Gardner Quad Squad - The Freeloaders (Part 10)

Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:24 pm

I have to say, I think that Scarlett and Evie have the potential to be quite pretty.
It's too bad they will grow up to have Bison's figure and eating habits.[/quote]

Isn’t it funny how we all see things differently. I have never thought the bigger twins were remotely cute. Their faces are too big, noses too small and looks like a pig snout and the have oversized mouths even for their big faces. They have great hair though and pretty eyes except occasionally when Evie appears to have a demon look in hers[/quote]Yes, this! I agree about the Heavies, their looks are not cute nor pretty. Snout for a nose, yup. Thank you for mentioning this. I don't even feel guilty for saying that. It's the truth at least.
I do see indie and esme as the prettier of the FF. I think a lot of jealousy will emerge from the 2 heavies as the teenage years approach.

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I'm all for bitching about the parents and their inability to parent. But there is absolutely no need to criticise whether their girls are cute or not and passing judgement on their prettiness. Yes, you may not believe that they are cute or what have you, but there is still no need to be publicly commenting on it. They are children. They are not the ones causing the problems in their lives. Blast the parents all you want, but those girls are innocent in this. I am honestly appalled with what you have all been saying, I'm sure you'd love it if a whole bunch of people ridiculed your children on their looks. If this occurred in public you would be a bully. Grow up!

Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:49 pm

Anyone notice the witch's shoes candy dish is gone? It was used in that one video and now it's off the table and gone. The FF probably broke it...

Unread post by **qsauntiem** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:50 pm

It's formatting weird and I couldn't copy/paste, but this is in response to littlemissmuffett.

I agree, their looks and to a certain extent their behavior, are (for me) off limits and something I won't touch with a 10 foot pole. The girls have zero responsibility here. The only reason they are the way they are is absolutely no limits, no boundaries set by their worthless parents who do nothing but encourage bad behavior. Even Evie's aggressive tendencies, if properly channeled, could be such an asset.

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Unread post by **DoodleBop** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:01 pm

Sisteroo wrote:
justalurker2 wrote:
Howlin17 wrote:What's a refrigerator mother?
A 1950's theory that lack of maternal warmth causes

autism
Lack of maternal warmth can & will mess up a child’s mind and sense of security & feeling loved, but I have to disagree that is causes autism. Autism is something you are born with ..... just my opinion

Neither do I.

Which is why I think a developmental pediatrician would have to be the one to unravel what's what because of overlapping symptoms. Not that I think they'd get their kids tested if they can avoid it. :/

Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:01 pm

GreenTrees003 wrote:Anyone notice the witch's shoes candy dish is gone? It was used in that one video and now it's off the table and gone. The FF probably broke it...

I saw it some time ago empty on their kitchen counter (the one with the stove) but by now it’s probably lost under all that trash and clutter. Maybe the maid will find it.

Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:09 pm

DoodleBop wrote:I think all the kids can be cute it's their behavior that makes them uncute and that's not their fault. It's like when you meet a kid who's super annoying at school then you finally meet their parents. Yeah no wonder that kid's a jerk his parents are too.

I see it going one of two ways - they never publicly or maybe even privately acknowledge their daughters' obvious developmental delays. Or when they finally do they blame it entirely on the delay\dosability and not the lack of parenting\neglect. Which as a mom of autistic children it annoys me because we still to this day deal with the effects of the "Refrigerator mother" idea from the 40s. Then you have people who don't give a shit who make us all look bad.

I’m sure they would/will tell their parents. Then it will be spread via gossip amongst the fam. It should then trickle down to our confidant here in this group.

I’m sure they already talk amongst themselves in regards to their developmental delay and it’s my best guess they are still blaming them being premature. Sooner or later it’s going to be obvious.

Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:19 pm

Jane wrote:As I've watched the Gardner vlogs over the years it seems to me they have become all about "spectacle" - (defined by dictionary.com in case the Gardners read here): "anything presented to the sight or view, especially something of a striking or impressive kind, a public show or display, especially on a large scale."

