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Post by Bored Mommy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:07 pm

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I understand the criticism of them having Bri watch the kids if they are just too lazy to, but I don’t think it’s fair for people to criticize them for it if they are working on Bollie. Someone has to do it, and it’s obnoxious there are issues that need attention. They have a lot of time and money invested in that business and it would be irresponsible to just stick their heads in the sand and ignore it like Ellie and Jared are. Sure E&J don’t have a Bri (that we know of) but they also don’t seem to actually be working on Bollie all that often either.

Using Bri to watch the kids while they go on excessive date nights or day trips to get Bonnie’s brows waxed however, that I do judge.


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Oops sorry this was meant for the other post you quoted me sorry!
Oh? Surprising I had no idea once at an airport where she ran into Brian she seemed almost awkward and she speaking to him, I thought it was more Ellie trying to keep her private friends to herself!
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Re: Bonnie Hoellein: Bollievard of Broken Dreams | Part 54

Post by HelloSweetie » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:10 pm

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Did she say her house is all paid off. I would imagine they got a 30 year mortgage. I have a hard time believing they would pay it all off.


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I think with the kind of money they were making a year or two ago, they could have easily have paid off their home. I do believe they were making a seven figure salary at one time. Also, this isn't an expensive home.

If I remember right they purchased it for less than $200k 9 years ago.

It always surprises me that people will argue E&J don’t live outside their means, but B&J do when B&J at least kept their average home. If it isn’t paid off by now I’ll be shocked. They have spent a ton on toys, property and plastic surgery, but they haven’t noticeably spent enough for it all to be gone. It has to have gone into savings, the mortgage, or something else we haven’t seen.



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Post by Bored Mommy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
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Did she say her house is all paid off. I would imagine they got a 30 year mortgage. I have a hard time believing they would pay it all off.


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I think with the kind of money they were making a year or two ago, they could have easily have paid off their home. I do believe they were making a seven figure salary at one time. Also, this isn't an expensive home.

If I remember right they purchased it for less than $200k 9 years ago.

It always surprises me that people will argue E&J don’t live outside their means, but B&J do when B&J at least kept their average home. If it isn’t paid off by now I’ll be shocked. They have spent a ton on toys, property and plastic surgery, but they haven’t noticeably spent enough for it all to be gone. It has to have gone into savings, the mortgage, or something else we haven’t seen.



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No disrespect to any Mormons out there but just amongst this Griff group the church is sure making quite a pretty penny off them!
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Post by ewokfan11 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm

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No disrespect to any Mormons out there but just amongst this Griff group the church is sure making quite a pretty penny off them!
The Mormon church is worth something like $40 BILLION, so I don't know that their family is giving more than just the average upper middle class Mormon family. There are plenty of billionaire Mormon who give a lot more through tithing. Even Shay is not anywhere near one of the wealthiest Mormons.
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Post by YTIG60 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:22 pm

I think it said a lot Bonnie and Joel at E&J’s house the night they got back from Florida. They had work to do before going to NY. Bonnie seems to have endless patience with Ellie since I would said cut your trip short to get the Bollie work done.


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Post by alym0326 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:29 am

While this is pure speculation... I believe Roman Atwood’s mother that passed away from falling off a bike and hitting her head while not wearing a helmet... I am disgusted to see Joel still refusing to put helmets on the kids. What is it going to take for them to take their safety seriously?


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Post by HelloSweetie » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:37 am

alym0326 wrote:While this is pure speculation... I believe Roman Atwood’s mother that passed away from falling off a bike and hitting her head while not wearing a helmet... I am disgusted to see Joel still refusing to put helmets on the kids. What is it going to take for them to take their safety seriously?


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Maybe the church to tell them to do it?

But prob not.

Jennifer. They would probably only take it seriously if Grandma Griff told them to.


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Post by Sickandtired » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:49 am

HelloSweetie wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:37 am
alym0326 wrote:While this is pure speculation... I believe Roman Atwood’s mother that passed away from falling off a bike and hitting her head while not wearing a helmet... I am disgusted to see Joel still refusing to put helmets on the kids. What is it going to take for them to take their safety seriously?


