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Settling (Classifications?!)

Unread post by kingoflove21vher »

I've been thinking about this topic for a while, but didn't know how to broach it. With a comment in LFO3's thread on settling I feel like it's the perfect oppurtunity to try and ask people their views/opinions on the matter.

What do you classify as settling?

What are your views on it?

Do you know anybody who has personally? How has their relationship turned out?

Women (or men) who purposely settle for less than others think they could achieve a relationship with, but they are happy with it - thoughts? (ex. intellectual/social/emotional disparity).

Do you believe if someone truly loves someone, but others think that their partner isn't good enough for them, that they should say so?

Do you believe settling is measured personally or by society (someone knowing they've settled vs others thinking they settled for less)

Fair warning to possible other questions I might ask afterwards. :)
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There is no such thing as a perfect relationship. We all make compromises and "settle" in some way. The question is, which is more important to you, being in a relationship or finding someone you're truly compatible with? You always have the choice to stay single until you meet the right person. The right person is not going to be some super-human soulmate like you want them to be, but you don't have to be in a relationship that makes you unhappy just because you don't want to be single.
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I don't think most people consider themselves settling until after it was over, jmo.

I personally chose to look for someone I can't live without not someone I can live with. If that makes sense.
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It's an interesting question. My husband gives me the shits all the time but boy oh boy has he done some wonderful things too. He is generous, loving, kind, sympathetic, he thinks I am the funniest and smartest person he's ever met and he works in a very high up position in the government. He has provided us with such a wonderful life. He is amazing.

Maybe he settled for me. It don't know. I'm not particularly ambitious. I always wanted to be a mum. I love being a mum. He could have married a professional woman with a career who could match him word for word in business talk, have political debates over the breakfast table. He gets frustrated that I never have my nose out of a novel (or this site lol). But he loves the way I've raised our kids, he loves that he comes home to a cooked dinner every night and a clean house. He doubles over laughing at my sarcastic commentary on life. He doesn't think I'm very good at ironing shirts.

It's an equal relationship. We each give in our own way. It's not perfect but it's pretty damn good. It works.

Settling is when one has to give more than the other. One person has a different view of what they want out of life but they just swallow that out of fear of being alone or just pure laziness. You don't have to be the same but you do have to have the same understanding of where you are going. Ashley is settling because Josh does not want the same things that she does. He doesn't give a shit about romance, fidelity, honesty etc. She does. He just wants to drink beer and watch porn. She wants a romance novel. They are on different playing fields. He's getting what he wants. She settled.
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Does it count as settling when they deserve each other?
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thegooseiscooked wrote:It's an interesting question. My husband gives me the shits all the time but boy oh boy has he done some wonderful things too. He is generous, loving, kind, sympathetic, he thinks I am the funniest and smartest person he's ever met and he works in a very high up position in the government. He has provided us with such a wonderful life. He is amazing.

Maybe he settled for me. It don't know. I'm not particularly ambitious. I always wanted to be a mum. I love being a mum. He could have married a professional woman with a career who could match him word for word in business talk, have political debates over the breakfast table. He gets frustrated that I never have my nose out of a novel (or this site lol). But he loves the way I've raised our kids, he loves that he comes home to a cooked dinner every night and a clean house. He doubles over laughing at my sarcastic commentary on life. He doesn't think I'm very good at ironing shirts.

It's an equal relationship. We each give in our own way. It's not perfect but it's pretty damn good. It works.

Settling is when one has to give more than the other. One person has a different view of what they want out of life but they just swallow that out of fear of being alone or just pure laziness. You don't have to be the same but you do have to have the same understanding of where you are going. Ashley is settling because Josh does not want the same things that she does. He doesn't give a shit about romance, fidelity, honesty etc. She does. He just wants to drink beer and watch porn. She wants a romance novel. They are on different playing fields. He's getting what he wants. She settled.

This is absolutely what I aim for in life.
If anyone should be jealous, Ashley should be seething over your life, Goosey. You're blessed.

As for settling - I agree with specialsnowflakebetty. Settling is one of those things where if they deserve each other, it's not really settling.
My mom always said, 'If two crazy people get together, it saves some other two poor people a hell of a lot of problems."

