C&K: The Struggle is Real...ly Hard to Relate (Part 14)

[askeptichere]

I wonder what it’s going to take for them to throw in the towel? Their attitudes suck.


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Yep. Katie could have live streamed too, but I agree she is taking on too much. C&K used to be held to a higher standard, but I really don't see where that is the case anymore. I don't think people are being hard on them, I actually think they get far more passes than other vloggers would.

It isn't that they skipped a Livestream, but as someone else said, how dismissive C was about its. He has such an "off" attitude lately, that he just isn't fun to watch anymore. He can be so much better.... and has been! I find it hard to watch someone basically take their good fortune for granted.

They get many more passes than other vloggers. These are the same people who left their two year old in the car during a storm while they sat down to a family dinner. If anyone one else had done that several people would have called child protective services. There's always an excuse for them. It's probably why they feel like it's okay to waste their viewers time. I'm sure the next time they live stream, there will be people won't bother to watch or care.

I think they're already on the path that will make most people skip the live streams. So far they've had the opportunity to do 3.
First one they had a terrible internet connection, and the video wasn't even watchable.
Second was a "Q&A" where they activated super chat, spent 90% of it giving shoutouts, and only answering 2 actual questions.
Third they didn't even do because they didn't feel like it.

I don't know why anyone would even waste their time watching a livestream from them. They better make #4 a good one, or they might as well just skip a day entirely.

[lmmomSD]

I'm a little peeved at the arrogance/dismissiveness as well, but more than anything, I'm kind of....worried about them? I know this has been discussed for a while now, but I really do think that something is up with Cullen - something bigger than just being "fed up." Whatever is going on, I really do hope they/he can work through/past it, for the kids' sake more than anything.

However, that being said, a part of me can't help but view it as attention seeking. I mean, duh, they attention seek for a living so I'm not sure why I'm so hesitant to say/think this. But I just know that personally, if I'm really struggling with something, I'm not going to hint toward the fact that something's wrong if I don't actually want to/plan to share... But I know, I know, everyone deals with things differently. It just makes it kind of hard to feel sympathetic when I can't help but question the motives behind Cullen seemingly asking for it. It seems like he wants people to ask "what's wrong?"

It's kind of a double edged sword at the same time, though. If they are going through a hard time and just put on a brave face, they would be accused of being fake and phony (e.g, E+J). But maybe they don't want to be completely open with whatever is going on (which completely is their prerogative), but don't want to be fake happy at the same time, so it comes off as attention seeking. I don't know... I feel like I'm just rambling now, lol, but I just can't make up my mind about how I feel about the whole thing.

(Side Note: I think I'm failing miserably at the point I'm trying to get across, so bless you if you actually read/understood this post...haha)

I get your point. Even if they had said, "It's been a long day, and we aren't up to doing a live stream", there would be speculation.

The thing about them being their own boss and having the prerogative to not upload, is that at this point, it seems like they're very dependent on audience good will and uploading every day. Someone on Roman Atwood's level has so much money and so many subscribers, that skipping a day or two and maybe losing a few subscribers isn't going to hurt him. But Cullen and Katie are just scraping by. They need the audience to want to watch. Maybe Cullen resents that, but it's reality. And if he doesn't wake up soon, they're really going to tank.

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[lmmomSD]

Yep. Katie could have live streamed too, but I agree she is taking on too much. C&K used to be held to a higher standard, but I really don't see where that is the case anymore. I don't think people are being hard on them, I actually think they get far more passes than other vloggers would.

It isn't that they skipped a Livestream, but as someone else said, how dismissive C was about its. He has such an "off" attitude lately, that he just isn't fun to watch anymore. He can be so much better.... and has been! I find it hard to watch someone basically take their good fortune for granted.

They get many more passes than other vloggers. These are the same people who left their two year old in the car during a storm while they sat down to a family dinner. If anyone one else had done that several people would have called child protective services. There's always an excuse for them. It's probably why they feel like it's okay to waste their viewers time. I'm sure the next time they live stream, there will be people won't bother to watch or care.

Exactly, also driving in a golf cart with two young children on busy streets. I also noticed they went for a little drive in Jay's new car without a car seat for Gaines. You know he was driving around the neighborhood to show them the car. So dangerous. They forget that accidents happen in neighborhoods too, especially with all the blind spots and curves.

Most accidents happen within a few miles of the home anyway. "Just driving around the neighborhood" is just as dangerous as driving farther away.

