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Bonnie Hoellein: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby polly9033 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:20 am

HelloSweetie wrote:Maybe she’ll be like other LDS YTers and start drinking?


First of all, not all of these YTers are LDS and secondly, I don't think LDS has anything to do with this. Dysfunction is dysfunction and addiction is addiction regardless if a person is LDS or evangelical Christian or agnostic or atheist or Buddhist, etc. Educate me if I'm wrong, but besides Shaytard, what other LDS YTer has started drinking?
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby lmmomSD » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:39 am

polly9033 wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:Maybe she’ll be like other LDS YTers and start drinking?


First of all, not all of these YTers are LDS and secondly, I don't think LDS has anything to do with this. Dysfunction is dysfunction and addiction is addiction regardless if a person is LDS or evangelical Christian or agnostic or atheist or Buddhist, etc. Educate me if I'm wrong, but besides Shaytard, what other LDS YTer has started drinking?
Carl and Jinger. Shay's brothers. But that's only two families. The rest just like to act "drunk", like Ellie and Bonnie in Hawaii.

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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby ba1006 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:41 am

rdt1004 wrote:I wonder if she’ll make through the withdrawals or if she’ll cave and try to find pills somewhere else because she’s special and has a different type of pain than anyone else so she needs to be on pills longer you guys, Heavenly Father said it was ok.


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Don't worry. Her enabler husband will find a way to score some more. Can you imagine what she puts him through though? The dramatic crying alone would drive me insane. She may have to share her meds with him.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Liz_444 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:43 am

Bonnie, it's not your childs responsibility to know that you are in pain, or feeling depressed. I can't believe you said (about Lincoln at the dinner table) that he doesn't even know that I am in pain.

Bon Bon, you are the PARENT. Lincoln is your CHILD. You are supposed to protect your children. Lincoln should not be stressed out over how his mother feels. It's YOUR JOB to make him feel safe and happy in his own home.

I just finished the vlog. Boston's prayer was quite an eye opener as to what these kids have been through this past month. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU for making your kids go through this!!!!

Olivia should NOT be taking on the role as mother!!! YOU should be putting your own kids to bed.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:46 am

lmmomSD wrote:
polly9033 wrote:
HelloSweetie wrote:Maybe she’ll be like other LDS YTers and start drinking?


First of all, not all of these YTers are LDS and secondly, I don't think LDS has anything to do with this. Dysfunction is dysfunction and addiction is addiction regardless if a person is LDS or evangelical Christian or agnostic or atheist or Buddhist, etc. Educate me if I'm wrong, but besides Shaytard, what other LDS YTer has started drinking?
Carl and Jinger. Shay's brothers. But that's only two families. The rest just like to act "drunk", like Ellie and Bonnie in Hawaii.

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Shay and his family is a pretty big example. They are after all the inspiration for the whole family vlogger genre.

There are plenty of YTers that have turned to addictive behaviours post YT, but few that actually preached abstinence from these substances. LDS members just happen to be more open in this regard, so it’s more obvious when that change happens. Bryan and Missy are open about being Christian, but never said they didn’t enjoy alcohol or smoke Marijuana.

If Jared stared drinking at all, it would be more noticeable than Shane drinking to excess.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby FakingIt_MakingIt » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:49 am

Liz_444 wrote:Bonnie, it's not your childs responsibility to know that you are in pain, or feeling depressed. I can't believe you said (about Lincoln at the dinner table) that he doesn't even know that I am in pain.

Bon Bon, you are the PARENT. Lincoln is your CHILD. You are supposed to protect your children. Lincoln should not be stressed out over how his mother feels. It's YOUR JOB to make him feel safe and happy in his own home.

I just finished the vlog. Boston's prayer was quite an eye opener as to what these kids have been through this past month. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU for making your kids go through this!!!!

Olivia should NOT be taking on the role as mother!!! YOU should be putting your own kids to bed.


Its really sad. Bonnie grew up in that same environment so I can understand she doesn't see it as an issue, but Joel doesn't seem to have so why is he ok with this going on?
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby littlebaby » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:12 am

I just wanna know why Lincoln still isn’t potty trained.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:18 am

littlebaby wrote:I just wanna know why Lincoln still isn’t potty trained.


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Because Olivia can’t teach him, Joel is too lazy (or that’s not a dad’s job) and Bonnie is still healing


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Sweetiebee » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:23 am

When bonnie said "she got over it" after all the crying, right before dinner, she had just woken up!!! Another nap.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Acaena » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:30 am

I do not like the way Bonnie speaks to the kids - I know, kids need sometimes clear instructions but in todays vlog there was way too much "do this, do that" for my personal taste.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby GuavaMama » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:35 am

Acaena wrote:I do not like the way Bonnie speaks to the kids - I know, kids need sometimes clear instructions but in todays vlog there was way too much "do this, do that" for my personal taste.


