C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

[IceCreamCone]

And he used to be able to. People point out that he used to be the SAHP. Operative term is "used to be". He hasn't been a reliable caregiver for a while. That's what I and a few others have been getting at.

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Yup. He used to be praised for his editing and creativity as well, which has also taken a nose dive lately. He used to be a lot of things, but has since lost it. It isn't bad luck that has made their channel lag behind the others. They just aren't as good at it! In buying that fancy house they have now handcuffed themselves to a career in the public eye that just doesn't seem like it's going to last. They once valued their privacy and kept their last name secret, but have since decided they don't care which tells me they plan to be on YouTube for the long haul. No plans for Katie to ever return to work now that her name is so easily searchable and her own parenting/life choices can be so easily scrutinized. The kids will grow up with everyone knowing their names, something K&C tried to protect themselves from. Buying that house seems like the moment everything turned, and I think it's the moment they realized they were set as long as they went full out on the YouTube path. Trouble is, it isn't working and I think the pressures are getting to them both, just in different ways.

[wishes]

I agree. Maybe if Katie got out more than just her hair & nails done, like a weekend getaway with the girls (her sister and her nieces) while Cullen watched both kids, that would be beneficial to everyone. Katie gets her 'me' time and Cullen can prove to everyone he is capable of solo-parenting two children. I know I keep repeating myself but parenting is hard and I can't imagine how single parents do it (*praise hands*), especially with multiples but it would be an eye opener for him to see what Katie does the majority of the time. We all need time away from every day-to-day things and I think Katie is in desperate need of that and Cullen should be offering her a weekend away. This might help their marriage too.

[Playsinrain]

I think the thing with bryan and missy is that missy has to have a support system with her AT ALL TIMES. So when bryan doesn’t go to appointments, its mimi and papa who have to go with her. Katie is clearly a very independent woman. I think she can handle an urgent care visit alone

And yet.... Cullen had Katie's parents helping him watch MG while he had fun at the football game. I like Cullen far better than Bryan, but I agree that people are giving Cullen an overall pass for being "like his dad" but not giving Bryan the same pass.

This is slightly off topic but related.. I haven't seen anyone (not saying that they haven't, i just haven't seen it) saying Cullen was being like his dad. There was something always a little.. idk how to put it without seeming disrespectful of the dead.. but maybe offputting? About Howard to me. In my mind from the very small amounts of info we have been given by Cullen, Howard was a very absent father. Maybe not in physical terms, (although maybe, i know he lived in mexico for quite some time, but idk when that happened, if it were after the kids were grown or what) but for sure in mental and hands on wise. If his actions towards Gaines are any indication of how he was as a father, my heart hurts for Cullen. I don't think we ever really saw Howard talk to, play or even hold Gaines. He never acted like she was even in the room most times. He never engaged with her. I have a very strong feeling that most, if not all the parenting was done by Berry. Cullen has expressed in the past that he basically never felt like he made his father proud, and that his father never really told the kids (well other than Annie? Is is Annie he liked the most? I know it was no secret he had a favorite child) he loved them. If any of that is any indication as to how Howard was as a father then i think Cullen is doing a MUCH better job than his father ever did. I'm not saying that Cullen deserves the Father of the Year award for telling his kids he loves them and being hands on, but i do think that he is trying to do better than the role model he had. I think Cullen had a harder childhood than he lets on, especially where his father is concerned. I applaud him for not wanting to be like his father and let history repeat itself, even if he does have some things he really needs to work on.

[HelloSweetie]

^^^ last week a few people were talking about Cullen being raised to be like his father. I remember it because my impression of Howard was similar to yours, and I couldn't believe someone would even justify Cullen's recent distantness as somehow being ok because of that.

[Strawberry26]

This was found on my Facebook page.. Made me think of so many things... [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201710 ... b871e2.jpg[/img]

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[lmmomSD]

This was found on my Facebook page.. Made me think of so many things... [img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201710 ... b871e2.jpg[/img]

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That's true. But when you put your parenting choices out on YouTube for all the world to see every day, and imply in a vlog title that things were dire ("rushed to the hospital-- couldn't breathe, vs "taken to urgent care- wheezing a bit") you can't act all surprised that people have opinions about your parenting.

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[RecklessDisregard]

I definitely agree that Cullen set himself up for controversy with that ridiculous vlog title. I don't think his presence at Urgent Care was needed in any way, and the only way drinking figures into it IMO is if he drove home afterwards (which I realize is an unpopular opinion and also a stalemate). I just don't perceive this to have been a serious medical emergency in which Katie would require support or Cullen would have to rush up there for any reason. I'm pretty sure Gaines and Brooks have had more medical attention in the last year than I did during my entire childhood, so I'll grant that my opinion is biased, but I still agree with the poster who said this is a case of backfiring clickbait more than anything else.