Ashley is settling because she believes the fact that they have a child together constitutes a marriage. She believes since he cheated, but came back, that he loves her and that it's meant to be.
I don't believe I settled for my fiance because I'm at a place in my life where if we didn't work out - even though I want us to more than you can imagine - I wouldn't stop living. My world would stop for sure, for a little while, but I am completely comfortable with being alone.
He doesn't feel that way, and was upset when we talked about it.
If anything were to happen to him or I, it would be awful and traumatic, but we would carry on.
Maybe it's because we're 20 and 21, but I wouldn't expect him to not find someone else if I were to die or vice versa.

Settling is when you let desperation take over, and when you AREN'T comfortable being alone.
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blackbettybamf wrote:Does it count as settling when they deserve each other?

I think that depends on how much each person values his or own self worth.

If we are going to talk about Ashley specifically, then I don't think she values herself at all. She treats herself horribly, she has lost all self respect, she allows Josh to walk all over her and, in that case, yes she has settled and she does deserve what she gets. If you don't like the path your life is on, change it. As I said to someone the other day, this isn't a rehearsal. This is your one shot at life, don't fuck it up.

Josh has got it all. A nice little cosy domestic scene going on at home with a daughter and a house proud, working wife. Then he does whatever the hell he likes when Ashley isn't around. In fact, his family seems to actively encourage him to deceive her and sneak around. He hasn't settled. He has aimed high. He's having his cake and eating it too.
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My best friend constantly settles for men that have nothing she wants or is looking for. It is so sad. She has been planning on breaking up with her bf for the last year. She thinks more about the guy's feelings though. He had a bad week at work, his birthday is next Tues., his mom is sick...She always worries and thinks of herself last. She looks up to my husband and I as a couple but never takes our advice. She wants what we have but settles constantly then wastes time trying to get out. It brakes my heart that she is so stupid. I can say that, I love her. lol She admits it as well.
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Not wanting to steal the thunder of the thread, but could marrying someone who you don't have full-on feelings for be considered settling? Even if that person is attractive, successful, treats you well, etc.

I always think of this, because I have a (male) friend that I was best friends with during high school and we are still in contact now, we talk probably twice a year but when we do it's like we never stopped. I have never really had feelings for him, but I could honestly see myself marrying him and being happy. He is smart, attractive, successful, funny and we get on like a house on fire. But I have never had those crush-like feelings.

Do you think it's super important to have that lustful butterflies-in-your-tummy connection? Or is compatibility and the ability to co-operate with one another more important?

I think it could work, kind of like an arranged marriage only…better?

Of course this is purely hypothetical lol.
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Shameless wrote:Not wanting to steal the thunder of the thread, but could marrying someone who you don't have full-on feelings for be considered settling? Even if that person is attractive, successful, treats you well, etc.

I always think of this, because I have a (male) friend that I was best friends with during high school and we are still in contact now, we talk probably twice a year but when we do it's like we never stopped. I have never really had feelings for him, but I could honestly see myself marrying him and being happy. He is smart, attractive, successful, funny and we get on like a house on fire. But I have never had those crush-like feelings.

Do you think it's super important to have that lustful butterflies-in-your-tummy connection? Or is compatibility and the ability to co-operate with one another more important?

I think it could work, kind of like an arranged marriage only…better?

Of course this is purely hypothetical lol.
Sounds to me like you haven't realized your true feelings yet. Maybe you are under estimating the chemistry you have with this guy.
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I think butterflies in the tummy are over rated. That doesn't equal love. It means you're nervous. Compatibility is much more important.
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Find your best friend that you feel comfortable with. He should make you laugh and give it to you good. He should be head over heels for you. And you might wonder why but love it. :)
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Yep, spot on Floss. Someone you can't imagine not seeing most days for the rest of your life. Someone who, although he might get grumpy or stroppy or bloody annoying, never ever ever gives you less than you deserve and never makes you feel like crap.

I didn't feel butterflies with my hubby. Ever. It felt more like stepping into a warm bath. I love a warm bath.
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YES. Bubbly and warm. Perfect. Just felt right.
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