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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Psych17 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:04 pm

Long time lurker. Kept coming back because the dementia years title was so funny! Where to start?!?! What in the HELL has happened to this family?!?! When I used to watch they all woke up at 5:30am had scripture played their instruments did all their chores and were not allowed phones!! I have no words for the Chad situation so I will leave that.

As a psychiatrist I am sincerely worried for Shari. As obnoxious as she is, her compulsive personality and current eating/exercise habits are a disastrous combination. She’ll be off to camp next. I don’t want to speculate on why Chad is there but I think there are clear signs.

I wanted to agree with the poster who questioned why Eve is infantalized. I hate how they always call her “Evieeeee” and encourage her pouting before saying she needs to stop pouting. It’s funny because when they did a Q&A video, so many assumptions came in that there was “something wrong” with every child in except her. I thought there was something wrong with her! Again, clear signs. She does not seem to be up to par with a 6-year-old. Poor Julie is stuck so much in the middle and how true that she was up cleaning before dawn at “Evie’s” age.

How in the world can you expect a 6-year-old to brush his or her own teeth, pack lunch, get ready, and admonish them for having NINE cavities?!

Someone please tell me what the hell Ruby does all day long. It certainly doesn’t involve a calendar or a planner.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Psych17 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:17 pm

Sorry for potential double post but I’m absolutely sick over what they did to Nali. You don’t throw someone away because they are old and you have a trip to go on. I hate that Shari refers to her siblings as “the kids.” I’m not understanding when she does any homework lifting for an hour, volleyball for 2, icing and heating her legs for THREE HOURS, stretching for one, getting up at 5:30am, packing 8 pairs of shoes for the day...like where are the hours?? I love Ruby today “No one is feeding them or taking care of them [the Anasazi kids]. Well, not too different than home for poor Chad!!

And finally, I’ve never seen anyone look less like a natural parent than Ruby with her sister’s? Kids. Holding the little girl so awkwardly on her lap not able to figure out how to get her to eat?! I thought I had no mothering instincts but did she not have six children?!
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Kattiness Everdeen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:30 pm

ba1006 wrote:
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Ruby mentioned someone gifts their children for their 14 birthday a trip to the ANASAZI camp. REALLY???
How about when she asked Russell if he would like to go when he's older? He said he would and that it sounds like it would be fun. Oh boy.
The woman who gives the Anasazi birthday gifts is actually an employee of Anasazi. I can't imagine anyone else would ever "gift" every child with a trip to a residential treatment program. I love how Ruby is suddenly trying to spin it like it's a fun summer camp or vacation, and poor Russell doesn't know any different.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Kattiness Everdeen » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:46 pm

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Ugh, today's vlog just irritates me. Hiking like/for Chad - yeah, right! I'm sure they did a hike just as long as he does, in the same heat, carrying everything he has to, etc. :roll: At the restaurant, Ruby also had a red mug, hope she didn't have what the kids had - pretty sure it would contain sugar. I doubt she considers having some sugar as dessert though. Then the hoverboard part, ohmigosh, really? Let's just laugh when a six year doesn't know how to work the hoverboard (that's for the family), almost crashes into the grapes, then falls off and breaks it. That's just hilarious. *sarcasm* :x The woman just doesn't have a clue, does she?
I hate people who have Ruby's mentality. Sort of like when one encounter's someone dying of an inoperable brain tumor and they say "I know how you feel, I get headaches". Skipping breakfast and "dessert" (sometimes) is not going to give her a taste of what Chad is going though. I'd have way more respect for her if she fully embraced her privileged lifestyle and dropped the "suffering for my child" act. I wonder if they give the parents tents and proper food when they "walk the trail" or if they have to lay on the dirt next to their kid going hungry because they can't start a fire. I hope its the latter so Ruby can know how awful she truly is.

She filmed her kids stuffing their faces with marshmallows and bringing their breakfast dishes to the sink....and saw them carrying their ginormous water bottles on the trail. Why did she continue to try and convince us that nobody ate breakfast or brought water, "for Chad"? Or why didn't she edit it out the footage when everyone wondered into frame proving her wrong?
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by LilaRose » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:51 pm

Kattiness Everdeen wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:07 am
Vincere wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:58 am
Chad's instagram is no longer up. His YT account is still there.
Does this reinforce the theory that he did not want to perform for Ruby anymore?
Getting rid of the Instagram might just be Ruby's half-a$$ed way of following the advice of disconnecting him from SM. The YT videos still earn money just sitting there. Ruby said he could be there indefinitely; gotta pay that 30k+ bill somehow.

