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Bonnie Hoellein: Flying In A Rage Against Those Who Pay My Wage | Part 17

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Postby amyfalafal » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:40 pm

Everyone said everything already. I want to add that I have diastasis recti about 4cm wide and currently pregnant again, and with each pregnancy the pains are worse on my overall muscles around my torso, back, pelvic... The hospital where I work offers bulk billed (google what that means if you dont understand) physio for pregnant women and postpartum physio there and you can absolutely fix diastasis recti without surgery. You are offered so much support and information, second, third and forth opinions, locations, schedules... It requires A LOT OF WORK, time and patience. You need a physical therapist or personal trainer who knows how to properly fix it. It's not a 3-6 month fix, it requires so much consistant time. Surgery is obviously a way to fix it but you dont need to get it. I havent put in much work at all to help myself with my own DR but am planning to after this pregnancy as I am thinking it's my last.

Now that that's off my chest... If I was as wealthy as Bonnie I would absolutely get lipo and surgery. I'd get a (minor!!!) boob job/lift and vag-fixing too if I had the money and knew I was done with having babies. :) Id 100% do it if I had the money.

Also, what a shit doctor she went to. Everything sounds like he is $elling it to her big time and she's just eating it up. He didn't offer any support to help lose weight prior to surgery? Any support or information in using physical therapy to help diastasis recti? Any support or info for a nutritionist or dietician? Something doesn't sound right. Sounds like a bunch of excuses from her, and sounds like she should have seen more than one doctor for advice. If she wanted lipo, I dont blame her, she can afford it.

Ive never had lipo nor do I know anyone who has had it. But Im assuming there are dietary restrictions after surgery. Shouldn't you have a support system like your mother who brings you cobler, to let them know you had surgery and need to be careful with what you eat?

she should have 'taken us on the ride' like she did with her tonsillectomy. It would have brought in more view. I would have been interested in watching that!
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Manitowoc123 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:50 pm

ONe more thing - I just realized that she has bruises all up and down her arms. So she had full body lipo. Not just on her sides “to be proportionate”
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby kathpt » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 pm

wow that surgeon sounds like he's an arsehole.

edit: peach clobbler? ok
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby theyellow_daisy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:18 pm

Someone else made a good point that in the video you could see no actual tears. Just a lot of whimpering.

Now that Dollie has had lipo, I want to make a quick comparison to Trisha Paytas. A few(?) years back, Trisha had lipo I believe, or a tummy tuck; some kind of plastic surgery, and didn't keep up with the weight loss. Trisha looks exactly how she looked pre-surgery. I hope Bon Bon realizes that she still needs to keep up with her exercise routine and diet, or all this will be for nothing.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Bethypooh51 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:27 pm

I kinda blame every Griffith girl for making Bonnie feel so bad about herself. When you are the only one in the family with a weight problem and your sisters are all thin it is brutal. Who knows what her issues are but weight issues are deep and I blame her sisters for fat shaming her. I don’t think Lopo is going to solve any of her issues and she is still going to have to work hard to make her body look better. She might have been better off get a belly band and losing the weight rather then lipo and then getting a tummy tuck. I hope this works for her. I do feel a bit sorry for her though that she couldn’t even tell her Mom about it. I would have killed my Mom if she had brought a peach cobbler over. That is plain sabotage. Almost like Bonnie needs to fulfill this sick role in her family and mama Griffiths is now threatened by her changing.


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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby angelfire89 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:56 pm

Her DR must not have been too bad if she didn’t even know it was there. JesssFam has it too but she claims she’s in constant pain (she could also be full of shit.) I just can’t believe Bonnie’s was bad enough that she needed to have it fixed with surgery but not bad enough for her to know it was there without a doctor pointing it out. As many said, apparently it can be fixed/improved with physical therapy if it’s not too bad.

I would like to see the before and after and I’d like to actual hear about the experience/recovery etc from an honest perspective.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby onbreak » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:02 pm

Her mama did her dirty bringing that cobbler (and heavy cream?)

I think the arms were left in on purpose. It was a weird cut and then those two walk in. Or joel shook the hell out of her to get her hair so fluffy.

If she reads here.. Or if Katie is reading-tell bon bon
This is 2018. The world is full of people with great self esteem who dgaf. Out in the real world.. Or if you went to college -you would have met many women of all shapes 'sizes and from different walks of life. Noone should ever be that emotional talking about weight or health to "friends"
If you are waking up at the unhealthy dynamic in your blood family, bravo
You, joel, and God.. Great. Im glad we have it on record that you two make up your own minds. And still hide stuff from your parents, too


Brittney atwood is getting boobs
My 12 year old son came to me and was like.. Why??? LMAO kids these days have no fear asking anything
GL, bon bon fans with explaining fibrous fat and hernia and liposuction

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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby ewokfan11 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:35 pm

I don't think people are understanding that the "doctor" she's referring to is probably not her local doctor, but the plastic surgeon she went to in LA. She probably went there for a consultation about getting the Mommy Makeover and that doctor was the one who told her about the hernia. I honestly don't think she consulted her personal GP in Utah about any of this. Why would she? I think she knew exactly what she wanted, made an appointment and flew to LA to get everything done.

