OKBaby- Part 3: #SaveLevi
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idea for thread title above sorry
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I just started watching these guys casually if a video seems interesting enough, and I must say, they stress me out. To have two kids before you turn 20 with no steady long term income, and no education is so stressful to me. I don't understand their logic. Do they have jobs or do they just upload videos? From what I've seen they don't seem like the type to work.
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Did anyone catch the shade Oscar threw? When Kyra said Oscar would probably vlog Levi all day and he said, "no, that'd be exposing my children" [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016083 ... 4dffa6.jpg[/img] followed by this side eye! We see you!
Did anyone catch the shade Oscar threw? When Kyra said Oscar would probably vlog Levi all day and he said, "no, that'd be exposing my children" [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016083 ... 4dffa6.jpg[/img] followed by this side eye! We see you!
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Earlier this month I saw that they were being criticized for not "dressing Levi in cute clothes" which I think is pretty ridiculous. There was criticism on their decision to get a 2 bedroom apartment when they're going to have another baby. Levi looking "unhappy"?? The constant ragging on Kyra for looking unkempt. There's tons of little things I think don't need to be said and don't make them bad parents. Sure, some of the things they do (letting him sleep in dirty clothes, putting him to sleep with a bottle & unattended etc.) are questionable and concerning. But honestly how many mothers/fathers can say they raised their child completely by the books? How many parents can truthfully say they have NEVER skipped a shower or two? I know they've exposed themselves knowingly to this type of criticism because their every day is put up for display. But honestly if we were vlogging ourselves like they do, do we honestly think we would not be called horrible/bad parents too?annaclinchwalsh963 wrote:yep oldest is oscars age youngeSt is 5 with 2 in middle.melliakoni wrote:There's so many little things you all think make a parent "bad" not defending O&K at all because there are SOME things I don't agree with that they do either but I mean... How many of you actually have your OWN children? Also I think it's ridiculous how they haven't got furniture yet??? It can't possibly be a financial issue, they're so ridiculous with wanting to make everything "perfect"....
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Genuine question, what do you think is picked on unnecessarily? Because that's what frustrates me about these 2 is that the things they stuff up will really affect Levi.
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I actually see what you mean and agree with what you've put I guess I sort of tune out what I consider unnecessary bitching thanks for response.melliakoni wrote:Earlier this month I saw that they were being criticized for not "dressing Levi in cute clothes" which I think is pretty ridiculous. There was criticism on their decision to get a 2 bedroom apartment when they're going to have another baby. Levi looking "unhappy"?? The constant ragging on Kyra for looking unkempt. There's tons of little things I think don't need to be said and don't make them bad parents. Sure, some of the things they do (letting him sleep in dirty clothes, putting him to sleep with a bottle & unattended etc.) are questionable and concerning. But honestly how many mothers/fathers can say they raised their child completely by the books? How many parents can truthfully say they have NEVER skipped a shower or two? I know they've exposed themselves knowingly to this type of criticism because their every day is put up for display. But honestly if we were vlogging ourselves like they do, do we honestly think we would not be called horrible/bad parents too?annaclinchwalsh963 wrote:yep oldest is oscars age youngeSt is 5 with 2 in middle.melliakoni wrote:There's so many little things you all think make a parent "bad" not defending O&K at all because there are SOME things I don't agree with that they do either but I mean... How many of you actually have your OWN children? Also I think it's ridiculous how they haven't got furniture yet??? It can't possibly be a financial issue, they're so ridiculous with wanting to make everything "perfect"....
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Genuine question, what do you think is picked on unnecessarily? Because that's what frustrates me about these 2 is that the things they stuff up will really affect Levi.
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Isn't it interesting that they put more thought and concern into deciding what type of furniture to get than they do deciding to have children and how to raise them?
As for the comment comparing them to parents who skip baths every now and then for themselves and their children... If only that was the case. If they ever get to that point I'll just consider them perfect. But they are pretty much the opposite of that. While a normal parent will ignore their routine occasionally or sometimes will be too tired to care, O & K only have anything resembling a routine very occasionally. Usually when trying to pretend for the vlog and even then it's nothing impressive.
