Bonnie and Joel: Spreading all the HERPES Part 8

[lmmomSD]

But Bonnie's command of written English isn't much better.

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[HelloSweetie]

But Bonnie's command of written English isn't much better.

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True, but these are so unclear. It makes me wonder if they are using some sort of auto-creator for the description and just editing it poorly? I've seen bot accounts on Twitter that sound disjointed just like that.

It looks very unprofessional and could be driving away potential sponsors. If she doesn't realize it's a problem, I think Jared could at least say something.... or have Ellie do it. I'm sure she'd love to offer professional feedback! He's helped Ruby before, he could help Joel. Joel certainly does enough for him.

[lmmomSD]

Any clue on why they sometimes spell vlog "vlogg", and sometimes spell it with one "g"?

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[LydiaE]

If you can stomach Grandma Griff's Instagram, you'll see she's not much better. (I.e., labeling a quart of fluid as "quartz", etc.).

[Boredomatitsfinest]

Aha! I believe this explains the weird descriptions https://searchenginewatch.com/sew/how-t ... os-website

They're basically generating the descriptions out of hashtags and popular search keywords in order to get more views. I think if you're applying this technique correctly, it should flow together and not seem out of the ordinary. Which, I think that with practice, they have improved. They aren't /quite/ as cringey and obviously computer generated lately. Look at the descriptions now compared to when they first started using this technique. They're still repetitive and don't have a completely natural flow, but they have certainly improved from their first trials of using the technique.

Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this explains it.


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[HelloSweetie]

Aha! I believe this explains the weird descriptions https://searchenginewatch.com/sew/how-t ... os-website

They're basically generating the descriptions out of hashtags and popular search keywords in order to get more views. I think if you're applying this technique correctly, it should flow together and not seem out of the ordinary. Which, I think that with practice, they have improved. They aren't /quite/ as cringey and obviously computer generated lately. Look at the descriptions now compared to when they first started using this technique. They're still repetitive and don't have a completely natural flow, but they have certainly improved from their first trials of using the technique.

Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this explains it.


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Sounds about right. This is why they sound like those Twitter bots I mentioned.

They should still be editing them for clarity though

[Scar2016]

She doesn't get a pass for showing Boston naked save for his underwear, especially when he starts putting his hands down the front of them and for her to mention why we might not have heard his whole story due to 'because.....you know' [sic], insert Bonnie eye roll. That whole clip should have been left out. She may have stopped (so far) showing bathroom/bath scenes but this is no better.

[Scar2016]

I have a question seeing as the underwear thing's been brought up. When do Mormon 'kidses' start wearing the Mormon designated stuff? I see Ruby's daughter Julie just had her baptism, not sure how old she is - 8 or 9? Is that when it starts?

[actuallydear]

I have a question seeing as the underwear thing's been brought up. When do Mormon 'kidses' start wearing the Mormon designated stuff? I see Ruby's daughter Julie just had her baptism, not sure how old she is - 8 or 9? Is that when it starts?

you receive your endowments usually right before you go on a mission, or just before you're married.

[Scar2016]

Description under todays vlog:

Published on 8 Feb 2017
I'll Like You Forever I'll Love You Always. Bonnie repeats her favorite children's book, while holding Boston and rocking him to sleep in her arms. Joel and Bonnie do a short Cinderella Parody, and they show off their strange supernatural vocals. Joel takes the kids mudding in his little car Franke. Although Joel gets the car stuck and creates a memorable experience, he doesn't disrupt the boys naps. Olivia, Cody, Boston and Lincoln all play with dad on the floor and enjoy a bedtime story with Bonnie, just another day in our family life. Watch for the outtakes and bloopers.
Subscribe for more real life vloggs. (incase you were wondering why I misspell the word vlogs, it's because it's a highly searched word)

Is that a direct reply ^ to posters here mentioning the alternated spelling of vlog/g?

Aaaaannnnd we're back to bath tub scenes again. So much for hoping she'd changed on that front.

[tratra58]

Description under todays vlog:

Published on 8 Feb 2017
I'll Like You Forever I'll Love You Always. Bonnie repeats her favorite children's book, while holding Boston and rocking him to sleep in her arms. Joel and Bonnie do a short Cinderella Parody, and they show off their strange supernatural vocals. Joel takes the kids mudding in his little car Franke. Although Joel gets the car stuck and creates a memorable experience, he doesn't disrupt the boys naps. Olivia, Cody, Boston and Lincoln all play with dad on the floor and enjoy a bedtime story with Bonnie, just another day in our family life. Watch for the outtakes and bloopers.
Subscribe for more real life vloggs. (incase you were wondering why I misspell the word vlogs, it's because it's a highly searched word)

Is that a direct reply ^ to posters here mentioning the alternated spelling of vlog/g?