I also don't care whether Bryan attends medical appointments, lol.

Katie's going to stand by her man. I'm sure she privately wishes he did some things differently, but the more people pick at him, the more she will defend and make excuses for him. She chose him a long time ago, at a time when it's reasonable to assume she could easily have attracted any number of other men. Cullen's not being his best self lately, and should try harder to overcome certain flaws inherent in his personality, but Katie will hold that marriage together until it becomes 100% untenable, which may never happen.

They should have stayed in their old house, paid it off and made some minor improvements. It was plenty big enough for a family of 4. I didn't feel that way initially, and I doubt I would be able to resist the temptation to upgrade my own life if I had the opportunity. But it seems like the added pressure to make more YT$$ is exposing the cracks in their relationship/life.

[Playsinrain]

I definitely agree that Cullen set himself up for controversy with that ridiculous vlog title. I don't think his presence at Urgent Care was needed in any way, and the only way drinking figures into it IMO is if he drove home afterwards (which I realize is an unpopular opinion and also a stalemate). I just don't perceive this to have been a serious medical emergency in which Katie would require support or Cullen would have to rush up there for any reason. I'm pretty sure Gaines and Brooks have had more medical attention in the last year than I did during my entire childhood, so I'll grant that my opinion is biased, but I still agree with the poster who said this is a case of backfiring clickbait more than anything else.

I also don't care whether Bryan attends medical appointments, lol.

Katie's going to stand by her man. I'm sure she privately wishes he did some things differently, but the more people pick at him, the more she will defend and make excuses for him. She chose him a long time ago, at a time when it's reasonable to assume she could easily have attracted any number of other men. Cullen's not being his best self lately, and should try harder to overcome certain flaws inherent in his personality, but Katie will hold that marriage together until it becomes 100% untenable, which may never happen.

They should have stayed in their old house, paid it off and made some minor improvements. It was plenty big enough for a family of 4. I didn't feel that way initially, and I doubt I would be able to resist the temptation to upgrade my own life if I had the opportunity. But it seems like the added pressure to make more YT$$ is exposing the cracks in their relationship/life.

100% this. If he had titled the vlog something different and MUCH closer to the truth (bc the WHOLE title was such an exaggeration, there was no hospital and Brooks was breathing FINE abet for some wheezing) we would not have pages upon pages of posts about this. He set himself up for disaster with that title.

[lmmomSD]

I definitely agree that Cullen set himself up for controversy with that ridiculous vlog title. I don't think his presence at Urgent Care was needed in any way, and the only way drinking figures into it IMO is if he drove home afterwards (which I realize is an unpopular opinion and also a stalemate). I just don't perceive this to have been a serious medical emergency in which Katie would require support or Cullen would have to rush up there for any reason. I'm pretty sure Gaines and Brooks have had more medical attention in the last year than I did during my entire childhood, so I'll grant that my opinion is biased, but I still agree with the poster who said this is a case of backfiring clickbait more than anything else.

I also don't care whether Bryan attends medical appointments, lol.

Katie's going to stand by her man. I'm sure she privately wishes he did some things differently, but the more people pick at him, the more she will defend and make excuses for him. She chose him a long time ago, at a time when it's reasonable to assume she could easily have attracted any number of other men. Cullen's not being his best self lately, and should try harder to overcome certain flaws inherent in his personality, but Katie will hold that marriage together until it becomes 100% untenable, which may never happen.

They should have stayed in their old house, paid it off and made some minor improvements. It was plenty big enough for a family of 4. I didn't feel that way initially, and I doubt I would be able to resist the temptation to upgrade my own life if I had the opportunity. But it seems like the added pressure to make more YT$$ is exposing the cracks in their relationship/life.

100% this. If he had titled the vlog something different and MUCH closer to the truth (bc the WHOLE title was such an exaggeration, there was no hospital and Brooks was breathing FINE abet for some wheezing) we would not have pages upon pages of posts about this. He set himself up for disaster with that title.

I still think there would have been some side eyeing here. Probably not as bad as he got. But I bet the comments section of the vlog would have been a lot nicer.

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[Mumsnotproud]

I agree with whoever said Cullen was probably 'well on his way' even before Kickoff... and Katie was most likely over it/him. Even in the vlog she tries to justify/explain why she's there alone... as if she already forsees it being an issue.