All the other days when those normal, dedicated parents are following some type of routine, O&K are doing whatever, the least possible amount of work they can manage.
As for the comment comparing them to parents who skip baths every now and then for themselves and their children... If only that was the case. If they ever get to that point I'll just consider them perfect. But they are pretty much the opposite of that. While a normal parent will ignore their routine occasionally or sometimes will be too tired to care, O & K only have anything resembling a routine very occasionally. Usually when trying to pretend for the vlog and even then it's nothing impressive.
All the other days when those normal, dedicated parents are following some type of routine, O&K are doing whatever, the least possible amount of work they can manage.
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I'm sorry if you feel that way, especially that you are a newly registered user here, but if you check on the previous threads, many of us call her Greaseballladybrookie wrote:I think I'm probably about to start a shit storm bc idk how to word this nicely buuuuuuuuut here we go... Can you please consider not calling KYRA "greaseball" in every single one of your posts?? I'm sure others will disagree with me and that's fine, but I can't take anything you say seriously bc calling her "greaseball" multiple times each post makes you seem very immature.beanboozled wrote: "I was expecting to receive an engagement ring, not a dead dragonfly"
Ughhhhh again with those proposal-whining, Greaseball! I thought marriage isnt that important to you right now? (you said it on one of the COTD previously) LOL, such lie, much wow
YMTD: You dont even wash your face, we dont expect that youre brushing your teeth with those inflamed gums, and you also dont change your clothes all day
Greaseball: *puts close-up montages on her washing her face, brushing her teeth, and changing clothes**
My question is, if we didnt give a comment about that, will you even do those things at all? hmmm I dont think so guuuuuuuuuuurl
Please understand that I'm not trying to hurt your feelings or anything, I just think you're probably a very smart and intellectual girl who can contribute more to the conversation than just "greaseball greaseball greaseball."
Anyway, I'm not going to fight with you about this, I'm just asking you to consider it.
Once again, sorry but I for one will not stop calling that Greaseball, Greaseball. Simply because she is greasy looking like 98% of the time. And I'm not here to please you with my posts I think I am entitled to voice out my own thoughts the way you voiced out yours, but thanks for taking the time to post though!
Just skip(skip reading) my posts everytime you see my username so that you wont have to deal with all the Greaseball
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Dunno if this has been said but in her relaunch video she said the pregnancy was planned. Kill me now
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O and K, here's a list of all the changes you need to make!
1. give your baby a bath, pjs, book and bed routine at the same time every single day.
2. practise the empty crib safety rule.
3. try a paci or other self soothing method instead of putting him to bed with the bottle.
4. in general, don't put him down with a bottle everytime he's fussy or "exhausted".
5. wash yourselves and wear new outfits atleast every other day.
6. Buy some new clothes!!!
7. furnish your home sometime this side of christmas, if you find the lounge so hard to decorate atleast do the nursery, how hard is it to pick furnishings for a baby (soon to be TWO babies)!?
8. Buy your baby more age appropriate learning toys and encourage play with them instead of the trash.
9. Remember the stroller and other baby essentials, even if it means the drone gets left at home.
10. I get it makes everything ten times slower, but practise walking instead of carrying him everywhere.
11. Feel free to suddenly cut off the video because you've had to put the camera down to help your baby...
12. ....because you need to remember you're parents before vloggers!
13. but as vlogging is your job, decide an upload time, make it known and stick to it. It wouldn't be okay to turn up at 11am to your 9-5, so why is it acceptable to upload hours later than expected because you slept in? Find structure in your work from home life.
14. Join baby classes for his good and your own, join pregnancy classes as well. Not only will it help L develop and socialise but meeting other people will probably be the best thing you ever do! if you find the teen thing such a hurdle why not introduce yourself as a 23 year old or something?
15. try and wean yourselves off nicknames for example start by aiming to call him Levi 50% of the time etc.
Anyone got any other tips for them?
1. give your baby a bath, pjs, book and bed routine at the same time every single day.