Aaaaannnnd we're back to bath tub scenes again. So much for hoping she'd changed on that front.

Joel's daily life now evolves around silly childish moments during the day singing ridiculously, riding down muddy streets and getting his car stuck. What a waste of time or hardly memorable. I think the reason Joel isn't pursuing a business is the lack of ambition. This new role model for their sons isn't a positive...a silly YouTube dad and he is no different than the others.

I dare Bonnie to ask her audience in a vlog if they would film their children nude or not fully dressed for strangers to view on YouTube. She is not a bright mom and incapable of protecting her children.


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[nc_mom]

Hi everyone! I've been a reader of the site for a long time but have never made an account....until now. I can't hold back any longer. I for the most part like Bonnie but some of the things she says or does has me scratching my head. Ex. "I don't want to show my laundry pile cause there might be underwear in there." Meanwhile, Boston is showed in nothing but underwear? What?!

She doesn't want anyone seeing underwear in her laundry pile but it's okay to film her children naked in the bath. Does that make sense? These people are airheads with poor judgment about important matters. I don't think any of them have much of an education.

[tratra58]

Hi everyone! I've been a reader of the site for a long time but have never made an account....until now. I can't hold back any longer. I for the most part like Bonnie but some of the things she says or does has me scratching my head. Ex. "I don't want to show my laundry pile cause there might be underwear in there." Meanwhile, Boston is showed in nothing but underwear? What?!

She doesn't want anyone seeing underwear in her laundry pile but it's okay to film her children naked in the bath. Does that make sense? These people are airheads with poor judgment about important matters. I don't think any of them have much of an education.

If you read about their faith, their actions goes against their idea of "Dress and Appearance" section on their website talking about the importance with modesty.

"Never lower your standards of dress. Do not use a special occasion as an excuse to be immodest. When you dress immodestly, you send a message that is contrary to your identity as a son or daughter of God."
https://www.lds.org/youth/for-the-stren ... e?lang=eng

[nc_mom]

Hi everyone! I've been a reader of the site for a long time but have never made an account....until now. I can't hold back any longer. I for the most part like Bonnie but some of the things she says or does has me scratching my head. Ex. "I don't want to show my laundry pile cause there might be underwear in there." Meanwhile, Boston is showed in nothing but underwear? What?!

She doesn't want anyone seeing underwear in her laundry pile but it's okay to film her children naked in the bath. Does that make sense? These people are airheads with poor judgment about important matters. I don't think any of them have much of an education.

If you read about their faith, their actions goes against their idea of "Dress and Appearance" section on their website talking about the importance with modesty.

"Never lower your standards of dress. Do not use a special occasion as an excuse to be immodest. When you dress immodestly, you send a message that is contrary to your identity as a son or daughter of God."
https://www.lds.org/youth/for-the-stren ... e?lang=eng

So their idea of modesty to conform to the Mormon faith allows them to film their naked children taking a bath and posting that over the internet to millions of strangers? They have a warped sense of what is modest. I and many others could care less about what they wear but find it very offensive that they film their young children as a means of producing income. Perverted sense of right and wrong imo. Who is there to protect the children? At least teenagers have a voice in whether or not they want to be filmed but young children are defenseless and just do as they are told.

[tratra58]

So their idea of modesty to conform to the Mormon faith allows them to film their naked children taking a bath and posting that over the internet to millions of strangers? They have a warped sense of what is modest. I and many others could care less about what they wear but find it very offensive that they film their young children as a means of producing income. Perverted sense of right and wrong imo. Who is there to protect the children? At least teenagers have a voice in whether or not they want to be filmed but young children are defenseless and just do as they are told.

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No, I don't think they would look positively on children being exposed on YouTube or they should be dressed fully. I am not an expert on this faith, but I do think modesty is important part of their life. So that is the perplexing thing with some of these families who seem oblivious to not having their children fully cloth and my favorite saying...stay out of the bathroom since privacy should be sacred there.

