C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

[Playsinrain]

I am NOT saying she doesn't deserve a nice place to live. That never entered my mind. And maybe I am nit picking. I have done it before with vloggers and probably will again. Cullen calling it "their home" is fine. It is their home. I was uncomfortable with all the posts saying "Brittany's house" like her boyfriend didn't have anything to do with it, when she just got out of jail last week. They're not married and they just moved in together, so who knows what is actually going to happen. Maybe I am just too cynical about the happily ever after here, because I have buried too many friends because of drugs and alcohol, so I am taking a wait and see attitude here. And relationships are hard when you're not trying to stay clean and sober. Just don't want the boyfriend and house to become more important than recovery. I'm obviously not getting my point across, so I am not going to press it. I just wanted to make it clear that I in no way think she deserves to be punished any more, or doesn't deserve a nice home. Of course she does.

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With the comments, the thing i think you aren't thinking about is that viewers know Britney bc she is Cullen's sister. Of course they are going to say it's his sisters house, bc that's the connection to the vlog... her being Cullen's sister. Also, they don't know about her issues unless they read here, so they don't know that she likely is not on the paperwork. I think Cullen saying "they" bought it was either out of convenience (no need in telling us how the home is listed in deed books) and/or bc he want's to keep her absence as "normal" as possible. I mean for all intents and purposes Cullen might not be on the deed to his home (i know we have seen public record and all that.. pretty sure anyway) but it doesn't matter, it's still his home.. it is Britney's house if she lives there. I don't think anyone has said that Corey had nothing to with it. Even Cullen said "their" he didn't at all imply that it was ONLY Britney's.
Maybe i'm giving her too much credit. She could be strung out in a ditch somewhere in a week. But i try not to be that judgmental. Addiction IS hard and relapses happen. But i would MUCH rather see her throw herself into finishing her new house and planning for the future than anything else. I have a feeling they will be married and trying for kids soon. I think her bio clock is ticking.

[cynthiadancer]

Cory's Instagram from August states that he and Britany bought a house. Now, if she was still in jail at that time I don't know how that's possible but we do not TRULY know the situation here even though we may think we do. Anything is possible and Cory himself is calling it her (their) house. I will try to add a screenshot but I've never done it before so hopefully it works.

[lmmomSD]

Cory's Instagram from August states that he and Britany bought a house. Now, if she was still in jail at that time I don't know how that's possible but we do not TRULY know the situation here even though we may think we do. Anything is possible and Cory himself is calling it her (their) house. I will try to add a screenshot but I've never done it before so hopefully it works.

Ok. I gotta laugh at the multiple uses of the term "in Alabama".

And once again, I do want to make it absolutely clear that I do wish Brittany the best. It's a nasty horrible disease. And honestly, I almost wish that Cullen and Katie would talk about it, or Brittany would. There's too much stigma. And I don't want my comments to be misconstrued as judging her. Because I definitely don't. I have lots of personal experience with addiction, so forgive me for being such an Eeyore. It's hard to stay clean under the best of circumstances. And I wasn't exaggerating about burying too many friends. I wonder if Cullen and Jay will curb their beverage intake around her at least at first.

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[Playsinrain]

Cory's Instagram from August states that he and Britany bought a house. Now, if she was still in jail at that time I don't know how that's possible but we do not TRULY know the situation here even though we may think we do. Anything is possible and Cory himself is calling it her (their) house. I will try to add a screenshot but I've never done it before so hopefully it works.

Ok. I gotta laugh at the multiple uses of the term "in Alabama".

And once again, I do want to make it absolutely clear that I do wish Brittany the best. It's a nasty horrible disease. And honestly, I almost wish that Cullen and Katie would talk about it, or Brittany would. There's too much stigma. And I don't want my comments to be misconstrued as judging her. Because I definitely don't. I have lots of personal experience with addiction, so forgive me for being such an Eeyore. It's hard to stay clean under the best of circumstances. And I wasn't exaggerating about burying too many friends. I wonder if Cullen and Jay will curb their beverage intake around her at least at first.

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There was drinking at the dinner. Corey was drinking a mixed drink throughout the vlog, there was a Miller Light on the counter and I’m pretty sure I saw a mixed drink beside Britney while they were eating. Alcohol wasn’t her issue (that I know of??) so I don’t think it would bother her. I do realize that drinking and drugs go hand in hand with some people, but they were not hiding it at all so I assume she’s ok with it?

[workfromhomemom]

Do you all know for a fact that his sister went to jail and how in the world did it ever come up?

Her home is gorgeous and so is her man. I wish them the best.