2. practise the empty crib safety rule.
3. try a paci or other self soothing method instead of putting him to bed with the bottle.
4. in general, don't put him down with a bottle everytime he's fussy or "exhausted".
5. wash yourselves and wear new outfits atleast every other day.
6. Buy some new clothes!!!
7. furnish your home sometime this side of christmas, if you find the lounge so hard to decorate atleast do the nursery, how hard is it to pick furnishings for a baby (soon to be TWO babies)!?
8. Buy your baby more age appropriate learning toys and encourage play with them instead of the trash.
9. Remember the stroller and other baby essentials, even if it means the drone gets left at home.
10. I get it makes everything ten times slower, but practise walking instead of carrying him everywhere.
11. Feel free to suddenly cut off the video because you've had to put the camera down to help your baby...
12. ....because you need to remember you're parents before vloggers!
13. but as vlogging is your job, decide an upload time, make it known and stick to it. It wouldn't be okay to turn up at 11am to your 9-5, so why is it acceptable to upload hours later than expected because you slept in? Find structure in your work from home life.
14. Join baby classes for his good and your own, join pregnancy classes as well. Not only will it help L develop and socialise but meeting other people will probably be the best thing you ever do! if you find the teen thing such a hurdle why not introduce yourself as a 23 year old or something?
15. try and wean yourselves off nicknames for example start by aiming to call him Levi 50% of the time etc.
Anyone got any other tips for them?
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Yesssss!! Everything you said! I just want to go in there and decorate it myself! Why not get things in beige/browns which flows better with the existing shades of the apartment and shows up baby dirt less that stark white and black, get a persian rug or something else patterned and coloured along with cushions and throw blankets in colours/patterns and all the inevitable stains will show up way less. Get some plants, some soft lighting, some decor on the walls. Life is not black and white, literally nothing that babies and children need is black and white, so don't even attempt such a regimented "theme"!! It's EASY!!!puzzledbyit28 wrote:Shades of black and white also sounds really dull if she doesn't add pops of color, but I doubt Kyra knows how to do that. The gray entertainment center reminds me of the color of their old furniture. I thought they wanted a different look.melliakoni wrote: I agree with the "shades" of black and white thing. The only character that apartment has going for it comes from the kitchen and I think they should extend the color palette going on there into their living room so everything flows. That gray entertainment center looks so tacky and dull in their apartment
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And the idea of a "theme" just makes me shudder for some reason. Black and white isn't a theme, it's a color scheme. And you don't need to call something a "theme" to decorate well. In fact, sticking to a straight theme can often just come out looking tacky and boring. Plus, why go for anything white with one (soon to be two) babies? White + little kids is a disaster.
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Ahhhhh don't remind me!! It's unfathomable to me to plan a second pregnancy at 19 when your first is only 4-6 months. I actually cannot handle it. I'm 25 with an 18 month old and I'm due with my second a week after Kyra is due. We're a bit older, but even in our early 20s it didn't seem like a smart decision for us or our child to plan a second pregnancy with our first being SO little. We waited until he was over a year. To each their own, I guess.CypKitty wrote:Dunno if this has been said but in her relaunch video she said the pregnancy was planned. Kill me now
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Kyra and Oscar are the only full time youtubers that I know of who went straight from high school to YouTube. No education, no work experience, literally nothing. Many other full time youtubers got an education, have work experience and have SOMETHING they could do should YouTube magically disappear. It seems incredibly stupid to me for them to live that way with a child and soon to be two children. Poor choices.
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it's funny bc exposing isnt right. I think he meant exploiting. -_- smhpikapikachu wrote:#OKPleaseProposeToMe
Did anyone catch the shade Oscar threw? When Kyra said Oscar would probably vlog Levi all day and he said, "no, that'd be exposing my children" followed by this side eye! We see you!
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I saw a girl I the comments the other day ask tips about starting her YouTube channel and asking for followers. Anyone want to guess their stats.
18-19, 14 weeks pregnant, high schoolers, not married, and even stated "making a YouTube similar to yours.
