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Oh my gosh. I am so happy for them!!! Vera is a beautiful, beautiful baby!
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They are so in love with her. I'm glad there has been no mention of Maeve so far and all their attention seems to be on this lovely little one.[img]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201806 ... 521b40.jpg[/img]
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Back when she ate the ashes I questioned it and she got salty
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I don't know..... I hate to be the one to ruin all the hopes that Joan is going to be a great mom but Joanna post about Vera has an awful lot of "I" in it. I mean, many women have c-sections and don't feel the need to mention they are "tethered to wires". Joan always has to add excessive details for the drama.
I think they are going to be selfish and narcissistic parents just like E&J. Just wait until they get home and discover that parenting is more work and sacrifice than they think.
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^^^ Joan's post. Not Joanna
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hwarner wrote:
Back when she ate the ashes I questioned it and she got salty
Um.... WHAT!?
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You didn't hear about that? They ate some of Maeve's ashes "so she would always be a part of them" . And the local sewage treatment plant.bobloblawslawblog wrote:hwarner wrote:
Back when she ate the ashes I questioned it and she got salty
Um.... WHAT!?
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This still boggles my mind....lmmomSD wrote:You didn't hear about that? They ate some of Maeve's ashes "so she would always be a part of them" . And the local sewage treatment plant.bobloblawslawblog wrote:hwarner wrote:
Back when she ate the ashes I questioned it and she got salty
Um.... WHAT!?
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I think you are doing a disservice to her post (and to the way she's talking about Vera) by compressing it down to her saying that she's "tethered to wires" and making that seem like it's a big deal.She's discussing all the uncomfortable parts that come after-birth (and especially after c-section) and saying she would not rather be anywhere else, in any other circumstance, than with Vera.HelloSweetie wrote:I don't know..... I hate to be the one to ruin all the hopes that Joan is going to be a great mom but Joanna post about Vera has an awful lot of "I" in it. I mean, many women have c-sections and don't feel the need to mention they are "tethered to wires". Joan always has to add excessive details for the drama.
I think they are going to be selfish and narcissistic parents just like E&J. Just wait until they get home and discover that parenting is more work and sacrifice than they think.
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And jury is still out on the type of parents they'll be, but I think it's incredibly unfair to discredit them before they even try.
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I'm so glad V is here and healthy and things went well for all of them. She's beautiful..
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You are welcome to your opinion, I am welcome to mine.cwm93 wrote:I think you are doing a disservice to her post (and to the way she's talking about Vera) by compressing it down to her saying that she's "tethered to wires" and making that seem like it's a big deal.She's discussing all the uncomfortable parts that come after-birth (and especially after c-section) and saying she would not rather be anywhere else, in any other circumstance, than with Vera.HelloSweetie wrote:I don't know..... I hate to be the one to ruin all the hopes that Joan is going to be a great mom but Joanna post about Vera has an awful lot of "I" in it. I mean, many women have c-sections and don't feel the need to mention they are "tethered to wires". Joan always has to add excessive details for the drama.
I think they are going to be selfish and narcissistic parents just like E&J. Just wait until they get home and discover that parenting is more work and sacrifice than they think.
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And jury is still out on the type of parents they'll be, but I think it's incredibly unfair to discredit them before they even try.
I have read so many of Joan's posts before, including her old blog. Her posts always have a certain tone and it's still there. I think Vera and the world will hear about every sacrifice Joan makes. If I'm wrong and they pull it together and mature them I'll give them props, but I haven't seen enough yet to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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I'm sure they're fine. They are probably very busy taking care of Vera, as this is all new to them, and they're posting pretty frequently.1000Words wrote:Makes me nervous when they don’t post
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I’m glad they aren’t posting. Because we know how self centered she is this is the first time I think she’s just enjoying her baby and not caring about social media. It’s pure bliss having a baby after a loss. It’s pure bliss any way but still.
Why do you have to think something is wrong, baby is perfectly healthy so we shouldn’t be paranoid unless they mention health issues.