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Maybe the church to tell them to do it?

But prob not.

Jennifer. They would probably only take it seriously if Grandma Griff told them to.


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But remember, grandma Griff doesn’t care if her grandkids are safe, only if they are good.
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Post by YTIG60 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:52 am

alym0326 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:29 am
While this is pure speculation... I believe Roman Atwood’s mother that passed away from falling off a bike and hitting her head while not wearing a helmet... I am disgusted to see Joel still refusing to put helmets on the kids. What is it going to take for them to take their safety seriously?


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Utah is one of the states that don't mandate wearing bike helmets. In the time I watched their family vlog, it has been consistently shown safety is not a priority with their children. In fact, when comments were on and viewers recommended helmets, they seem to ignored or resisted the suggestion. For these parents to change by not taking safety seriously, it will take an unfortunate accident.
I remember a brand deal with home alarms and all the kids riding bikes without helmets and I was very surprised this company who was looking to keep a family safe at home, didn't appear to care about children not wearing bike helmets.
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Post by Tinkerbell22 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:51 am

After taking the kids for a bike ride, letting them play in the dirt and get all hot and sweaty you don’t give them a bath or at least a quick shower? You let them go to bed all dirty and sweaty? Seriously, how lazy of a parent can they be? Lincoln is my favorite but he is looking so unkept it’s disgusting. That hair style just makes him look dirty.
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Post by Todays drama » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:01 am

Lincoln is cute, but his hair needs a good trimming if they want it a little longer. They have really cute bike helmets for kids, they have everything from super heroes to motorcycle looking helmets. Let the kids pick one out they would love and feel cool wearing. These two put their kids in danger because they want them to be "boys"! Thats all good, but a little safety never killed anyone, it saves them. I agree, it's disgusting to send them to bed sweaty and dirty. Run a shower for them. Theres two bathrooms in that house, it wouldn't take them that long.
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Post by Catface2 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:13 am

Todays drama wrote:
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Lincoln is cute, but his hair needs a good trimming if they want it a little longer. They have really cute bike helmets for kids, they have everything from super heroes to motorcycle looking helmets. Let the kids pick one out they would love and feel cool wearing. These two put their kids in danger because they want them to be "boys"! Thats all good, but a little safety never killed anyone, it saves them. I agree, it's disgusting to send them to bed sweaty and dirty. Run a shower for them. Theres two bathrooms in that house, it wouldn't take them that long.
Ew.. if they go to bed filthy, can u imaging how gross their sheets are? Hard PASS!
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Post by Sickandtired » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:49 am

Catface2 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:13 am
Todays drama wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:01 am
Lincoln is cute, but his hair needs a good trimming if they want it a little longer. They have really cute bike helmets for kids, they have everything from super heroes to motorcycle looking helmets. Let the kids pick one out they would love and feel cool wearing. These two put their kids in danger because they want them to be "boys"! Thats all good, but a little safety never killed anyone, it saves them. I agree, it's disgusting to send them to bed sweaty and dirty. Run a shower for them. Theres two bathrooms in that house, it wouldn't take them that long.
Ew.. if they go to bed filthy, can u imaging how gross their sheets are? Hard PASS!
Not surprising, Bonnie lacks hygiene and cleanliness. She hardly showers herself.
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Post by YTIG60 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:13 pm

Todays drama wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:01 am
Lincoln is cute, but his hair needs a good trimming if they want it a little longer. They have really cute bike helmets for kids, they have everything from super heroes to motorcycle looking helmets. Let the kids pick one out they would love and feel cool wearing. These two put their kids in danger because they want them to be "boys"! Thats all good, but a little safety never killed anyone, it saves them. I agree, it's disgusting to send them to bed sweaty and dirty. Run a shower for them. Theres two bathrooms in that house, it wouldn't take them that long.
There is no Bri around to help with the kids while Bonnie is gone and Bollie trips no longer looks like they include Jared and Joel going to NYC or LA. I still don't think they will aggressively search for another assistant due to finances and Joel will need to step it up.
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Post by Bored Mommy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:26 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm
Bored Mommy wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:31 pm
No disrespect to any Mormons out there but just amongst this Griff group the church is sure making quite a pretty penny off them!
The Mormon church is worth something like $40 BILLION, so I don't know that their family is giving more than just the average upper middle class Mormon family. There are plenty of billionaire Mormon who give a lot more through tithing. Even Shay is not anywhere near one of the wealthiest Mormons.
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Post by ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:35 pm

