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Itsjusrme wrote:So one difference between them and busbys. Busbys have fan pages that they don’t want and everytime they find one they block it so they can’t get ahold of pictures and such. And are willing to take legal action against people stealing their videos. The Gardner’s have one or two I believe and if I’m not mistaken when they commented on one of the live feeds Tyson went on and on how he thought it was so cool that they had a fan page.
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They have a few fans that use the Quads as profile pictures on Facebook. That is creepy, weird and odd as shit.
Night lady wrote:Ashley is so different when she's by herself, without Tyson there. She's almost a human being and a mom.
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She's been living up to his expectations since she was 13. I cannot imagine meeting adult husband as a child and not having a chance to form your own person. Probably why she acts 13 she's stuck. As much as I don't like her she seems codependent [I'm not diagnosing her promise] while also seeming relived when he's not around. Maybe she's sick of him and would like him to go back to work. If Tyson built up her confidence - you can take care of your kids on your own - then he'd actually have to get a job. Mr I groomed a 13 year old child I wonder what he says to her about her parenting because while it's all sunshine and rainbows when they're on social media I wonder if he feeds into her lack of confidence as a parent.
I was pleasantly surprised by her today. She interacted and spoke correctly to her girls. Except for mommamade. There is an immature side to her still, for sure. Really does make you think daddy and scummy boyfriend/hubby stiffled her growing up. Maybe Ty boy is still a controlling, do as I want and you’ll be my princess always, man is head of house, creeper...more than we can imagine? Perhaps she is indeed tired of him, his creepiness, sloppiness, weight gain, controlling behaviors; maybe it’s him she needs time away from? Perhaps HE doesn’t like her to go places and do things without his presence? Now I wonder what he is truly like when the camera is off. If he has controlled her for all these years and now has 4 other “princesses” to control (because they are girls and he’s the man of the house) would that not cause her to want to get away from it all? She bagged on his hair...again. She wasn’t all baby talk and screeching. She actually interacted well with the girls today I thought. Maybe she is learning she can be a strong woman (considering she makes all the money) and perhaps doesn’t have to act like a needy little girl all the time? After all, she never really had the chance to be a teenager and go through everything teens 13 - 18 do, because he was always in touch with her to some extent. He probably told her he was the one to be her husband when she was 13, so she never really gave anyone else a chance. He controlled her then by the dream of her prince and why else would someone that old want her unless he really, truly loved her and wanted to treat her like a queen? Well, I think we all can see who takes care of who and who the true queen is, can’t we? Hopefully she is seeing this. Seeing she doesn’t need him to take care of her anymore...or the girls; that she is making the money and they would be fine without them. Maybe he is why his mom and Madison don’t speak up? CONTROL FREAK as the “man” in his moms life? They aren’t allowed? Is her daddy the same towards his wife and girls? Could be? Maybe he was a weird, whinny, “I’m not going to play” baby at that party because he sees her starting to want her independence; having fun without him. Is he really the one keeping the girls “babies” and holding them back...because he knows they will not like him controlling them soon enough? Thinking about the first year with the girls...I remember him calling them beautiful all the time more than her. I think he also started all the “do you love it?” Like none of “his girls” are capable of having their own thoughts. After today’s vlog, I’m more ticked at and disgusted by him than her. I hope she truly does want the best for her girls, has had enough, has seen through Bingham’s and Reveli’s what a good marriage is like - non controlling hubby’s who actually work and provide for their families, not lead their girls around on leashes like helpless puppies. Notice it was HIS friends who acted like middle school kids. Wow. My mind is wondering about what really goes on in that house now. If it is HIM holding each of the girls and Ashley back, I seriously hope she wakes up SOON and tells him, his nasty hair and sloppy ass to hit the road. I really would like to see her loving and teaching those girls the way she did their first year. Remember, she was the one who read to them, got on the floor with them, etc. If I had to deal with that creepy jerk 24/7, I would probably pull away and hide in bed as well. I’m guessing she is also dealing with some depression. I hope she sees she has the power to make her and her girls life better by putting a stop to his living off them, doing absolutely nothing, but controlling their every move because he’s the man, and finding the inner strength to put her girls first. I really was proud of her mothering today. SO much better than it has been in a long time. The difference? Jerk wad wasn’t there. Interesting.