[Playsinrain]

Do you all know for a fact that his sister went to jail and how in the world did it ever come up?

Her home is gorgeous and so is her man. I wish them the best.

I think someone found an arrest report and subsequent sentencing. I think you can search inmates through public records and get sentaces, release dates ect. Basically some good internet sleuthing. Lol (not by me..but I think there might have been some screen shots provided at some point in the past)
And I agree. I hope they were being serious when they were talking about the hidden bookshelf bar but I don’t have my hopes up. That would be spectacular lol and he’s a very talented woodworker. (Reminds me of Cullen’s Dad.. he was very talented in metal and wood working.)

[calliepaige]

Re: my posts saying Brittany only vs B and C, that’s also me being lazy posting and not saying both names.

But also in person talking about a friends house I would just say one of the names; “oh Jill’s house was so nice”
Haha

I hope Cory is the man to get her life straight and keep it straight and not go back to drugs. She definitely seems different now then she was in the past.




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[foreversoulmates]

If Cory is Canadian I'm guessing they are getting married VERY soon. I don't think he can legally work here unless he's sponsored by an employer. Getting married to Britney might expedite that situation. Typically Canadians can only stay in the US for about 6 months (within a 12 month period) and then they have to go back.

Well, that puts a different spin on it.

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Cory lived in Colorado at one time. It's on his instagram.

[yeahyeahyeah6]

I am NOT saying she doesn't deserve a nice place to live. That never entered my mind. And maybe I am nit picking. I have done it before with vloggers and probably will again. Cullen calling it "their home" is fine. It is their home. I was uncomfortable with all the posts saying "Brittany's house" like her boyfriend didn't have anything to do with it, when she just got out of jail last week. They're not married and they just moved in together, so who knows what is actually going to happen. Maybe I am just too cynical about the happily ever after here, because I have buried too many friends because of drugs and alcohol, so I am taking a wait and see attitude here. And relationships are hard when you're not trying to stay clean and sober. Just don't want the boyfriend and house to become more important than recovery. I'm obviously not getting my point across, so I am not going to press it. I just wanted to make it clear that I in no way think she deserves to be punished any more, or doesn't deserve a nice home. Of course she does.

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With the comments, the thing i think you aren't thinking about is that viewers know Britney bc she is Cullen's sister. Of course they are going to say it's his sisters house, bc that's the connection to the vlog... her being Cullen's sister. Also, they don't know about her issues unless they read here, so they don't know that she likely is not on the paperwork. I think Cullen saying "they" bought it was either out of convenience (no need in telling us how the home is listed in deed books) and/or bc he want's to keep her absence as "normal" as possible. I mean for all intents and purposes Cullen might not be on the deed to his home (i know we have seen public record and all that.. pretty sure anyway) but it doesn't matter, it's still his home.. it is Britney's house if she lives there. I don't think anyone has said that Corey had nothing to with it. Even Cullen said "their" he didn't at all imply that it was ONLY Britney's.
Maybe i'm giving her too much credit. She could be strung out in a ditch somewhere in a week. But i try not to be that judgmental. Addiction IS hard and relapses happen. But i would MUCH rather see her throw herself into finishing her new house and planning for the future than anything else. I have a feeling they will be married and trying for kids soon. I think her bio clock is ticking.

Thank you! I thought the same thing. He’s referring to it as Brittany’s house simply because it’s his sister and his vlogs. It would be weird for him to say “it’s Cory’s house and Brittany lives here.” At the end of the day he can say a banana owns it and it won’t change anything.


I did however find it weird he mentioned she was in Colorado. As if she just moved from CO to AL.


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[HashtagBlessed]

I think it's premature for Cory to add her to the title considering they are not married and she's newly released. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but from where I'm sitting on the outside with no special knowledge of the situation, it seems like everything is being rushed. And I totally get it, they're elated to have her home and she lost years of her life and she's anxious to catch-up. But if she is clean, she's most likely clean because she went to prison and was caught with meth in her system while in prison. She hasn't experienced the temptation of being on the outside, so to speak, with the means to reignite her addiction. I would imagine the next few months are extremely stressful for everyone who cares about her. On the one hand, I think it's great that she has a safe home, supportive family, and a partner. But the timeline does raise some questions. I'm not familiar with how things work in Alabama, but it's quite possible that she has no consequences in terms of drug testing now that she's released. Addiction is not easy to overcome, even when the person desperately wants to be sober. The truth is we will likely never know what's really going on, because I doubt Cullen will share that information.