YTIG60 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:13 pm
Todays drama wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:01 am
Lincoln is cute, but his hair needs a good trimming if they want it a little longer. They have really cute bike helmets for kids, they have everything from super heroes to motorcycle looking helmets. Let the kids pick one out they would love and feel cool wearing. These two put their kids in danger because they want them to be "boys"! Thats all good, but a little safety never killed anyone, it saves them. I agree, it's disgusting to send them to bed sweaty and dirty. Run a shower for them. Theres two bathrooms in that house, it wouldn't take them that long.
There is no Bri around to help with the kids while Bonnie is gone and Bollie trips no longer looks like they include Jared and Joel going to NYC or LA. I still don't think they will aggressively search for another assistant due to finances and Joel will need to step it up.
Assistant or babysitter? Minimum wage in Utah is only $7.25/hour...and I bet they can afford that to get rid of the kids most of the day. They can have someone take the kids for five hours a day (to avoid a mandatory lunch break after five hours), five days a week and that's way less than $200 a week. Cheaper than daycare for four kids.
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Post by YTIG60 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:12 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Assistant or babysitter? Minimum wage in Utah is only $7.25/hour...and I bet they can afford that to get rid of the kids most of the day. They can have someone take the kids for five hours a day (to avoid a mandatory lunch break after five hours), five days a week and that's way less than $200 a week. Cheaper than daycare for four kids.
I said an assistant. Bri (older/could drive) was working 24/7 when they traveled. I'm sure they paid more than $7.25 an hour with the amount of responsibility she had including taking children to the ER and taking care of several children with Lice. When I wrote this, my thought was more on Joel isn't going on these recent trips. Also, Joel probably has completed editing several vlogs before Bonnie left so he just has the kids to care for, but in the past Bri was there too when Bonnie traveled without him. If we see they hired another assistant, I was wrong. If I remember correctly, Bri advertised for her position -> thirty hours a week.
It is possible Bollie is a drag on their income, YT is not as lucrative compared to years ago and they are being more financially conservative.
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Post by ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:47 pm

YTIG60 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:12 pm
ewokfan11 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:35 pm
Assistant or babysitter? Minimum wage in Utah is only $7.25/hour...and I bet they can afford that to get rid of the kids most of the day. They can have someone take the kids for five hours a day (to avoid a mandatory lunch break after five hours), five days a week and that's way less than $200 a week. Cheaper than daycare for four kids.
I said an assistant. Bri (older/could drive) was working 24/7 when they traveled. I'm sure they paid more than $7.25 an hour with the amount of responsibility she had including taking children to the ER and taking care of several children with Lice. When I wrote this, my thought was more on Joel isn't going on these recent trips. Also, Joel probably has completed editing several vlogs before Bonnie left so he just has the kids to care for, but in the past Bri was there too when Bonnie traveled without him. If we see they hired another assistant, I was wrong. If I remember correctly, Bri advertised for her position -> thirty hours a week.
It is possible Bollie is a drag on their income, YT is not as lucrative compared to years ago and they are being more financially conservative.
My sister has a live-in nanny "au pair" who gets paid shit. Room and board and a car are sort of included in her "income," but her pay is like $200 a week and that's a full-time job.

People don't pay childcare workers very much at all. I am SURE Bonnie and Joel don't pay Bri more than minimum wage.
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Post by HelloSweetie » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:03 pm

I find it very unlikely that Bri only makes minimum wage given how much Bonnie has said she relies on her. I do think she was paid fair enough that it kept her in a job that was less than desirable. Bri isn’t an idiot. She’s smart enough to realize there are better, less demanding minimum wage jobs. That argument is a reach to me.


