear.
Yes, I can understand being excited to get the medications and wanting to be at home when they're delivered, but she could have had the grandmas come over in shifts or offered to have one of them take Vera to her classes so she could obsessively wait at home. Do the medications need to be refrigerated?
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SassySassenach wrote:
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1000Words wrote:
marshmallowfluf wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:55 pm


Pictures of Maeve and foxes everywhere but I don’t see one of Vera!


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And John is missing????? What did she mean by that in her story


She never posted anything else about it, so who knows ImageImage


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From what I gather John went for a bike ride and didn’t tell Joan.... and she was pissed. John messaged someone on insta about it saying Joan needs notice before he’s allowed to do anything
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fossilfinger wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:23 am
SKM12 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:41 am
She’s so extra having both grandmas coming over to guard the house for the package delivery. Surely one person there would have been just fine.. but Joan always has to be dramatic Image. All her family members are enablers I swear.
Yes, I can understand being excited to get the medications and wanting to be at home when they're delivered, but she could have had the grandmas come over in shifts or offered to have one of them take Vera to her classes so she could obsessively wait at home. Do the medications need to be refrigerated?
Strange.... if I were waiting for a package in the mail I’d you know cancel my classes....

Also Vera is going to be so used to being go go go what if their new baby doesn’t want to go go go and Is high needs....
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Nice one Joan, cutting John off talking about Vera so you can talk about you.
Oh, don't you think it's time you changes your intro? It's you two and a fox..... Where's Vera?
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FlowersTar 68 wrote:
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Nice one Joan, cutting John off talking about Vera so you can talk about you.
Oh, don't you think it's time you changes your intro? It's you two and a fox..... Where's Vera?
No wonder John runs away on bike rides......
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Am I the only one who hates how they dress Vera?
It looks like Joan only buys clothes from goodwill with prints then puts them all on her at once.


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Tmh23 wrote:Am I the only one who hates how they dress Vera?
It looks like Joan only buys clothes from goodwill with prints then puts them all on her at once.


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Yesss drives me insane. How does she think any of that matches?!? And she’s always in like 3 layers. It’s obnoxious. Poor kid.
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