Me either. It’s more the finger pointing for me. When she’s pointing and telling them what to do.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Vlog4money » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:42 am

Liz_444 wrote:Bonnie, it's not your childs responsibility to know that you are in pain, or feeling depressed. I can't believe you said (about Lincoln at the dinner table) that he doesn't even know that I am in pain.

Bon Bon, you are the PARENT. Lincoln is your CHILD. You are supposed to protect your children. Lincoln should not be stressed out over how his mother feels. It's YOUR JOB to make him feel safe and happy in his own home.

I just finished the vlog. Boston's prayer was quite an eye opener as to what these kids have been through this past month. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU for making your kids go through this!!!!

Olivia should NOT be taking on the role as mother!!! YOU should be putting your own kids to bed.


Boston's prayer broke my heart. I agree, shame on Bonnie and Joel. Those kids have been through so much, thankfully they pay someone to hug and love them since their parents are clearly too self-absorbed to care.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby gopedjane » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:48 am

HelloSweetie wrote:We often talk about Jennifer’s way, and how “behind” the Griffith girls are in their way of thinking and doing things. I thought it would be interesting to find what General Conference was saying around the time that Jennifer was starting out. The below article is from when Jennifer was pregnant with Ruby, and explains so many things that we’ve seen with Bonnie and all the Griffiths, right down to the need to isolate the kids and therefor not send them to preschool. Made me almost think maybe Jennifer isn’t as bad and maybe is just grossly misinformed..... almost.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1981/10/the-honored-place-of-woman?lang=eng

Ruby was born 3 months after this conference.


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Wow, this part, there are no words. WTF, how does anyone grow up with this BS actually believe it in this day and age.

I also recognize that not all women in the Church will have an opportunity for marriage and motherhood in mortality. But if you in this situation are worthy and endure faithfully, you can be assured of all blessings from a kind and loving Heavenly Father—and I emphasize all blessings.

Solutions for you who are in a minority are not the same as for the majority of women in the Church who can and should be fulfilling their roles as wives and mothers.

It is a misguided idea that a woman should leave the home, where there is a husband and children, to prepare educationally and financially for an unforeseen eventuality. Too often, I fear, even women in the Church use the world as their standard for success and basis for self-worth.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Catface2 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:02 am

I don’t feel it is right to show your child’s prayer. That is too personal. How SAD that those kids are being conditioned to be her drone slaves. Joel better grow a pair and get control of this train wreck
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby ba1006 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:08 am

Acaena wrote:I do not like the way Bonnie speaks to the kids - I know, kids need sometimes clear instructions but in todays vlog there was way too much "do this, do that" for my personal taste.


This is nothing new. She always barks orders at them - even Joel. She thinks she's a drill sergeant.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby rdt1004 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:21 am

Catface2 wrote:I don’t feel it is right to show your child’s prayer. That is too personal. How SAD that those kids are being conditioned to be her drone slaves. Joel better grow a pair and get control of this train wreck

I felt the same way. I’m not religious at all, but prayers seem like such a personal private thing. She shouldn’t have recorded him while he was saying his prayer.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby lmmomSD » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:22 am

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Liz_444 wrote:Bonnie, it's not your childs responsibility to know that you are in pain, or feeling depressed. I can't believe you said (about Lincoln at the dinner table) that he doesn't even know that I am in pain.

Bon Bon, you are the PARENT. Lincoln is your CHILD. You are supposed to protect your children. Lincoln should not be stressed out over how his mother feels. It's YOUR JOB to make him feel safe and happy in his own home.

I just finished the vlog. Boston's prayer was quite an eye opener as to what these kids have been through this past month. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU for making your kids go through this!!!!

Olivia should NOT be taking on the role as mother!!! YOU should be putting your own kids to bed.


Boston's prayer broke my heart. I agree, shame on Bonnie and Joel. Those kids have been through so much, thankfully they pay someone to hug and love them since their parents are clearly too self-absorbed to care.
I can't bear to watch the train wreck. What did he say?

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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:24 am

rdt1004 wrote:
Catface2 wrote:I don’t feel it is right to show your child’s prayer. That is too personal. How SAD that those kids are being conditioned to be her drone slaves. Joel better grow a pair and get control of this train wreck

I felt the same way. I’m not religious at all, but prayers seem like such a personal private thing. She shouldn’t have recorded him while he was saying his prayer.