She only had to deal with 3 for the baking part.....and, of course, Ashley the employee was there for who knows how long.
A 30 yr. old woman surely knows how to not smack her lips while drinking from a cup. But, Perv thinks it's funny or cute....so keep it up, princess. Make sure your FF do it, also.
I really cringe at the new multiples family in Utah -- Five Two Love. The expectant mother seems much more mature than Ashley, and I wonder why she's choosing this public persona. What happened to wanting a safe, comfortable, closed-knit family? Why does everything have to be filmed and shared with complete strangers the world over, people criticizing your choices, discussing your kids' looks, making fun of things you might hold dear? Nope. Just like the Greedners, the dollar signs flash. I don't know if the Scott family will vlog everyday, but they are begging for followers on Facebook and we've seen Assley start down that path.
We have plenty of fodder on the Greedners. Kids eating at the table standing up, biting each other, throwing food on the floor, purposefully mispronouncing words to generate laughs on YouTube. I believe that things started going downhill after the pantry video last January. They immediately started staging things, like the cheerios all over the floor, the baby powder in the hallway, the perfect little Desitin lips on Evie. Not as cringeworthy as their Pokémon Go video the year before, but still pretty obvious. Things have gotten all about their production and I bet when they get a cute, genuine moment together as parent and child, the first thought that will happen will be regret that the camera aren't rolling.
I haven't watched a vlog in a while because they are boring and predictable and rage-inducing. Tyass pronounces words wrong like "yogi", "snooty", "mancakes", "lemonlaide" or the new fake one "momalaide." The girls get presents and Ty shouts, "What did you getttttt?!!!" which only teaches greed and materialism and entitlement. They reinforce how good and yummy and happy junk food is, rather than treating it like a rarity and praising healthy food instead. Juice instead of water all the time. Tubbs said in one of the vlogs I binged on today: "We have to make sure everybody's bellies are satisfied when they're here." Who says that? Wouldn't you just want your guests to feel comfortable first before doling out treats like the candy man all the time? He's bribing the girls with treats and food to be the favorite parent.
When Assley talks to them, she is so condescending in her baby voice and high-pitched squeal. Didn't you all hate when people talked down to you and treated you like a child while you were growing up? It made you resentful that whatever adult was talking to you as if you were stupid. Esme points to an ice cream flavor she wants and rather than Assley saying normal, "oh, that's bubblegum flavor, my favorite," she squeals and draws out a painful-sounding, "Do you want the pink one?!" She's not 8 months old! Treat these 3-year-olds with some respect!
I watched yesterday's vlog. What the heck did they do all day? Esme is still napping while it's dark out. My feeling is that they lock them in their tents at about 1 or 2 and let them cry it out until eventually they fall asleep an hour or two later. They probably spend 3-4 hours in their tents in the middle of the day. I feel so bad for those girls. Mine stopped napping right at three, and they go all day full of energy and happiness and normal family life. Then the girls have to watch the vlog of themselves, I think so Assley has an excuse to see Branden a few times without Tyass getting suspicious. Why can't those girls do an activity everyday? So they took all those bench pictures, and now they have to sit on the couch and spend the day watching pictures of them sitting. So boring.
I think what happens is that Tyass and Assley need to stop thinking of themselves as something the quads happened to -- T$A have to change them and feed the girls and play with them while still fitting in their much-deserved date nights and time away; they narrate everything for the camera, try to fit in a nap while the girls are napping like they're so overworked and tired, pay for everything times 4 egads. They need to see the girls as something they are going through life with, and the girls have rights in their family because they are their own human beings. Maybe I'm not saying it right. It happened to me, right after my girls turned one and my mom said I survived the first year. That's when I realized that I was thinking of myself and how my girls were affecting me, rather than thinking of us all going through life together and my girls had to survive me. I better stop, it made so much more sense in my head.