The LA thing is really, really weird to me. There are plenty of plastic surgeons in Utah. Maybe a plastic surgeon offered her a deal? I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they filmed all of it to release as some sort of series about her procedures? Bonnie is a massive attention whore, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what she's doing.

OT: I'd be so annoyed if my parents dropped by unannounced like that and just walked into my house. How freaking rude!
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby rdt1004 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:44 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:I don't think people are understanding that the "doctor" she's referring to is probably not her local doctor, but the plastic surgeon she went to in LA. She probably went there for a consultation about getting the Mommy Makeover and that doctor was the one who told her about the hernia. I honestly don't think she consulted her personal GP in Utah about any of this. Why would she? I think she knew exactly what she wanted, made an appointment and flew to LA to get everything done.

The LA thing is really, really weird to me. There are plenty of plastic surgeons in Utah. Maybe a plastic surgeon offered her a deal? I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they filmed all of it to release as some sort of series about her procedures? Bonnie is a massive attention whore, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what she's doing.

OT: I'd be so annoyed if my parents dropped by unannounced like that and just walked into my house. How freaking rude!


And then she makes this sob story video to keep us (and probably her family and church community) from judging her ("I didn't want to do it! I tried! Heavenly Father and Joel gave me permission!") when the sponsored plastic surgery videos start coming out. Mommy makeovers may be common in Utah, but I think within the mormon community it's mostly something people don't talk about openly. A woman just disappears one weekend and comes back to church with a new set of knockers and no one says anything. It'll be interesting to see if your theory of a sponsored surgery series is true.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby janem » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:00 pm

rdt1004 wrote:
ewokfan11 wrote:I don't think people are understanding that the "doctor" she's referring to is probably not her local doctor, but the plastic surgeon she went to in LA. She probably went there for a consultation about getting the Mommy Makeover and that doctor was the one who told her about the hernia. I honestly don't think she consulted her personal GP in Utah about any of this. Why would she? I think she knew exactly what she wanted, made an appointment and flew to LA to get everything done.

The LA thing is really, really weird to me. There are plenty of plastic surgeons in Utah. Maybe a plastic surgeon offered her a deal? I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they filmed all of it to release as some sort of series about her procedures? Bonnie is a massive attention whore, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what she's doing.

OT: I'd be so annoyed if my parents dropped by unannounced like that and just walked into my house. How freaking rude!


And then she makes this sob story video to keep us (and probably her family and church community) from judging her ("I didn't want to do it! I tried! Heavenly Father and Joel gave me permission!") when the sponsored plastic surgery videos start coming out. Mommy makeovers may be common in Utah, but I think within the mormon community it's mostly something people don't talk about openly. A woman just disappears one weekend and comes back to church with a new set of knockers and no one says anything. It'll be interesting to see if your theory of a sponsored surgery series is true.


Haha maybe that tv show about the plastic surgeons in Newport Beach/la. That wouldn’t surprise me. I could see her doing that “you tube star gets mommy makeover”. That’s why she didn’t want to tell her parents and audience. Can’t talk about it in depth until show airs.


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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby LilaRose » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:37 pm

Manitowoc123 wrote:ONe more thing - I just realized that she has bruises all up and down her arms. So she had full body lipo. Not just on her sides “to be proportionate”


She actually let's slip around 8:00 that the doctor did her arms too....

Why can't she just be open about the whole thing and tries to cover up things in lies?
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby littlebaby » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:28 pm

I don’t think she tried to hide that she got her arms done but she just kinda of ~whimsically~ mentioned it too after all the medically necessary crocodile tear God talk lmao like “silly me I just got my arms done too while I was at it so FUN!!” Like you literally can’t hide ARM WORK behind a hernia repair. I am very very very strongly assuming that just a few months from now she’ll be crying about how her body hasn’t stayed the same.


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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby staceybrax » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:15 pm

gopedjane wrote:
staceybrax wrote:I don’t really want to watch the video because I can’t listen to her crocodile tears. Is there a significant difference in how her body looks? I hope she realises she will need to change her lifestyle and diet/exercise or she will just gain weight back. Lipo isn’t this magic thing that strips weight off forever.


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She didn’t show any pictures or the results.