I'm going to put money on the table right now that I'm 5 years there's going to be articles all over the place about this trend. And with OK getting bigger, reading the comment threads, seeing the cult following on Twitter, and knowing OK's demographics....they're one big ass example for so many developing teens out there.
And THAT'S the problem I have with them. They're choosing to be rolemodles for a demographic that's not done growing up, developing, and/or parts of their brain/reasoning skills haven't fully developed.
They're showing all of these 11-16 year olds that it's completely reasonable to get pregnant young and drop out of school. No one here can deny this fact. The young mind isn't equipped with reasoning skills until much later in life. They're easily impacted by their peers. If you don't have a stellar family life with a strong parental front, it's even worse.
Not only are they an example to over so many on teen pregnancy (Kyra literally has stated how easy it is and they have little care about getting knocked up and dropping out). But they're an example to allllllll of these girls as to how to mother babies.
Look in the comments for that example. Bug buddy's not even out of high school think they're the best parents ever. They're defend everything. Hell, they'll even give advice. Sure it's the most stupid and obviously immature advice, but it's advice!
That's the problem I have with them. They KNOW their audience. They give zero shits about being good roll models. They may be better off but what about the girls that think about getting knocked up and ruin their lives? Because if anyone doesn't think they're not influencing girls.....you're kidding yourself.
18-19, 14 weeks pregnant, high schoolers, not married, and even stated "making a YouTube similar to yours.
I'm going to put money on the table right now that I'm 5 years there's going to be articles all over the place about this trend. And with OK getting bigger, reading the comment threads, seeing the cult following on Twitter, and knowing OK's demographics....they're one big ass example for so many developing teens out there.
And THAT'S the problem I have with them. They're choosing to be rolemodles for a demographic that's not done growing up, developing, and/or parts of their brain/reasoning skills haven't fully developed.
They're showing all of these 11-16 year olds that it's completely reasonable to get pregnant young and drop out of school. No one here can deny this fact. The young mind isn't equipped with reasoning skills until much later in life. They're easily impacted by their peers. If you don't have a stellar family life with a strong parental front, it's even worse.
Not only are they an example to over so many on teen pregnancy (Kyra literally has stated how easy it is and they have little care about getting knocked up and dropping out). But they're an example to allllllll of these girls as to how to mother babies.
Look in the comments for that example. Bug buddy's not even out of high school think they're the best parents ever. They're defend everything. Hell, they'll even give advice. Sure it's the most stupid and obviously immature advice, but it's advice!
That's the problem I have with them. They KNOW their audience. They give zero shits about being good roll models. They may be better off but what about the girls that think about getting knocked up and ruin their lives? Because if anyone doesn't think they're not influencing girls.....you're kidding yourself.
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Amen!!!!! Beautifully said!!! Terrible role models. It's incredibly alarming to think of the influence they could be having on young girls. Kyra has even admitted its "easy" being a mom. I remember they got one Comment of the Day a while back. I believe it was a teenager saying she wanted a baby. O and K didn't encourage her to wait or finish her education. They basically said "if you feel ready, go ahead!" It's really disturbing. If I had a teenage daughter I would never ever let her watch them. Otherwise she would want to quite school, have a bunch of kids before she's 22 and not even have a physical license. They blow my mind and I literally cannot get over that they're pregnant again while Levi is only 10 months!! It's incredibly concerning and irresponsible.Neonbatsintrees wrote:I saw a girl I the comments the other day ask tips about starting her YouTube channel and asking for followers. Anyone want to guess their stats.
18-19, 14 weeks pregnant, high schoolers, not married, and even stated "making a YouTube similar to yours.
I'm going to put money on the table right now that I'm 5 years there's going to be articles all over the place about this trend. And with OK getting bigger, reading the comment threads, seeing the cult following on Twitter, and knowing OK's demographics....they're one big ass example for so many developing teens out there.
And THAT'S the problem I have with them. They're choosing to be rolemodles for a demographic that's not done growing up, developing, and/or parts of their brain/reasoning skills haven't fully developed.