Everything is showy: the clothing, the huge donuts, the hair styles, the decorations, all the cheese (lol), eating out, all the shopping, the massive quantities of makeup etc. Even the way they celebrate anniversaries etc. It makes me wonder if Ashley and Tyson put on this huge, sing songy show to cover up a very sad under belly. A & T seem like "adult children." I remember them saying life was really tough before the girls came along.

The "showyness" makes it harder for a vlog viewer to discern what's really going on. On one hand, the girls look clean and put together on camera. Of course the girls giggle and laugh as they are filmed running full speed around the house past sharp corners, standing in their high chairs, throwing furniture down the stairs and eating mounds of candy and "treats."

Most mature parents realize the need to teach teach delayed gratification to children. The Gardner girls seem to be given whatever they want whenever they want it to appear "soooooooo happppppyyyy" (on camera?). Is that what's best for their overall 3 year old development? I found an interesting piece (link to site below):

"Psychological abuse is defined as 'sustained, repetitive, inappropriate behaviour which damages, or substantially reduces, the creative and developmental potential of crucially important mental faculties and mental processes of a child: these include intelligence, memory, recognition, perception, attention, language and moral development' (O'Hagan 1993, pp.33-34). Psychological abuse fundamentally undermines a child's capacity to understand and manage her/his environment by creating confusion and fear, thereby rendering the child more vulnerable and less confident (O'Hagan 1995)."

https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/e ... ltreatment

You said the words spectacle and showy. Back to the chandelier. When ASS was OMGing about the chandelier I was expecting something showy, huge and ostentatious. But instead it was the complete opposite. Too small for the huge entryway.

Can’t wait to see the one for the outside if there is one. That would be really funny if they put a big showy one out there and it would look like the workers accidentally switched them.

Unread post by **Merikat** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:24 pm

Several here seem to have children or loved ones with Autism. I've read a lot about it, and worked a little with some of these adults and children. I even attended a workshop give my Dr. Temple Grandin, and also read several of Dr. Tony Atwood's books. An amazing history of Autism diagnosis and supposed causes (most discounted) is a book titled In A Different Key, The Story of Autism, by John Donvan and Caron Zucker. Gives no answers, but is a fascinating read of the history, which I highly recommend!!

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Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:33 pm

I don’t care if you guys comment on the girls looks. I don’t care if you think they have pig noses, big mouths, wide fat heads, funny looking eyes, or pretty hair. I love to read all comments about anything. We all have different opinions about all kinds of things. I think the only comments that should be restricted are the ones against TOS.

Unread post by **CherryBaby** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:36 pm

littlemissmuffet123 wrote:I have to say, I think that Scarlett and Evie have the potential to be quite pretty.
It's too bad they will grow up to have Bison's figure and eating habits.

Isn’t it funny how we all see things differently. I have never thought the bigger twins were remotely cute. Their faces are too big, noses too small and looks like a pig snout and the have oversized mouths even for their big faces. They have great hair though and pretty eyes except occasionally when Evie appears to have a demon look in hers[/quote]Yes, this! I agree about the Heavies, their looks are not cute nor pretty. Snout for a nose, yup. Thank you for mentioning this. I don't even feel guilty for saying that. It's the truth at least.
I do see indie and esme as the prettier of the FF. I think a lot of jealousy will emerge from the 2 heavies as the teenage years approach.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]

I'm all for bitching about the parents and their inability to parent. But there is absolutely no need to criticise whether their girls are cute or not and passing judgement on their prettiness. Yes, you may not believe that they are cute or what have you, but there is still no need to be publicly commenting on it. They are children. They are not the ones causing the problems in their lives. Blast the parents all you want, but those girls are innocent in this. I am honestly appalled with what you have all been saying, I'm sure you'd love it if a whole bunch of people ridiculed your children on their looks. If this occurred in public you would be a bully. Grow up![/quote]

We've had this come up before. The quote above was not mine, but whoever said it has every right to say what she feels on this board. Has it ever occurred to you, Miss Muffett, that sometimes we get a little overly snarky because we are trying to give the Greedners a reason to take their FF out of the public eye? Most people would shut their internet presence down so incredibly fast if their kids' looks were being criticized online that it would make your head spin. So, it's the two Greedner Asses that are bullying their children by putting their every move out there for the world to see.
So we don't need to be told what we can and can't say on here, or be lectured. Thanks and have a nice day.

