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Is there another test for iron besides hemoglobin? If her hemoglobin is at 39, wouldn’t that be immediate cause for a transfusion? My doctors were livid when the hospital didn’t give me a transfusion at 56 just because I wasn’t showing symptoms, I didn’t get one until they were at 50 even though anything below 60 apparently requires a transfusion.
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God, some of you get offended by the smallest, pettiest things.Ckc717 wrote:What was the point of them leaving their kids for the day if Ellie didn’t want Jared to go to her appointment with her? Why didn’t he stay home with the kids and she go by herself? Was he there just to drive her? She can’t drive herself places now?
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Her doctor is a chiropractor doling out supplements to unfufilled housewivesalym0326 wrote:Is there another test for iron besides hemoglobin? If her hemoglobin is at 39, wouldn’t that be immediate cause for a transfusion? My doctors were livid when the hospital didn’t give me a transfusion at 56 just because I wasn’t showing symptoms, I didn’t get one until they were at 50 even though anything below 60 apparently requires a transfusion.
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It sounds like your dealing with different numbers. In the US, normal hemoglobin for women is 12-15 grams/deciliter. Hematocrit,(which it sounds like you are talking about) red blood cells, and mean corpuscular hemoglobin also come into consideration. For iron levels, they check ferritin, serum iron, and what's called iron binding capacity. The hematocrit is the Percentage of red blood cells in the blood. 39% is just at the bottom of normal range, and wouldn't require a transfusion.alym0326 wrote:Is there another test for iron besides hemoglobin? If her hemoglobin is at 39, wouldn’t that be immediate cause for a transfusion? My doctors were livid when the hospital didn’t give me a transfusion at 56 just because I wasn’t showing symptoms, I didn’t get one until they were at 50 even though anything below 60 apparently requires a transfusion.
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It's not just one number that indicates a need for transfusion or an iron infusion over supplements, unless you're obviously bleeding out from trauma or surgery. The doctor looks at a bunch of numbers and how they relate to each other. Same with your thyroid. There are different tests that are done to see how the whole is- not just one number by itself.
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Oops! *You're* dealing with different numbers, not your. Stupid auto-correct!
And if I confused everyone with all the different tests that go into diagnosing an iron deficiency anemia, and diagnosing the different anemias, that was kinda my point. I am not an expert. But when I was anemic, I went to one. I went to a hematologist. Not a chiropractor.
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And if I confused everyone with all the different tests that go into diagnosing an iron deficiency anemia, and diagnosing the different anemias, that was kinda my point. I am not an expert. But when I was anemic, I went to one. I went to a hematologist. Not a chiropractor.
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I don't know anything about his "doctor" but I have been to so called "doctors" who tell me what I want to hear. I find it hard to believe her real doctor told her nothing was wrong and her levels are fine and now this guy says the extreme opposite. The fact that he's selling supplements in his office is a red flag to me. I would be very suspicious of this guy if I was them. If she is depressed, she should be taking anti-depressants not vitamins. My advice would to make an appointment with a real specialist.
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I’m glad she’s trying to find some answers about her health, I did actually enjoy this vlog. I want to say this in the least , ass kissing, flattering, minion-y way, but I feel like Ellie has been a lot more genuine in the vlogs recently. Sure she’s a bitchy childish, lazy mother still, but it seems like now she’s trying to get the root of her problems. This could also just be absolutely self serving, poor me dramatics. If it’s really her trying to fix her issues, then it really sounded to me in the video that she should go see also go therapist about her hormones being so low. She’s probably also dealing with actual depression, not just post partum. Not everyone gets sad when they’re depressed, sometimes it comes out as irritability, anger, mood swings, etc. She needs mental help and medication.
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This!! Anaemia can have so many reasons and it all depends on all those tests and some more to rule out bleeding (e.g. gastritis) and multiple other things like Vitamin B12 deficiency. Of course iron deficiency is the most common cause in young women, but I hope they ran all the tests. But of course we are talking about Ellie who will probably go to the chiropractor with appendicitis. She should really go to the correct doctor!lmmomSD wrote:It sounds like your dealing with different numbers. In the US, normal hemoglobin for women is 12-15 grams/deciliter. Hematocrit,(which it sounds like you are talking about) red blood cells, and mean corpuscular hemoglobin also come into consideration. For iron levels, they check ferritin, serum iron, and what's called iron binding capacity. The hematocrit is the Percentage of red blood cells in the blood. 39% is just at the bottom of normal range, and wouldn't require a transfusion.alym0326 wrote:Is there another test for iron besides hemoglobin? If her hemoglobin is at 39, wouldn’t that be immediate cause for a transfusion? My doctors were livid when the hospital didn’t give me a transfusion at 56 just because I wasn’t showing symptoms, I didn’t get one until they were at 50 even though anything below 60 apparently requires a transfusion.
