C&K: Drink a little drink. Smoke a little smoke. Part 13

[FitMom]

I want to know why Katie is so insecure? Why is she questioning Cullen's intentions? Does anyone else find that completely odd?! I can't help but wonder if their was an incident of an emotional affair with Cullen or something like that? Why would Katie feel like Cullen doesn't really want to show her affection?


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Self confidence issues can really put bad thoughts in your head and i think that may be part of it. I don't question weather they love one another, their relationship comes off as the most genuine of any of the vloggers i watch and Cullen has been vocal in the past about how he thinks cheaters are pretty scummy, so i don't think there is an issue like that. I have been married to my husband for nearly 15 years and there has never been any concern of affairs of any type between us, but i also struggle greatly with self confidence. There are days where i worry that i'm not good enough for him, or why would he ever want to be with me.. even though i know in my heart that he loves me unconditionally. So in my own head it's not odd to me at all bc i can understand those feelings of not being worthy or attractive enough for your spouse even after years of marriage. It's hard to not be comfortable in your own skin.
I don't think cullen shows her physical affection as often as she would like (and i don't mean sex, i mean hugs, kisses, hell..a slap on the ass lol) bc she has voiced that before, so this is an issue that has been going on for some time. I don't think that he means anything by it, or does it to make her feel insecure, I think they just have different love languages (as cliche as that is lol) and that he needs to work more on showing her physical affection bc she needs it. I don't think that he's not attracted too her, he has made comments to her in the recent past when she has brought up her body assuring her that he loves the way she looks...i just think that he doesn't realize that he's not showing her in the ways that mean the most to her. this is for sure something that therapy and counseling could help them with.

So true, I remember her being insecure even before being pregnant with Gaines. She was an average weight and she was still always making comments about not wanting to try on clothes and not liking where she was at with her weight. So, I am sure now it is really hard for her.

[Playsinrain]

Cullen can say he thinks cheaters are scummy, but he's been suggestive while "joking around" with Ellie. That has to be embarrassing to Katie and isn't exactly respectful, even if she pretends it's funny.

Katie throws it right back at him with Jared though.. I highly HIGHLY doubt Cullen has the hots for Ellie, as much as Ellie wishes (and thinks, bc we all know Ellie thinks Ellie is the best thing ever). I think it's just a long running joke. I remember not too long ago Katie got a text while they were vlogging and she was like "Oh that's just Jared.." and Cullen asked her what it was about and she was just like"i can't really discuss that with you.." or something suggesting it was a more than just friendly text convo. They both laughed about it. I'm sure she was just kidding, but she does throw it back at him.

[Playsinrain]

I want to know why Katie is so insecure? Why is she questioning Cullen's intentions? Does anyone else find that completely odd?! I can't help but wonder if their was an incident of an emotional affair with Cullen or something like that? Why would Katie feel like Cullen doesn't really want to show her affection?


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Self confidence issues can really put bad thoughts in your head and i think that may be part of it. I don't question weather they love one another, their relationship comes off as the most genuine of any of the vloggers i watch and Cullen has been vocal in the past about how he thinks cheaters are pretty scummy, so i don't think there is an issue like that. I have been married to my husband for nearly 15 years and there has never been any concern of affairs of any type between us, but i also struggle greatly with self confidence. There are days where i worry that i'm not good enough for him, or why would he ever want to be with me.. even though i know in my heart that he loves me unconditionally. So in my own head it's not odd to me at all bc i can understand those feelings of not being worthy or attractive enough for your spouse even after years of marriage. It's hard to not be comfortable in your own skin.
I don't think cullen shows her physical affection as often as she would like (and i don't mean sex, i mean hugs, kisses, hell..a slap on the ass lol) bc she has voiced that before, so this is an issue that has been going on for some time. I don't think that he means anything by it, or does it to make her feel insecure, I think they just have different love languages (as cliche as that is lol) and that he needs to work more on showing her physical affection bc she needs it. I don't think that he's not attracted too her, he has made comments to her in the recent past when she has brought up her body assuring her that he loves the way she looks...i just think that he doesn't realize that he's not showing her in the ways that mean the most to her. this is for sure something that therapy and counseling could help them with.

So true, I remember her being insecure even before being pregnant with Gaines. She was an average weight and she was still always making comments about not wanting to try on clothes and not liking where she was at with her weight. So, I am sure now it is really hard for her.