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[auntasaurus19]

I feel like for the longest time when Cullen began vlogging full-time, Katie treated him like he had a "real job" and told him how hard he worked on the vlogs, how creative he was, etc. For example, when he got his first MacBook vlog - it was like over-the-top how complimentary she was of how "hard" he works on the vlogs. It seemed like she didn't mind treating vlogging like it was a full-time job because she was capable of handling most things house-related and newborn Gaines-related on her own.

I always felt like he used editing the vlog as an excuse to fiddle fart around for a few hours. My guess is he still expects to spend a few hours editing the vlog but she's become resentful about it because she needs more help and support now. Just like most people that have multiple children, your "work" doesn't end when you get home from work and he needs to step up and help more.

When it comes down to it, I think they're both lazy but the majority of the weight for day to day goings on at their home falls on Katie's shoulders while he "works" on the vlog. IMO, he should be much more efficient at editing now and it really shouldn't take that long.

[wishes]

Trying on the Halloween costume masks/heads make me cringe with the possibility of lice, blegh! I also enjoyed Target Balling but I can see him not caring about that as well for the long haul.

I agree with you playsinrain with everything you said, like I don't care if they don't upload a vlog or livestream but the fact he was nonchalant about it when they usually thank their fans was disheartening.

I do think Cullen is having an internal battle over something but that's what happens when you put your life out for all to see... people notice things aren't right and begin questioning. Sure hope whatever is going on with them, they work it out.

[HelloSweetie]

Cullen did the Targetballing 365 days straight and never missed a day right? How was he able to be so creative with that, and has become so flakey with YT. Makes no sense to me. The time he spent crafting and working on a lot of the TB costumes had to amount to more work than he's putting in editing everyday. It's not like he's busier than the used to be. Even with two kids, isn't he less busy?

[askeptichere]

Brooks was terrified of those plush heads. And they wouldn't stop! I understand trying to expose him to things that scare him, but that was over the top. It never should have gone that far.

And I'm probably the only one, but it drives me crazy that they treat that golf course as their own personal playground.

[lmmomSD]

Trying on the Halloween costume masks/heads make me cringe with the possibility of lice, blegh! I also enjoyed Target Balling but I can see him not caring about that as well for the long haul.

I agree with you playsinrain with everything you said, like I don't care if they don't upload a vlog or livestream but the fact he was nonchalant about it when they usually thank their fans was disheartening.

I do think Cullen is having an internal battle over something but that's what happens when you put your life out for all to see... people notice things aren't right and begin questioning. Sure hope whatever is going on with them, they work it out.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one grossed out by people vlogging themselves trying on masks. It just makes me feel skeevy. You don't know who's tried it on before you, and I wouldn't want a mask that had Cullen's sweaty head in it either.
And Brooks is one. It's ok for him to be afraid of masks for a little while longer. It's not like it's impacting his life. I don't understand why they insist on "confronting his fears". He's one year old. Of course he's afraid of masks. Jeez.
And no, you're not the only one bugged by them playing on the golf course. I am sure it's against the rules, and people who pay a lot of money to belong to the golf club probably don't appreciate it either.
But they're special. Rules don't apply to them.
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[marshmallowfluf]

These youtubers seem to think that moving into their dream home will change their whole lives and make them better people, but they are still the same lazy people they were before. Katie used to say that when they moved she would be more organized LOL

I think she is more organized, at least i thought she was. The kitchen is WAY less cluttered than it used to be, the whole house really. Yeah the play room is a mess most days, but who's isn't. It's funny bc i was watching old vlogs and thinking about how people hated their cluttered kitchen and thinking about how they have done a good job at not letting it get that way at the new house.

I was just trying to say that it is ridiculous to think that moving into a new house will change your personality traits. If she wants to be an organized person thats great, but she could have done that in the old house too.

[Lovethesnark]

Cullen did the Targetballing 365 days straight and never missed a day right? How was he able to be so creative with that, and has become so flakey with YT. Makes no sense to me. The time he spent crafting and working on a lot of the TB costumes had to amount to more work than he's putting in editing everyday. It's not like he's busier than the used to be. Even with two kids, isn't he less busy?

He didn't go take a pic everyday. He would plan ahead sometimes and take more than one pic. He thought targetballing would lead to some type of sponsorship with Target or turn into a viral craze. He and Katie were upset when it didn't turn into anything major. It was time consuming. Katie even complained about it. He certainly wasn't any less busy then. It was stupid, but at least did provide some vlog content. It forced him to be creative.