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It's not just one number that indicates a need for transfusion or an iron infusion over supplements, unless you're obviously bleeding out from trauma or surgery. The doctor looks at a bunch of numbers and how they relate to each other. Same with your thyroid. There are different tests that are done to see how the whole is- not just one number by itself.
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She keeps calling him a hormone specialist and he's a chiropractor. It bothers me that Ellie is not saying that. Having the supplements there is a red flag to me also. Maybe I have become too cynical with E and J but I just have a hard time believing all the other doctors said nothing wrong and this doctor says the exact opposite. Something just don't seem right with this! I have hypothyroidism and I don't buy Ellie's story that the doctor said it was fine now and she could quit taking her meds. Mine has been okay but they kept me on there. It just meant the dosage wasn't changed.ba1006 wrote:I don't know anything about his "doctor" but I have been to so called "doctors" who tell me what I want to hear. I find it hard to believe her real doctor told her nothing was wrong and her levels are fine and now this guy says the extreme opposite. The fact that he's selling supplements in his office is a red flag to me. I would be very suspicious of this guy if I was them. If she is depressed, she should be taking anti-depressants not vitamins. My advice would to make an appointment with a real specialist.
When Ellie was going through her bag of supplements, she said that other stuff would be coming through the mail. She said he would be doing everything naturally except the thyroid medicine and iron shots. So I guess the doctor has it set up with an actual physician to do stuff like that that he is unable to do?
Do this family go to a family doc for checkups? I just haven't heard of them going and Bonnie and Ruby both have mentioned physicals on the kids. Wonder if that's another reason some of this stuff goes unchecked.
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I’m glad for her if she’s found answers and a doctor that will help her, but I’m very confused about why she feels like she was “begging for help” and couldn’t find a specialist that could help her until now. She’s known that she has an underactive thyroid for years at this point, and any endocrinologist would know to check tsh, t3, and t4 levels for a complete picture. Sure, if you go to a general practitioner or family doctor, they’re probably not going to know the ins and outs of treating a thyroid disorder. But if she got a diagnosis, why did she go off her medication and why has she not been seeing a decent endocrinologist? It wasn’t hard to find her current “doctor” after she name dropped a podcast he was on recently, but he’s not a medical doctor. He has a Doctorate of Chiropractic from Western States Chiropractic College. How does that make him a “hormone specialists”?
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Do people think she stumbled upon a doctor an hour away from home by accident? She was looking for someone who would tell her what she wanted to hear. This new Ellie won’t last because it’s a placebo effect at the moment. It takes time for supplements and medications to build up into your system when it’s that depleted. If she starts feeling better immediately, it’s all the placebo effect.
This “institute” charges a fee for a year. They aren’t exactly incentivized to not find anything wrong KWIM? Ellie has paid at least $1625 to this man judging by their fee schedule. He will also supposedly diagnose brain/cognitive disorders, but only if you PAY for him to have that labwork done and to develop a treatment plan. Basically, you tell him what you think is wrong, and he’ll confirm it and develop a plan you’re happy with.
I work in healthcare, and this program makes absolutely no sense.
http://www.utahwellnessinstitute.com/program-costs/
And the $750 per category is the doctor’s fee, and not covered by insurance. This doesn’t even include the bloodwork cost itself, which they assume insurance or flex spending will take care of.
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This “institute” charges a fee for a year. They aren’t exactly incentivized to not find anything wrong KWIM? Ellie has paid at least $1625 to this man judging by their fee schedule. He will also supposedly diagnose brain/cognitive disorders, but only if you PAY for him to have that labwork done and to develop a treatment plan. Basically, you tell him what you think is wrong, and he’ll confirm it and develop a plan you’re happy with.
I work in healthcare, and this program makes absolutely no sense.
http://www.utahwellnessinstitute.com/program-costs/
And the $750 per category is the doctor’s fee, and not covered by insurance. This doesn’t even include the bloodwork cost itself, which they assume insurance or flex spending will take care of.
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Im pretty sure if you're that anemic you get sent to the hospital for some kind of infusions or something. Basically everything she said boils down to "I need thyroid medication and vitamins like half of America." It's really not half that dramatic. Good for her though.