"...Parents receive guidance from Heaven that teachers, coaches, viewers, friends and leaders don’t. Doing the best thing for your child sometimes means taking a stomach punch by everyone around you....." - Ruby

I don't know how I missed this post on Ruby's Instagram. She implies that everyone important in Chad's life besides his parents strongly opposed the the Anasazi decision, including all his teachers/coaches at the Mormon school that "kicked him out" and church leaders. The fact that Anasazi is a program founded and run by Mormons (even though it isn't a "Mormon organization"), I wouldn't think that they opposed the concept, just the decision made for Chad. Was there something so terrible happening at home that they couldn't reveal to anyone outside of their family? Or did they really send him there for no good reason?
I actually really think they send him there for no good reason. I don't think he is gay, I don't think he is violent and I really don't think he has a mental illness. Yes he cheated on a test at school, but how many students do that/try to do that? Not good, but really nothing out of the ordinary. When they talk about what they expect from Anasazi, they usually say for Chad to become responsible and grow up. But he's only 14 years old for heaven's sake.
If I had to take a guess why they send him there it would be that they wanted him to apologize to the school and he refused to do that (he talked about that in a vlog). Ruby and Kevin might have seen that as being immature and not making a grown-up decision about his life/future. Ruby is in love with that school and Chad refusing to take the chance to get back in destroyed Ruby's dream and perfect picture of all her godly children in this wonderful mormon school, looking oh so cute in their school uniforms.

On another note: Kevin is still wearing his Anasazi necklase, Ruby isn't. She is trying to not eat dessert (but drinks sweet drinks anyway....) but Chad and the program are obviously not worth it to destroy her look/outfits with a big necklace-thing.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Milelu89 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:24 am

According to Kevin’s Instagram post, Chad caught a squirrel and ate it. I always thought squirrels were considered rodents but I don’t know. Also, I am vegetarian so I would never eat one lol


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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Kattiness Everdeen » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:33 pm

Psych17 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:04 pm
Long time lurker. Kept coming back because the dementia years title was so funny! Where to start?!?! What in the HELL has happened to this family?!?! When I used to watch they all woke up at 5:30am had scripture played their instruments did all their chores and were not allowed phones!! I have no words for the Chad situation so I will leave that.

As a psychiatrist I am sincerely worried for Shari. As obnoxious as she is, her compulsive personality and current eating/exercise habits are a disastrous combination. She’ll be off to camp next. I don’t want to speculate on why Chad is there but I think there are clear signs.

I wanted to agree with the poster who questioned why Eve is infantalized. I hate how they always call her “Evieeeee” and encourage her pouting before saying she needs to stop pouting. It’s funny because when they did a Q&A video, so many assumptions came in that there was “something wrong” with every child in except her. I thought there was something wrong with her! Again, clear signs. She does not seem to be up to par with a 6-year-old. Poor Julie is stuck so much in the middle and how true that she was up cleaning before dawn at “Evie’s” age.

How in the world can you expect a 6-year-old to brush his or her own teeth, pack lunch, get ready, and admonish them for having NINE cavities?!

Someone please tell me what the hell Ruby does all day long. It certainly doesn’t involve a calendar or a planner.
Any chance you can share the "clear signs" Chad is displaying without any diagnosing going on? Actually what you notice with all the kids would be really interesting.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by kates_crush » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:33 pm

in the school morning routine shari is seen counting how many grapes she is putting in her bag...
she also only allows herself to have rice, chicken, or turkey for meals, nothing else.
girl is in dangerous territory, you DO NOT have to be restrictive when you are an athlete, that is bull.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by iiarch » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Shari needs help. Counting calories and restricting what you eat is not healthy, and when you do it so often that it becomes routine and progresses to the point of counting how many grapes/etc. you allow yourself to eat, it can be extremely unhealthy. Im not saying that Shari should go back to eating crap like Ruby does, I think it's great that she's eating healthy. It's the restriction I have a problem with. She's 16 and still growing so there should be no reason to restrict how much food she eats. Ruby needs to intervene or something before it becomes an issue to the point where she's not eating enough.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by sadie51 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:28 pm

iiarch wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:03 pm
Shari needs help. Counting calories and restricting what you eat is not healthy, and when you do it so often that it becomes routine and progresses to the point of counting how many grapes/etc. you allow yourself to eat, it can be extremely unhealthy. Im not saying that Shari should go back to eating crap like Ruby does, I think it's great that she's eating healthy. It's the restriction I have a problem with. She's 16 and still growing so there should be no reason to restrict how much food she eats. Ruby needs to intervene or something before it becomes an issue to the point where she's not eating enough.
In Shari's routine video, she talks about measuring peanut butter so she doesn't "overeat" and "blow her whole day." It's easy to not "overeat" and just eyeball how much pb you're using on toast without actually measuring it. It's not safe and sad to think that she's putting so much energy into her food and eating habits at this age.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Psych17 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:58 pm

