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Women "Serving" Men

Postby MamaJoAnna » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:10 pm

From the JesssFam/GabeandJesss thread.

Take the discussion here. Enjoy.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby smom12 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:30 pm

Lol this is great because I was gonna ask to make a separate thread.

Carry on.


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby fossilfinger » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:43 pm

I don't know if I want to read the comments to be validated by the awesome feminists here or to get angry because of what one person on the internet says about men being superior to women. :misch:
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby smom12 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:50 pm

Honestly I find the whole think laughable. He is superior why? Because he doesn't have a uterus? I'm just really trying to understand from her point of view.


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby Jeybee27 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:09 pm

I'm a 1950s wife but with a job lol I love cleaning after my husband and my kids, I love cooking, baking, everything. BUT if I work late, my husband will gladly cook and clean. My kids know to pick up their toys when asked. I would never in a million years imagine saying that anyone is superior to me. Talk about low self esteem and daddy issues...
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby ArielLipstick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:16 pm

I don't understand how any woman can earnestly say that her husband/boyfriend is superior to her and that it's her her duty to serve him, and then in the next breath say this attitude won't affect her children. That is pretty damn delusional.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby missy-1010 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:34 pm

In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby Lucyall » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:06 pm

missy-1010 wrote:In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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I'm not mad. I'm honestly just mystified and intrigued by your point of view. I 100% don't agree with your view but I'm interested in WHY you think that you are inferior to someone.

Do you view your boyfriend as superior to other people? Is he superior to your mom?


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby ArielLipstick » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:08 pm

Yeah, sure. Let's go with it being jealousy. :roll:

Like did you honestly expect zero backlash when you described your husband as superior and that it's your duty to serve him? You really going to act all surprised that people got mad?
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby HelloSweetie » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:09 pm

It's my duty to serve my cat.

My cat is superior.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby Crystal-heart81 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:31 pm

The fact you think your man is superior to you is actually making me sad more than anything else. I do the majority of the house work and child rearing because I only work part time and my husband works full time plus is a fire fighter. However he is not a more superior human to me just because he works more. We complement each other and are a team.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby D33f » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:00 am

missy-1010 wrote:In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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Why do you need to equate that to superiority/inferiority? Can't you have different roles to play in the relationship? Very curious as to why you feel the need to put him on a pedestal while denigrating your own worth, regardless if you're happy about it or not.


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby Casbel » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:27 am

When I'm married with kids I'd love to be a 1950s housewife who does all the cooking and cleaning because that's what I LIKE doing, I take pride in it.
My fiancé appreciates everything I do and helps out when he can (at the moment he's working and studying full time so I try not to let him do too much)
Never have I once thought that he was my superior...that's just messed up.
Love is a partnership...you're both equal but you both excel in different areas (which is what makes your relationship work)

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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby smom12 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:05 am

I am absolutely gobsmacked that someone thinks like this.

Mad? Honey no. And I'm not a pig either. My house is spotless. I'm getting married in Cancun, my kids are well educated and happy.

Just because he works more than you he is superior? You're superior than him only when you take care of the house?

Honestly I can't imagine thinking and living that one partner is superior than the other. Relationships are 50/50. No one is superior or inferior.

How old are you?


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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby dazzled » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:16 am

Honestly, I don't give a fuck if anyone thinks it's still the 1950s and their boyfriend is superior to them. Some people are just crackers and can't be helped.

I do have an issue with a woman teaching their daughters that their boyfriends will be superior—or their sons that their girlfriends will be inferior. So... fuck you for actively contributing to sexism and raising kids with a horrible mindset. I hope they'll be able to form a different opinion thanks to education and social media. :love2:
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby mrsbarnaby » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:32 am

Did she just say we are all jealous? [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]

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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby pianogossiper » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:31 am

My boyfriend and I live together with no kids (much like OP I'm sure) and he works more hours than me and takes care of most of the bills because he makes more money. That doesn't mean he's superior to me. I'm at university and living off a student loan and bursary, so whatever money I have goes straight onto food and educational supplies. This setup obviously won't last forever and eventually we will both be making money and splitting things 50/50. I'd hate to think someone thought they were superior to me because they made a bit more money, because they could work and I couldn't. Isn't stepping in and helping people and coexisting what a relationship is all about?


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Re: Women

Postby Yue195 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:44 am

missy-1010 wrote:In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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This is my take on it-

He's superior in a workforce/moneymaking sense, your superior in the homemaking/family(?) sense. That seems like an okay balance to me- maybe don't use the word superior to describe your relationship/partner in the future though.

I get where your coming from, he does work a lot to keep you both happy and comfortable, so you take care of the house and him. But I will add I do hope he chips in to help you with the house work. And with kids ( you did say this in a post so gold star for you) you do teach them that this is how your relationship works and you're happy in it and to follow what they are happy with.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby smom12 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:00 am

Yue195 wrote:
missy-1010 wrote:In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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This is my take on it-

He's superior in a workforce/moneymaking sense, your superior in the homemaking/family(?) sense. That seems like an okay balance to me- maybe don't use the word superior to describe your relationship/partner in the future though.

I get where your coming from, he does work a lot to keep you both happy and comfortable, so you take care of the house and him. But I will add I do hope he chips in to help you with the house work. And with kids ( you did say this in a post so gold star for you) you do teach them that this is how your relationship works and you're happy in it and to follow what they are happy with.


I'm just hating the terms she uses.
Serve.
Superior.
My duty.