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It always seems exploitative to me when I see prayers vlogged, be they adults or children. Its just so disrespectful.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Tiger27 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:35 am

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She’s seriously got some of these minion brainwashed with her super special fat and worst pain there ever was story. It’s ridiculous. Anyone with some common sense and reasoning or who has been through a surgery has got to be sitting at home scratching their head thinking what the hell. She’s like at least 6 weeks out from liposuction for gods sake!!!

And today shes crying on the couch saying Joel’s been out all afternoon. So who was filming her in the beginning of the vlog?? Bree probably. So sketchy to make it look like she’s alone and doing it all when she’s definitely not.

And her spiel about this definitely not being withdrawal symptoms, just pain from cutting down on the meds. Hate to break it to you hun, you’re withdrawaling as you’re clearly physically and emotionally craving more meds...and it’s probably just going to get worse. She should have been off those meds weeks ago. I don’t know where she found a doctor to prescribe her opioids months out after surgery (presuming this will continue considering she said she’s just cutting down, not stopping), but he could have his license revoked for that in many stated. Absolutely negligent.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Vlog4money » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:52 am

lmmomSD wrote:
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Liz_444 wrote:Bonnie, it's not your childs responsibility to know that you are in pain, or feeling depressed. I can't believe you said (about Lincoln at the dinner table) that he doesn't even know that I am in pain.

Bon Bon, you are the PARENT. Lincoln is your CHILD. You are supposed to protect your children. Lincoln should not be stressed out over how his mother feels. It's YOUR JOB to make him feel safe and happy in his own home.

I just finished the vlog. Boston's prayer was quite an eye opener as to what these kids have been through this past month. SHAME ON BOTH OF YOU for making your kids go through this!!!!

Olivia should NOT be taking on the role as mother!!! YOU should be putting your own kids to bed.


Boston's prayer broke my heart. I agree, shame on Bonnie and Joel. Those kids have been through so much, thankfully they pay someone to hug and love them since their parents are clearly too self-absorbed to care.
I can't bear to watch the train wreck. What did he say?

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He was near tears when he asked heavenly father to bless that his Mom could feel better and that his dad's feet could feel better. It was very sad and like others have said it felt wrong to include in the video. It's sad that nothing in their lives are off-limits.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby gopedjane » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:12 pm

Tiger27 wrote:She’s seriously got some of these minion brainwashed with her super special fat and worst pain there ever was story. It’s ridiculous. Anyone with some common sense and reasoning or who has been through a surgery has got to be sitting at home scratching their head thinking what the hell. She’s like at least 6 weeks out from liposuction for gods sake!!!

And today shes crying on the couch saying Joel’s been out all afternoon. So who was filming her in the beginning of the vlog?? Bree probably. So sketchy to make it look like she’s alone and doing it all when she’s definitely not.

And her spiel about this definitely not being withdrawal symptoms, just pain from cutting down on the meds. Hate to break it to you hun, you’re withdrawaling as you’re clearly physically and emotionally craving more meds...and it’s probably just going to get worse. She should have been off those meds weeks ago. I don’t know where she found a doctor to prescribe her opioids months out after surgery (presuming this will continue considering she said she’s just cutting down, not stopping), but he could have his license revoked for that in many stated. Absolutely negligent.


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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Sweetiebee » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:30 pm

Boston prayed the prayer of a little boy who is riddled with fear about his mother's health! What a shame! To unnecessarily put your child through that is outrageous.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Sweetiebee » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:32 pm

Also, it's not enough that Bree takes cares if the kids, olivia has to take the night shift.
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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby Toffie89 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Why is Cody doing homework in his bed without his parents? And does Bonnie really believe that Cody reading to Boston is at all beneficial for Boston?

Also, "not withdrawal". Sure Bonnie, sure

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Re: Bonnie Hoellien: Surgery Bills & High On Pills | Part 18

Postby sheltiefan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:25 pm

gopedjane wrote:
Tiger27 wrote:She’s seriously got some of these minion brainwashed with her super special fat and worst pain there ever was story. It’s ridiculous. Anyone with some common sense and reasoning or who has been through a surgery has got to be sitting at home scratching their head thinking what the hell. She’s like at least 6 weeks out from liposuction for gods sake!!!

And today shes crying on the couch saying Joel’s been out all afternoon. So who was filming her in the beginning of the vlog?? Bree probably. So sketchy to make it look like she’s alone and doing it all when she’s definitely not.

And her spiel about this definitely not being withdrawal symptoms, just pain from cutting down on the meds. Hate to break it to you hun, you’re withdrawaling as you’re clearly physically and emotionally craving more meds...and it’s probably just going to get worse. She should have been off those meds weeks ago. I don’t know where she found a doctor to prescribe her opioids months out after surgery (presuming this will continue considering she said she’s just cutting down, not stopping), but he could have his license revoked for that in many stated. Absolutely negligent.


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