They're showing all of these 11-16 year olds that it's completely reasonable to get pregnant young and drop out of school. No one here can deny this fact. The young mind isn't equipped with reasoning skills until much later in life. They're easily impacted by their peers. If you don't have a stellar family life with a strong parental front, it's even worse.
Not only are they an example to over so many on teen pregnancy (Kyra literally has stated how easy it is and they have little care about getting knocked up and dropping out). But they're an example to allllllll of these girls as to how to mother babies.
Look in the comments for that example. Bug buddy's not even out of high school think they're the best parents ever. They're defend everything. Hell, they'll even give advice. Sure it's the most stupid and obviously immature advice, but it's advice!
That's the problem I have with them. They KNOW their audience. They give zero shits about being good roll models. They may be better off but what about the girls that think about getting knocked up and ruin their lives? Because if anyone doesn't think they're not influencing girls.....you're kidding yourself.
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They're not even just pregnant, they're like 4 months pregnant. Which means he was what 6 months old? After an emergency c-section. Im guilty of having kids young all together (2.5-3 years between) and it FUCKS UP YOUR BODY. Lets not even get into the emotional side of things either.
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I completely agree. That's my problem with most teen mom youtubers. I like watching Jessfam vlogs but even she annoys me on that. It's one thing to say "we made it work, because we had to" but lets not encourage the younger generation. Even Teen mom (16 and pregnant) at least encouraged safe sex. O and K are to me some of the worst with encouraging their viewers. Jess makes it look fun but she at least has admitted that times are hard and at least finished high school (which is a sad scale to be measured on). O and K make it sound like a cake walk. There is no challenging thing to parenthood? Even ask actual adults and they will say there are challenges. I could go on and on but their complete lack of maturity. To be honest though it's what I expect of many teenagers who haven't matured yet. not from teens who became parents young. It's almost like parenthood has barely changed them, except maybe they don't party anymore.Neonbatsintrees wrote:I saw a girl I the comments the other day ask tips about starting her YouTube channel and asking for followers. Anyone want to guess their stats.
18-19, 14 weeks pregnant, high schoolers, not married, and even stated "making a YouTube similar to yours.
I'm going to put money on the table right now that I'm 5 years there's going to be articles all over the place about this trend. And with OK getting bigger, reading the comment threads, seeing the cult following on Twitter, and knowing OK's demographics....they're one big ass example for so many developing teens out there.
And THAT'S the problem I have with them. They're choosing to be rolemodles for a demographic that's not done growing up, developing, and/or parts of their brain/reasoning skills haven't fully developed.
They're showing all of these 11-16 year olds that it's completely reasonable to get pregnant young and drop out of school. No one here can deny this fact. The young mind isn't equipped with reasoning skills until much later in life. They're easily impacted by their peers. If you don't have a stellar family life with a strong parental front, it's even worse.
Not only are they an example to over so many on teen pregnancy (Kyra literally has stated how easy it is and they have little care about getting knocked up and dropping out). But they're an example to allllllll of these girls as to how to mother babies.
Look in the comments for that example. Bug buddy's not even out of high school think they're the best parents ever. They're defend everything. Hell, they'll even give advice. Sure it's the most stupid and obviously immature advice, but it's advice!
That's the problem I have with them. They KNOW their audience. They give zero shits about being good roll models. They may be better off but what about the girls that think about getting knocked up and ruin their lives? Because if anyone doesn't think they're not influencing girls.....you're kidding yourself.
My biggest issues outside of their lack of care of Levi
Making not graduating sound like no big deal
Making parenthood sound like a joke and not one of the hardest jobs anyone (at any age) has faced
Making parenthood look like playing house
It may seem small to others but them not having a license is extremely irritating. A drivers license isn't just used for driving but it's used for Identification purposes which can be important especially with a child. It shows their complete lack of motivation and shows just how young they really are.
With 2 children I hope they really start acting like adults.
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Why must Oscar keep calling the library "li-berry".
And I can't believe they used Levi's SHIRT to clean up vomit from the carpet
And I can't believe they used Levi's SHIRT to clean up vomit from the carpet