The moment esme realizes that she will have to fight the heavy to get her spot back; mentioned here earlier.
lol I think this is reaching a bit. From what I've noticed I'm pretty sure the girls have their own spaces at the island. On the fridge side it's always Barley, Indie & Esme and around the corner on the end it's Evie.
Yea the vlog today was weird, it had a different vibe. Like if I stumbled across this today, as my first experience of them I'd probably like them again. I thought Indie at the beginning was adorable & thought Ashley making banana bread with the girls was cute. The hide & seek was cute. Idk maybe it was the lack of Tyson or the lesser amount of whining the girls did lol
So whats your story ImShookHunnay?
I see you have commented on the Binghams and Logan Paul and Shaytards and Domo (whoever the flock that is, not a person related to this page) and the atwood family (again - wrong page).
Previous posts you did an 'lol' at CanYouDancing - doubting her story about the FB group - saying you are from the 'secret group'; you enjoy the secret group and you don't watch any of the Greedners pages.
You doubt the conversation about exchanged glances in this post, you believe the ff have assigned seats. Previously you spoke up to agree with the greedners that the mouse was a toy; that you 'wouldn't say anything here or on FB about the Greedners that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to them in person'
You seem to have shown up when this page was locked down; full of questions about whether anyone reported the Flocktards saying that you say nothing. Yet a day or so earlier you said "The lady I talked to at Minky was very attentive to what I told her, and hinted that there was some kind of issue with the Greedners." So - you yourself broke the rules of this group? Then you question Snarkadoodle, if Marylou Weisenberger, Leslie and/or Whitney, and "Joni" are liars and crooks, too... Fishing much?
I just wanted to welcome you to my personal blocked list. Grab yourself a nice cold drink at the koolaid stand on the way out the door.
The moment esme realizes that she will have to fight the heavy to get her spot back; mentioned here earlier.
lol I think this is reaching a bit. From what I've noticed I'm pretty sure the girls have their own spaces at the island. On the fridge side it's always Barley, Indie & Esme and around the corner on the end it's Evie.
Yea the vlog today was weird, it had a different vibe. Like if I stumbled across this today, as my first experience of them I'd probably like them again. I thought Indie at the beginning was adorable & thought Ashley making banana bread with the girls was cute. The hide & seek was cute. Idk maybe it was the lack of Tyson or the lesser amount of whining the girls did lol
So whats your story ImShookHunnay?
I see you have commented on the Binghams and Logan Paul and Shaytards and Domo (whoever the flock that is, not a person related to this page) and the atwood family (again - wrong page).
Previous posts you did an 'lol' at CanYouDancing - doubting her story about the FB group - saying you are from the 'secret group'; you enjoy the secret group and you don't watch any of the Greedners pages.
You doubt the conversation about exchanged glances in this post, you believe the ff have assigned seats. Previously you spoke up to agree with the greedners that the mouse was a toy; that you 'wouldn't say anything here or on FB about the Greedners that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to them in person'
You seem to have shown up when this page was locked down; full of questions about whether anyone reported the Flocktards saying that you say nothing. Yet a day or so earlier you said "The lady I talked to at Minky was very attentive to what I told her, and hinted that there was some kind of issue with the Greedners." So - you yourself broke the rules of this group? Then you question Snarkadoodle, if Marylou Weisenberger, Leslie and/or Whitney, and "Joni" are liars and crooks, too... Fishing much?
I just wanted to welcome you to my personal blocked list. Grab yourself a nice cold drink at the koolaid stand on the way out the door.