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Post by FakingIt_MakingIt » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:19 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bri was making minimum wage or close to it. She’s a sweet girl it seems but I don’t think she has any real education that would get her a job much above minimum wage. She nannied before she went on her mission and came right back home to that job, no? And in the beginning the job was set up as a favour to her so she could earn the money needed to go on her mission, I’m sure she felt like she owed it to Bonnie to stay, regardless of the work load. Plus, I have no doubt she loves those kids. Also, she seems a bit star struck with the YouTube famous Bonnie, so I’m sure having Bonnie act like a bestie at times made it easier to swallow the crappier things Bonnie delegates to her.
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Post by ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:32 pm

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Bri was making minimum wage or close to it. She’s a sweet girl it seems but I don’t think she has any real education that would get her a job much above minimum wage. She nannied before she went on her mission and came right back home to that job, no? And in the beginning the job was set up as a favour to her so she could earn the money needed to go on her mission, I’m sure she felt like she owed it to Bonnie to stay, regardless of the work load. Plus, I have no doubt she loves those kids. Also, she seems a bit star struck with the YouTube famous Bonnie, so I’m sure having Bonnie act like a bestie at times made it easier to swallow the crappier things Bonnie delegates to her.
Exactly. She's basically a babysitter in RURAL Utah, of course she's getting minimum wage. I'm sure Bonnie wishes she could pay her even LESS!!!

Bonnie complains about how much they have to pay the Bollie people, so OF COURSE she's paying the babysitter minimum wage.

I agree that Bri has stayed because she's a fan and she's a young married person without much of an education. She doesn't have many other options in little Logan, Utah...probably just other minimum wage jobs.

If you've never been to this part of the country, you probably don't understand how small and rural it is and the options are TOTALLY limited. Especially for women.
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Post by HelloSweetie » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:58 pm

ewokfan11 wrote: If you've never been to this part of the country, you probably don't understand how small and rural it is and the options are TOTALLY limited. Especially for women.
Um, but you’ve said many times you live in Florida so why are you making it sound like you live in that part of the country?



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Post by Nuna » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:47 pm

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ewokfan11 wrote: If you've never been to this part of the country, you probably don't understand how small and rural it is and the options are TOTALLY limited. Especially for women.
Um, but you’ve said many times you live in Florida so why are you making it sound like you live in that part of the country?



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Thank you!!! I had the same thought. They definitely said on E&J they lived in Florida. It seems like every subject that comes up on every board, she (he?) somehow is an expert or has inside knowledge. Glad I’m not the only one that’s noticed.

No one knows what Bree makes. It’s ok for everyone to have opinions without being dismissed because we aren’t from the area.
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Post by ewokfan11 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:59 pm

Nuna wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:47 pm
HelloSweetie wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:58 pm
ewokfan11 wrote: If you've never been to this part of the country, you probably don't understand how small and rural it is and the options are TOTALLY limited. Especially for women.
Um, but you’ve said many times you live in Florida so why are you making it sound like you live in that part of the country?



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Thank you!!! I had the same thought. They definitely said on E&J they lived in Florida. It seems like every subject that comes up on every board, she (he?) somehow is an expert or has inside knowledge. Glad I’m not the only one that’s noticed.

No one knows what Bree makes. It’s ok for everyone to have opinions without being dismissed because we aren’t from the area.
Excuse me for having a CAREER that takes me all over the country!!!! Yes, I currently live in Florida, but I've also lived in SE Idaho (boring AF and pretty much the same as Logan—small town life) and DC and LA and Portland!

I guess some of you have never had jobs that required moving???? GROW UP!
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Post by Nuna » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:22 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:59 pm

Excuse me for having a CAREER that takes me all over the country!!!! Yes, I currently live in Florida, but I've also lived in SE Idaho (boring AF and pretty much the same as Logan—small town life) and DC and LA and Portland!

I guess some of you have never had jobs that required moving???? GROW UP!
Congrats on your career? You do realize you aren’t the only one right? Most of us here are intelligent women who have the right to debate without your pushy attitude taking over every argument because you just know. I’ve seen people ask for proof of your supposed insider knowledge many times and you never have it. You just disappear.

Honestly, you don’t come across as a professional at all. You come across as a child that has a fit whenever their supposed expertise is challenged. Perhaps I’m not the only one who needs to grow up 😉

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