I thought it was tacky for Cullen and Katie to joke about her being pregnant. She didn't really seem to mind when Cullen commented that Corey looked good with Brooks on his lap, but she seemed noticeably uncomfortable when Katie joking asked Britany if she was going to announce a pregnancy. I'm sure she realizes that her time in prison and her addiction have taken years away from her and that most women her age are settling down and starting families, and I'm sure she feels that ache. But maybe they could let her focus on her sobriety post-prison right now.

[lmmomSD]

Cory's Instagram from August states that he and Britany bought a house. Now, if she was still in jail at that time I don't know how that's possible but we do not TRULY know the situation here even though we may think we do. Anything is possible and Cory himself is calling it her (their) house. I will try to add a screenshot but I've never done it before so hopefully it works.

Ok. I gotta laugh at the multiple uses of the term "in Alabama".

And once again, I do want to make it absolutely clear that I do wish Brittany the best. It's a nasty horrible disease. And honestly, I almost wish that Cullen and Katie would talk about it, or Brittany would. There's too much stigma. And I don't want my comments to be misconstrued as judging her. Because I definitely don't. I have lots of personal experience with addiction, so forgive me for being such an Eeyore. It's hard to stay clean under the best of circumstances. And I wasn't exaggerating about burying too many friends. I wonder if Cullen and Jay will curb their beverage intake around her at least at first.

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There was drinking at the dinner. Corey was drinking a mixed drink throughout the vlog, there was a Miller Light on the counter and I’m pretty sure I saw a mixed drink beside Britney while they were eating. Alcohol wasn’t her issue (that I know of??) so I don’t think it would bother her. I do realize that drinking and drugs go hand in hand with some people, but they were not hiding it at all so I assume she’s ok with it?

If you call yourself "clean", you are not supposed to drink. And if she's on probation and being drug tested, they are probably testing for alcohol. N/A doesn't differentiate. I _am_ going to get judgy here, so feel free to scroll by. NA says "Alcohol is a drug. Period" You are supposed to be free of mind altering substances. There's no such thing as "alcohol not being her problem, so it won't bother her". Just not a good idea, if she wants lasting recovery.

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[lmmomSD]

I think it's premature for Cory to add her to the title considering they are not married and she's newly released. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but from where I'm sitting on the outside with no special knowledge of the situation, it seems like everything is being rushed. And I totally get it, they're elated to have her home and she lost years of her life and she's anxious to catch-up. But if she is clean, she's most likely clean because she went to prison and was caught with meth in her system while in prison. She hasn't experienced the temptation of being on the outside, so to speak, with the means to reignite her addiction. I would imagine the next few months are extremely stressful for everyone who cares about her. On the one hand, I think it's great that she has a safe home, supportive family, and a partner. But the timeline does raise some questions. I'm not familiar with how things work in Alabama, but it's quite possible that she has no consequences in terms of drug testing now that she's released. Addiction is not easy to overcome, even when the person desperately wants to be sober. The truth is we will likely never know what's really going on, because I doubt Cullen will share that information.

I thought it was tacky for Cullen and Katie to joke about her being pregnant. She didn't really seem to mind when Cullen commented that Corey looked good with Brooks on his lap, but she seemed noticeably uncomfortable when Katie joking asked Britany if she was going to announce a pregnancy. I'm sure she realizes that her time in prison and her addiction have taken years away from her and that most women her age are settling down and starting families, and I'm sure she feels that ache. But maybe they could let her focus on her sobriety post-prison right now.

Thanks so much. Everyone else all glowingly happy, she's got this wonderful boyfriend and house and now Cullen was saying Brooks "looked good" on her boyfriend. She needs stability and a job and she doesn't need to pop out a baby. Life changing things like moving in with someone, marriage and babies are not recommended in early recovery. She went to jail for dealing and got caught with meth in her system. Not judging that. Just saying that it's serious. She had a very serious addiction. And it needs to be taken seriously. The boyfriend and house shouldn't be her focus. My friend who is always relapsing on meth? She has two beautiful daughters. But she makes her boyfriend her Higher Power, and whenever the latest Mr Wonderful dumps her, she relapses. And I know Brittany isn't her. But jeez, slow TF down! She wasn't just in Colorado. She was in prison. For a felony. It takes time to readjust and learn to stay sober on the outside.

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[Playsinrain]

Ok. I gotta laugh at the multiple uses of the term "in Alabama".

And once again, I do want to make it absolutely clear that I do wish Brittany the best. It's a nasty horrible disease. And honestly, I almost wish that Cullen and Katie would talk about it, or Brittany would. There's too much stigma. And I don't want my comments to be misconstrued as judging her. Because I definitely don't. I have lots of personal experience with addiction, so forgive me for being such an Eeyore. It's hard to stay clean under the best of circumstances. And I wasn't exaggerating about burying too many friends. I wonder if Cullen and Jay will curb their beverage intake around her at least at first.