Night lady wrote:Try this again: [image of "what is a durl" conversation (the web would not let me quote the image)]
lol. This might help:
durls
pronounced dwerlz
1) feral four
adjective
resembling wild animals
synonyms: wild, untamed, untamable, undomesticated, untrained
2) cash cows
noun, informal
a business, investment, or product that provides a steady income or profit.
I can't remember who came up with "feral four". Sheer genius.
I too liked seeing Trashley at least attempting to engage with the girls more, and also found her different without Tyson... she seemed somehow a bit less fake, if that makes sense? I'm not going to white knight her as much as some of you are, but I do think their marriage (and obviously the way they met with her being just a child) is soooo problematic. Still wish she would talk "with" the girls more and not at them or just repeating things they say, and really really push and encourage for clear prounounciation by having them repeat words that aren't possible to understand. A bit embarassing though that a friend came over to "hang out" (her words) and it seemed the friend was cleaning the entire time.. I would not let my friends come over to have out and then allow or expect them to clean, even if they offered, unless it was right after giving birth or I was truly seriously ill or debilitated (broken bone or similar).
I don't get the running around in the upstairs hallway thing, but I think it again goes to show the poor planning of the house and lack of thought for the girl's needs. It's cute and okay now for them to run upstairs while they are still fairly little and can't do severe damage by pushing each other. But teaching them it's OK to run upstairs/in the house will not be good as they get bigger, older, louder, rougher etc etc. An upstairs playroom where they could have put that bouncy thing, a small trampoline and other things would have been so great. Or even an open family room/loft type area like what they had at their old rental in the upstairs area. But no, with this layout of the house and lack of a playroom except the basement the girls have to run out their energy by going up and down the hallways. I am guessing that jumpy thing has been moved downstairs to the basement and although it would be great for getting their energy out, Trashley probably doesn't want to go upstairs, put their PJs on and then have to take them all the way down to the basement to get their beans out before bed.
I'm hoping the girls haven't been down in the basement due to all the hazards: falling bookcase, exposed electrical wiring, fiberglass insulation inhalation, etc.
The moment esme realizes that she will have to fight the heavy to get her spot back; mentioned here earlier.
lol I think this is reaching a bit. From what I've noticed I'm pretty sure the girls have their own spaces at the island. On the fridge side it's always Barley, Indie & Esme and around the corner on the end it's Evie.
Yea the vlog today was weird, it had a different vibe. Like if I stumbled across this today, as my first experience of them I'd probably like them again. I thought Indie at the beginning was adorable & thought Ashley making banana bread with the girls was cute. The hide & seek was cute. Idk maybe it was the lack of Tyson or the lesser amount of whining the girls did lol
So whats your story ImShookHunnay?
I see you have commented on the Binghams and Logan Paul and Shaytards and Domo (whoever the flock that is, not a person related to this page) and the atwood family (again - wrong page).
Previous posts you did an 'lol' at CanYouDancing - doubting her story about the FB group - saying you are from the 'secret group'; you enjoy the secret group and you don't watch any of the Greedners pages.
You doubt the conversation about exchanged glances in this post, you believe the ff have assigned seats. Previously you spoke up to agree with the greedners that the mouse was a toy; that you 'wouldn't say anything here or on FB about the Greedners that I wouldn't feel comfortable saying to them in person'
You seem to have shown up when this page was locked down; full of questions about whether anyone reported the Flocktards saying that you say nothing. Yet a day or so earlier you said "The lady I talked to at Minky was very attentive to what I told her, and hinted that there was some kind of issue with the Greedners." So - you yourself broke the rules of this group? Then you question Snarkadoodle, if Marylou Weisenberger, Leslie and/or Whitney, and "Joni" are liars and crooks, too... Fishing much?
I just wanted to welcome you to my personal blocked list. Grab yourself a nice cold drink at the koolaid stand on the way out the door.
