Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by Playsinrain » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:03 am

I'm kinda sad to see the Scarface bathroom go!! LOL but i do really like the tile, especially the tile for the shower.. thats really pretty.
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by Playsinrain » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:08 am

Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by ewokfan11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:12 pm

Playsinrain wrote:
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Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
Well, if he really does have a serious problem, then Katie probably just doesn't want anything in the house to even tempt him. Addicts are known to steal things. I had a "friend" steal a bottle of Vicodin from my bathroom medicine cabinet that was left over from oral surgery once.
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by lmmomSD » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:28 pm

Plus, if he is trying to stay clean, just having someone even legitimately on meds in front of him could be triggering. And having it in the house would definitely be hard. At some point, it probably won't be a big deal, but as new as Cullen is in recovery, it could make things difficult for him.

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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by captainoflife » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:52 pm

I think this is how they function in everyday life, not just on YT. Something huge happens, it’s an issue for a day or two, then they put a bandaid on it until it blow up again, then they fight for two days, then it’s swept under the rug.....

This is how they’ve addressed every huge event so how are we surprised? I do think the addiction is very real, but so is the need to make money and Katie’s constant need for a cookie cutter life. They need to make “normal” vlogs for the money. Kids aren’t going to (or should I say hopefully won’t) watch a video about addiction. I don’t think Cullen ever intended on truly opening up about it because he knows more than anyone they need money. Katie needed this for her channel, and honestly so did the podcast. People are only going to watch videos about codependency for awhile and they will get bored but now that she can officially add “addiction” in the titles, people are going to be more intrigued to see if she gives any details since they aren’t on the family channel. She’s killing two birds with one stone — they admit Cullen is an addict, she starts including addiction talk in her videos, they make more money on all three channels.

They’ve functioned this way for years it’s not going to stop until something huge happens.
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by Playsinrain » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:23 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:12 pm
Playsinrain wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:08 am
Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
Well, if he really does have a serious problem, then Katie probably just doesn't want anything in the house to even tempt him. Addicts are known to steal things. I had a "friend" steal a bottle of Vicodin from my bathroom medicine cabinet that was left over from oral surgery once.
I get that, but on the other hand... she's not concerned with his drinking, or her drinking around him or keeping booze in the house, which doesn't make since sense he had admitted at first that his major issue was alcohol. Do you get what i'm saying? If katie needed the meds, she could buy a lock box and lock them up to keep Cullen from them. I mean god forbid something happen but what if katie fell down the stairs and broke her leg.. what would she do then? The way she said it made it sound like SHE was worried about having them in the house for herself. I completely understand the need to keep substances away from addicts, but it sounded like she was uneasy even taking them. The way she said it was just suspicious, and i'm suspect of her right now as it is... just come clean Katie!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by Playsinrain » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:38 pm

Please god switch the sense and since in your brain in that post ^ i just noticed my dyslexic ass flip flopped them and i'm nauseous...
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by nutbagmcgee » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:07 pm

It sucks that she can't/won't take pain meds, I know she is in lots of pain. I have an acquaintance whose spouse is an addict. She had a c-section, he took her meds to get filled, she was discharged and he had taken all of her pain meds. She recovered from a c-section with tylenol. She is a puss, it was not pretty.
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by freshbalsam » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:49 pm

lmmomSD wrote:If Cullen has only been "in recovery" for a couple of weeks, why is Katie uploading a video about handling relapse? It's not like he has been in some legit program and working it, and things were changing, and she took a deep breath and thought, "We're ok now" and then POW! Relapse. He's been to a few meetings and done a couple of podcasts. BFD.
It's "Cullen's problem" until she wants to make a video about it.

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Thank you!!!!! She was quick to say “don’t ask me any questions” but also is speedy enough to be popping out videos left and right about his addiction and recovery.

Regardless of whether it was the type of question she was dodging or not, either you’re going to be open to talk and answer questions or you aren’t. Don’t act like you can only answer 3/10 questions but can make 9/10 videos about the topic.