Unread post by **CherryBaby** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:38 pm

lovethispage wrote:I don’t care if you guys comment on the girls looks. I don’t care if you think they have pig noses, big mouths, wide fat heads, funny looking eyes, or pretty hair. I love to read all comments about anything. We all have different opinions about all kinds of things. I think the only comments that should be restricted are the ones against TOS.

Sorry, didn't see your great comment before I posted mine.

Unread post by **Sisteroo** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:39 pm

lovethispage wrote:I don’t care if you guys comment on the girls looks. I don’t care if you think they have pig noses, big mouths, wide fat heads, funny looking eyes, or pretty hair. I love to read all comments about anything. We all have different opinions about all kinds of things. I think the only comments that should be restricted are the ones against TOS.

What is TOS?

Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:50 pm

qsauntiem wrote:It's formatting weird and I couldn't copy/paste, but this is in response to littlemissmuffett.

I agree, their looks and to a certain extent their behavior, are (for me) off limits and something I won't touch with a 10 foot pole. The girls have zero responsibility here. The only reason they are the way they are is absolutely no limits, no boundaries set by their worthless parents who do nothing but encourage bad behavior. Even Evie's aggressive tendencies, if properly channeled, could be such an asset.

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Completely agree with you. Their behaviour is 100% the result of their parents slack/non-existent parenting techniques and abilities. If they were observant, Evie would be great at competitive sports and they should be getting her started now by getting outside and teaching her some hand-eye co-ordination. It would also have the possible effect of making her less aggressive towards her siblings. This stuff is fine to pass judgement on, but making comments on their worthiness being dependent on their prettiness is just stupid.

Unread post by **CherryBaby** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:56 pm

Sisteroo wrote:
lovethispage wrote:I don’t care if you guys comment on the girls looks. I don’t care if you think they have pig noses, big mouths, wide fat heads, funny looking eyes, or pretty hair. I love to read all comments about anything. We all have different opinions about all kinds of things. I think the only comments that should be restricted are the ones against TOS.
What is TOS?

Terms of service.

Unread post by **justalurker2** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:09 pm

Sisteroo wrote:
justalurker2 wrote:
Howlin17 wrote:What's a refrigerator mother?
A 1950's theory that lack of maternal warmth causes

autism
Lack of maternal warmth can & will mess up a child’s mind and sense of security & feeling loved, but I have to disagree that is causes autism. Autism is something you are born with ..... just my opinion

My daughter's autism is genetic. There are so many kids on my husband's side of the family that is autistic, it has to be genetic. She's the only female with autism in the family though.

Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:10 pm

CherryBaby wrote:
littlemissmuffet123 wrote:I have to say, I think that Scarlett and Evie have the potential to be quite pretty.
It's too bad they will grow up to have Bison's figure and eating habits.
Isn’t it funny how we all see things differently. I have never thought the bigger twins were remotely cute. Their faces are too big, noses too small and looks like a pig snout and the have oversized mouths even for their big faces. They have great hair though and pretty eyes except occasionally when Evie appears to have a demon look in hers

Yes, this! I agree about the Heavies, their looks are not cute nor pretty. Snout for a nose, yup. Thank you for mentioning this. I don't even feel guilty for saying that. It's the truth at least.
I do see indie and esme as the prettier of the FF. I think a lot of jealousy will emerge from the 2 heavies as the teenage years approach.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]