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And here they are preaching to everyone about how wonderful it is ugh... they are so naiveHelloSweetie wrote:Do people think she stumbled upon a doctor an hour away from home by accident? She was looking for someone who would tell her what she wanted to hear. This new Ellie won’t last because it’s a placebo effect at the moment. It takes time for supplements and medications to build up into your system when it’s that depleted. If she starts feeling better immediately, it’s all the placebo effect.
This “institute” charges a fee for a year. They aren’t exactly incentivized to not find anything wrong KWIM? Ellie has paid at least $1625 to this man judging by their fee schedule. He will also supposedly diagnose brain/cognitive disorders, but only if you PAY for him to have that labwork done and to develop a treatment plan. Basically, you tell him what you think is wrong, and he’ll confirm it and develop a plan you’re happy with.
I work in healthcare, and this program makes absolutely no sense.
http://www.utahwellnessinstitute.com/program-costs/
And the $750 per category is the doctor’s fee, and not covered by insurance. This doesn’t even include the bloodwork cost itself, which they assume insurance or flex spending will take care of.
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I’m really wondering if this is a sponsorship in disguise.131618 wrote:And here they are leaving to everyone about how wonderful it is ugh... they are so naive
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this year it won’t be an IVF giveaway, but a free hormone consultation program.
If they make money off referrals to this, that will be so wrong.
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There are two sides of this coin. One side is medication, vitamin supplements, etc. The other side - the side that is 100% ignored and yet I would argue the most important - is finding a good therapist and doing some real cognitive behavioral therapy. Study after study has shown that you really need “tools” of behavior to cope and deal with everyday stresses, not just a pill you take. How I wish I could tell this young woman who his dealing with real, yet quite typical, stress of life and motherhood. Her $$ would be well spent with a therapist.
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If iron and vitamin deficiency is the cause of depression then taking anti-depression won't help. She might have to change her diet and take some supplements. She looks like she's lacking good nutrition in one of their latest vlog.ba1006 wrote:I don't know anything about his "doctor" but I have been to so called "doctors" who tell me what I want to hear. I find it hard to believe her real doctor told her nothing was wrong and her levels are fine and now this guy says the extreme opposite. The fact that he's selling supplements in his office is a red flag to me. I would be very suspicious of this guy if I was them. If she is depressed, she should be taking anti-depressants not vitamins. My advice would to make an appointment with a real specialist.
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Oh don’t worry. This doctor says he offers mental health services as well!Manitowoc123 wrote:There are two sides of this coin. One side is medication, vitamin supplements, etc. The other side - the side that is 100% ignored and yet I would argue the most important - is finding a good therapist and doing some real cognitive behavioral therapy. Study after study has shown that you really need “tools” of behavior to cope and deal with everyday stresses, not just a pill you take. How I wish I could tell this young woman who his dealing with real, yet quite typical, stress of life and motherhood. Her $$ would be well spent with a therapist.
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I think it's a combination of things. Even if she has an iron deficiency anemia, there could be an underlying cause. She could be depressed _and_ anemic.
Personal, but hopefully it will show how complicated these things can be-- I was anemic, and iron deficient, but it was because of Crohn's disease. Once we got that diagnosis, and the inflammation in my gut down, I stopped needing iron infusions. I also got down to 98 pounds while we were running tests, because I wasn't digesting what I was eating properly. Feeling tired, irritable, and just "not good" are really vague symptoms. And they can be caused by depression, anemia, hormone imbalances, poor diet (which is one thing we know for sure Ellie has)-- lots of things. I just side eye the hell out of this chiropractor.
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Personal, but hopefully it will show how complicated these things can be-- I was anemic, and iron deficient, but it was because of Crohn's disease. Once we got that diagnosis, and the inflammation in my gut down, I stopped needing iron infusions. I also got down to 98 pounds while we were running tests, because I wasn't digesting what I was eating properly. Feeling tired, irritable, and just "not good" are really vague symptoms. And they can be caused by depression, anemia, hormone imbalances, poor diet (which is one thing we know for sure Ellie has)-- lots of things. I just side eye the hell out of this chiropractor.
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I have a iron deficiency do to a auto immune disease. Most of the time there is a underlying issue that causes that. Maybe her diet is super bad. But yes you don’t go to a chiropractor for anemia.
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Maybe...chloe6124 wrote:I have a iron deficiency do to a auto immune disease. Most of the time there is a underlying issue that causes that. Maybe her diet is super bad. But yes you don’t go to a chiropractor for anemia.
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Guess she needs more hello fresh and blue apron meals
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