John and Joan: 11 Hours of Pushing Lies | Part 3

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What gets me is the belittling of that mom's grief over birth plan going badly. I will admit I roll my eyes sometimes at women dramatically recalling their birth that didn't go according to plan but grief is relative. She doesn't own grief. She doesn't get to decide if you've experienced "real" grief or not.


...btw did I say "grief" enough times ;-P

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boredmamaneedsdrama wrote:Joan's last Instagram picture.Image
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131618 wrote:What gets me is the belittling of that mom's grief over birth plan going badly. I will admit I roll my eyes sometimes at women dramatically recalling their birth that didn't go according to plan but grief is relative. She doesn't own grief. She doesn't get to decide if you've experienced "real" grief or not.


...btw did I say "grief" enough times ;-P

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Yes! I might get blocked but I had to comment on her post. That is so unkind. Everyone feels things differently. It's not fair to say someone's pain matters unless because you had it "worse." It's not a competition.

I wish she could just be happy now that Vera is here... I was really happy for her and hoping this could help her heal.


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On her story she has Vera at the dentist... maybe i'm old school, but doesn't a baby at least need teeth to be in need of a dental appt? I have never heard of taking a newborn to the dentist...
ETA: Lip/tongue tie issues?? Is that done by a dentist?
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Damn you can almost see her V lips.
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She could’ve easily cropped it higher. We don’t need to see the tip of your vagina.


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I’m not even gonna lie, I reported the picture to Instagram. They said that it didn’t show any nudity.
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nutbagmcgee wrote:I’m not even gonna lie, I reported the picture to Instagram. They said that it didn’t show any nudity.
Same... even though on the page where you report it they say nudity or partial nudity of children is a no no...
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Something feels "off". I don't know, I'm getting a strange vibe from these posts. Almost manic and obsessive from Joan. She's desperately grasping for ways to still make everything about Maeve. I don't know how to articulate how I feel about her posts except that I'm deeply concerned about her sanity.
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Edenberry wrote:Something feels "off". I don't know, I'm getting a strange vibe from these posts. Almost manic and obsessive from Joan. She's desperately grasping for ways to still make everything about Maeve. I don't know how to articulate how I feel about her posts except that I'm deeply concerned about her sanity.
She followed the pediatric dentist photo with a picture of Maeve.... because we obviously can’t let Vera have all the attention. Image

Also, I’m not sure why she’s taking a newborn to the dentist?? Anyone know?


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Her identity is too tied up in the loss. She's still posting this picture. It's still her profile pic and wallpaper. Let Vera be VERA. She seems more like a replacement baby to Joan and I fear that's going to be her identity forever. A shadow of her sister. It's beyond sad. I can't with this, today.
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Edenberry wrote:Something feels "off". I don't know, I'm getting a strange vibe from these posts. Almost manic and obsessive from Joan. She's desperately grasping for ways to still make everything about Maeve. I don't know how to articulate how I feel about her posts except that I'm deeply concerned about her sanity.
She just posted a pic of her phone screen in her story of Maeve. I get where she is sad and misses her,but she has a living daughter at her finger tips she should focus on. I can see a few years down the road her and John splitting and him having custody of Vera. I'm concerned for her and the baby as well. Scary.

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Oh, & Vera’s blanket has foxes... I swear she can’t just let one moment pass that she isn’t pushing Maeve into the photo in some way.

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SassySassenach wrote:
Edenberry wrote:Something feels "off". I don't know, I'm getting a strange vibe from these posts. Almost manic and obsessive from Joan. She's desperately grasping for ways to still make everything about Maeve. I don't know how to articulate how I feel about her posts except that I'm deeply concerned about her sanity.
She followed the pediatric dentist photo with a picture of Maeve.... because we obviously can’t let Vera have all the attention. Image

Also, I’m not sure why she’s taking a newborn to the dentist?? Anyone know?


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It's so so sad. Poor Vera.
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Edenberry wrote:Her identity is too tied up in the loss. She's still posting this picture. It's still her profile pic and wallpaper. Let Vera be VERA. She seems more like a replacement baby to Joan and I fear that's going to be her identity forever. A shadow of her sister. It's beyond sad. I can't with this, today.
Replacement wasn't the word I was looking for. SUBSTITUTE baby
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Why can’t Vera be on her lock screen? Is she not good enough?

Maeve will not be mad if there is no memory of her on the daily. She’s perfect in heaven. Why can’t the focus be 100% on Bera?


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SassySassenach wrote:Oh, & Vera’s blanket has foxes... I swear she can’t just let one moment pass that she isn’t pushing Maeve into the photo in some way.

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Am I the only one wondering why is a new born in the dentist?

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They are probably checking for a tongue and upper lip tie. She talks to Ellie who has been so adamant that her doctor didn’t properly diagnose one with Calvin. Could be the doctor told Joan that Vera was fine, but she wanted to check with a dentist? My oldest son’s upper lip tie needed to be snipped by a dentist. The doctor wouldn’t touch it. He did the lower lip tie on my youngest though.


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SassySassenach wrote:Oh, & Vera’s blanket has foxes... I swear she can’t just let one moment pass that she isn’t pushing Maeve into the photo in some way.




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Am I the only one wondering why is a new born in the dentist?

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In the UK it's recommended to take them as soon as possible, and definitely have taken them when their first tooth appears
a couple of weeks old does seem too young though
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jiggy_girl wrote:
ssr0312 wrote:
SassySassenach wrote:Oh, & Vera’s blanket has foxes... I swear she can’t just let one moment pass that she isn’t pushing Maeve into the photo in some way.




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Am I the only one wondering why is a new born in the dentist?

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In the UK it's recommended to take them as soon as possible, and definitely have taken them when their first tooth appears
a couple of weeks old does seem too young though
Yes! I know that is recommended as soon as they get their first tooth :) that makes complete sense! I thought this early was odd lol glad I'm not the only one!

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