[menehune]

C&K are no different from Bryan and Missy, E&J and all the other vloggers that start staying at home and just become bored and lazy. People used to expect that this wouldn't happen to Katie because she was better educated and therefor not as lazy, or likely to sell out her children for a fancy home.

Then they bought a fancy home while their channel numbers were trending downward

[Playsinrain]

Props to them for letting the kids (well Gaines anyway, Brooks doesn't care lol) pick out what they want to be for Halloween and not pushing them to be something they don't want to be just for vlog footage. It stood out to me that Katie was sayig *if* they wanted to do a family costume they could be zookeepers. They are working their costumes off what the KIDS want to be, which is exactly how it should be. Take some hints Bryan and Missy, Halloween is about you KIDS and what THEY want to be and do, it's not about you or your desire to be an actor in a poorly written YT skit.

[lmmomSD]

It was kinda sad that Gaines was waiting for her "cue". She didn't know just to high five Cullen. Shows how much they script her.
And how does burgundy coordinate with blue and orange?
I'm sorry. Cullen dancing in that unicorn mask wasn't attractive. At all.

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[wishes]

Cullen did the Targetballing 365 days straight and never missed a day right? How was he able to be so creative with that, and has become so flakey with YT. Makes no sense to me. The time he spent crafting and working on a lot of the TB costumes had to amount to more work than he's putting in editing everyday. It's not like he's busier than the used to be. Even with two kids, isn't he less busy?

He didn't go take a pic everyday. He would plan ahead sometimes and take more than one pic. He thought targetballing would lead to some type of sponsorship with Target or turn into a viral craze. He and Katie were upset when it didn't turn into anything major. It was time consuming. Katie even complained about it. He certainly wasn't any less busy then. It was stupid, but at least did provide some vlog content. It forced him to be creative.

I believe the only time he planned ahead to do a Target ball picture was for Gaines' birth and if they were in Tuscaloosa, they would find a Target there and do it then. They did make the local papers about TB'ing but I think they wanted to be on Ellen which it takes A LOT to be on that show.

It's your opinion to think it was stupid, I for one thought it was great and allowed them to be creative. Also allowed their viewers to give them ideas.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

The target balling was great, it was creative and unique and forced him out of the house and off the computer for a little while at least. I think the lack of structure and responsibilities plays a HUGE role in why theyre so lazy.

[FitMom]

The target balling was great, it was creative and unique and forced him out of the house and off the computer for a little while at least. I think the lack of structure and responsibilities plays a HUGE role in why theyre so lazy.

I agree, I loved the target balling. It was fun to see some of the things he came up with.

[Caisflame]

Anyone think some marital issues or divide could be coming from his sister being back on the scene? Just wondering.

I have been getting a VERY different vibe from the vlogs since the day they first vlogged his sister when she got out. I'm sure Katie has some difficulties with her being around the kids, and it's understandable tbh. Especially if she should get back into drugs and go to jail again, it's hard to introduce your kids to someone, spend time with them, and then have them suddenly disappear.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

Anyone think some marital issues or divide could be coming from his sister being back on the scene? Just wondering.

I have been getting a VERY different vibe from the vlogs since the day they first vlogged his sister when she got out. I'm sure Katie has some difficulties with her being around the kids, and it's understandable tbh. Especially if she should get back into drugs and go to jail again, it's hard to introduce your kids to someone, spend time with them, and then have them suddenly disappear.

And especially when you consider she doesn't seem to have changed much. I know we see such a small amount of her but she's been seen joking about growing weed....

[freshbalsam]

I’m sure it’s frustrating for Cullen to see other people’s YT channels take off. But what does he expect? He does the bare minimum! He repeats the same movie scenes all the time, the same sayings, he’ll find an idea and roll with it 24/7 for 2 weeks straight. I don’t care if they take 3 weeks off vlogging or not, it’s about the way they go about things and how they say it. Does he think people are success on YT out of luck? Maybe they get a lot of subscribers for whatever reason, but to maintain that audience is a whole different ball game. Big channels don’t tweet disregarding and rude tweets or push their work aside like “live stream soon.. whatevs” and “nah not feeling it tonight”. Honestly, the only new content worth watching typically comes from Katie when she takes the kids places or runs errands.


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[workfromhomemom]

Why do you guys think Cullen is frustrated about other's YouTube success? Cullen is extremely supportive of other Youtubers (from what I have observed) and often links and shouts out other channels etc. I have never seen him appear envious of other successes.