I'm all for bitching about the parents and their inability to parent. But there is absolutely no need to criticise whether their girls are cute or not and passing judgement on their prettiness. Yes, you may not believe that they are cute or what have you, but there is still no need to be publicly commenting on it. They are children. They are not the ones causing the problems in their lives. Blast the parents all you want, but those girls are innocent in this. I am honestly appalled with what you have all been saying, I'm sure you'd love it if a whole bunch of people ridiculed your children on their looks. If this occurred in public you would be a bully. Grow up![/quote]

We've had this come up before. The quote above was not mine, but whoever said it has every right to say what she feels on this board. Has it ever occurred to you, Miss Muffett, that sometimes we get a little overly snarky because we are trying to give the Greedners a reason to take their FF out of the public eye? Most people would shut their internet presence down so incredibly fast if their kids' looks were being criticized online that it would make your head spin. So, it's the two Greedner Asses that are bullying their children by putting their every move out there for the world to see.
So we don't need to be told what we can and can't say on here, or be lectured. Thanks and have a nice day.[/quote]

I seem to be having issues with quoting other posts, so hopefully it works this time. All I am saying is that there is no need to criticise how the girls look. They cannot control that, sure, maybe later in life, but that is not our problem or something that needs to be worried about. I believe it is wrong to pass judgement on how four two year olds look. Their level of "beauty" has nothing to do with their behaviour or their parents ability at parenting them. To some extent, it is the same as reducing their worthiness down to how look on the outside, rather than who they are on the inside. To say that you are trying to be of service to the Gardners in getting them to stop putting their girls over the internet is a very poor excuse. Clearly they will keep doing it as long as they want, their is essentially no stopping them, they're too mindless to think of the well-being of their girls. Be the bigger person and respect that these girls have no say in what is being broadcast to the world, I'm sure when they're older they will be extremely pissed at their parents for what they're doing. In the meantime, we, the viewers, are perfectly capable of not stooping to a level where we berate 2 year olds on their attractiveness.

Unread post by **OldCountry** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:34 pm

I personally did keep away from 'attacking' the girls looks etc. at the beginning..but when their behavior started to become their personality and their looks, different story.. The parents allowed the comments to happen and let the comments continue. If I had those comments coming forward towards my children, I would have stopped the filming right away....They saw the attacks and allowed it.. To answer anyone's questions... Yes it is their fault with what is going on with their four two year olds, but they are not correcting it. So I guess my point is, we are just trying to get their attention to fix things...it is only concern for the girls.. Wishing for the best...

Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:41 pm

CherryBaby wrote:
Sisteroo wrote:
lovethispage wrote:I don’t care if you guys comment on the girls looks. I don’t care if you think they have pig noses, big mouths, wide fat heads, funny looking eyes, or pretty hair. I love to read all comments about anything. We all have different opinions about all kinds of things. I think the only comments that should be restricted are the ones against TOS.
What is TOS?
Terms of service.

Meaning rules of this website. The obvious ones such as calling CPS and then coming on here and boasting about it are easy to find. The other rules you really have to search for.

Unread post by **Imsorrybut** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:41 pm

The greedners are asking their fans to pick which girl should get which outfit for those over the top cheesy Santa photos that loni does. Nothing like celebrating the true meaning of Christmas!

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Unread post by **lovethispage** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:48 pm

CherryBaby wrote:
We've had this come up before. The quote above was not mine, but whoever said it has every right to say what she feels on this board. Has it ever occurred to you, Miss Muffett, that sometimes we get a little overly snarky because we are trying to give the Greedners a reason to take their FF out of the public eye? Most people would shut their internet presence down so incredibly fast if their kids' looks were being criticized online that it would make your head spin. So, it's the two Greedner Asses that are bullying their children by putting their every move out there for the world to see.
So we don't need to be told what we can and can't say on here, or be lectured. Thanks and have a nice day.

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