Wow, if this is all true that is real shit. I'm a midwife in Australia. We have to go to university and get our Bachelor of Midwifery which is taught parallel to the Nursing degree. The clinicals are just different towards the end of the degree, and some requirements like following pregnancies, etc. Midwives here work with the woman, take responsibility for the birth WITH the woman. They make decisions together not for each other. Midwives deliver babies in public hospitals here, and OBs are around but not necessary unless the mother or bub is considered high risk. This wouldn't have happened in Australia. Im from California originally, and moved to Australia and I associated midwives to hippies and uneducated witches lol. Then with my first pregnancy I saw a midwife as per public medicare system. That pregnancy ended in our first son who was stillborn at 40w9d. It was for "medically unknown" reasons as we didn't want an autopsy, though blood tests were done and clear of genetic issues. I know that in the US, t be a certified midwife, you dont need a degree, but you need to pass a few tests. Which it's completely amature in my opinion. Tests are hard, but nothing like a 3-4 year university education. My friends and family in the US see me as that kind of midwife unfortunately, they dont understand that Canadian, GB and AU midwives are far more professional and educated than in the US.
Anyway, caster oil would NEVER be advised professionally. I had one mother ask about it, and I advised nipple stimulation and walking. Missy sounded desperate to have a VBAC and that's such a huge decision, and at the hospital I work at, women are supported with that decision, but are advised every-single-appointment- that a VBAC may not happen, and that they should be aware that if the bubba is in distress or in labour for an unsafe period of time (like Finn!) an OB would do an emergency c-section. Hospital policy is to prepare women with the idea that VBAC may not work. We support them through the decision, do what we can, if it works out thats great if it doesn't they are at least prepared. Missy was in complete denial and I have never said it about anyone but she was completely selfish in the last moments of labor with Finn. She would have definitely had PPD afterwards, maybe still, as she was devastated with the outcome of her desired labour. I get it, I see it all the time. It's a natural feeling that is separate from the love you have for the child you birthed. (thats a separate topic which we know through how she treats Finn).[/quote]Where did you hear that to be a certified midwife in the US that you don't need a degree? You need a BSN, to pass the RN, and advanced training-- you need a Master's degree. And _then_ you take the exams. You definitely need a degree.
It doesn't apply to Missy's situation, because she was at UCSD, which only works with CNM's, but in rural areas, you get these back country midwives, like the Duggar women try to be, and they can really screw things up. Some of them are great, but I saw some scary things working in PICU in Texas.
Personal, sort of: This one baby was a VBAC home birth,(which most certified midwives wouldn't want to do) and they had to do CPR on him when he was born. Didn't call 911. "Midwife" gave them potassium supplements and Bach Flower Rescue Remedy for him! They brought him to the ER a week later with neonatal sepsis. We saved him, but I wonder if he had any long term problems.
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Im happy to be educated on how midwives get certified in the US. I didnt know that. I'm from California, but haven't been living there in 10 years, and only hear what older midwives say around work before I took maternity leave and what I heard at uni. I know that I opted to continue midwifery rather than nursing, where if I went to the US i'd be recognised as an RN, but I'm not interested in moving back, so here I am.. lol But really everything I watched with what was happening with Missy during Finn's birth, doesn't sound professional AT ALL on the midwife's part at all.[/quote]I hope I didn't sound snarky. I didn't mean it that way!
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You didnt at all
I dont mind being corrected and admit when Im wrong.
Remember Airplanegate? Same thing 