Kattiness Everdeen wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:33 pm
Psych17 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:04 pm
Long time lurker. Kept coming back because the dementia years title was so funny! Where to start?!?! What in the HELL has happened to this family?!?! When I used to watch they all woke up at 5:30am had scripture played their instruments did all their chores and were not allowed phones!! I have no words for the Chad situation so I will leave that.

As a psychiatrist I am sincerely worried for Shari. As obnoxious as she is, her compulsive personality and current eating/exercise habits are a disastrous combination. She’ll be off to camp next. I don’t want to speculate on why Chad is there but I think there are clear signs.

I wanted to agree with the poster who questioned why Eve is infantalized. I hate how they always call her “Evieeeee” and encourage her pouting before saying she needs to stop pouting. It’s funny because when they did a Q&A video, so many assumptions came in that there was “something wrong” with every child in except her. I thought there was something wrong with her! Again, clear signs. She does not seem to be up to par with a 6-year-old. Poor Julie is stuck so much in the middle and how true that she was up cleaning before dawn at “Evie’s” age.

How in the world can you expect a 6-year-old to brush his or her own teeth, pack lunch, get ready, and admonish them for having NINE cavities?!

Someone please tell me what the hell Ruby does all day long. It certainly doesn’t involve a calendar or a planner.
Any chance you can share the "clear signs" Chad is displaying without any diagnosing going on? Actually what you notice with all the kids would be really interesting.
Without getting into specifics and the fact that we don’t diagnose personality disorders in children, I feel like Chad is never really happy, is starved for attention, and seems withdrawn at times. We all know about his troubles with school. Shari is also starved for attention. Her obsessive personality gives her a one-track mind which can be healthy or unhealthy depending on what it is focused on, but I really think she is headed for trouble with her food restrictions and exercise regimen. The control issues at 16 are deep. Eve doesn’t seem to be able to hold attention/focus or be at the level expected of a 6-year-old. Her affect and emotions are strange at times. All of them are pretty withdrawn from what we see for being “kids.” Abby and Julie seem to be the most normal to me. I think Russel just has a lot of energy.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Kattiness Everdeen » Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:37 pm

Coming from the girl who lied about a hit and run, can't stay in the lines on the highway because she can't see them, wears airpods while driving, leaves the engine running while the car is in the garage, and intentionally stops short when she thinks the person behind her is too close.....
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Post by Lolislol26 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:28 pm

Kattiness Everdeen wrote:Coming from the girl who lied about a hit and run, can't stay in the lines on the highway because she can't see them, wears airpods while driving, leaves the engine running while the car is in the garage, and intentionally stops short when she thinks the person behind her is too close.....
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I can’t see the photo, what is it?
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Post by Lolislol26 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:33 pm

Eve’s socks and shoes couldn’t be better. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201909 ... a09cdf.jpg[/IMG]


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Post by ctx2002 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:09 pm

Lolislol26 wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:33 pm
Eve’s socks and shoes couldn’t be better.

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I honestly don't get some of Ruby's fashion choices (or the ones she makes for the kids). Sometimes I have to remind myself that she's only a few years older than me, because it sometimes looks like she stepped out of a time machine from the 90's.
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Re: 8 Passengers : The Dementia Years | Part #12

Post by Kattiness Everdeen » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:25 am

Lolislol26 wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:28 pm
Kattiness Everdeen wrote:Coming from the girl who lied about a hit and run, can't stay in the lines on the highway because she can't see them, wears airpods while driving, leaves the engine running while the car is in the garage, and intentionally stops short when she thinks the person behind her is too close.....

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I can’t see the photo, what is it?
It is from Shari's Instagram stories where she answers fan questions.

Fan: "What are your pet peeves?"