I think this vlog was a total editing fail... The game clips could have easily been left out or sliced together in a short [music only] montage.

I totally understand friends and family were in town... and I totally agree that there really wasn't a need for someone else to be with Katie and Brooks...

But when you're rewatching the footage to edit... how do you not see how big of a D-Bag you come off as... as you're 'boozed' trying to read texts and give your wife props... while sitting in HER parents' luxury box suite for the 3+ time this year?!

[freshbalsam]

My biggest problem doesn’t stem from Cullen not going to UC, but the fact he drank enough to sound sloshed and plain dumb when talking. I literally paused and went back when he went on his spiel about Katie because he sounded intoxicated. I don’t get how he doesn’t understand by now that he is so easy to read when he’s under the influence, yet continues to add those clips into the vlogs.

Anyways - I know Katie said she preferred to take Brooks by herself, I feel the same way with my kids sometimes. However, it’s sad to think that Katie spent the night before tending to Brooks, probably attached to him the whole day during the parade leading up to going to UC. I feel like all of it goes back to how Katie expressed her feelings during their “changes” vlog and Cullen’s behavior. Instead of being like “alright, I’ll stay here!” be a demanding husband and say, “Katie, I want to come with you to HELP you. Gaines has half of her family here, she’ll be fine for a few hours.” Even if she really did not want him to come along, he didn’t need to be drinking. It’s not hard to say I’ll pass on that beer incase my wife texts me that she needs me to come to the doctor for my sick son. He sounded like a jerk when he read those texts from Katie updating him about B.


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[iheartyt]

Brooks was able to breathe but he was miserable! She should have went in with him much earlier! And y'all are right. Cullen shouldn't have been drinking. I'm fed up with both of them!

[Baconsgirl]

Bryan used to get shit on all of the time for not going to routine doctors appointments but somehow it's okay to skip out on urgent care? Cullen is a piss poor excuse for a parent who does nothing to enhance or contribute to his kids lives and Katie knows it.

OMG you say piss poor too?! Deep down I think Katie really did want Cullen there. She can deny all she wants. He should have been there and she knows it. Her parents are great with Gaines and could have watched her. I was greatly disappointed with his behavior.


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[Baconsgirl]

Bryan used to get shit on all of the time for not going to routine doctors appointments but somehow it's okay to skip out on urgent care? Cullen is a piss poor excuse for a parent who does nothing to enhance or contribute to his kids lives and Katie knows it.

OMG you say piss poor too?! Deep down I think Katie really did want Cullen there. She can deny all she wants. He should have been there and she knows it. Her parents are great with Gaines and could have watched her. I was greatly disappointed with his behavior.


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[lmmomSD]

Bryan used to get shit on all of the time for not going to routine doctors appointments but somehow it's okay to skip out on urgent care? Cullen is a piss poor excuse for a parent who does nothing to enhance or contribute to his kids lives and Katie knows it.

OMG you say piss poor too?! Deep down I think Katie really did want Cullen there. She can deny all she wants. He should have been there and she knows it. Her parents are great with Gaines and could have watched her. I was greatly disappointed with his behavior.


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Piss poor is an excellent term! My dad used that one...

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[Baconsgirl]

Bryan used to get shit on all of the time for not going to routine doctors appointments but somehow it's okay to skip out on urgent care? Cullen is a piss poor excuse for a parent who does nothing to enhance or contribute to his kids lives and Katie knows it.

OMG you say piss poor too?! Deep down I think Katie really did want Cullen there. She can deny all she wants. He should have been there and she knows it. Her parents are great with Gaines and could have watched her. I was greatly disappointed with his behavior.


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Piss poor is an excellent term! My dad used that one...

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it’s recently became part of my vocab. My grandfather said it lol.


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[RootBeerFloatie]

Hah, I think I picked it up from my dad.

[madi_b_123]

OMG you say piss poor too?! Deep down I think Katie really did want Cullen there. She can deny all she wants. He should have been there and she knows it. Her parents are great with Gaines and could have watched her. I was greatly disappointed with his behavior.


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Piss poor is an excellent term! My dad used that one...

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it’s recently became part of my vocab. My grandfather said it lol.


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Must be a sad thing! My dad is the only person I’ve ever heard use that term!


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[auntasaurus19]

Did they delete some of the negative comments from the Urgent Care vlog? I just skimmed through the comments and I don't see anything that bad...

[Sarai]

Did they delete some of the negative comments from the Urgent Care vlog? I just skimmed through the comments and I don't see anything that bad...

I think so. I tried finding some too after reading here, and only saw Katie’s comments referring to the negativity.