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Why do you have to think something is wrong, baby is perfectly healthy so we shouldn’t be paranoid unless they mention health issues.
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Now she’s saying you can’t feel the amount of joy she’s feeling until you have gone through a loss..
I feel that after my infertility and losses that once I had my living babies I appreciate them so much and never take the fact that I have them for granted.. but I would never tell someone they don’t love their kids as much as I do or they aren’t as happy to have kids as I am.. what the hell?
I feel that after my infertility and losses that once I had my living babies I appreciate them so much and never take the fact that I have them for granted.. but I would never tell someone they don’t love their kids as much as I do or they aren’t as happy to have kids as I am.. what the hell?
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I mean, unless we are reading completely different posts, I don't think that's what she said? She said that it is a "totally different type of joy," not that you can't feel the amount of joy she's feeling. Idk if she's right, and idk if I agree with her, but different its not the same as not feeling it at all.Nikier wrote:Now she’s saying you can’t feel the amount of joy she’s feeling until you have gone through a loss..
I feel that after my infertility and losses that once I had my living babies I appreciate them so much and never take the fact that I have them for granted.. but I would never tell someone they don’t love their kids as much as I do or they aren’t as happy to have kids as I am.. what the hell?
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I would not interpret anything Joan says right now as self-absorbed. She is in post-baby bliss, of course she's going to post about how happy and content she is. I don't think she's purposely trying to shade other people. She definitely has in the past, but I'd cut her some slack right now after she just gave birth.
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I went back a reread it, sorry! “You’re able to feel a totally different type of joy when you’ve known heartache”.ughpleasee wrote:I mean, unless we are reading completely different posts, I don't think that's what she said? She said that it is a "totally different type of joy," not that you can't feel the amount of joy she's feeling. Idk if she's right, and idk if I agree with her, but different its not the same as not feeling it at all.Nikier wrote:Now she’s saying you can’t feel the amount of joy she’s feeling until you have gone through a loss..
I feel that after my infertility and losses that once I had my living babies I appreciate them so much and never take the fact that I have them for granted.. but I would never tell someone they don’t love their kids as much as I do or they aren’t as happy to have kids as I am.. what the hell?
I quickly read it and and interpreted it as instead of the usual “pain olympics” now it’s joy that normal people wouldn’t experience because they haven’t lost a baby.
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Gossip forum.... not a fan club.
People are entitled to their opinion. I don't think it needs to change just because she popped out a kid. Lets not forget all the times she's played pain Olympics in the past. If you'll say shitty things to another loss mom, you probably aren't going to suddenly have more empathy and insight just because your own rainbow has been born. As a member of a loss board for years now, I actually expect she might become less sympathetic now that she has a living child (see E&J's actions post IF). Just as no one understood her pain, no one will now understand her joy.
Everyone can have their opinion, and there's no need to argue about it. It's better critical comments be made here than on their IG. Yes we know they read here, but that doesn't mean we need to censor this board more than we would others.
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People are entitled to their opinion. I don't think it needs to change just because she popped out a kid. Lets not forget all the times she's played pain Olympics in the past. If you'll say shitty things to another loss mom, you probably aren't going to suddenly have more empathy and insight just because your own rainbow has been born. As a member of a loss board for years now, I actually expect she might become less sympathetic now that she has a living child (see E&J's actions post IF). Just as no one understood her pain, no one will now understand her joy.
Everyone can have their opinion, and there's no need to argue about it. It's better critical comments be made here than on their IG. Yes we know they read here, but that doesn't mean we need to censor this board more than we would others.
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I’m not a fan of the tone of Joan’s posts. With everything she’s said in the past, and she’s said a lot, it’s hard to take what’s she’s saying now as sincere and at face value.
I hope for Vera’s sake they’ve changed and will be awesome parents but it’s only been day 2. I haven’t forgotten her previous behaviour and seemingly unhinged mental state. Time will tell.
I hope for Vera’s sake they’ve changed and will be awesome parents but it’s only been day 2. I haven’t forgotten her previous behaviour and seemingly unhinged mental state. Time will tell.