Shari:
"-bad drivers who speed up when I try to pass them
-bad drivers who sit at a light even when it's green
-bad drivers.
"
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Post by geezlouise_99 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:14 am

They didn't post a video today alot of ppl have asked why
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Post by iiarch » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:13 am

Ruby's back at it again with the comments about Chad. She's stating that many people are saying that she shouldn't let Chad be "responsible" because he's just a kid. If she's refering to what people are saying on this forum and in Instagram comments, that is not exactly what people are saying.

Yes, make sure you raise responsible teenagers, but, there is a difference between being responsible and making them feel like a prisoner in their own home. Teens need to explore and learn about the World. Ruby is raising sheltered kids and the real world is gonna hit them hard soon enough.
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Post by Catface2 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:17 am

That didn’t look like stew to me. Stew is rich and thick and hearty. That shit looked like watery undone soup. Omg and they are selling a cook book!? LMAO
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Post by lmmomSD » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:10 am

Catface2 wrote:That didn’t look like stew to me. Stew is rich and thick and hearty. That shit looked like watery undone soup. Omg and they are selling a cook book!? LMAO
And Ruby is writing a PARENTING book. Anyone who would look to the Griffiths for cooking or parenting advice deserves what they get. Unfortunately, it's the innocent kids who get the shaft.

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Post by natalka81 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:33 am

iiarch wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:13 am
Ruby's back at it again with the comments about Chad. She's stating that many people are saying that she shouldn't let Chad be "responsible" because he's just a kid. If she's refering to what people are saying on this forum and in Instagram comments, that is not exactly what people are saying.

Yes, make sure you raise responsible teenagers, but, there is a difference between being responsible and making them feel like a prisoner in their own home. Teens need to explore and learn about the World. Ruby is raising sheltered kids and the real world is gonna hit them hard soon enough.
Sometimes I wonder if it's that a. YouTubers deliberately misunderstand comments that critique them in any way, or
b. if they actually just don't get it at all, or
c. if they see anything that isn't effusive praise and assume it's hate.

Maybe it's a combination of all of the above? Anyway, it's kind of how I ended up here. I wanted to be able to write honest, constructive comments about vlogs without being accused of being a "hater" or being deliberately misunderstood. Part of me hopes some of these vloggers do read here from time to time to see that many of us are offering decent observations and that it's not all about hating them. I do kind of hope, though, that their children don't read here!
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Post by auburgines » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:27 am

If Ruby didn't want opinions on her life and family then she really should not be making youtube videos. I think it's ironic that she said Chad needs to be responsible and be responsible for his choices, he made the choice not to be 'humble', and to want to go to school with his friends, and I am pretty sure he'd have 'lived' with that choice. She was the one who sent him away to learn to be responsible because she didn't like his choices, so hopefully the comments will make her look in the mirror, properly not read loads of books.
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Post by haremsforbidden » Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:34 pm

I feel sorry for the Franke children, Ruby is a controlling nutjob and Kevin isn't much better. Putting Chads personal business on YouTube is not acceptable at all, they should have taken some time off of YouTube to deal with their family and Chad but I can see where Ruby and Kevin didn't want to lose the income that the rest of their little moneymakers bring in for them. Sending your child away to the desert for weeks and weeks on end with is nothing is child abuse. That is piss poor parenting at its finest. They have $$$$ and didn't want to do it face to face with him so they are paying someone else to do try and do it for them. Next year it will be Shari in a facility because of her issues with calories and exercise. The video "Was this a mistake" is cringeworthy there is no reason that house should look like a pigsty, birthday and baptism are one-day events, what does Ruby do all-day while the kids are at school sit on her ass? The kids can also pick up after themselves. I can see the kids marrying a young age to get away from those two nitwit parents.
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Post by SwiftlyD » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:31 pm

I don't know if this is just because I'm not a parent but I have a huge issue with shipping tour kid off to some camp for months. Sending your kiss to daycare is one thing because some parents literally can't be come for the kids because they're making a living but to me sending your kid away is a whole different thing. It kind of just seems like lazy parenting to me like if Chad is having mental health issues send him to an actual therapist not to some camp where he's in the middle of the desert hiking for days on end. Maybe he actually needs to be on anti depressants or adhdeda if his mental health is so bad he's failing school.

Sidenote: my brain automatically went to the lgbtq community when ruby said that there was rhetoric out there she doesn't agree with in yesterday's video
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Post by Kataja » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:33 pm

Who puts kids' clothes into washing machine without emptying the pockets?

What is the truth in this (Ruby :D)
The truth is...
Ruby can totally blame herself for ruining the load of laundry.
Rule number one doing laundry is to check the pockets!
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