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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by ewokfan11 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:03 pm

Wow! I've never had to do an insurance claim for anything at my house, but will their insurance cover their entire bathroom reno?? That's going to cost A FORTUNE! I'm thinking $15K-20K+. Especially hiring people to do all the work.

Makes me curious if Cullen staged the leak and let it go for weeks/months so they could file the claim. He said he knew it was leaking for weeks before he told Katie.
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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by FakingIt_MakingIt » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:12 pm

ewokfan11 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:03 pm
Wow! I've never had to do an insurance claim for anything at my house, but will their insurance cover their entire bathroom reno?? That's going to cost A FORTUNE! I'm thinking $15K-20K+. Especially hiring people to do all the work.

Makes me curious if Cullen staged the leak and let it go for weeks/months so they could file the claim. He said he knew it was leaking for weeks before he told Katie.

I haven’t had to either *knock on wood* haha, but it does make sense that they would do it all. Cullen said the extent of the Reno would depend on insurance and how things went. From what he said it was kind of a situation where if you fixed the leak you’d have to fix the tile so you’d have to fix the wallpaper and so on and so on.
I would assume it’s likely they’re paying out of pocket for some of the expenses (like the tub), you could replace the tile around the tub when doing the floor but not replace the actual tub.
Also, I don’t think he left it leaking so they could make a claim. This is the same guy who left water running into a garbage bin for his fish tank for over 24 hours and flooded his basement. He’s not responsible/high/drunk.
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Post by darlingyep6 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:20 am

Honestly, I think they should just sell that house and downsize to something that is appropriate for both their family size and financial budget.
I’m interested on how the heck they are paying the mortgage on that nearly $700k house, plus bills (which I know with houses are even more expensive) and this sudden master bath reno... Also wondering why they waited so long to renovate that dang bathroom, it’s so fugly!!! That should’ve been at the top of the list, not some playroom that isn’t even used. The whole inside of that house could use some TLC.


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Post by chloe6124 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:08 am

ewokfan11 wrote:Wow! I've never had to do an insurance claim for anything at my house, but will their insurance cover their entire bathroom reno?? That's going to cost A FORTUNE! I'm thinking $15K-20K+. Especially hiring people to do all the work.

Makes me curious if Cullen staged the leak and let it go for weeks/months so they could file the claim. He said he knew it was leaking for weeks before he told Katie.

It does make sense. I remember we had a leak and it ruined one cabinet in the kitchen downstairs. Insurance paid for all new cabinets because the old ones you couldn’t get anymore.

We had a pipe freeze and burst at our old house. We were in the process of putting new foyer flooring and kitchen flooring down. The old had already been ripped up and we had already purchased the new flooring. Insurance paid for the new flooring despite it not having been put down yet. It was kind of crazy because they kept asking if kitchen cabinets were damaged which they were not when this happened. I have never seen anything like that from a insurance co.


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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by lmmomSD » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:16 am

darlingyep6 wrote:Honestly, I think they should just sell that house and downsize to something that is appropriate for both their family size and financial budget.
I’m interested on how the heck they are paying the mortgage on that nearly $700k house, plus bills (which I know with houses are even more expensive) and this sudden master bath reno... Also wondering why they waited so long to renovate that dang bathroom, it’s so fugly!!! That should’ve been at the top of the list, not some playroom that isn’t even used. The whole inside of that house could use some TLC.


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I don't know how easily they could sell that house. It was on the market for a long time before they bought it. They would probably lose money on it, just because it's such a white elephant and needs work to update it. And since (as has been said here-- I don't know for sure) apparently it was seller financed, so I don't know what the implications of selling it at a loss would be.

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Post by RootBeerFloatie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:14 am

There's been a lot of talk over the years about them possibly having a trust fund from Katie's parents or grandparents, and while we may never actually know the answer to that, I do wonder if these two knuckleheads are under the impression that if their finances get too bad her parents are just going to bail them out regardless. We don't know what else they have going on financially, but we do know that their channel is basically failing and not generating enough income to possibly pay for their mortgage and the extra things that we see, including Cullen's past drug habits. I wonder if they're less than concerned about paying their mortgage because they know that Katie's parents we'll never let them lose the house? If they went to them and said "we need x amount of dollars or your grandkids are going to be homeless" then you best believe they'd hand it right over.
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Post by lmmomSD » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:19 am

Maybe Cullen was dealing to support his habit? That would explain Katie "suddenly" wanting him to stop and being worried about him.
Totally speculating, of course. There's no evidence to support this.