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There was drinking at the dinner. Corey was drinking a mixed drink throughout the vlog, there was a Miller Light on the counter and I’m pretty sure I saw a mixed drink beside Britney while they were eating. Alcohol wasn’t her issue (that I know of??) so I don’t think it would bother her. I do realize that drinking and drugs go hand in hand with some people, but they were not hiding it at all so I assume she’s ok with it?

If you call yourself "clean", you are not supposed to drink. And if she's on probation and being drug tested, they are probably testing for alcohol. N/A doesn't differentiate. I _am_ going to get judgy here, so feel free to scroll by. NA says "Alcohol is a drug. Period" You are supposed to be free of mind altering substances. There's no such thing as "alcohol not being her problem, so it won't bother her". Just not a good idea, if she wants lasting recovery.

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I don’t know if she was drinking or not, I’m not positive it was a hard drink beside her. But there was booze at the dinner and they talked about putting in a bar. I do know that you can’t be “clean” and drink. I know a few recovering addicts and some of them drink and some of them do not. Time will tell if she is drinking, or if the drinking sends her into a downward spiral... hopefully it won’t.
I do know that she will be on probation for 5 years, and unless her felony involved alcohol she will not be tested for it. She will be tested for all illegal drugs though. Alabama only requires alcohol testing for those convicted of alcohol related crimes. (Drug or alcohol testing is only required for individuals who were convicted of drug or alcohol related crimes. So I guess if you are on probation for robbing a bank you don’t have to drug test, but you have other conditions too so..)

[Playsinrain]

That’s crazy though Bc in GA you are drug tested while on probation no matter the offense (but like in AL, only for alcohol if it was part of your crime) unless you have special stipulations saying you are at little to no risk for drug abuse.

[lmmomSD]

But she probably has a requirement for meetings. So she will be hearing every day that "alcohol is a drug".
Most people in NA don't consider you clean if you're drinking. Just like people in AA don't consider you sober if you're smoking pot or using drugs. I am honestly surprised to hear of recovering addicts who drink. I know nobody's perfect. But it's not really "clean and sober" if you drink socially.
I will get off my soapbox now. Getting into dead horse territory.

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[RecklessDisregard]

That's a hell of a guy, to wait for her to get out of prison. I guess I feel like that points to Brittany being a lovable and decent person, as opposed to an inherently "troubled" "addict."

Can you clarify what you mean by putting troubled and addict in quotes? I think there's a really big misconception that people who struggle with addiction, though they me "troubled," can't be lovable and decent. It's hard to understand unless you or someone close to you is an addict, but it truly is a disease and I personally be all addicts (on some level) are genuinely decent people who are just struggling.


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I deleted about 3 pages from that comment before posting, and actually came to regret posting any part of it within an hour of doing so. But without being super argumentative, I don't believe that labeling a person in that way is useful (hence the quote marks). Having seen the entire spectrum of people involved in drug use and trade, I don't necessarily agree that they all have a disease, and I think prison's only value for those facing drug charges is to spit out more knowledgeable and better-connected dealers who may have affiliated with unfortunate groups for protection on the inside. God help them if they hope to return to a career that pays decently, because that's not happening.

They're just people. Creating a criminal class to occupy the bottom rung of American society has not been helpful in any way. I suppose that I felt sorry for Brittany, that her character and life experiences are so easily reduced with terms like "troubled" and "addict." That said, though, her chances of moving forward successfully are much higher than the average "troubled" "addict" just coming home from prison. She has a supportive family, a relationship, a beautiful home. It's more than most.

[lmmomSD]

Reckless, you said it about prison. Spot on!

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[Playsinrain]

I wish we knew more about Corey....what’s his backstory and how did he wind up in Alabama? how the heck did she meet him and how long have they been together? The whole family seems comfortable around him, so it seems this isn’t the first time they have met... it’s just... strange.

[Playsinrain]

Reckless, you said it about prison. Spot on!

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Totally agree too. Don’t get me started on sending drug addicts to prison...

[lmmomSD]

I wish we knew more about Corey....what’s his backstory and how did he wind up in Alabama? how the heck did she meet him and how long have they been together? The whole family seems comfortable around him, so it seems this isn’t the first time they have met... it’s just... strange.

Yep-- I'm dying for the tea on this. For him to stand by her when she got convicted and wait for her, is pretty amazing.

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