I see a lot of myself in Katie in those regards, I have always related to her in that sense and got the impression she has never been very confidant. I don't think i will ever have great self esteem not matter what my size was or how good anyone else told me i looked.

[Bethypooh51]

You can tell how unhappy Katie is. I think they should go in an entirely different direction and take their channel to the health and fitness journey. They both need to get healthy again and what a great journey to follow as they include their whole family in the process. From cooking healthy, activities to promote health, maybe a spa vacation with just C&K. The older adults are all about health and fitness and there is a huge 30-40 crowd that they could capture too. Anyways C&K if you are reading it is just an idea. Either way they need to put their marriage and family first or they are going to end up divorced. Wishing them all the luck in the world.


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[HelloSweetie]

Cullen can say he thinks cheaters are scummy, but he's been suggestive while "joking around" with Ellie. That has to be embarrassing to Katie and isn't exactly respectful, even if she pretends it's funny.

Katie throws it right back at him with Jared though.. I highly HIGHLY doubt Cullen has the hots for Ellie, as much as Ellie wishes (and thinks, bc we all know Ellie thinks Ellie is the best thing ever). I think it's just a long running joke. I remember not too long ago Katie got a text while they were vlogging and she was like "Oh that's just Jared.." and Cullen asked her what it was about and she was just like"i can't really discuss that with you.." or something suggesting it was a more than just friendly text convo. They both laughed about it. I'm sure she was just kidding, but she does throw it back at him.

I don't know. If Katie is at all insecure, then I can think of one IG story in particular that could have hurt. He and Ellie were alone Kate at night during one vacay and she's dancing in front of the fire while he films. It felt more than just funny.

I used to really love Cullen too, ans would often defend him, but he has been very "off" lately. I don't think we can say doe certain he'd never cheat anymore. I bet if asked Shay and Austin hated cheaters too. It's not something a married man is going to admittedly be in favour of.

[ewokfan11]

I've LONG thought Cullen would be the next YT husband/father to be outed for having an affair. It's obvious he's no long into Katie and he's extremely flirtatious with other women. There is definitely something up between them. I honestly thought this vlog was their announcement of a separation.

Did today's vlog HAVE to be almost 20 minutes of complaining and not really explaining what's really going on?? They could have summed that all up in less than 5!!!

Sorry, another thing that bugged me is that vloggers ALL say "you only see 10 minutes of our day," so why are they complaining they are a slave to pulling out the camera?? They obvious don't really film all day!!

I don't even watch them anymore, so they can take weeks (or forever) off for all I care. I find Cullen to be a CHILD and NOT FUNNY and completely LAZY. They were much more interesting when they were BOTH working.

[workfromhomemom]

It's funny how different some of us took the video. I took it as they are just in a rougher patch in their life and trying to figure things out and vlogging is one of them. I took Katie's comments about complaining as someone is always going to have it worse than you and they are appreciative of their life. I hope they look at things and realize they don't have to do every trip or fly across country for a dumb ass Lanninng pool party or go to every convention. I also think what she was saying about the hug (as someone mentioned it) was that she was wondering if he was hugging her just to vlog it. I know I have had these patches with my husband and we've been married longer than they have. I think their class is a married couple's bible study and it's maybe opening their eyes to how they want to change things for the better. I think that's awesome and they work on it.

Like a few others have said, I have found it very ironic how people find it acceptable for them to complain about their struggles and others can't complain about theirs. I think a lot of people think Katie thinks she's entitled to a certain lifestyle just because of how she grew up. I see no indication in that at all. I have always thought she was very down to Earth. It's funny the assumptions people come up with.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I can see why Katie would feel insecure. She's got a lot to live up to, her mom is a very classy lady, her sister is seeming to follow in that footstep. And nobody wants to be that sister who is frumpy, married to a man child and living in a starter home.

And I am in no way saying IF Cullen is cheating or anything of that sort that it's ok but Katie doesn't look the same as she did when they got married. And I know, people change, looks shouldn't matter when you're married, but all I'm saying is if she's already feeling uncomfortable with her weight then I am SURE she wonders what Cullen thinks. It doesn't matter how much he tells her he's into her or how physical he is with her, there is definitely a part of her wondering if he still thinks she is as hot as when they got married because I can promise you she doesn't feel that hot. Add to that Cullen's obvious appreciation for smaller body types and "friendly" flirting no wonder she is feeling like he doesn't want her. And that's all without him having actually cheated or having a porn addiction.