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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby mocalyn » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:57 am

My husband works a lot, and supports our family financially, I stay home with the kids, take care of the house and make sure he has a nice meal waiting for him when he gets home.
But I do not "serve" my family. I enjoy taking care of them, it's a job I'm good at, it's what we've agreed is the best for us!
But I would never say he is superior to me... and he would never either. We both have very different skills and appreciate each other for what we can bring to the family.

Saying your bf is superior to you, is not a healthy dynamic! No one is saying it's bad to do things for him, if that works for the two of you awesome, I get it. But don't use words like serve , superior and duty. :/

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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby missy-1010 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:57 am

smom12 wrote:
Yue195 wrote:
missy-1010 wrote:In MY relationship, my boyfriend is superior to me. End of story. He works harder, works more, works longer.
No not all men are superior to women, but in my case, yes he is.
I am not abused, I am happy, he is happy. He respects and appreciates me.
When it comes to cleaning and cooking, I'm superior to him. It's about different aspects.
I wonder if you ladies are pigs like Jess, and you're mad I'm clean, and take care of an appreciate my man? Is that it? I want to know why you're all so mad.


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This is my take on it-

He's superior in a workforce/moneymaking sense, your superior in the homemaking/family(?) sense. That seems like an okay balance to me- maybe don't use the word superior to describe your relationship/partner in the future though.

I get where your coming from, he does work a lot to keep you both happy and comfortable, so you take care of the house and him. But I will add I do hope he chips in to help you with the house work. And with kids ( you did say this in a post so gold star for you) you do teach them that this is how your relationship works and you're happy in it and to follow what they are happy with.


I'm just hating the terms she uses.
Serve.
Superior.
My duty.



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Maybe I didn't use the correct terms? I guess if you want to word it like this, we are equal? I don't know what to tell you ladies.
I love to serve my man, and I do believe it is MY duty. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's. I'm fine with other people doing whatever they want. It's their life, not mine. Just as this is my life, no one else's.
And when I do have children, I sure as hell will teach them both sides. My mom taught me to be lazy, and never do anything for a man, and look how I turned out? Hmm....


Would if be different if I was gay and thought this way? If it was two girls or two men instead of a man and a woman?


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Re: Women

Postby whattheactual » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:03 am

[/quote]

This is my take on it-

He's superior in a workforce/moneymaking sense, your superior in the homemaking/family(?) sense. That seems like an okay balance to me- maybe don't use the word superior to describe your relationship/partner in the future though.

I get where your coming from, he does work a lot to keep you both happy and comfortable, so you take care of the house and him. But I will add I do hope he chips in to help you with the house work. And with kids ( you did say this in a post so gold star for you) you do teach them that this is how your relationship works and you're happy in it and to follow what they are happy with.[/quote]

I'm just hating the terms she uses.
Serve.
Superior.
My duty.



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Maybe I didn't use the correct terms? I guess if you want to word it like this, we are equal? I don't know what to tell you ladies.
I love to serve my man, and I do believe it is MY duty. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's. I'm fine with other people doing whatever they want. It's their life, not mine. Just as this is my life, no one else's.
And when I do have children, I sure as hell will teach them both sides. My mom taught me to be lazy, and never do anything for a man, and look how I turned out? Hmm....


Would if be different if I was gay and thought this way? If it was two girls or two men instead of a man and a woman?


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In a relationship no man or women should feel as though their partner is superior to them and that it is their duty to serve them. It doesn't matter if its heterosexual or homosexual. It's just wrong.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby HelloSweetie » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:09 am

missy-1010 wrote:
Maybe I didn't use the correct terms? I guess if you want to word it like this, we are equal? I don't know what to tell you ladies.
I love to serve my man, and I do believe it is MY duty. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's. I'm fine with other people doing whatever they want. It's their life, not mine. Just as this is my life, no one else's.
And when I do have children, I sure as hell will teach them both sides. My mom taught me to be lazy, and never do anything for a man, and look how I turned out? Hmm....


Would if be different if I was gay and thought this way? If it was two girls or two men instead of a man and a woman?


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No it wouldn't be different if you were gay. Is English your first language? I mean no disrespect, but I'm asking because I don't think you understand what it is that people are disagreeing with. A relationship should be an equal partnership. One person, regardless of gender, shouldn't have more value or power than the other one.

I get what you're trying to say, and I really think you'll see what everyone else is saying once you have children. When my husband and I were first married, I used to get up with him in the morning, make his lunch and send him off to work. I was such a good wife. Know what changed that? Kids happened. My job is now the kids. Husband would much rather go to work and earn that money, than stay home and chase our critters. We are equal. Both of us have strengths and weaknesses, but my husband is not superior, just as I wouldn't say I was the superior parent should we split.

I think if you had subbed "responsibility" for "duty" and "take care of" for "serve" then a lot of this debate would have never started.
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Re: Women "Serving" Men

Postby SweetAsANutMate » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:54 am

missy-1010 wrote: Maybe I didn't use the correct terms? I guess if you want to word it like this, we are equal? I don't know what to tell you ladies.
I love to serve my man, and I do believe it is MY duty. That doesn't mean it's anyone else's. I'm fine with other people doing whatever they want. It's their life, not mine. Just as this is my life, no one else's.
And when I do have children, I sure as hell will teach them both sides. My mom taught me to be lazy, and never do anything for a man, and look how I turned out? Hmm....


Would if be different if I was gay and thought this way? If it was two girls or two men instead of a man and a woman?


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So your mother 'taught you to be lazy' and 'taught you to never do anything for a man'? Could you enlighten us in her exact teachings?

And you BS about it being equal. This is not a relationship based on equality.
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