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Well that’s disappointing isn’t it. I don’t want to hear her sob story, I want to see the results.


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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Scar2016 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:40 am

queenc13 wrote:Ok, fine. She hasn't been well, she's had a few procedures done. Now everyone in the comment section is like, "SEE! TOLD YOU TO JUST BE NICE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN SOMEONES LIFE!!" I call bullshit. This is NO excuse for the way she behaved last week. Perhaps it's an excuse for a break, a change in content, but it could have all been avoided had she just released something saying, "Hey, our family is going through a difficult time, so we're going to be releasing different content for awhile, and we'll be back with an explination shortly. Prayers appreciated."
INSTEAD she decided to be a raging bitch, lose tons of supporters, block people for expressing a less-than-praising opinion, and make a snarky ass video she should be embarrassed about. She lost my sympathy.

The irony of her last sentence in that lipo video is not lost: ''I hope that you show me respect the way that I hopefully show you guys respect.'' 'Hopefully' definitely and absolutely being the operative there word Bonnie. You expect your viewers to show you respect when last week you were treating them with contempt and displaying anything but respect. Sure Jan.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Scar2016 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:08 am

gopedjane wrote:
queenc13 wrote:
theyellow_daisy wrote:Did I not say a few pages back that there would be a "woe is me" post that would happen? Did I expect it to be this big, of course not, but did we not call it?!

I read an article once about the beauty standards and pressure on woman in Utah, and more specifically in the mormon culture to stay "beautiful" and youthful looking. After watching this video, it absolutely strikes me how true that is. Having surgery to fix your hernia is okay. She's probably not having more kids, fix that to help your body recover and feel better. Great, I have zero problem with that. What I do have a problem with, is having lipo, to have lipo, even after your doctor has told you 'your muscles are toned' and 'i can see you have been working out'. I had even seen comments on vlogs say, I can see the weightloss; so yes, I do think there was some weightless/toning happening.

YOU HAVE A LARGER BODY GIRL! That is what it is. Plus, if your doctor told you that you were never going to lose the weight, why not own it, tone it, and dress in ways that are flattering to your body and make you and only you feel good about yourself. Not "heavenly father" or Joel, but you.

I am not going to shame Bonnie for having it done. It's not my business nor is it my body. Am I disappointed, yeah I think so. Other people here have kind of called her the "black sheep" of the family only because she isn't small like her sisters. And that is totally and completely okay. I think I would have appreciated more honesty about the whole situation rather then a woe is me video, but "You do you Bon Bon" :roll: I think this was so Bonnie could "keep up with the jones" and fit in with her family better. She was tired of looking at pictures and videos next to her sisters, and decided to do something about it.

*After thought* Maybe Bonnie has some body image issues that she needs to work through. Maybe seeing a counselor or talking to someone would help her out.

While i agree with part of this, I have to disagree with other parts. Bonnie is not larger than her sisters naturally. She only got this way after Lincoln. She was extremely thin all throughout school and her first couple kids a few months after having the babies. I don't think this bigger frame is her "natural" body shape, and that's hard to come to terms with.
Do I think she should have gotten lipo instead of being dedicated to eating right? No. But it could be worse, I guess. She definitely needs to start seeing a therapist. She has some clear emotional issues she needs to work on.

I agree, she was smaller after she had Lincoln this isn't baby weight her lifestyle changed.

I too agree, she was slim post Lincoln so her weight gain is definitely related to a change in lifestyle and enjoying 'the good life.' When the money started to properly roll in from YouTube she could afford to eat out more than she has ever been able to in her life before and oh boy, did/does she eat out often. Couple that with having a regular daytime sitter whose been doing most of the (calorie burning) running around after her kids, then throw in the fact she's now the wrong side of thirty - none of it is rocket science, but this is one of the Griffith's we're talking about.

I'm not interested in her tears, you can't have your cake and eat it - no one or hardly anyone can. Well actually, it appears Bonnie IS trying to have her cake and eat it - shoving crap in one end of her body and thanks to more of that YouTube money, paying someone to pull it out the other end. Trisha Paytas anyone?<--Just joking. In all seriousness though, it'll be interesting to see if she doesn't change her eating habits whether she'll go for a second round, or more, further down the road (and if she'll tell her viewers). I don't buy the fact she's put on 10 pounds since working out - she even got that wrong - it started off at the beginning of the video being 10 pounds and later on it was suddenly 15 lol.

Question: When Bonnie was slimmer did she eat normally or was she restricting like her sister Ellie? People gain weight as they age obviously but I see quite a lot of weight gain in a short couple to three years max and we have witnessed a lot of what her diet and eating out entails in roughly the same time period, so there's definitely room for adjustment if she so desperately wants to change.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Kataja » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:01 am

I guess we now know why there was just so many bizarre ''vlogs'' that contained only one scene.