I still want to know what happened the other day. They didn't not have a vlog because of stress. Something specific happened.

[daffodilz]

I appreciate that they made an effort to address why they didn't post a vlog Wednesday, but Katie was on the verge of being condescending, which made it hard for me to watch. The bottom line for me is this....they are not happy and until they work out their marriage and find happiness again, their channel will continue to lose views.

They need to take a few weeks off or longer if needed and concentrate on their marriage first and foremost....clear their heads, decide a new direction their channel needs to take or if it's even worth it. If so, come up with a new game plan; perhaps ask for feedback. I'm grasping here, I know...lol. It's just that they have been around for a long time and I want them to succeed.

[Whotiesyourshoes]

I can see why Katie would feel insecure. She's got a lot to live up to, her mom is a very classy lady, her sister is seeming to follow in that footstep. And nobody wants to be that sister who is frumpy, married to a man child and living in a starter home.

And I am in no way saying IF Cullen is cheating or anything of that sort that it's ok but Katie doesn't look the same as she did when they got married. And I know, people change, looks shouldn't matter when you're married, but all I'm saying is if she's already feeling uncomfortable with her weight then I am SURE she wonders what Cullen thinks. It doesn't matter how much he tells her he's into her or how physical he is with her, there is definitely a part of her wondering if he still thinks she is as hot as when they got married because I can promise you she doesn't feel that hot. Add to that Cullen's obvious appreciation for smaller body types and "friendly" flirting no wonder she is feeling like he doesn't want her. And that's all without him having actually cheated or having a porn addiction.


I still want to know what happened the other day. They didn't not have a vlog because of stress. Something specific happened.

I agree with you that I think there was a specific reason why they didn’t blog Wednesday. It wasn’t just because they had nothing to say. Something happened. We will probably never know what though

[amf2224]

I'm sorry..... but my best complaining (yes, they were complaining) was when they included FLORIDA in their busy schedules. I'm sorry, you're complaining about going to Florida for a VACATION?!!!?


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[askeptichere]

I'm actually really surprised the last 2 videos have such low views. "What Happened Yesterday" is only at 55k, and "Changes" is only at 26k so far. You'd think such different videos for them would get people curious. Part of me thought they skipped a vlog to drum up views, but if that was their intent, that didn't work out. Both videos also have many more thumbs down than usual, but that's not surprising.

[askeptichere]

I'm sorry..... but my best complaining (yes, they were complaining) was when they included FLORIDA in their busy schedules. I'm sorry, you're complaining about going to Florida for a VACATION?!!!?


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Seriously!? Really glad I chose to not watch now.

[BadWolf]

I'm sorry..... but my best complaining (yes, they were complaining) was when they included FLORIDA in their busy schedules. I'm sorry, you're complaining about going to Florida for a VACATION?!!!?


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Not just Florida, but California too... complete with a clip of Cullen diving into DB's pool. Life is so hard

Something doesn't seem right to me. My BS metre is telling me this is all a setup of some sort. I'm starting to wonder if the every day daily vloggers have realized that they can get away with not vlogging everyday, and it these "needed breaks" are just a way to dial it back without having the fans turn on them. Look how many fans now think E&J and C&K work too hard. Now they can start vlogging less, doing more one takes and live feeds, and still rake in the money.

Lazier and lazier, and yet still exhausted.

[HashtagBlessed]

I'm sorry..... but my best complaining (yes, they were complaining) was when they included FLORIDA in their busy schedules. I'm sorry, you're complaining about going to Florida for a VACATION?!!!?


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Seriously!? Really glad I chose to not watch now.

They spent the majority of the video trying to convince viewers they weren't whiny, ungrateful jerks, and then spent the rest of the video proving themselves wrong.

Katie came across as very defensive to me- she is clearly bothered. I thought her little rant about "yes, there are people whose parents work three jobs each and they have seventeen kids and they live in a cardboard box under the interstate" was super rude and dismissive. She really doesn't get how privileged she is and sometimes she comes across as a huge snob. And I say this as someone who comes from a similarly privileged background, but Katie just doesn't get it.

She can't fathom why people aren't more sympathetic to her plight of traveling to CA and FL for fun. Not compulsory, not work-related, just vacation. Yes, moving and selling a house is stressful, but they were dumb in how they went about it. And most people would consider moving into their dream home "good stress." Just be thankful you are privileged enough to own your home and have a roof over your head, let alone live in a $650,000 house. And she's counting three birthday parties as part of her oh-so-heavy stress load? Seriously?
Get out of here. Something else is going on there- none of that should be pushing you to your breaking point unless your marriage is in serious trouble.