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Post by Lovethesnark » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:01 am

I don’t think Cullen would sell drugs. Not because he’s above it, but because he can make more on Instagram. They could be churning out ads like Brit Null, but they don’t.


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Post by HelloSweetie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:22 am

Lovethesnark wrote:I don’t think Cullen would sell drugs. Not because he’s above it, but because he can make more on Instagram. They could be churning out ads like Brit Null, but they don’t.


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I don’t know that I buy that either. That’s basically saying, “they could be making more money on IG, but just choose not to.”

A lot of people who sell weed start doing it so they can save money on their own product. It’s not like it would require him to put in a lot of effort like seeking out sponsorships would.


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Post by Playsinrain » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:27 am

I dont get them impression that he was selling at all. That's not something he could have easily hide from Katie with them both being home all day. katie might have resigned herself to him smoking, but there is no way she would have been ok with him dealing. I think that's a huge jump.
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Post by lmmomSD » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:28 am

HelloSweetie wrote:
Lovethesnark wrote:I don’t think Cullen would sell drugs. Not because he’s above it, but because he can make more on Instagram. They could be churning out ads like Brit Null, but they don’t.


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I don’t know that I buy that either. That’s basically saying, “they could be making more money on IG, but just choose not to.”

A lot of people who sell weed start doing it so they can save money on their own product. It’s not like it would require him to put in a lot of effort like seeking out sponsorships would.


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And pot can really take away your motivation to work hard. I am not talking about the occasional joint to relax or using it like a glass of wine. But people who smoke a _lot_ are often not very motivated. So being a go getter and getting lots of sponsorships wouldn't be top of Cullen's list if he's smoking enough to concern Katie.

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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by lmmomSD » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:29 am

Playsinrain wrote:I dont get them impression that he was selling at all. That's not something he could have easily hide from Katie with them both being home all day. katie might have resigned herself to him smoking, but there is no way she would have been ok with him dealing. I think that's a huge jump.
Maybe that is what made her put her foot down.
It's just a thought.

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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by HelloSweetie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:35 am

Who said he was hiding it all from Katie?

We know she knew a lot about his problem. WE KNEW HE HAD A PROBLEM.

I think Katie cares more about her image than anything. She clearly did know he was using excessively at one point and was fine with it. I don’t trust their ever changing story.


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Re: Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

Post by Playsinrain » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:47 pm

HelloSweetie wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:35 am
Who said he was hiding it all from Katie?

We know she knew a lot about his problem. WE KNEW HE HAD A PROBLEM.

I think Katie cares more about her image than anything. She clearly did know he was using excessively at one point and was fine with it. I don’t trust their ever changing story.


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He said he hid it from her for years. Or at least tried too.

I wish Cullen could talk about his issues without Katie breathing down his neck about it. I feel like things would make a lot more sense if we didn't have katie censoring everything he wanted to talk about. She is the double standard in this situation. Like when she would tell him "if it's ok to smoke weed then why don't you tell the vlog about it??" trying to hold it over his head. But now that he's doing just that, she wants to back track on all of it. I honestly think Cullen would be an open book if it wasn't for Katie's need to keep up her facade.
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Post by RootBeerFloatie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:10 pm

His own sister went to jail for dealing pot, so I'd hope he'd at least be a little smarter than that, but this is Cullen we're talking about so...
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Post by Theirmom » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:38 pm

I’m starting to think the only “problem” Katie had with the pot smoking was budget related.

Money’s tight. If she has to give up her shopping addiction, you can bet your ass she was going to resent every penny he spent on weed.

I firmly believe that if they were more financially successful, Katie would have no problem with
Cullens addiction issues. If they had enough cash for her to drown herself in Kohl’s clearance items, he could be perma-high and she wouldn’t give two shits about it.
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