I kind of regret commenting here on her trying to lose weight and then crying about it. Muscle separation a.k.a. Diastasis Recti is no joke guys. Working out might actually make it so much worse. To think that she didn't know that she had it, she probably didn't make sure to do correct exercises for that problem. (Here where I live in northern Europe, hospitals actually raise awareness about Diastasis Recti so that new mothers would know about it and exercise accordingly)

I felt that she was being genuine after a long time but when her parents showed up, it just turned out so weird. Like she kept vlogging and I kind of felt second-hand embarrassment even though they must be used to it already. It was just socially so awkward. Talking to camera and her parents at the same time when they interrupted her on kind of sensitive moment.

About her liposuction. I do not judge her. Good for her. I think the doctor totally sold it to her but that is not her fault. If an authority figure tells her something, she's not the type to look for second opinion (if the first pleases her) or start researching herself. Her not wanting to tell her mom was bit off. I guess, as somebody already stated here, her triangle is square and she still needs to listen to if mommy says no.

Comments here about her being thin for so long that being fat cannot be in her genes. I have a different opinion on that. She never gained weight so this trait would have never showed up before. Now that she has gained the weight, losing it, is problem due to the type of her adipose tissue.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Scar2016 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:14 am

kathpt wrote:wow that surgeon sounds like he's an arsehole.

edit: peach clobbler? ok

Bonnie's peach cobbler is Jason Nash and Trisha Paytas's chicken parma-gate, without the break up lol
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby onbreak » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 am

That was an awkward moment. I would be so uncomfortable around a vlogger.


So.... could the correct exercises have helped her or was she truly destined.. Directed by God that this liposuction needed to be done?




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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby ba1006 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:29 am

I got a message from my dear Heavenly Father last night. He told me to get a face lift. I really don't think I need one, but he talked me into it. He also mentioned something about a nose job. Thank you Heavenly Father.
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Postby SunnySide0 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:48 am

If she wanted the surgery then she should go for it. If I had the money, I would! But it’s odd how she didn’t show off her new body in the video and seemed quite scared to share the surgery details.

I also find it laughable how Bollie is supposedly catered to women of all sizes (Ellie being one end of the spectrum and Bonnie the other - even though she’s not big in my book) and yet she’s having surgery because she’s so unhappy with her figure.




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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby gopedjane » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:57 am

I'm just going to put it out there that I hope she can get over this and learn to just love herself. Hopefully, this will help with her self image which should help with the decisions she makes. I have struggled with my weight, I've lost as much as 120 lbs on my own, so I know how hard it is but we can all do it, we just need to love ourselves first. A lot of that is just being blunt and honest with yourself and others. Hope she gets there.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby ba1006 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:47 am

What bothered me the most is she started off by saying it was necessary surgery to correct medical issues. The fact is she went to a plastic surgeon and had this done to lose weight and probably look more like her sisters. I would have preferred if she was just honest about it. I hope she realizes she has to give up the junk food and continue working out for all this to be successful but I doubt it.
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Postby angelfire89 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:16 am

From a comment I saw (was here or instagram, who knows anymore) I don’t think she’s had the tummy tuck yet, that’s why she isn’t showing off her body. She just got the lipo and maybe has to go back for the tummy tuck after some healing time? I don’t know how it all works and I thought they usually do it all at once but maybe because her lipo took so much longer than expected, they didn’t want to keep her under.

They did that on Botched for Tiffany (New York of reality tv fame.)
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby Scar2016 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:48 am

angelfire89 wrote:From a comment I saw (was here or instagram, who knows anymore) I don’t think she’s had the tummy tuck yet, that’s why she isn’t showing off her body. She just got the lipo and maybe has to go back for the tummy tuck after some healing time? I don’t know how it all works and I thought they usually do it all at once but maybe because her lipo took so much longer than expected, they didn’t want to keep her under.

They did that on Botched for Tiffany (New York of reality tv fame.)

I agree with this synopsis. She said the surgeon told her if she didn't have lipo then the hernia (lipo) surgery would essentially make her side torso and back fat more pronounced.
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Re: Flying in a rage against those who pay my wage | Part 17

Postby lovingthisforum » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 am

What is strange also is that the doctor had to 'find' a hernia. Believe me, you feel a hernia, however small. Then it's also strange she would have a surgery for a small hernia, especially on her age. I had a large hernia when 36, but the neurologist advised against a surgery because of my young age (after 15 yrs you would have to have it again, etc, and it's not that they truly repair (close) the hernia, but they take it out, causing other back problems). So I'm glad frankly.
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