I would imagine that uploading a POPULAR ten to fifteen minute vlog every day and hustling for sponsorship and brand collaborations is hard. That does sound like a production. But their channel has stagnated and their content isn't fresh. Even this click-bait sit-down videos are garnering relatively few views.

I think daily vlogging in general is narcissistic, and I think certain attention-seeking personality types are attracted to it in the first place. But I also think that the vlogging itself and the attention-seeking behavior would be very toxic to a family and a marriage. The vlogging really feeds into the search for outside validation and the self-aggrandizing. I really think people get so caught up in creating this seemingly perfect life online that their real life comes second and eventually things fall apart. I think there's something going on with their marriage, and I think some of it is vlog related and some of it unrelated to the vlog.

[HashtagBlessed]

As an addendum to my post above, if normal life events like taking trips together and planning children's birthday parties are making you feel more distant and less emotionally connected, then it's probably not the trips or the parties, it's your marriage. I've been with my husband for almost 9 years, you go through periods where you're connecting and you go through periods where life gets crazy and you're out of sync. But I suspect something deeper is going on here, and I suspect Cullen's man-child ways are catching up with him now that they have two young kids to raise and I think Katie is at her breaking point. But I think they're using the move, the birthday parties, the trips as an excuse for whatever is really going on.

At least they seem to be recognize how unhealthy it is to live for YouTube every day. It's concerning though that as parents they don't seem to recognize how bizarre it is to do that to your children.

[lmmomSD]

I'm sorry..... but my best complaining (yes, they were complaining) was when they included FLORIDA in their busy schedules. I'm sorry, you're complaining about going to Florida for a VACATION?!!!?


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Exactly. I'm sorry, but if going to stay at your family's beach house for free is so stressful, just don't do it. And I don't think saying that Katie expects a certain lifestyle because of the way she was raised means she's a snob. It's just what she knows, and the way she thinks she should live. She's not a snob at all. But I do believe she does have certain expectations.
And I never said it wasn't ok for them to complain about their problems. I said it before, and I still believe that it's totally ok to talk about being stressed because you have two small kids or marital problems. But saying party planning, going to Florida, and going to California to drink and jump in B&M's stupid new pool are too stressful makes me roll my eyes. Go work with the homeless and then tell me you're stressed from too many vacations. I'm serious-- real gratitude makes you feel better. I was bummed about something with my car one day, and I drove past a bunch of people camped under the freeway to stay out of the rain. I suddenly felt a lot better about things. I'm not saying their stress isn't valid. I never said that, and I really don't think anyone else did. Or that they have no right to say that they're stressed. I'm saying that volunteering and helping people who don't have it as nice as them will help.
I need to shut up. The people who get my point get it, and the ones who don't, I will agree to disagree with.


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[wishes]

What I got from Katie saying about all the trips/parties the last five months was that they've always been on the go, rarely getting a resting period. You know how you want a vacation from your vacation? The past five months watching them always doing something wore me out and I just watch! Can't imagine what it's like to live with something always going on for almost 5 months and I think that's where the stress was coming from as well.

[askeptichere]

I think when people say they need a vacation from their vacation, they are taking trips that are jam packed with museums, tours, hiking, etc. C&K don't DO anything on these trips. YouTube conferences are weekends, and I'm sure those a packed full of events, but they are choosing to fly to CA to play in a pool. Choosing to hang out at the beach for 2 weeks. Choosing to watch a college football game in box seats. If they need a vacation from that, they need to get off their asses and go for a walk.


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[Nini12]

I think this is the typical way C&K react to any kind of “criticism”/when people confront them for something.
You don’t get to portray your life as the most perfect thing in the world and then act like “well you don’t know how hard it is”.

IMO they’ve been trying to catch up with everyone. They got the big house in a fancy neighborhood just like Katie’s sisters, they travel to a different state just for the sake of a yt convention or visiting other youtubers (who are just workmates, it isn’t like they travel to visit their family), they plan their kids birthday parties just like Katie’s mum would and the list goes on. It’s like as if they were kids playing house and since they don’t know what to do, they go with that someone else is doing.

I’m getting the vibe that Cullen is over trying to make things work -in every aspect of his life, not just YouTube- and Katie is set on living this life that she planned and convinced herself that she wanted.


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