Ahh I love that because I don't agree with all your opinions I'm automatically someone to be suspicious of? lol And then, because you're so mature you've blocked me so I can't even response to your questioning. Well since I am mature & I don't seek out drama I will answer for the other lovely ladies here
Commenting on the Binghams here isn't something out of the normal if you've noticed, other people do to. I don't watch them, happened to, saw Hazy has a mattress on the floor like her besties. The comment here about Shaytards was in response to what someone else said as was the Logan Paul comment. If you payed attention me talking about Domo & Crissy and Britney Smith were on their respected threads lol
Yes I said I thought the "mouse" was a toy in agreement with someone who said the same thing, are you going to call them out too? Yes I did say I liked the secret group because I have nothing to hide. If I have an opinion about them then I wouldn't care if they saw.
Also I'm not sure you did all your digging correctly, because I responded to a post where someone said they called Minky saying I could never do that because I have a phonephobia when it comes to calling people I don't know lol I also don't remember questioning Snark about anyone? lol
Sad I should feel the need to "defend" myself because I don't agree with everyones opinions on everything? From what I've seen various ppl have different opinions yet I'm the only one called out for it? Doesn't seem fair. Wtf are you so paranoid about? lol My first post here was in thread 13, not when the board was locked down. So no, I am not a KAD, I don't much care for koolaid anyways, I think the Gardners are idiots & don't appreciate the miracles they have when people struggle, can't have or worst of all have lost a child (like I have, want to speculate who I am on FB sissies?) Anyhoo, hopefully that settles it.
girlielove wrote:I really cringe at the new multiples family in Utah -- Five Two Love. The expectant mother seems much more mature than Ashley, and I wonder why she's choosing this public persona. What happened to wanting a safe, comfortable, closed-knit family? Why does everything have to be filmed and shared with complete strangers the world over, people criticizing your choices, discussing your kids' looks, making fun of things you might hold dear? Nope. Just like the Greedners, the dollar signs flash. I don't know if the Scott family will vlog everyday, but they are begging for followers on Facebook and we've seen Assley start down that path.
We have plenty of fodder on the Greedners. Kids eating at the table standing up, biting each other, throwing food on the floor, purposefully mispronouncing words to generate laughs on YouTube. I believe that things started going downhill after the pantry video last January. They immediately started staging things, like the cheerios all over the floor, the baby powder in the hallway, the perfect little Desitin lips on Evie. Not as cringeworthy as their Pokémon Go video the year before, but still pretty obvious. Things have gotten all about their production and I bet when they get a cute, genuine moment together as parent and child, the first thought that will happen will be regret that the camera aren't rolling.
I haven't watched a vlog in a while because they are boring and predictable and rage-inducing. Tyass pronounces words wrong like "yogi", "snooty", "mancakes", "lemonlaide" or the new fake one "momalaide." The girls get presents and Ty shouts, "What did you getttttt?!!!" which only teaches greed and materialism and entitlement. They reinforce how good and yummy and happy junk food is, rather than treating it like a rarity and praising healthy food instead. Juice instead of water all the time. Tubbs said in one of the vlogs I binged on today: "We have to make sure everybody's bellies are satisfied when they're here." Who says that? Wouldn't you just want your guests to feel comfortable first before doling out treats like the candy man all the time? He's bribing the girls with treats and food to be the favorite parent.
When Assley talks to them, she is so condescending in her baby voice and high-pitched squeal. Didn't you all hate when people talked down to you and treated you like a child while you were growing up? It made you resentful that whatever adult was talking to you as if you were stupid. Esme points to an ice cream flavor she wants and rather than Assley saying normal, "oh, that's bubblegum flavor, my favorite," she squeals and draws out a painful-sounding, "Do you want the pink one?!" She's not 8 months old! Treat these 3-year-olds with some respect!