[menehune]

I believe in giving credit where it's due. The bath footage is being blown WAY out of proportion this time IMO. She was careful to make sure we didn't see anything. She kept the camera high, and we saw no more of him in the bath than we see of kids in the hot tub. She also didn't make it the thumbnail.

Plus they fixed the descriptions. It may still not be completely grammatically correct, but its as correct as a lot of the posts nitpicking their grammar here have been

Joel said he had things to do, we just didn't see them. I disagree that he's just as bad as the other YT dads. We must be comparing him to different vloggers ::shrugs::

Bonnie recognized that you hold your whiny toddler and give them extra love when they are being "ornery" and that you don't just send them away. Big plus!

She made a healthy meal at home.

All in all, this was probably one of the most relatable vlogs they have had in a long time. I read here before I watched it, and was really nervous, but I really didn't see what everyone else was talking about.

I did side-eye the whole part with the car and kids...very red-neck (interesting he doesn't call Jared to help).

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I am Mormon...and NO, filming their children naked/in their underwear is NOT ok...I don't know why they would ever do it, when they wouldn't film themselves that way. Church standards aside.

[tratra58]

I believe in giving credit where it's due. The bath footage is being blown WAY out of proportion this time IMO. She was careful to make sure we didn't see anything. She kept the camera high, and we saw no more of him in the bath than we see of kids in the hot tub. She also didn't make it the thumbnail.

Plus they fixed the descriptions. It may still not be completely grammatically correct, but its as correct as a lot of the posts nitpicking their grammar here have been

Joel said he had things to do, we just didn't see them. I disagree that he's just as bad as the other YT dads. We must be comparing him to different vloggers ::shrugs::

Bonnie recognized that you hold your whiny toddler and give them extra love when they are being "ornery" and that you don't just send them away. Big plus!

She made a healthy meal at home.

All in all, this was probably one of the most relatable vlogs they have had in a long time. I read here before I watched it, and was really nervous, but I really didn't see what everyone else was talking about.

I did side-eye the whole part with the car and kids...very red-neck (interesting he doesn't call Jared to help).

I was thinking more of the day before's vlog when a child was not fully dressed for a good portion of the vlog. I also think everyone deserves privacy when in the bathroom. It is a matter of opinion with Joel...I am just going down another road (not the muddy one shown today;) seeing YouTube as a less than respectable job.

[IceCreamCone]

I believe in giving credit where it's due. The bath footage is being blown WAY out of proportion this time IMO. She was careful to make sure we didn't see anything. She kept the camera high, and we saw no more of him in the bath than we see of kids in the hot tub. She also didn't make it the thumbnail.

Plus they fixed the descriptions. It may still not be completely grammatically correct, but its as correct as a lot of the posts nitpicking their grammar here have been

Joel said he had things to do, we just didn't see them. I disagree that he's just as bad as the other YT dads. We must be comparing him to different vloggers ::shrugs::

Bonnie recognized that you hold your whiny toddler and give them extra love when they are being "ornery" and that you don't just send them away. Big plus!

She made a healthy meal at home.

All in all, this was probably one of the most relatable vlogs they have had in a long time. I read here before I watched it, and was really nervous, but I really didn't see what everyone else was talking about.

I did side-eye the whole part with the car and kids...very red-neck (interesting he doesn't call Jared to help).

Plus they read a book and Bonnie mentioned that they wouldn't film the kids if they weren't into it. And she didn't vlog any of Boston being ornery! I agree with giving credit where it's due. If theres a checklist of things people say they should "at least do" she went down it today.

Also, honest question, Bonnie's vlogs have actual content that could be discussed but everyday it seems to become the board for general ETHICS OF VLOGGING or LDS discussion. Separate boards have been created for this right? It's annoying for those of us that want to discuss the actual vlogs but have to wade through pages and pages of general discussion.

I cringed at the car part too. I've never really understood the appeal of "4 bying," but feel like if you're going to do it you should leave the kids out of it, and maybe use a vehicle that has 4 wheel drive!

Oh. And the bathtub footage was fine. We saw NOTHING. For years Daily Bumps showed Oliver in the bath on a nightly basis and people gave them credit for being careful for nothing to be seen. I agree that it was no different than when we see the kids in E&J's hot tub, and no one seems to notice that.

[tratra58]

I am Mormon...and NO, filming their children naked/in their underwear is NOT ok...I don't know why they would ever do it, when they wouldn't film themselves that way. Church standards aside.

Thank you. I respect all faiths and I appreciate when a message from a person, like yourself, gives us information about their religion.