I watched yesterday's vlog. What the heck did they do all day? Esme is still napping while it's dark out. My feeling is that they lock them in their tents at about 1 or 2 and let them cry it out until eventually they fall asleep an hour or two later. They probably spend 3-4 hours in their tents in the middle of the day. I feel so bad for those girls. Mine stopped napping right at three, and they go all day full of energy and happiness and normal family life. Then the girls have to watch the vlog of themselves, I think so Assley has an excuse to see Branden a few times without Tyass getting suspicious. Why can't those girls do an activity everyday? So they took all those bench pictures, and now they have to sit on the couch and spend the day watching pictures of them sitting. So boring.
I think what happens is that Tyass and Assley need to stop thinking of themselves as something the quads happened to -- T$A have to change them and feed the girls and play with them while still fitting in their much-deserved date nights and time away; they narrate everything for the camera, try to fit in a nap while the girls are napping like they're so overworked and tired, pay for everything times 4 egads. They need to see the girls as something they are going through life with, and the girls have rights in their family because they are their own human beings. Maybe I'm not saying it right. It happened to me, right after my girls turned one and my mom said I survived the first year. That's when I realized that I was thinking of myself and how my girls were affecting me, rather than thinking of us all going through life together and my girls had to survive me. I better stop, it made so much more sense in my head.
Are you on the fb page girlie love? I always love everything you write.
The moment esme realizes that she will have to fight the heavy to get her spot back; mentioned here earlier.
lol I think this is reaching a bit. From what I've noticed I'm pretty sure the girls have their own spaces at the island. On the fridge side it's always Barley, Indie & Esme and around the corner on the end it's Evie.
Yea the vlog today was weird, it had a different vibe. Like if I stumbled across this today, as my first experience of them I'd probably like them again. I thought Indie at the beginning was adorable & thought Ashley making banana bread with the girls was cute. The hide & seek was cute. Idk maybe it was the lack of Tyson or the lesser amount of whining the girls did lol
I don't think it matters where their 'spot/space' is at that island in the kitchen, So what now all of a sudden they 'own' something of their own? Hasn't happened before, it has been a 'free for all' since the beginning...What matters is the sly Evie slid into the chair where Esme was originally before Esme was done crawling on the island to hand out the forks. You could see Esme's return to where she had started and there was the Evie with that look.. Evie knew what she doing.. In the video it showed Esme edging towards the hooded one..then the cut away.. Gee, what does that tell you? I give Esme some credit going forward with that look from the 'hooded one'. That look scared me.
ItIsSunny wrote:At the end of today's vlog, it appeared that Indie is still biting Esme. If that's not outrageous enough, it was left in the vlog as if it's not a big deal. What is the parents' problem with Esme? Looks like her seat is the one out of view in the van now, as well.
They may have to keep Esme in her tent at night just to protect her
I didn't notice it but went back to look for it after your note. Esme's role is heartbreaking.
Those pictures of poor Esme are just heartbreaking, my grandsons went through a phase of biting but they were around 18 months, after a few very harsh correction & a squirt of soap in the mouth it stopped & they are triplets! I’m sorry but at 3 this should not still be happening if in fact they are being corrected off camera!
PollyKrome wrote:Someone in the comments of todays vlog noticed the heavy with a fist to the grains face.
She's pure evil. Autocorrect is right when it changes Evie to Evil. No joke. She's full fist punching her sister in the face.
Then indie biting esme is no better.
Those kids need to be punished immediately. Quit waiting to do it "off camera", which we know doesn't happen anyway.
Someone mentioned earlier that they need a good spanking and I agree. Man oh man, they don't in for a world of problems with the girls.
Saddest thing is that Ashley prob had no clue what was going on here and probably didn’t even catch it when she was editing. So imagine how often this crap happens.
I didn’t watch vlog yet so am speculating. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Where's Jo Frost "Super Nanny" when we need her? She would shape up parents like this and return "evil" acting and appearing children into the curious, fun-loving kids they really are. It is so sad to see children forced into these negative roles by neglectful parents; those kids are survivors.
TLC has an incredible opportunity to match a new generation Super Nanny with YouTube VLOG struggling families.
